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post May 7 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(game4life @ May 7 2012, 04:13 PM)
audiophile will definitely choose wolfson biggrin.gif
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coming to think of it, my SGT 10.1 also uses a Wolfson chip WM8994. no wonder it sounds better than s2.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(farscope @ May 6 2012, 11:51 PM)
not sure if anyone posted before as i recall nobody posted.

some comparison in detail into things that ppl often overlook when comparing HOX vs S3

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.p...ource=pulsenews

a few key points to take note will be the camera sensor, audio chip, video capability, the 128-bit GPU bandwidth, sensors
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QUOTE(UpCar @ May 7 2012, 04:19 PM)
too many posts and threads to read through.
can anyone good enough in here summarize the s3 for me ? its advantages and disadvantages or its outstanding features ?
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i quote my previous post for u to read up abit on detail. other things u can read the reviews online, but dun trust everything they bash about s3.. nod.gif
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post May 7 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(KuLi @ May 7 2012, 04:37 PM)
not really a definitive answer but is based on web reviews and pictures from the launch.
delights:
1) bigger HD quality screen
2) higher built-in memory 64gb
3) bigger battery
4) smarter software

disappointments
1) pentile matrix screen is inferior to rgb screen (s2)
2) fugly design this is subjective, i personally find it pretty for the front and side design.
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my add in
5) supports up to 64GB SDXC (not SDHC)
6) Wolfson audio chip (with possible future Voodoo sound update)
7) better GPS with GLONASS
8) dual-band 128-bit GPU performance
9) Gorrila Glass 2
10) better power management embedded (not sure yet with real life usage, arguable)
11) better processor with new tech
12) better radio chip + voice equalizer for more clarity during calls
13) better camera sensor (but need real life test shots examples to judge it)
14) better Full HD video recording at 17Mbps sampling
15) more sensors than other phones
16) More native media file format support including FLAC
17) Thin and light
18) Bluetooth 4.0

Disadvantage:
2) Plastic build body (arguable, but i personally hoped for a liquid metal casing)

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some testing has already been made. stop living in denial. while those require further verification i ady stated in my post.


Added on May 7, 2012, 4:52 pm
QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ May 7 2012, 04:51 PM)
you're annoying
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probably trying to earn post count by inviting debates.

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QUOTE(KuLi @ May 7 2012, 04:54 PM)
but there is a minimum standard of beauty which is based on today's culture.

to me, samseng engineer didn't focus their efforts to produce a beautiful design. instead they concentrated on their software.
not every company can produce great specs and breathtaking design togeter. rclxms.gif
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by addressing Samsung as samseng, i can click the report button anytime.

if u wished to have a healthy debate, refrain from low-mental attacks. otherwise, i will just treat u as a troll no matter how hard u claim that this is a forum, freedom of speech or whatever crap reason u gave.

QUOTE(ellimist @ May 7 2012, 04:54 PM)
True it needs to be tested, but certain things are pretty straight forward. Wolfson one for instance. Processor based on 32nm should be virtually certain of gains (at least in battery life).
GPU seems pretty certain to me as well. Can't reproduce GPU scores even if I crank GPU up to 400mhz. Overclocking doesn't seem to make a difference in these tests. (but I only tried to 1.4ghz, didn't go to 1.6ghz. Got the same results as 1.2ghz)
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i read it somewhere, even thou using the same Mali-400, the number of cores is bumped up to 4 cores instead of 2 cores in SGS2. probably that explains y.
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QUOTE(UpCar @ May 7 2012, 04:58 PM)
fuahhhhh so many stuff ah ?

confirm ah 64gb internal memory ? price liddat is like RM 3k ?
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options available are 16/32/64GB.

but judging from the style of SME, they will only bring in 16GB.
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QUOTE(KuLi @ May 7 2012, 05:01 PM)
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relax...relax...

dun get too upset and stay focused on the discussion. when ppl refer to apple, it can say 'fruit'. no issues right?
i'm just using samseng as a term of endearment.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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first, i'm not upset. i respect u as a human being, hence i replied to your post in a mannered way while other ppl just treat u as a troll and ignores u.

as far as i'm concern, u didn't bring up much discussion at all.

i hope you can differentiate Samsung and samseng, while samseng is actually referring to sth bad, fruit on the other hand is not sth bad. Unless i called "Apple" as "CrApple", then it is a different story.

Mind you, don't try to twist words to be funny.


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QUOTE(KuLi @ May 7 2012, 05:11 PM)
hmm, sorry.  notworthy.gif
didn't mean it to be somethg bad.

but i'm quite surprise that this is coming from u. when u state 'gangster paradise' in ur avatar.
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so your avatar also shows a big green guy with big hands (the hulk), does it means you are green and have big hands too?

Grow up pls.
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Maybe some of them trying to justify their hox purchase in order to feel better by hating and bashing s3. whistling.gif

U know? sour grape mentality.
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Finished read about the Chinese forum. Basically the same thing and idea I had in mind. But I salute that guy for writing wall of text with math equation to support it.
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QUOTE(arslow @ May 7 2012, 11:03 PM)
if they sue because of speaker placement, its worse than absurd ready. then why dont they sue every phone manufacturer for having a camera on the back of the phone? blink.gif
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y not? apple sues anything they can think of included home button placement, rectangular shape with rounded edges and big screen, swipe to unlock, application menu bar etc etc.

i wont be surprise if they decided to sue on speaker placement, because that's what happened to SGT 10.1N where it has to alter the exterior design to suit the judge's and apple's needs.
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QUOTE(KuLi @ May 7 2012, 11:08 PM)
we've not doubted the durability of the s2 casing. but it FEELS cheap plastic.
not a premium feel for a premium price.

the only reason why 3rd party developers love samsung is bcos
a) the original software (tw) sucks, needs tons of improvement, which i feel samseng does it deliberately.
b) hardware (chips/ram/graphics proc)  is good.
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as long as it's durable, i dont mind the feel. cz if its not durable, it will feel like rubbish after some time of usage or wear and tear.

dev love samsung also bcz of its popularity of the device as well, tw is not that suck imo, it still has its functionality. half half opinion. and mind you again with the samseng word.
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QUOTE(Sone Shin @ May 8 2012, 08:41 AM)
C-pen stylus?  hmm.gif  Isit attached with the Phone?
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to be sold separately but aint sure how useful is it when compare to S Pen. I believe no match. S Pen will be the identify for the Note series.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 8 2012, 02:00 PM)
thanks for sharing
but no matter you guys how explain to me, i also can't digest it, totally noob in camera thingy
I just know that the sensor / aperture size number as low as better
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sensor and aperture is different. however, for sensor and aperture, the bigger the better.

the aperture size is denoted by the f-number. the smaller the number, the bigger the size.

sensor is similar to a film, but in digital form.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ May 8 2012, 02:12 PM)
SGS3 aperture size = f/2.65

HOX aperture size = f/2.00

N8 aperture size = f/1.80

Smaller f-stop = larger camera sensor = faster lens = lower ISO possible = lesser noise = better image quality
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yr "equation" is not entirely true

smaller f-stop = larger aperture size = faster lens = faster shutter speed achievable for same exposure

while

larger camera sensor = more light = lesser noise = shallower DOF

while image quality depends on lens the most, followed by sensor + image processor (including noise filtering for high ISO)

the aperture has nth to do with the sensor.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 8 2012, 02:18 PM)
so the aperture size the smaller the better right ??
LOL i though the aperture / sensor size the smaller the better the camera ???
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no.. the bigger the better.. dont get it wrong..

the smaller u mean is the f number.

i.e. f1.8, f2.0 etc etc..

the smaller the f, the bigger the aperture size bcz it's inverse of it. just don't get confuse with f-number with aperture size.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ May 8 2012, 02:24 PM)
o.O, so just know the the f/x (X = number) to smaller the better @@
finally understand about it
but can I know what the mean for the f ???
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if u learn optics in physics or u learn about photograph. the f number means the focal ratio.

it's actually the focal length over the diameter of the entrance pupil. go google up if u wanna know more. hope this clears up your doubts about the aperture and f-number relation.

it's getting out of topic with this aperture talk here ady.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ May 8 2012, 02:33 PM)
Usually smaller aperture size is better because can capture more "bokeh" for your photos.

Smaller aperture can result in using lower ISO because more volume of light is capable of entering the lens for low light capture especially indoor shots or birthday shots in a dark room.

This is why small aperture lens is so expensive.

Go to Canon shop and compare the quality of picture taken from a 50mm f/1.2 lens against a 50mm f/1.8 lens.
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your statement also half correct only. the ones highlighted in red shows that you are confused between aperture size and f-number

yes, bigger aperture size (smaller f-number) gives u narrower DOF (i.e. bokeh) but it doesn't matter if your sensor size is small. Everything will be focused.

DOF is contributed by a few factors, not only the aperture. the focal length, the sensor size, and the subject distance plays equally important role. with the small sensor and short focal length of a smartphone camera, it's unlikely to have a bokeh-ed picture even with a big aperture. The main reason for a small f-number will be only for the low light capability, which is mentioned in your second statement.

the last statement comparing the 50mm F1.2L and a 50mm F1.8 picture quality based on the aperture size is wrong. this shows u have little knowledge about photography. the picture quality has a big difference is because of the glass and the build of both lenses. not because of the aperture size. in fact, the sharpest aperture is always at a higher f-number, usually at f8.0.

i suggest that, if u r not well verse about some topic, then better don't confuse ppl by posting it.

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QUOTE(garytey @ May 8 2012, 02:38 PM)
there is a BSI(Back Illuminated Sensor), what is it used for?
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it's a technology to increase the capturing of light, hence improving low light shootings.
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QUOTE(garytey @ May 8 2012, 02:52 PM)
so does it helps when the S3 bigger F-number aperture not collecting more light during low light capture?
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theoretically yes.

actually any number below f2.8 is adequate for low light shooting, but of course, the smaller the better for the f-number.

in respond to your question. It will assist the s3 to perform better in low light when compared to non-BSI sensor.

but head to head comparing with other BSI smart phone cameras like the iphone 4S, Xperia S and the HOX, then we will need actually sample pictures to see how well it performs.

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