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post Oct 16 2018, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Oct 16 2018, 10:07 AM)
walao.

so scary ka.

me current using beko normal vented dryer.

expel hot air.

electricity consumption very high.

13A SSO always get burn because the circuit share with other appliances.

drying wise full load usually 80mins circle will do the job.
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Would the savings be worth the cost of the new machine?

Don't run the other appliance when using the dryer. 13A should suffice for vented dryer.

Though if you look at it from pollution point of view, heat pump would be better cause it recirculate the heated air instead of creating/releasing it into the atmosphere.

There are a few more heat pump models out there from different brand. Do more research.

Since I'm speaking from own experience. I don't wished to see anyone else having the same predicament as me. Aside from that, Electrolux's after sales support isn't great too. Maybe try brand with good after sales service with more leniency on warranty claims.

Good luck!
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Currently on a hunt for washer+dryer mechine. Any recommendations? Budget 3k-3.5k

Currently using 10kg front loader from Electrolux. Have been repaired a few times. Unit age 28 with 5kg dryer. Planning to buy a new one for my mom

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My electrolux 10kg/7kg dryer, eww14023 , dryer stopped working, what a waste, less than 1 year already dryer not working.
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QUOTE(ate @ Nov 7 2018, 05:40 PM)
My electrolux 10kg/7kg dryer, eww14023 , dryer stopped working, what a waste, less than 1 year already dryer not working.
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Less than a year then claim warranty. If spoiled right after warranty only grants you rights to rant. 😛
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Nov 7 2018, 06:45 PM)
Less than a year then claim warranty. If spoiled right after warranty only grants you rights to rant. 😛
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Was going through the receipt and i forgot to mail the warranty form.

Anyways can you recommend a me a reliable/durable wash/dry combo ?
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I saw there is not much people asking about standalone dryer here. I wonder how those people who stay in poor ventilated small condo/apartment dry their clothes. Not all condo/apartment has balcony, and not all drying yard has good air flow and sunlight.

Given that 3-4 people stay in the condo, each person do laundry for clothes once per week, each cycle takes 1/2 or 1 day to dry, not to mention you still have bed linen and other fabric to wash, aren't the yard always full with clothes all the time? When weather no good or either 1 forgot to do laundry on the day, then i think the house will fully hanging with clothes and the smell....hnggghhh biggrin.gif

I guess demand of household dryer is low in Malaysia because of:
1. landed house no need this.
2. many laundromat around?
3. people prefer natural dry? or prefer use fan to dry faster?
4. using dryer is not our culture?
5. never try using dryer before?
6. want to try but no knowledge on choosing dryer?

Me myself is no.6 previously. my first dryer is vented type and second dryer is condenser type. i will share a bit in simple way so that people will get some ideas, because i think for those first timer will have a hard time to decide which to buy and at what cost. ok, here we go:

Generally there are 3 types dryer: (1) Vented, (2) Condenser, (3) Heat Pump.

[Vented] is the cheapest and Heat Pump is the most expensive.

[Vented] you need to place the dryer at a location that you can connect the vented duct hose to outside to discharge the warm damp air. You need to left some space behind the dryer to bend the duct hose, so you can't place the dryer very near to the wall, unless the dryer has option for you to connect the duct hose behind or in front. But trust me, you won't want to connect duct hose from front, it's fugly.

Can I connect the duct hose and leave the hose in the room and not discharge to outside? Can, if you can endure the humidity and heat in the room, haha.

What advantage [Vented] over [Condenser] type of dryer? From my experience: it's cheap, not much maintenance needed, intuitive operation, and the detergent smell of the clothes easier go away. When the vented dryer in operating, the machine doesn't as hot as the condenser dryer.

What are disadvantages of [Vented] dryer? Limited flexibility in placing the dryer. You need to think how to connect the duct hose to outside. The duct hose diameter size around 4 inch in diameter. Will the wind back flow to the nearest windows? Because the warm damp air contains many lints, yes, still many lints even your dryer has the lint filter.

Another disadvantage is [Vented] basic dryer might not have reverse spin feature. Your bed sheet might spin in clockwise only and it becomes a ball, dry outside, wet inside. You need to manually take it out and turn the wet side face out.

Noise wise, condenser dryer sounds quieter a bit than vented dryer, not significant.

My first vented dryer is 6kg capacity and i feel small. Then my 8kg condenser dryer i feel just right size to use. I think 7kg is the bare minimum capacity to start with, like washing machine capacity, most of it starts with 7kg. Of course bigger capacity is always welcome.

[Condenser] dryer basically works exactly the same like [Vented] dryer, but instead of using duct hose to discharge warm damp air, it turns the warm damp air into water, when the drying cycle ends, the water at bottom will be pumped up to front top left drawer type resevoir. You can take it out and pour away the water. You have the option to connect water hose behind the dryer and directly discharge the water out without going back to the reservoir.

You need to take out the condensor from the front bottom left compartment once in a while to clean the lints stucked in the condenser, that's what i mean "maintenance" like above said.

[Heat Pump] dryer looks like and function like [Condenser] dryer, but in another working method. Imagine the [Vented] and [Condenser] dryer is a hair dryer blowing hot air to your clothes in a box; while [Heat Pump] dryer is like you putting your clothes inside a refrigerator, in a reverse way, inside is hot.
[Heat Pump] dryer save electricity consumption, whether it save your money or not it depends how long your [Heat Pump] dryer last you. If less than 5 years it spoilt, it definitely save your tnb bill but it didn't save your wallet.


Any recommended model for first timer? If you never use any dryer before, I would recommend cheap China brand Midea dryer. The built quality looks better for me compare to entry level Electrolux, Elba, etc branded.

I have 6kg [Vented] Midea MD-6288 and 8kg [Condenser] Midea MD-C8800. I do not recommend the 6kg because capacity is a bit small for daily usage.
For those who interested might try the 7kg [Vented] Midea MD-7388 and 8kg [Condenser] Midea MD-C8800. I bought the MD-C8800 from a neighbourhood electrical shop RM1280 including delivery. That's a friendly price dryer to start with. While the vented MD-7388 should be around RM850-RM900.

From operation wise, this Midea brand dryer functions like what it should be like other brands, just the user manual is shitty, don't rely on that.

Hope my info could help. smile.gif
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Nov 10 2018, 10:40 PM)
I saw there is not much people asking about standalone dryer here. I wonder how those people who stay in poor ventilated small condo/apartment dry their clothes. Not all condo/apartment has balcony, and not all drying yard has good air flow and sunlight.

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Good stuff! Thanks for sharing. rclxms.gif

And there are many still thinks airing the clothes to dry is good for the fabric. Until when it's gonna rain and the clothes all wet. Have to rewash. Like my friend, won't want to get a dryer. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Nov 10 2018, 10:59 PM)
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing.  rclxms.gif

And there are many still thinks airing the clothes to dry is good for the fabric. Until when it's gonna rain and the clothes all wet. Have to rewash. Like my friend, won't want to get a dryer.  whistling.gif
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one could use the dryer in other way…

like he/she can put in the dryer dry half then take it out proceed airing dry.

or airing dry first then if need to wear the clothes or clear the drying space, just take down the half dry clothes and dry with dryer. laugh.gif

not necessarily have to fully dry the clothes in the dryer. haha
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Nov 10 2018, 10:40 PM)
I saw there is not much people asking about standalone dryer here. I wonder how those people who stay in poor ventilated small condo/apartment dry their clothes. Not all condo/apartment has balcony, and not all drying yard has good air flow and sunlight.

Given that 3-4 people stay in the condo, each person do laundry for clothes once per week, each cycle takes 1/2 or 1 day to dry, not to mention you still have bed linen and other fabric to wash, aren't the yard always full with clothes all the time? When weather no good or either 1 forgot to do laundry on the day, then i think the house will fully hanging with clothes and the smell....hnggghhh  biggrin.gif

I guess demand of household dryer is low in Malaysia because of:
1. landed house no need this.
2. many laundromat around?
3. people prefer natural dry? or prefer use fan to dry faster?
4. using dryer is not our culture?
5. never try using dryer before?
6. want to try but no knowledge on choosing dryer?

Me myself is no.6 previously. my first dryer is vented type and second dryer is condenser type. i will share a bit in simple way so that people will get some ideas, because i think for those first timer will have a hard time to decide which to buy and at what cost. ok, here we go:

Generally there are 3 types dryer: (1) Vented, (2) Condenser, (3) Heat Pump.

[Vented] is the cheapest and Heat Pump is the most expensive.

[Vented] you need to place the dryer at a location that you can connect the vented duct hose to outside to discharge the warm damp air. You need to left some space behind the dryer to bend the duct hose, so you can't place the dryer very near to the wall, unless the dryer has option for you to connect the duct hose behind or in front. But trust me, you won't want to connect duct hose from front, it's fugly.

Can I connect the duct hose and leave the hose in the room and not discharge to outside? Can, if you can endure the humidity and heat in the room, haha.

What advantage [Vented] over [Condenser] type of dryer? From my experience: it's cheap, not much maintenance needed, intuitive operation, and the detergent smell of the clothes easier go away. When the vented dryer in operating, the machine doesn't as hot as the condenser dryer.

What are disadvantages of [Vented] dryer? Limited flexibility in placing the dryer. You need to think how to connect the duct hose to outside. The duct hose diameter size around 4 inch in diameter. Will the wind back flow to the nearest windows? Because the warm damp air contains many lints, yes, still many lints even your dryer has the lint filter.

Another disadvantage is [Vented] basic dryer might not have reverse spin feature. Your bed sheet might spin in clockwise only and it becomes a ball, dry outside, wet inside. You need to manually take it out and turn the wet side face out.

Noise wise, condenser dryer sounds quieter a bit than vented dryer, not significant.

My first vented dryer is 6kg capacity and i feel small. Then my 8kg condenser dryer i feel just right size to use. I think 7kg is the bare minimum capacity to start with, like washing machine capacity, most of it starts with 7kg. Of course bigger capacity is always welcome.

[Condenser] dryer basically works exactly the same like [Vented] dryer, but instead of using duct hose to discharge warm damp air, it turns the warm damp air into water, when the drying cycle ends, the water at bottom will be pumped up to front top left drawer type resevoir. You can take it out and pour away the water. You have the option to connect water hose behind the dryer and directly discharge the water out without going back to the reservoir.

You need to take out the condensor from the front bottom left compartment once in a while to clean the lints stucked in the condenser, that's what i mean "maintenance" like above said.

[Heat Pump] dryer looks like and function like [Condenser] dryer, but in another working method. Imagine the [Vented] and [Condenser] dryer is a hair dryer blowing hot air to your clothes in a box; while [Heat Pump] dryer is like you putting your clothes inside a refrigerator, in a reverse way, inside is hot.
[Heat Pump] dryer save electricity consumption, whether it save your money or not it depends how long your [Heat Pump] dryer last you. If less than 5 years it spoilt, it definitely save your tnb bill but it didn't save your wallet.
Any recommended model for first timer? If you never use any dryer before, I would recommend cheap China brand Midea dryer. The built quality looks better for me compare to entry level Electrolux, Elba, etc branded.

I have 6kg [Vented] Midea MD-6288 and 8kg [Condenser] Midea MD-C8800. I do not recommend the 6kg because capacity is a bit small for daily usage.
For those who interested might try the 7kg [Vented] Midea MD-7388 and 8kg [Condenser] Midea MD-C8800. I bought the MD-C8800 from a neighbourhood electrical shop RM1280 including delivery. That's a friendly price dryer to start with. While the vented MD-7388 should be around RM850-RM900.

From operation wise, this Midea brand dryer functions like what it should be like other brands, just the user manual is shitty, don't rely on that.

Hope my info could help.  smile.gif
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Thanks for the info smile.gif
yup, but nowadays especially in Klang Valley area, more condo and high rise unit being built so sooner or later the needs for Dryer will come eventually.

i also thinks i need a dryer but since no budget, need to save money first before buying it

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QUOTE(cainconan @ Nov 12 2018, 09:10 AM)
Thanks for the info smile.gif
yup, but nowadays especially in Klang Valley area, more condo and high rise unit being built so sooner or later the needs for Dryer will come eventually.

i also thinks i need a dryer but since no budget, need to save money first before buying it
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when drying yard is occupied by ladies' delicates, you can't dry other clothes anymore...haha

moreover, if the drying yard is used as wet kitchen, you need to take down the clothes before start to cook biggrin.gif

just buy it...as long the drying yard has the space to put washing machine and dryer together, stack it or not that's another story.

some people willing to buy expensive smartphone and become outdated after 2 years but not willing buy a dryer for daily life convenience sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Nov 12 2018, 06:03 PM)
when drying yard is occupied by ladies' delicates, you can't dry other clothes anymore...haha

moreover, if the drying yard is used as wet kitchen, you need to take down the clothes before start to cook  biggrin.gif

just buy it...as long the drying yard has the space to put washing machine and dryer together, stack it or not that's another story.

some people willing to buy expensive smartphone and become outdated after 2 years but not willing buy a dryer for daily life convenience  sweat.gif
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hahah yup that's true..
for now i think my yard will only be used as a yard and not wet kitchen..

and yup it has the space for both washer and dryer..

since you reccomend the entry model, i might as well look into it and start saving some money before buying it smile.gif


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using EWW 14113 for 1 month, washing 1-2 times per week. Overall a decent washer dryer, will monitor how the electric bill like sweat.gif
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A technician came and fix my machine, electrolux has 2 years warranty on all parts, after getting it fixed, 2nd run on my combo when drying the machine went kong yet again and it developed a new sort of noise. Will highlight the issue with electrolux again and see how it goes.
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QUOTE(ate @ Nov 16 2018, 04:52 PM)
A technician came and fix my machine, electrolux has 2 years warranty on all parts, after getting it fixed, 2nd run on my combo when drying the machine went kong yet again and it developed a new sort of noise. Will highlight the issue with electrolux again and see how it goes.
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Can record the noise alone? Video optional.
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Can record the noise alone? Video optional.
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Will upload it.


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Will upload it.
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Here is the noise.Attached File  Voice_456__online_audio_converter.com_.mp3 ( 242.79k ) Number of downloads: 55

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Here is the noise.Attached File  Voice_456__online_audio_converter.com_.mp3 ( 242.79k ) Number of downloads: 55

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Which part is the new noise? There is a constant humming that sounded like a car idling with AC running. Then there's static but can barely make out a little sizzling sound.
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Which part is the new noise? There is a constant humming that sounded like a car idling with AC running. Then there's static but can barely make out a little sizzling sound.
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Its the constant humming noise, never appeared until the dryer went bad.

Most of the time the machine is very silent unless when its spinning at 1400rpm producing a jet whirring noise.
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Nov 10 2018, 10:40 PM)
I saw there is not much people asking about standalone dryer here. I wonder how those people who stay in poor ventilated small condo/apartment dry their clothes. Not all condo/apartment has balcony, and not all drying yard has good air flow and sunlight.

Given that 3-4 people stay in the condo, each person do laundry for clothes once per week, each cycle takes 1/2 or 1 day to dry, not to mention you still have bed linen and other fabric to wash, aren't the yard always full with clothes all the time? When weather no good or either 1 forgot to do laundry on the day, then i think the house will fully hanging with clothes and the smell....hnggghhh  biggrin.gif

I guess demand of household dryer is low in Malaysia because of:
1. landed house no need this.
2. many laundromat around?
3. people prefer natural dry? or prefer use fan to dry faster?
4. using dryer is not our culture?
5. never try using dryer before?
6. want to try but no knowledge on choosing dryer?

Me myself is no.6 previously. my first dryer is vented type and second dryer is condenser type. i will share a bit in simple way so that people will get some ideas, because i think for those first timer will have a hard time to decide which to buy and at what cost. ok, here we go:

Generally there are 3 types dryer: (1) Vented, (2) Condenser, (3) Heat Pump.

[Vented] is the cheapest and Heat Pump is the most expensive.

[Vented] you need to place the dryer at a location that you can connect the vented duct hose to outside to discharge the warm damp air. You need to left some space behind the dryer to bend the duct hose, so you can't place the dryer very near to the wall, unless the dryer has option for you to connect the duct hose behind or in front. But trust me, you won't want to connect duct hose from front, it's fugly.

Can I connect the duct hose and leave the hose in the room and not discharge to outside? Can, if you can endure the humidity and heat in the room, haha.

What advantage [Vented] over [Condenser] type of dryer? From my experience: it's cheap, not much maintenance needed, intuitive operation, and the detergent smell of the clothes easier go away. When the vented dryer in operating, the machine doesn't as hot as the condenser dryer.

What are disadvantages of [Vented] dryer? Limited flexibility in placing the dryer. You need to think how to connect the duct hose to outside. The duct hose diameter size around 4 inch in diameter. Will the wind back flow to the nearest windows? Because the warm damp air contains many lints, yes, still many lints even your dryer has the lint filter.

Another disadvantage is [Vented] basic dryer might not have reverse spin feature. Your bed sheet might spin in clockwise only and it becomes a ball, dry outside, wet inside. You need to manually take it out and turn the wet side face out.

Noise wise, condenser dryer sounds quieter a bit than vented dryer, not significant.

My first vented dryer is 6kg capacity and i feel small. Then my 8kg condenser dryer i feel just right size to use. I think 7kg is the bare minimum capacity to start with, like washing machine capacity, most of it starts with 7kg. Of course bigger capacity is always welcome.

[Condenser] dryer basically works exactly the same like [Vented] dryer, but instead of using duct hose to discharge warm damp air, it turns the warm damp air into water, when the drying cycle ends, the water at bottom will be pumped up to front top left drawer type resevoir. You can take it out and pour away the water. You have the option to connect water hose behind the dryer and directly discharge the water out without going back to the reservoir.

You need to take out the condensor from the front bottom left compartment once in a while to clean the lints stucked in the condenser, that's what i mean "maintenance" like above said.

[Heat Pump] dryer looks like and function like [Condenser] dryer, but in another working method. Imagine the [Vented] and [Condenser] dryer is a hair dryer blowing hot air to your clothes in a box; while [Heat Pump] dryer is like you putting your clothes inside a refrigerator, in a reverse way, inside is hot.
[Heat Pump] dryer save electricity consumption, whether it save your money or not it depends how long your [Heat Pump] dryer last you. If less than 5 years it spoilt, it definitely save your tnb bill but it didn't save your wallet.
Any recommended model for first timer? If you never use any dryer before, I would recommend cheap China brand Midea dryer. The built quality looks better for me compare to entry level Electrolux, Elba, etc branded.

I have 6kg [Vented] Midea MD-6288 and 8kg [Condenser] Midea MD-C8800. I do not recommend the 6kg because capacity is a bit small for daily usage.
For those who interested might try the 7kg [Vented] Midea MD-7388 and 8kg [Condenser] Midea MD-C8800. I bought the MD-C8800 from a neighbourhood electrical shop RM1280 including delivery. That's a friendly price dryer to start with. While the vented MD-7388 should be around RM850-RM900.

From operation wise, this Midea brand dryer functions like what it should be like other brands, just the user manual is shitty, don't rely on that.

Hope my info could help.  smile.gif
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is MIDEA realiable brand? any issues? surveying this midea, haier and also electrolux. first time buyer so really no idea which better. haha. anyway my budget just vented lor. if electrolux only looking at their 7kg model. rm1200 at lajada. midea around rm800 liddat. pls advise sifu
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 19 2018, 03:29 PM)
is MIDEA realiable brand? any issues? surveying this midea, haier and also electrolux. first time buyer so really no idea which better. haha. anyway my budget just vented lor. if electrolux only looking at their 7kg model. rm1200 at lajada. midea around rm800 liddat. pls advise sifu
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i bought my midea 8kg md-c8800 condenser at rm1280

if u have 1.2k budget, just get this.

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