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storm88
post Jul 30 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jul 30 2012, 01:20 PM)
if i cant manage to find the materials, i might just buy from you or the ready made old stock mx keychains
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u mean the rabbit year keychain? i only left few. not many

i'm talking about creating a brand new one with different design smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(rao2100 @ Jul 30 2012, 01:30 PM)
I am interested, as long as it is not too expensive.
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it has to depend how detail i able to make first biggrin.gif

but shouldn't be too pricy la.
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post Jul 31 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Jul 31 2012, 10:33 AM)
er... two method to do this:
1. Mold injection
2. cnc milled.

First one will cost me quite high. a 2 x 1" thick alu sheet cost me rm1xx already...
so ii only can try the second option


Added on July 31, 2012, 10:29 am
QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jul 31 2012, 11:17 AM)
lube is not meant for the switch, it's for the stabilizers
user posted image
the stabilizer is the left and right part of the clear switch, the metal rod part there
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ey? Ripster no copy right protected the pic ka? tongue.gif
btw, brown PCB, which brand of this keyboard a?


Added on July 31, 2012, 10:29 am
QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jul 31 2012, 11:17 AM)
lube is not meant for the switch, it's for the stabilizers
user posted image
the stabilizer is the left and right part of the clear switch, the metal rod part there
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ey? Ripster no copy right protected the pic ka? tongue.gif
btw, brown PCB, which brand of this keyboard a?

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post Jul 31 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Jul 31 2012, 12:35 PM)
Apa tu CNC Milled? your 3D printer can do or not?
how much is the price? to make each key?

and the mold injection....
RM1xx is how much?
if each key can sell RM10....
you need only to sell 1X to earn back the cost of the Alu sheet right?
is there other costs?
one same mold you can make many different color also right?
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er...

My 3D printer can print, but not sure if it able to do such high detail level or not.

it's time to do some "lesson" tongue.gif
Option 1- Mold Injected
The price for metal sheets is not fix one. Its estimate around RM100 +/-

Most keycap (99.9%) in the market is hot plastic mold injected. Hot plastic is injected into a mold form by two or more pieces of Alu/Steel base, which already been engraved. (For this case i see it needs only two, top and bottom)

So the hot plastic inside the mold will be cooled and the mold will be crank up, then there you'll get your product. (the keycap)

For mold injection, of course the higher number it able to produce from the mold, the cost will be even up easier. The most expensive part is the mold itself. The more precision a mold is being crafted, the higher the price is. For the plastic? Bla, it's dirt cheap. I can get a 5kg PBT resin with hundred ringgit plus only. The number? you can count smile.gif

Yes, basicly you can put any color of material into a same mold, also maybe other material like PBT or POM. But not really advisable as the shrinkage of ABS, PBT & POM totally diff

option 2- CNC milled
For example like the one you given, i can take a red color keycap and add a layer of hot red abs plastic on top of it, to thicken the base which will be milled off later. Then wait for it to cool off.

When it's cool up, cnc machine will engrave the shape and then you'll get your keycap.

Basicly, Cnc milled normally is meant to do small quantity job only.
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post Jul 31 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Jul 31 2012, 02:18 PM)
for molding, other than the alu or steel mold,
do you have the equipments to heat up and melt the plastics/ inject the plastic to the mold?

and CNC milling, I m not sure I understand what you mean by thickening a keycap,
you are adding a layer of ABS to a keycap and drill off part of the added part?
but you are not drilling a keycap out of a solid cube of plastic?
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For the mold injecting, i always pass to other ppl to do it one

and for CNC, yes, i'm addon a layer and engrave it.

No, i'm not mill from a solid cube.
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post Jul 31 2012, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Jul 31 2012, 02:50 PM)
CNC onto a ABS added onto a keycaps?
so we need a completed functional keycap first?
and the ABS will cover the whole key or just the top of it?
if the original key color are different from the added part,
that would seem awkward right?

and is it possible to add PBT on top of a PBT keycap instead?
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ERm..

Mind i ask why you want to apply a layer on top of PBT keycap?

i have quite alot red color keycaps left, applying a layer on top of them will save me time. smile.gif


But. I cannot simply "Stick" on the caps but i must reheat the base and let the molecule melt and only by that the new ABS layer able to applied on top of it. before reheating the top, i had to sand off the printed material too!

I not sure of the ABS red match the keycap i have or not. Let's pray they match perfectly laugh.gif

Applying PBT plastic on PBT is possible, provided you have the skill to control the shrinkage ratio.
But PBT has much higher melting temperature point and crystallization behavior, imo it'll be much difficult compare to applying a layer on top of ABS caps.


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post Aug 1 2012, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Aug 1 2012, 05:27 PM)
now struggling, thinking to get those POM and PBTs and modifier....
but found those Rainbow PBT half transparent@@ and found this one :

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13810003122

RED backlit KEYCOOL!!!!
OMG..

might as well get this one and the semi-transparent rainbow PBT with it.....
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holy shit!!!
they look so similar to Ducky products biggrin.gif
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post Aug 3 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 2 2012, 11:51 PM)
user posted image
Pics from KBDMania

Looks a bit underwhelming  sad.gif
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why does it like that one? shocking.gif
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post Aug 3 2012, 05:09 PM

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or Rm219 for a Cherry MK3800
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post Aug 3 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Aug 3 2012, 06:17 PM)
IIRC, someone here posted a picture that ALL IT/Viewnet priced it at RM249. sweat.gif
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that is not ma price ma tongue.gif
btw i only has mx blue and brown
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post Aug 8 2012, 01:22 PM

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Hi folks,

Just to let you guys know that, i no longer the distributor of DUCKY CHANNEL.
For newer model enquirers, please refer to the new authorized distributor ya.

For Warranty claim, you still can go back to where you bought the kb, and we will honor that without delay smile.gif

Second thing,
Pertaining to the wrist rest, we are changing to Key Chain. Expect to start distribute out to dealers before Hari Raya.
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post Aug 8 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Aug 8 2012, 02:49 PM)
Get the Filco straight =D
Top up abit, and you have assurance of having one of the pioneers and best in quality in mech keyboards =D
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i think he needs a backlit kb?
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post Aug 8 2012, 02:43 PM

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er... Not sure if this good news anot.

Keycool, *Might* come into MY
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post Aug 8 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 8 2012, 04:47 PM)
That depends on the price difference between local and TB price.
If it's more expensive than TB + shipping price, then no point.

Thus, the keycool pricing will be somewhere around there, if the Ducky pricing is any indication.
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erm, i'm directly dealing from Keycool Tzuhai.

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post Aug 10 2012, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Aug 10 2012, 02:05 AM)
erm... put it under your windows key, to lock it, prevent you from pressing it while playing in a game outside of window.
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these are the parts for the stabilizers la smile.gif
btw, as bro human10 said ady, no harm la, everyone learns from mistake wink.gif

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