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 Mechanical Keyboard Club V6, For Gamers and Typist Enthusiasts

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kaiserreich
post Jun 14 2012, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Jun 14 2012, 01:32 PM)
How much does it cost for a injection mold?
If our club invest a mold for our own design,
and start selling keycaps sets, is that profitable in the long run?
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You should direct your inquiries to the plastic factories.
Looking at least few hundred K since they won't do small volume anyway.
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post Jun 14 2012, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jun 14 2012, 03:31 AM)
Hello there, sifus.

Whats the decent mech keyboard with Mac layout? smile.gif
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Bump my question from previous page. smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 14 2012, 08:11 PM)
You should direct your inquiries to the plastic factories.
Looking at least few hundred K since they won't do small volume anyway.
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Well, mold engraving is not REALLY NOT cheap...
However i do have a CNC machine which means i can do the CNC milling myself, but the thing is, the metal used for engraving is $$$...


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post Jun 15 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 14 2012, 07:11 PM)
You should direct your inquiries to the plastic factories.
Looking at least few hundred K since they won't do small volume anyway.
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 14 2012, 10:42 PM)
Well, mold engraving is not REALLY NOT cheap...
However i do have a CNC machine which means i can do the CNC milling myself, but the thing is, the metal used for engraving is $$$...
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Actually.. it isnt that expensive.
The mold itself is just a few K, perhaps around RM5-8k.
The injection machine rental, depends on the quantity. The fewer quantity the more expensive it becomes. But for large quantities (lets say 100k sets) might cost u less than RM5 per set after factoring in the initial cost of the mold? (im guess guesstimating)
The secondary process to make the letters cost depends on the type of lettering. Pad printing of course is cheap. But not sure for laser engraving though.

So yeah, it is quite cheap tongue.gif

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post Jun 15 2012, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 14 2012, 07:11 PM)
You should direct your inquiries to the plastic factories.
Looking at least few hundred K since they won't do small volume anyway.
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...... something like those Red Alert From Geekhack, they sell RM200 each set, and the sell around 250 sets each time,
and those are double shots meaning most possibly 2 mold.....a few hundred K each mold meaning they are losing money doing?

If we are looking for a single mold for PBT caps... I wonder what is the solid price.

But even that is probably still a stiff price for a lowly working classes like me......
rather doing that, I would buy ready made caps.....

LoL, that's what different from a American and a Malaysian, we would rather go get something from others,
but the Americans are creative and trying new things with challenges all the time, and become pionier in a lot of fields.
They make new things, so other will have to copy from them.
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post Jun 15 2012, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ Jun 15 2012, 12:47 AM)
...... something like those Red Alert From Geekhack, they sell RM200 each set, and the sell around 250 sets each time,
and those are double shots meaning most possibly 2 mold.....a few hundred K each mold meaning they are losing money doing?

If we are looking for a single mold for PBT caps... I wonder what is the solid price.

But even that is probably still a stiff price for a lowly working classes like me......
rather doing that, I would buy ready made caps.....

LoL, that's what different from a American and a Malaysian, we would rather go get something from others,
but the Americans are creative and trying new things with challenges all the time, and become pionier in a lot of fields.
They make new things, so other will have to copy from them.
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Signature plastics is the only manufacturer where you can order custom key apps from. There has been new start ups but so far, just sp. You are over thinking it.

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post Jun 15 2012, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Jun 15 2012, 01:43 AM)
Actually.. it isnt that expensive.
The mold itself is just a few K, perhaps around RM5-8k.
The injection machine rental, depends on the quantity. The fewer quantity the more expensive it becomes. But for large quantities (lets say 100k sets) might cost u less than RM5 per set after factoring in the initial cost of the mold? (im guess guesstimating)
The secondary process to make the letters cost depends on the type of lettering. Pad printing of course is cheap. But not sure for laser engraving though.

So yeah, it is quite cheap tongue.gif
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in fact, say for top and bottom mold set engrave for 108 Keysets, it costs below RM1k. But the CNC milling fees isnt cheap, where the most % in a single charge went to.

Well, now i wont ask the factory to quote me how the charges go. I need to get the wristrest ready first hand biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jun 15 2012, 07:26 AM)
Signature plastics is the only manufacturer where you can order custom key apps from. There has been new start ups but so far, just sp. You are over thinking it.
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The market is just too small for most suppliers to care. Signature plastics charge a arm and leg for what essentially is just bits of plastic. Something like Crocs. The cost price is so damn cheap because its injection molded, but they are sold at such high prices.

QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 15 2012, 08:41 AM)
in fact, say for top and bottom mold set engrave for 108 Keysets, it costs below RM1k. But the CNC milling fees isnt cheap, where the most % in a single charge went to.

Well, now i wont ask the factory to quote me how the charges go. I need to get the wristrest ready first hand biggrin.gif
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Yup just the insert to make the mold itself is very cheap, but the entire mold will cost upwards of Rm2-3k.
I work with injection molding, and i know both mold and injection suppliers, so yeah, I know these stuff arent that expensive.
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post Jun 15 2012, 04:16 PM

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cant connect to GH again

*btw to those who ordered nyan key caps from me, do note that i have made payment to them, but they havent claim the payment yet, so the whole process now remains "unknown", no progress update on their thread either
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Jun 15 2012, 08:49 AM)
The market is just too small for most suppliers to care. Signature plastics charge a arm and leg for what essentially is just bits of plastic. Something like Crocs. The cost price is so damn cheap because its injection molded, but they are sold at such high prices.
Yup just the insert to make the mold itself is very cheap, but the entire mold will cost upwards of Rm2-3k.
I work with injection molding, and i know both mold and injection suppliers, so yeah, I know these stuff arent that expensive.
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Maybe you can teach SP how not to screw up. tongue.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jun 15 2012, 04:16 PM)
cant connect to GH again

*btw to those who ordered nyan key caps from me, do note that i have made payment to them, but they havent claim the payment yet, so the whole process now remains "unknown", no progress update on their thread either
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if anything happen my nyankat i screw u upside down vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jun 15 2012, 07:34 PM)
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i want to pay them but they dont want receive, what to do.. maybe they on holiday? see no activity from them recently
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Unicomp has finally made their RGB sets available for sale again. For maybe the next week, I am taking orders. If you want me to grab an RGB set or anything else for you (keycaps only, not keyboards), please send me a PM ASAP.

Update: The site says, "Button Set: due back in early May." again! Either the RGB sets are in HIGH demand (gone in a few hours?!?) or there is something wrong with the Unicomp site. Either way, this is strengthening my resolve to get the set for some people. Please let me know if you want the RGB set and/or whatever else, and I'll do my best to bring the stuff in to Malaysia. Cost of shipping will depend on the orders I receive. I'm taking orders for the next 5- 7 days.

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post Jun 18 2012, 09:57 PM

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post Jun 18 2012, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jun 18 2012, 09:57 PM)
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only bringing the cherry G80-3800?
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post Jun 18 2012, 10:57 PM

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Supplier only has this at the moment. Perhaps other models may be available in the near future.
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post Jun 19 2012, 12:09 AM

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post Jun 19 2012, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Jun 18 2012, 10:57 PM)
Supplier only has this at the moment. Perhaps other models may be available in the near future.
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oh... anticipating other models... drool.gif drool.gif



PS: eh? cyntrix tech also carrying leopold??? i thought that one is carry by cyclone? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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*sniff* itchy to get a 3rd mech board, but wallet still dont allow me to =(
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post Jun 19 2012, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Jun 19 2012, 01:50 AM)
oh... anticipating other models...  drool.gif  drool.gif
PS: eh? cyntrix tech also carrying leopold??? i thought that one is carry by cyclone?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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bro cyclone gave stock to Cyntrix one smile.gif


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