Using Levemir + Novorapid here
Health Type 1 diabetes & Type 2 diabetes
Health Type 1 diabetes & Type 2 diabetes
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Jun 12 2013, 11:20 AM
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A Type 1 diabetic of 5 (I can't remember the date now) years or so here, an expensive hobby being a diabetic
Using Levemir + Novorapid here |
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Jun 12 2013, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 12 2013, 09:29 AM) also discuss with your doctor type of insulin that don't promote appetite. Levemir would be a good choice for weight control. Most important is to get the basal insulin dosage correct - if you're taking too much and always going low, having to snack to top-up will for sure make you increase weight |
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Jun 12 2013, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 12 2013, 11:31 AM) Yes. Always discuss with doctor any incident of lows and his. so he can adjust your insulin. But for veteran diabetic, they should be able to figure out which food to be avoided so the sugar don't goes up suddenly. Yup, but no matter how - sometimes highs / lows are unavoidable unless you stick to the same routine day in day out (with regards to food, sleep, excersize)I'm going to be investing in a CGMS (constant glucose monitor) soon to help me improve control, especially overnight levels which are the trickiest ones for me. http://www.dexcom.com/dexcom-g4-platinum This post has been edited by rjb123: Jun 12 2013, 11:37 AM |
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Jun 12 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 12 2013, 11:40 AM) Nope, it's like your normal glucose monitor - but you attach a sensor to your arm and it reads your BGs 24 hours per day. Although it does still need to be calibrated a few times per day with a standard reader.I'm on injections and not planning to change to a pump - I think being able to read BGs 24 hours per day will be of more advantage to me than a pump Also the constant monitoring system is expensive enough, not sure how much adding a pump into the mix will add. |
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Jun 12 2013, 04:53 PM
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That's one upside of being a Type 1 on insulin is you can get away with eating some things as you can bolus / inject for it extra
Just checked the price of the CGMS unit I mentioned (needs to be bough from UK)- damn expensive |
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Jun 12 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 12 2013, 05:09 PM) its worthwhile investment of course. I am lucky because my medical benefits cover test strip for gluco meter so I can test frequently every time I consume foods. Found out that I can actually eat durian without having effects on my blood glucose compare to eating grapes. When living in the UK all my test strips etc. were free, since moving to Malaysia nothing more for free - I buy them in bulk in UK and send them by courier.I tried to get a medical card here but as you can imagine , none are interested in covering existing conditions (understandably!) The cost for CGMS comes to (in RM) 4600 for initial unit, 950 for 4 sensors , one sensor guaranteed to last 1 week but can often last up to 2, transmitter 1560 guaranteed for 6 months but works up to 12. So total for a year excluding the initial cost is around 12-13k |
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Jun 12 2013, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 12 2013, 05:23 PM) The pros of having diabetes is that once an insurance agent hears that you have diabetes, he won't push anymore health insurance to you. Yep that's one benefitBut means (for me at least) all the strips + insulin have to be paid out of my own pocket. This post has been edited by rjb123: Jun 12 2013, 05:45 PM |
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Jun 14 2013, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 12 2013, 05:46 PM) I'm not Malaysian so I don't think will be eligible to discounts / using gov. hospital.QUOTE(whuffy_aniki @ Jun 12 2013, 11:58 PM) yea I import my strips from UK - cost is approx RM60 for a pack of 50, most pharmacies I see here are selling at this price for only 25 pcs. The meter I use isn't available here but can buy it in UK too for cheap (RM70 around only)Needles I buy a few hundred at a time - normally RM40-45 per box of 100 My Dexcom G4 is due to be delivered on Monday by DHL (unless it gets held up at customs) |
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Jun 16 2013, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(whuffy_aniki @ Jun 14 2013, 04:05 PM) wahhhh strips only rm60 for 50?thats cheap,im using the yellow box of optium exceed T_T 50pcs=rm105 after i become member of the pharmacy i only get rm10 discount Yep, I'm using the Accu Chek Aviva Nano meter from UK - you can buy the meter there for less than RM50 as they make the money from the strips (NHS in UK will give a Type 1 1 box of 50 per week FOC). Unfortunately the model is different to the ones available in Asia so I also have another meter I bought here for emergency.aha,2.5hours?i really jelly..yeah hypo is really a bother,suddenly vision becomes blur,very weak sensitivity too Now I'm using the same meter, and buy strips from eBay in UK - last time purchased 30 boxes or so and send over all together by courier Looks like my CGMS should be arriving by tomorrow, will need less strips and get a reading every 5 minutes |
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Jun 18 2013, 11:32 AM
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Durian has a lot of carbs actually - Low GI or High GI, still a lot of carbs
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Jun 18 2013, 11:35 AM
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And I've fitted my first sensor just now - approximately 2 hours before I'll start to get first readings / calibrate
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Jun 18 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 18 2013, 11:38 AM) 27g / 100gm total is consider superb already Yeah but you don't eat crabs dry Cooked rice has around 25g / 100G, raw rice 70-75g / 100G, 100G cooked isn't enough for a meal |
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Jun 18 2013, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 18 2013, 11:46 AM) huh cooked rice having low carbo? Well in effect cooked / raw is the same , just the cooked one has water inside hence less carbs / 100gBTW, do update us on your new meter...Dun you feel pain having needle (?) sitting under the skin all the time? How about taking shower? If I eat brown rice I normally have a 100g raw portion, equates to around 300g cooked - for me 5-7U of Novorapid depending on time of day / activity level The insertion needle on the meter is fairly long , after that the needle that goes inside is tiny (don't even get to see it, as it's inside the insertion needle) although the tool looks a bit scary at first - it's the packet on the left ![]() You keep the sensor / transmitter on the whole time - it's waterproof. Once taken off you need to replace with a new sensor - sensor guaranteed for 7 days - although some people report getting up to 4 weeks out of it, hope I get as long as possible as they're not cheap to say the least. Will update over the next few days how I get on ... today not the best start as woke up with a high BG (10.2) This post has been edited by rjb123: Jun 18 2013, 12:00 PM |
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Jun 18 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 18 2013, 12:07 PM) How about the feeling of needle permanently attached to the body.. I really having phobia on this.. Anyway.. can't afford this gadget for sure haha.. I can only feel the adhesive / tape sticking the transmitter / sensor on to be honest - don't even notice the needle insideThen again being a Type 1 I've injected myself so many times over the years I don't really feel those either anymore It does feel a bit unsual to have something stuck to you though - I'm sure I'll get used to that part soon ... This post has been edited by rjb123: Jun 18 2013, 12:10 PM |
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Jun 18 2013, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 18 2013, 12:18 PM) I know that feeling of not feeling anything after 10 years sticking needle for insulin and blood check. Yep, you get used to it thank Allah, I already passed that phase. not needing any needles and frequent Blood sugar check. Good on you, but as a T1 unless there's a major breakthrough I'll be stuck on needles for a long time - or I invest in a pump but that is REALLY expensive |
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Jun 18 2013, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 18 2013, 12:30 PM) Insulin pump is not wide spread yet in M'sia. But I did read bit & pieces from UK diabetes forum. Yeah no cheap unless we have the superb insurance scheme like those in UK & US US coverage is more likely - but I doubt you'd get insured as a pre-existing condition unfortunately.UK coverage only in some cases you'd get a pump - I was only ever eligible for the needles / insulin / strips , normally you'd only get a pump if your control wasn't that good as far as I know, or you had a phobia of needles. Same with CGMS like I just got, you'd only be eligible in UK if you were hypo - unaware. I checked with Animas UK the cost of their Vibe pump (with built in monitor) - the unit comes to RM15K (double this price in US) and of course excluding all the consumables. |
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Jun 18 2013, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 18 2013, 12:30 PM) I was wrongly diagnosed as T1 back then because they saw me as a juvenile IDDM. Probably for the good since I was on insulin day one. In the first year after initial diagnosis I thought the same too (although I wasn't overweight at all) as the BG levels seemed to control themselves pretty well, even if I forgot to inject after a meal by accidentTurns out it was just the "honeymoon period" unfortunately. |
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Jun 18 2013, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jun 18 2013, 12:35 PM) In Malaysia, once you have diabetes, you are not eligible for any health insurance. I noticed - I tried to apply for a medical card once which was rejected , they won't cover me at all.Since I'm T2, honeymoon period don't apply to me hehe. There's a company called Interglobal that do offer insurance and include pre-existing conditions but the cost is high. Around 8-9K per year, and of course that would only cover emergencies etc. and not medication/supplies for ongoing conditions |
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Jun 19 2013, 11:04 PM
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First full day (well nearly, in 1 hour) of using CGMS - and it's proving to be useful.
Not missed a single measurement (12 per hour) and plots them all on a graph on the device / syncs to PC when connected Woke me up beeping at 9AM this morning as BG was high (11.1 Time for changing that - main reason I got this |
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Jun 21 2013, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 20 2013, 10:47 PM) Hmnn interesting reading wth your new device.. Now I know why my BS can be nasty gigh if I woke up late & did my test 2 hrs from my usual time.. Yep I'm on Levemir - it used to be perfect for me , 12U per day at first, and hardly any highs or lows - I guess that was my honeymoon period making things easier. A lot of people report having to split their dose in 2, in some cases even 3 during the day. If I take only a single larger dose either it drops me too much after a few hours, or will rise like crazy for the last 6-7 hours before the next dose is dueIf I'm not mistaken you're on levenir which suppose to be a better long acting insulin Due to that rise I decided to increase Levemir by 2U and move it along 3 hours earlier to 9PM so the initial low BG comes on earlier - that plan didn't work - got woken up to Low BG alarm at 4AM (around 3.4 or so) Today going to reduce to 10U and see how I get on overnight. Very useful being able to see on a graph exactly what your BG has been doing , in the past was always guesswork! This post has been edited by rjb123: Jun 21 2013, 04:22 PM |
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