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TSthoxenzor
post Apr 28 2012, 12:12 AM, updated 14y ago

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Curious about proton wira auto, is the FC really that bad? 20 sen per KM ?? or more?

different so much with manual? auto is 4-speed right? i heard 3-speed before, is there 3 or 4?

if around year 2001~2007, around how much it worth now?

if someone owned or know more about this, please share with me, thank you so much !

(talking about 1.5 cc )
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post Apr 28 2012, 12:22 AM

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wira 1.5 auto is 3 speed only. only wira 1.6 is 4 speed but the wira 4speed auto gearbox is prone to failure while the 3 speed is pretty sturdy.

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post Apr 28 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(thoxenzor @ Apr 28 2012, 12:12 AM)
Curious about proton wira auto, is the FC really that bad?  20 sen per KM ??  or more?

different so much with manual?  auto is 4-speed right? i heard 3-speed before, is there 3 or 4?

if around year 2001~2007, around how much it worth now?

if someone owned or know more about this, please share with me, thank you so much !

(talking about 1.5 cc )
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20sen/km is around 10km/L. 10km/L is considered normal/slightly-better-than-average.. there are some wiras getting only 7 to 8km/l.
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post Apr 28 2012, 12:45 AM

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but auto 3 speed super high FC...
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:02 AM

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3 gear are suited on city drive
where the last gear will push to 3.5k rpm for speed up to 90kmph

plus the sound seem harsh
compared to my sunny 130y, it ~2.9rpm @ 110kmph

the effieciency is 8-9L/100km
or ~16 sen per km
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:10 AM

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for my sis's 7/8 years wira, one full tank can only travel less than 300km. arnd 280km. its 3speeder gearbox btw.
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:20 AM

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my family's wira... fuel meter drop significantly after overtaking cars.. 1.5L btw...
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:25 AM

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my wira 1.6 auto sux
its around 9km/l
20-25sen/km
200-220km/rm50

roughly that figure
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:57 AM

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that's why if wanna buy wira, buy those already converted to 1.8
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:59 AM

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I think has no big concern as car value very cheap only for used wira. Let say u bought at RM18k with 20cent/km is consider very cheap compare to u buy a new car worth RM75k with 15cent/km fc.
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post Apr 28 2012, 03:23 AM

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My 1997 Proton Wira 1.5 3 speed Automatic
Full tank did only 250km maximum

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post Apr 28 2012, 12:13 PM

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Mine does 8.1-8.5L/100KM. 1.5 with 3 speed gearbox. If you maintain the car well with well-controlled foot, FC is not an issue.

In case you're not sure what are those 8.5L/100KM is relative to, the Persona at my home does 7.8-8.2L/100KM with similar driving pattern.
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post Apr 28 2012, 04:12 PM

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So get a manual is just FC difference? thats all ? or ??

because of the traffic jam, still wondering should aim auto or manual ~

any advice??

Is there any saying about manual last longer or not ??
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post Apr 28 2012, 04:15 PM

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my 1993 1.6 wira max can do 200-250km per RM50
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post May 3 2012, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(thoxenzor @ Apr 28 2012, 04:12 PM)
So get a manual is just FC difference?  thats all ?  or ??

because of the traffic jam, still wondering should aim auto or manual ~

any advice?? 

Is there any saying about manual last longer or not ??
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The 3 speed auto gearbox is really hard like a brick. It doesn't give up no matter how you trash it. The 4-speed model is however more delicate.

Manual has wear and tear parts as well, such as clutch. Highly dependant on driving style.
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post May 3 2012, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(thoxenzor @ Apr 28 2012, 04:12 PM)
So get a manual is just FC difference?  thats all ?  or ??

because of the traffic jam, still wondering should aim auto or manual ~

any advice?? 

Is there any saying about manual last longer or not ??
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If jam how to see fc? Coz different jam give different result.

Mine 1.6 manual full tank can do 500 km.
My friend 1.5 auto full tank about 400 km
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 3 2012, 09:16 PM)
If jam how to see fc? Coz different jam give different result.

Mine 1.6 manual full tank can do 500 km.
My friend 1.5 auto full tank about 400 km
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1.6 and 1.5 petrol tank capacity the same? I thought 1.5 and 1.3 are same, 1.6's petrol tank are bigger
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post May 4 2012, 02:23 AM

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last tiem drive wira mivec auto 1.6. full tank rm70 can get 420km on average, personal best 450km.
btw, the gearbox really prone to failure. while it is the same as the common 4G92 1.6 engine, so expect all 4 speeder also act the same.
oh ya, some even said perdana using the same gearbox as well lolol.

during ownership changed 3 gearboxes. the third one i put ATF oil cooler and it last longest until i sold my car. so guys, ATF oil cooler is very very important
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QUOTE(shiyau @ May 4 2012, 12:33 AM)
1.6 and 1.5 petrol tank capacity the same? I thought 1.5 and 1.3 are same, 1.6's petrol tank are bigger
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Full tank around RM75 normally, when the light come out.

I heard my friend pump also about that amount. Maybe some one with 1.5 Wira can clarify.

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 4 2012, 02:23 AM)
last tiem drive wira mivec auto 1.6. full tank rm70 can get 420km on average, personal best 450km.
btw, the gearbox really prone to failure. while it is the same as the common 4G92 1.6 engine, so expect all 4 speeder also act the same.
oh ya, some even said perdana using the same gearbox as well lolol.

during ownership changed 3 gearboxes. the third one i put ATF oil cooler and it last longest until i sold my car. so guys, ATF oil cooler is very very important
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same case with Perdana, also need ATF cooler if want the gearbox to last. Maybe really same gearbox.
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post May 4 2012, 09:23 AM

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if want to buy 2nd hand p.wira ..... maybe base on ur luck la.

but, for my 11 yrs old p.wira 1.5 (a) ... the FC still maintain at average 12km/L, with daily travel in bad traffic along federal h/way.

P.wira FC not bad, but most of the owner didn't take care of their car.

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QUOTE(shiyau @ Apr 28 2012, 12:37 AM)
20sen/km is around 10km/L. 10km/L is considered normal/slightly-better-than-average.. there are some wiras getting only 7 to 8km/l.
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cool, on par with 2 liter car biggrin.gif
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post May 4 2012, 10:20 AM

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if wan to buy, always buy the 1.6 and above for auto. for manual, any will do lol.
but remember to put atf cooler
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post May 4 2012, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 4 2012, 08:59 AM)
Full tank around RM75 normally, when the light come out.

I heard my friend pump also about that amount. Maybe some one with 1.5 Wira can clarify.
same case with Perdana, also need ATF cooler if want the gearbox to last. Maybe really same gearbox.
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Yup, my 1.5 also took RM75 worth of fuel.
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post Jun 23 2012, 08:52 PM

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My Wira 1.5(A) GLi, 1999 car can do 250km to 280km max on full tank, normal driving on city roads. Translates to about 7km/litre. Sigh. Highway not yet try, should be more economical on highway, right?
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QUOTE(bob @ May 4 2012, 09:23 AM)
if want to buy 2nd hand  p.wira ..... maybe base on ur luck la.

but, for my 11 yrs old p.wira 1.5 (a) ... the FC still maintain at average 12km/L, with daily travel in bad traffic along federal h/way.

P.wira FC not bad, but most of the owner didn't take care of their car.
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may i ask yours one is svdo or mmc version???
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QUOTE(alpha_hoe @ Sep 2 2012, 08:09 PM)
may i ask yours one is svdo or mmc version???
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mine is svdo ..

fc better than mmc
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post Sep 3 2012, 01:49 PM

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my wira 1.3 fc before service was 15cents/km... i like it. but after service an increase idling threshold.. it becomes around 20cents/km liau T.T

 

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