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earthdome
post Apr 28 2012, 01:12 AM

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maybe the aircond is too cold. so need to defrost tongue.gif

on a serious note, i don't know if malaysia is cold enough to have a defroster installed

oh. it actually is this perhaps http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_is_the_defroster_in_a_car

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post Apr 28 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(shareDARK @ Apr 28 2012, 12:48 AM)
This heat issue is gonna be nightmare to all previan.
Bro whenever you are about to turn off ur engine, what is ur engine temperature reading? Half or more than half?
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ideal temperature like all cars. middle. even my carburettor cars always will show middle.
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post Apr 28 2012, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Junn @ Apr 27 2012, 05:22 PM)
U mean the whole thing sink in?

I tested it with window down, yea it does move but when windows is up, the movement is minimize
QUOTE(viperz982 @ Apr 27 2012, 05:22 PM)
You touched at soft plastic area maybe?
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donno how to express. basically the surface area near the window base.

it doesn't sink but rather it just feels shoddy.


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post Apr 28 2012, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(earthdome @ Apr 28 2012, 01:12 AM)
maybe the aircond is too cold. so need to defrost tongue.gif

on a serious note, i don't know if malaysia is cold enough to have a defroster installed

oh. it actually is this perhaps http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_is_the_defroster_in_a_car
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this is suppose to be a global car.. im sure its not design for our sake...
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post Apr 28 2012, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 28 2012, 01:09 AM)
yup.. plus component is not that expensive i think this days. if just add tweeter even more cheaper....

no idea what is a side defroster do...
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component is cheap but will void warranty? Open up the panel will void power window warranty?

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post Apr 28 2012, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(marquis @ Apr 27 2012, 11:24 PM)
Hottie, like I said wub.gif laugh.gif
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i am not...that girl need a contact lens...i'm just a thin guy lor...and not tall...

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ahsam1212
post Apr 28 2012, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Apr 27 2012, 09:43 PM)
its used to cool down the engine after it is shut down to preserve the engine if not mistaken. I think the water pump is still operating when the fan is operating. correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif
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I m not sure why it's designed as such. I don't see jap car like this. Jap car also very long life. I don't see the purpose anyway.
Water pump still operating? Is the water pump running on electric? If it's not running on electric, then i m sure water pump cannot run without the engine running. Am i making any sense here?
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post Apr 28 2012, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Apr 28 2012, 02:03 AM)
component is cheap but will void warranty? Open up the panel will void power window warranty?
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Although I do not have the answer to this question, but it reminds me of Lifetime Warranty of power windows by Proton as stated here:
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/After-Sales/...e-Warranty.aspx
No mention of Proton Preve, does it cover Preve as well? Maybe they haven't update their page? hmm.gif
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post Apr 28 2012, 02:12 AM

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I thought it's normal for cars running on turbos to sort of 'cool down' before the engine should be stopped? Isn't that why cars equipped with turbo kits use a turbo timer? So perhaps in proton's case, since the turbo is a low pressure boost, only the fan continues running to cool it down instead of having the entire engine unit running? (correct me if i'm wrong)
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post Apr 28 2012, 02:19 AM

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For the case in Persona, I heard many people said the fan also act this way, continue spinning for some time after the car is locked.

But my Persona isn't act this way, only once after I changed timing belt recently and the mechanic not properly tighten some seal/screw so my radiator run dried and temperature runs high. Only this one time, the fan continue to run even I shut down the engine and removed the key. So what I guess is, the fan will only continue to spin when the temperature is higher than the set "safe region". Anyway, this is just my guess.


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QUOTE(Jane's @ Apr 28 2012, 02:12 AM)
I thought it's normal for cars running on turbos to sort of 'cool down' before the engine should be stopped? Isn't that why cars equipped with turbo kits use a turbo timer? So perhaps in proton's case, since the turbo is a low pressure boost, only the fan continues running to cool it down instead of having the entire engine unit running? (correct me if i'm wrong)
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its doesnt need to have the whole engine running coz its water cooled and there is an electric water pump...

correct me if im wrong...
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post Apr 28 2012, 03:02 AM

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If your water pump is electric, then it makes some sense. If water pump runs on pulley connected to engine, then fan running after engine shut off will be useless. So, persona, saga, preve all electric water pump ? Owner pls hv a look at your engine bay. I m interested to know. thanks.


Added on April 28, 2012, 3:07 amFrom simple google search for persona water pump, i see that it has a pulley that needs the engine to be running to circulate the water from engine to radiator n vice versa.

I assumed it's the same for preve. So, why on earth is the fan running after turning off the engine? It still doesn't make sense to me at all. Fan running to cool the radiator, but no water circulation. Heat transfer by conduction will be much slower in this process without water circulation.

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The electric water pump is clearly seen during the power 1 event...
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post Apr 28 2012, 03:17 AM

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Any photo to share?
I think it's for the turbo only right? It's not the engine water pump.
Engine water pump runs with the engine, no electric pump.

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post Apr 28 2012, 03:31 AM

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If you still uncomfortable with this behavior, I've found a discussion regarding this issue here:
http://community.cartalk.com/discussion/22...with-engine-off

For your convenient, I've paste a few answers that make sense for your reference smile.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Just trying to help... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 28 2012, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(K2002 @ Apr 27 2012, 09:31 PM)
hmmm. not too sure why is it suppose to be like that or all turbo cars will be having a hot air flowing down to the floor... after i power off the car. Lock the car. the alternator fan will still run for 1 minute or 2 before it auto close it self. is it applicable to all turbo cars? the sales person says all soft turbo got intercooler. this car intercooler is place near the tyre on the left hand side.... is it right or wrong not too sure..i dunno how to check what part what part also. and is bit too noisy if open air cond...inside cannot hear...but outside seems like a very huge fan spinning. can feel the heat outside at the floor. the bonnet also feel so much hotter compare to my normal carburetor car. 1.3 daihatsu charade. of course both is compare after running on the road for more than 30 minutes. both car is warm up 1 or 2 minutes before run.
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even 308 turbo also having this feature dude.. the fan will keep on spinning to cool it off after you have switched off the engine... don't worry too much...
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post Apr 28 2012, 07:14 AM

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The spinning fan after switching off engine is normal, it's present on the Exora Bold CFE as well, and it is quite loud icon_question.gif

The Campro engine itself runs rather hot compare to other makes, not to mention now it comes with a turbo.
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post Apr 28 2012, 07:27 AM

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I never heard about the fan things before. If the fans still spinning even after the engine shut off in order to cool down the radiator or engine is something good. It suites with malaysian tropics climate. I guess prtn learned that many cars in malaysia had overheating problem.


Added on April 28, 2012, 7:27 amI never heard about the fan things before. If the fans still spinning even after the engine shut off in order to cool down the radiator or engine is something good. It suites with malaysian tropics climate. I guess prtn learned that many cars in malaysia had overheating problem.

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post Apr 28 2012, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(shareDARK @ Apr 28 2012, 07:27 AM)
I never heard about the fan things before. If the fans still spinning even after the engine shut off in order to cool down the radiator or engine is something good. It suites with malaysian tropics climate. I guess prtn learned that many cars in malaysia had overheating problem.


Added on April 28, 2012, 7:27 amI never heard about the fan things before. If the fans still spinning even after the engine shut off in order to cool down the radiator or engine is something good. It suites with malaysian tropics climate. I guess prtn learned that many cars in malaysia had overheating problem.
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Yeah..understood.most malaysians r too lazy to read.
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QUOTE(aisamuddin87 @ Apr 28 2012, 07:39 AM)
Yeah..understood.most malaysians r too lazy to read.
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ya..true..i got test on monday, still lazy to read until now sad.gif

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