Hi all pros/master/sifu on bike world,

Ok so i straight to the point, am 23 this year 178 height, 80kg (Not sure if its needed to judge the size of the bike suitable or not) staying in KL, working currently and being a driver for 4 years+ and i always wanted to get a bike...

The reason is simple, to avoid traffic jam (trafficjamphobia), to get easy parking, to save time, to save fuel and of course to get the cool-ness

I'm don't have any good knowledge or experience on bike, nvr actually ride one before, no bike license yet (atleast for now) so i can't judge how good a bike is BUT ducati monster 696 was the one who got me attention (its like first love in first sight) so i do some research and i know monster series also come with 795, 796, 1100, and etc...I know its 600+ cc, 300+lbs, can reach 100km/h in 4s, sexy body and frames, Rm59k or more or less (not so sure yet), air-cooled system and etc...

Well, i do know that people often get advise on getting smaller bike/scooter as first bike since its easy to learn and whatever, i saw and read all these from yahoo.answer and from my research but to me i always think getting what you want or like is something truly different and that kind of feeling is awesome!

What im planning to do is that i will grab a bike (most probably 696, unless i got convinced on some other good bike/advise) in 6 months time then i self-train around my housing area for few months (don't bother bout the license as i will get it b4 i get a bike) so i need you guys advise for a guy like me do you think ducati 696 suit me as my first bike in terms of handling, maneuver, size or anything that will be a factors pros/cons. You may also pm me if you wanted too

Thanks for reading and very much appreciated !!

This post has been edited by robccs: Apr 20 2012, 09:24 AM

try er6n first ad the ducati maintenance is higher than kawasaki

Thanks for the suggestion bro

not too mention the 6n is only rm 34k OTR..
and when you have mastered this bike you ca upgrade to 1000cc no prob

how much ur salary...??
u need to think about maintenance also...
the roadtax, insurance, wheel and etc..
dont buy a bike then u cant afford those maintenance thing..

ya..i oso suggest er6n..but better wait er6f '12...heheh

696 are no longer available brand new, and a second hand Duc without warranty is actually, quite a nightmare. Brand new 795 at RM63k OTR come with 2 years warranty with no mileage limit.

This is my review of the 795.

http://2fwc.com/index.php?topic=55.0

Anyway, as mr ben suggested, get the ER6n. Best learners bike.

Anything do PM me. I`m always willing to help

Thanks for the reply and advise

I should say i don't have any financial issue on getting a bike at that cost and as well the maintenance too

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Added on April 20, 2012, 9:38 amAha, very much appreciate bro

This post has been edited by robccs: Apr 20 2012, 09:38 AM

i suggest you to get the er6. and if you wanna upgrade real soon then get a second hand one.

I am currently riding only a small bike (Krr150zx), i used to ride a Modenas kriss. What i can say is that the bigger the bike, the harder it is to maneuver in the jam. So if your bike is way too big to filter in the jam, there is no point of getting the bike to avoid jam. just my 2 cents =)

Thank you, will come back to you if i have any doubt

if like that u can buy it...
but for ur first bike, i recommend kawasaki er6n or er6f...
then u upgrade to 1000cc...

but actually, after trying the 795, I`ll say the 795 easier to ride compared to er6n. the only problem is the price, but if its not a problem then..

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Added on April 20, 2012, 9:45 amYou are 178 and 80kg, so you fit perfectly on the 795, no problem. Just make sure you get used to the acceleration in traffic though.

This post has been edited by EyraYus: Apr 20 2012, 09:45 AM

no bike experience?

better learn the bike properly first

riding a big bike in traffic is very difficult, not to mention extremely dangerous - should you do a handle lock, and fall to the side, and a car / lorry from the back did not manage to stop in time - you know the drill

plus, falling off a bike due to handle lock is abit malu

i'd suggest you get a B-full license (no need B2, straight B-full)

and rent / borrow a small moped to try to familiarise yourslef for a few months

then you choose your bike

for street riding, try to find a "naked" bike as they are more maneuvrable in traffic, rather than a superbike, such as the R1 or 1199 Panigale

talking about the Panigale, I forget that I got invited to the launching yesterday

Realize that at 9pm, too lazy to get out of bed already..

how's the CBR250R as a learner's bike? for someone with no experience with bikes (bicycles maybe but bikes are a different story im sure)

Best learners bike will probably be the yamaha fz150i. Familiarize with it first then buy the bike you want.

Handle lock is really dangerous and malu, I experienced it when first got 150cc sports tourer even I have ridden for years in kapcai and another 175cc naked. If ducati fall down cry owhhhh

oh hi terra, remember me?

what is a bike handle lock? i googled it and got adverts of handle bar lockers >.>

Just to share with you as i was in the same predicament as you as i have never ridden a bike before and went for the B Full licence by learning on the ER6n in driving school. The first lesson, I was not even allowed near the bike and I was given a kapchai to ride for 2hrs familiarising with the dynamics of a motorcycle. Come 2nd lesson, I was asked to use the ER6n for the first time and i was told to push the bike out first. OMG..I didn't realise how difficult it was pushing a 200lbs bike let alone riding it. It took me a hell of a tough time just to push it out and maneuver into the road. The bike feels like it wants to drop on either side and even worse is when you try to turn it. The handlebar has very small turning radius and it was damn heavy. I was taught how to start and play with the clutch, gears and brakes. Easy said than done. Somehow I manage to move the bike in first gear. The problem is stopping as you have to control clutch , rear brake and front brakes. and at the same time balancing the bike. I took it for a spin and have to stop at the junction. I got confused with the clutch and foot brakes. Everytime i press the clutch to prevent from stalling, i thought i was pressing the brakes (this is what bicycle does to you) and I immediately put down both my feet. Problem, now is i do not have brakes and as I panic I pressed the front brakes and my left leg tried to reach the ground. The bike fell on my left side slowly. It didn't hit me but my arms and shoulders were already sore by the weight of the bike. It was a nightmare and the instructor helped me to pull up the bike and I hatook a huge lashing from him. The dynamics of a big bike is not a joke. I went for a second round and the same happened as I drop the bike for a second time. I need to compose myself and relax and I manage to stop and start a few times without stalling or dropping the bike. This was my first two hours of riding experience and on a test course. I haven't even started doing all the obstacles yet and my hands and arm was like sore for two weeks.

My advice sir, is do not underestimate the dynamics of a big bike. mastering the maneuvere is key and also the controls. I made a mistake that i should have bought a bike first and learn slowly myself. The best way to start is to put a bike on a paddock stand and start playing with the brakes, clutch, change gears and moving in 1st gear. After that is done, then learn to push the bike in and out, reverse, left and right until you are familiar with the weight distribution and how the bike behaves by understanding the handlebar lock and so on. The pushing, puling and turning will help you learn how to use your body weight to push the bike without dropping it.

The find a quiet road and start practising short start , move in 1st gear, go and stop very frequently and then move on to cornering.

Once you have done this countless times, go the test driving course and learn the obstacles and also the road safety procedures by stopping at junctions, switching lanes etc etc. Take at least 10hrs for all this.

Maybe after 2 or 3 months then only start riding on Public roads. A bike is not a car, any marginal error is not as forgiving as a car. A car may acquire small dent which can be fixed but a dent on you maybe fatal.

This post has been edited by dvng: Apr 20 2012, 12:13 PM

How I started was...

ZXR250 -> 1000cc sports

but since streetbikes are much more forgivable, I'm pretty sure you can safely start with the Duc.

Heck... I poison a fren and he bought his first bike 250cc scooter, then 3 months later a 800cc BMW, and now he have 4 superbikes. and He is 58 yrs old!

So just go ahead with your Duc, take some lesson, maybe an advance riding course (not required but you will get more enjoyment out of your bike).