I wish to address an issue that was mentioned at TT yesterday implying that I had monetary gains from this supercircuit GB..which is entirely not true..let me explain..

Those did not know how this GB started, I will fill in the details for you from the beginning with summary and let you judge for yourself.

1. I went to supercircuit (SC) on my own and knowingly paid RM1200 (full price include installation) for a 421 extractor before anybody mentioned they wanted SC on this thread.

2. Several weeks later at TT, k3, T630 and another guy (I forgotten who, sorry) sat on my car to test the sound and feel of SC extractor and they all found to be what they wanted and I mentioned to them if you guys are serious, I recalled Frank said GB of minimum 5 pieces will cost RM800+ (This info/figure I vaguely recalled from info provided by Gurdian aka John in whatsapp chat, John was the first that installed SC from this forum)

3. After that, those fellas (T630 & nzh) are getting serious on the GB thing, I was then asked on whatsapp to contact Frank and trash out the details for this GB, The offer I got initially for GB of 5 units is RM880 extractor plus RM50 for installation. And I posted this info on forum to get the required number to get this GB started.

4. Soon after, I was again requested by jnick and nzh in whatsapp to nego for a lower price since the GB now expanded to nearly 10 people...I said I will try but not guarantee any success. Since I thought I negotiated with Frank, might as well I help the guys in GB settle the deposits with Frank too. (Maybe this was my biggest mistake!)

5. On the day I paid the deposits to Frank at his shop (MeToo and freakystein was there too), we already had 12 people on the GB, I nego with him this time face to face and he said its possible to give us a very special price of RM900 include installation and at this moment he told me once the whole GB is complete, he will refund me the difference that I paid "extra" for my 421 extractor, he felt its only fair to me, which is RM1200 I paid earlier minus RM900, equals to RM300..I thank him for his courtesy.

6. The fact is I never requested for this "refund" to be agreed as part of the GB deal with Frank nor expected Frank to refund me, if he did not, I would still be happy with RM1200 paid and also be happy you guys get a better deal. No sour feeling on my part.

I initiated this GB because of my friends requested me to do so and I sincerely hope you guys get the best deal from SC...those who wanna question my integrity (for mere RM300) is best to clarify with me before jumping into conclusion

From the beginning I have not hidden this fact (ask Metoo, NZH, HSK, JackNg, underworld, dessimo),why would I bother sharing this info if I had the intention to cheat? I never mention this point on the forum because its not necessary to do so as its not going to affect the GB in anyway. The names I have mentioned here can bear witness to what has transpired behind the scenes, feel free to ask them directly..I rest my case if you still feel I have cheated or gain from the GB...

This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Apr 28 2012, 10:02 AM

Let me reply your pointers my friend.

1. RM300 was mentioned at TT and I was NOT there to say my part, so its best I clarified to ALL in this forum include those no business in the GB like yourself

2. this I agree, that is why I have said after paying the deposits to Frank, its best you all in the GB within a week go nego with Frank what 1.8 people need for testing as I DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT EXTRACTOR DESIGN

3. I did handle with care, are you implying i didnt? In what way? Am I supposed to be there at SC supervising Frank everyday to make everyone happy?

4. If you read my statement properly, I mentioned I help because I was asked to help nego the GB price, NOT TO BE THERE FOR R&D, I HAVE NEVER COMMITTED TO THAT, PERIOD!

5. No proper handover? I have discussed with NZH in private many times, he knows whats going on, if you dont please stop flaming

6. Its not personal it just business BUT its personal when my integrity is flamed behind my back for no fault of mine..

Clear??

This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Apr 28 2012, 10:46 AM

your entitled to your opinion, although you have no business in the GB, I respect that, like you said we are here to discuss NOT argue,

but most of your "facts" are hearsay and assumptions, then does it mean I am guilty or unprofessional in your books? I know my part and I did mine, to me its done.

funny thing is those in GB is not making a fuse but those NOT in the GB are... what is the agenda here?

to your point again, I have clearly stated from the BEGINNING is my job is to nego the GB with Frank, those R&D part is not my business because I dont own a 1.8, and I have installed my extractor, why should I be involved in the R&D and dyno for 1.8? I cannot commit to that, they know that. I have said many times, my commitment to the GB is up to deposit payment to Frank, the rest is up to those who want the R&D part..please clarify this FACT with NZH, MeToo and the rest. I am not washing hands, IF I am would I bother to even reply you and clarify the points you made?


[quote=stewPik,Apr 28 2012, 10:56 AM]
Let me reply your pointers my friend.

1. RM300 was mentioned at TT and I was NOT there to say my part, so its best I clarified to ALL in this forum include those no business in the GB like yourself

Thanks for this, but again i am not in GB, even if i was....it doesn't matter as i was mention...

2. this I agree, that is why I have said after paying the deposits to Frank, its best you all in the GB within a week go nego with Frank what 1.8 people need for testing as I DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT EXTRACTOR DESIGN
Most of us don't have a clue on design, as i remembered NZH did go over right ? and frank mention something about end of month ?

3. I did handle with care, are you implying i didnt? In what way? Am I supposed to be there at SC supervising Frank everyday to make everyone happy?
i did not imply anything...i just said it needs to handle with care............

4. If you read my statement properly, I mentioned I help because I was asked to help nego the GB price, NOT TO BE THERE FOR R&D, I HAVE NEVER COMMITTED TO THAT, PERIOD!
IMHO, just my opinion, then still u started it, u should still see it to the end ....no ???

5. No proper handover? I have discussed with NZH in private many times, he knows whats going on, if you dont please stop flaming
proper handover... ..discussed with NZH, but did any of you BRING HIM TO MEET FRANK ?

6. Its not personal it just business BUT its personal when my integrity is flamed behind my back for no fault of mine..
We are not pointing fingers here..........no one is good or bad......i personally feel as the GB starter then u shouldn't just wash hands like this.....again just my 2cents..........(my personally feelings, nothing more)

Clear?? Yea, thanks

Again.....me not in GB la........just giving my 2cents.......but does it really matter ??? LoL

I only trying to clear some clouds here,as i was in TT and did discuss with them on this issue, i'm answering cuz i too wanna clear the cloud on urside!


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Please accept my apologies for not performing up to expectation...didnt know it will cause such confusions among us...hopefully nzh and miuk can settle all by today and give those 1.8 guys a decent reply...

LMAO!!!