Fail welding is fail.
Proton FAIL!
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 Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM, updated 14y ago
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Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:03 PM
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wow .. this is so fast poke .. congrats TS ...
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Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
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This means their QC are still not up to standards.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
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Proton penipu scammer!
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Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
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LOL...how dare u think /k is so dumb enough to believe this?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
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car below 100k, wat u expect?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
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bump .. bump .. teheewhewhewhew
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Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM
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bangan jgak.. honda insight pun ade natang ni..
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Apr 18 2012, 06:05 PM
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so, how is not a failed welding? ayam noob besi
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Apr 18 2012, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(momox666 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM)  |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:05 PM
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Oh my goodness!
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Apr 18 2012, 06:05 PM
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i think i real one . because he took the picture from proton center lol
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Apr 18 2012, 06:06 PM
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slowpoke to the max.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:06 PM
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kereta potong
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Apr 18 2012, 06:06 PM
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REALLY?? then i need rush to showroom n see
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Apr 18 2012, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(goldentiger @ Apr 18 2012, 06:05 PM) i think i real one . because he took the picture from proton center lol ok..wai..proton have only one model... |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:07 PM
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who's the welder ni ... i tot they using robotic arms welder ... err correct if am wrong .. ayam no good in automotive ........
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Apr 18 2012, 06:07 PM
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Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM
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wow... looks like hand welded by indonesian
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Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM
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Nobody will notice much as normally ppl won't tear out the covering or cushion to see what's inside
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Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(akisendro @ Apr 18 2012, 06:07 PM) who's the welder ni ... i tot they using robotic arms welder ... err correct if am wrong .. ayam no good in automotive ........ Robot just only weld some part, some part need done by human due too complex..but this quality |
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sangat teliti QC check oleh pengguna malaysia.. hampir setiap sudut nampak kecelaan kereta proton.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM
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onom nom nom .. waiting for the basher vs fanbois .... err when the movie start weh ?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(kica @ Apr 18 2012, 06:06 PM)   |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:10 PM
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nasib baik aku tak beli lagi
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Apr 18 2012, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(momox666 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) car below 100k, wat u expect? below 100k is not money? |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM
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as a quality engineer, this weld is acceptable. why waste money doing full weld when u can just tack weld and get the strength needed?
door frame is not structurally integral to the car so it not critical and that weld is probably stronger than the base metal surrounding it. I'd love to see the welding on other more expensive cars. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM
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show full picture la thats look like vios
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Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM
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ok la ni .. just a welded part ony .... the rest still looks intact what .. still ayam proud with proton ..... .hewhewhew
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Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM
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LOL, i didnt see thsi i my waja
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Apr 18 2012, 06:14 PM
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apsal buruk sgt weld dia hahaha, but i dunno if it will effect the integrity of the car, if it doesnt, then dont bother
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Apr 18 2012, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:12 PM) below 100k is not money? yeah...no need compare with honda, toyota n soso. even, perodua make better then them  |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) bangan jgak.. honda insight pun ade natang ni.. y no one want to quote dis?  |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM
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Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM) as a quality engineer, this weld is acceptable. why waste money doing full weld when u can just tack weld and get the strength needed? Perodua can do a better job at this man.door frame is not structurally integral to the car so it not critical and that weld is probably stronger than the base metal surrounding it. I'd love to see the welding on other more expensive cars. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM
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where pic broken button on dashboard?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM
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not structural parts.. welding sikit cukuplah
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Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM
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When it comes to Proton, everyone will be "QC" checker in showroom, he he..
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Apr 18 2012, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(momox666 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:04 PM) car below 100k, wat u expect? cant says like tat, even below 40k also cannt accept quality like thisbut i doubt the pic car is preve lar.. looks like half cut from other car |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:16 PM
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seem choppy for some picx
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Apr 18 2012, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail.  |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Apr 18 2012, 07:16 PM) no one posted yet in /k .. so consider ok ok la .... |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:18 PM
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this is embarrassing!
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Apr 18 2012, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(dude1218 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM) Robot just only weld some part, some part need done by human due too complex.. itu kan spot weld.....welding paling senang dalam duniabut this quality |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:19 PM
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it's not failed yet, it's style yo!
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Apr 18 2012, 06:19 PM
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so after this we will have the broken 'button' picture?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:20 PM
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This kind of welding will fail Pussykom inspection ....
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Apr 18 2012, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Apr 18 2012, 07:20 PM) This kind of welding will fail Pussykom inspection .... ever heard about 'runner' yo .. ada wang semua jalan ...  |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:21 PM
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like welding gate grill only...
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Apr 18 2012, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Apr 18 2012, 06:21 PM) like welding gate grill only... now that you mention it.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:23 PM
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this thing is like the inner part of the car, if the welding strong enough can hold the piece, they why they wan to file off the weld to make it pretty since it is not exterior.. please use some brain, u only see this when u open and close the door, sometimes u dont even see them.. u everyday go check the part at where u open and close door? u too dumb nothing better to do?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:23 PM
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this is preve
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And Dr. M say "Please be prepared to pay more for something good."
LULZ. |
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Haha shitty potong sambung.. I told u so.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Apr 18 2012, 06:19 PM) so after this we will have the broken 'button' picture? QUOTE(ck_boon @ Apr 18 2012, 06:23 PM) this is preve ah..just in time. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:23 PM) this thing is like the inner part of the car, if the welding strong enough can hold the piece, they why they wan to file off the weld to make it pretty since it is not exterior.. please use some brain, u only see this when u open and close the door, sometimes u dont even see them.. u everyday go check the part at where u open and close door? u too dumb nothing better to do? 1st - i wonder is that confirm Preve or not2nd - which part of the poor welding is ar by looking at the pic? |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:25 PM
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errr .... why ony bash2 ... where's the protector of proton name.... pls cumming innnnn ....
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Apr 18 2012, 06:25 PM
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ffffuuuu malaysians best QC checker in the world
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Apr 18 2012, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) LOL...how dare u think /k is so dumb enough to believe this? u know la..smart guys get it.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(robeng @ Apr 18 2012, 06:26 PM) u know la..smart guys get it.. that is inspira... |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:24 PM) 1st - i wonder is that confirm Preve or not Let's go showroom. Together 2nd - which part of the poor welding is ar by looking at the pic?  Just to Preve its a Preve |
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TS!!!! GO buy urself A MERCEDES!!!!!!..........
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) LOL...how dare u think /k is so dumb enough to believe this? if someone comment said that proton fails,means /k/ really dumb..bagai lembu dicucuk hidung.. |
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:27 PM) Let's go showroom. Together why dont have a full resolution picture and let us zoom in?Just to Preve its a Preve |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) LOL...how dare u think /k is so dumb enough to believe this? if someone comment said that proton fails,means /k/ really dumb..bagai lembu dicucuk hidung.. |
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:24 PM) 1st - i wonder is that confirm Preve or not yeah, which is poor welding? is no attractive welding consider poor welding? then now i know why malaysian are dumb( singapork ppl owes say so)2nd - which part of the poor welding is ar by looking at the pic? This post has been edited by ben3003: Apr 18 2012, 06:30 PM |
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM) as a quality engineer, this weld is acceptable. why waste money doing full weld when u can just tack weld and get the strength needed? Alamak... quality engineer can accept this low weld quality. No wonder Proton quality fail tak laku.door frame is not structurally integral to the car so it not critical and that weld is probably stronger than the base metal surrounding it. I'd love to see the welding on other more expensive cars. |
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:29 PM) yeah, which is poor welding? is no attractive welding consider poor welding? then now i know why malaysian are dumb( singapork ppl owes say so) i mean, by looking at the pic, the so called poor welding at which part? door? or where? |
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yada yada preve best in world others not car others are toys only preve is a car. nuffsaid
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:28 PM) why dont have a full resolution picture and let us zoom in? blurr la.sohai phone take sohai pic but if u insist     |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:32 PM
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maybe someone with the structural engineering or QC background would say this welding part is enough and more than capable for its structural integrity ...
but for someone with no/less knowledge about this ... when they see this .. i think they wont be so impressed about the things ... This post has been edited by akisendro: Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM |
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:31 PM) blurr la. sohai phone take sohai pic but if u insist i mean take the pic at far and show its original pic and proof that is preve... coz i cant figure out where is the poor welding is also... This post has been edited by cypher: Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM
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Must be manual welding already... if robots, definitely not this quality.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM
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that's called ubermancsh wunder welding, german technology brah. u no learn engineering?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:31 PM) blurr la. dah try ketuk or bengkok the door? seems like very fragile.sohai phone take sohai pic but if u insist |
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM) i mean take the pic at far and show its original pic and proof that is preve... coz i cant figure out where is the poor welding is also... Whether this constitutes poor welding or not, this question is best to be answered by those in the industry. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM) i mean take the pic at far and show its original pic and proof that is preve... coz i cant figure out where is the poor welding is also... |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(ico12 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM) that's called ubermancsh wunder welding, german technology brah. u no learn engineering? uber , beli beli uber |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM) It is Preve. i think it will hold well, integrity is there, but just not refine, sakit mata jugak tgk. Im sure if u spent tons of cash, u want ur purchase to be good n refined.Whether this constitutes poor welding or not, this question is best to be answered by those in the industry. This post has been edited by FrostLance: Apr 18 2012, 06:35 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM
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later halfway driving whole thing fall apart.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:33 PM) It is Preve. visually not pleasing, feedback from people who buy them more important.. Whether this constitutes poor welding or not, this question is best to be answered by those in the industry. |
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:31 PM) blurr la. lol @ 20 years of car industriessohai phone take sohai pic but if u insist |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:35 PM
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hmm no one bother to check whether honda or others to see if its the same?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(daruma @ Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM) later halfway driving whole thing fall apart. lancia Beta..... |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Apr 18 2012, 07:24 PM) ah..just in time. haha where is the like button? there is no like button in lyn! |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 18 2012, 07:35 PM) hmm no one bother to check whether honda or others to see if its the same? welkam to malesia .... |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 18 2012, 06:35 PM) hmm no one bother to check whether honda or others to see if its the same? My Myvi dont have |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM) When it comes to Proton, everyone will be "QC" checker in showroom, he he.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:40 PM
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marehsia, where national car will be 120% QC inspected even at places people doesn't see when they go inside a car, button pushed and pushed, and pushed until break, then spread the problem in internet like there is no tomorrow. and thinks import cars doesn't milo tin.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:42 PM
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maybe this one for show room....just weld n show only. the one for sell might be well built...
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Apr 18 2012, 06:43 PM
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So i heard you guys are safety concern people?
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Apr 18 2012, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(figuremeout @ Apr 18 2012, 06:42 PM) maybe this one for show room....just weld n show only. the one for sell might be well built... or maybe they trolling and put a defect one to see how many you can spot |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:45 PM
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I just check my inspira door welding looks gooding yoh.
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Apr 18 2012, 06:43 PM) or maybe they trolling and put a defect one to see how many you can spot like that..blindman oso can spot the defect  |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:45 PM
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shit lah, this is Potong waht , nobody expected it to be 100% good right? As long as it dont break apart when we langgar Kancil then its ok mah. Seriously, if you want good car buy Toyota, people buy Proton is to support crony.
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Apr 18 2012, 06:46 PM
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Ehh better ask pakar weld.
Ofc first glance not nice to eyes.... = = |
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Apr 18 2012, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Apr 18 2012, 06:36 PM) haha where is the like button? There's a wub button. there is no like button in lyn!  |
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actually whose idea was this? can't a single piece of metal be bended?
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM) i think it will hold well, integrity is there, but just not refine, sakit mata jugak tgk. Im sure if u spent tons of cash, u want ur purchase to be good n refined. If it is proven that it remains strong, then it is a non-issue.When I say I want to get a Proton, I am at the loggerheads with parents This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Apr 18 2012, 07:25 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(akisendro @ Apr 18 2012, 06:07 PM) who's the welder ni ... i tot they using robotic arms welder ... err correct if am wrong .. ayam no good in automotive ........ yup. i oso didnt belive this photo. |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(daruma @ Apr 18 2012, 06:35 PM) lol @ 20 years of car industries 25 years to exact |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:24 PM
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Even my mother's new FLX welding is ok.
How come Preve's welding like this? @FrostLance But welding in 2nd picture is really bad.It looks like the welding cracked already. @figuremeout Some Proton Sales Center do sell the car that they keep as model.So no matter whether it's display model or model to be sold Proton should have done better with the welding. |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:26 PM
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Not SPOT weld but TACK weld.
QUOTE it looks more like a tack weld to me, spot weld, absolutely not~ spot welds in automotive industry are mostly automated with robotic articulated arms. . . Engineer friend told me This post has been edited by FrostLance: Apr 18 2012, 07:27 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:29 PM
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holy shlt and its a global car hahahah
close shop la dem protong |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:31 PM
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let me compare proton pervert quality 2 tis benz
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Apr 18 2012, 07:31 PM
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I just look at pintu Citra mpv, and have the same welding spot but more "kemas"
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Apr 18 2012, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(akisendro @ Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM) onom nom nom .. waiting for the basher vs fanbois .... err when the movie start weh ? kadang-kadang kerja pesaing.nak memburuk-burukkan product orang lain.Proton(nama already buruk) + Product (already worst) = Everything screw up. |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:32 PM
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from this blogger i think
he booked anyway http://otoreview.blogspot.com/2012/04/clos...reve-16cfe.html |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:42 PM
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Apr 18 2012, 07:44 PM
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world car kot...
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Apr 18 2012, 07:50 PM
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If you're unsatisfied with the car that you get you can always refuse to sign the agreement when you go to pick up your car.Proton should give you another car.
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Apr 18 2012, 07:54 PM
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lucky haven't yet jeremy clarkson test.
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Apr 18 2012, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Apr 18 2012, 06:10 PM) nasib baik aku tak beli lagi Wait for the Sapphire version. |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(yuyuyu @ Apr 18 2012, 06:45 PM) I just check my inspira door welding looks gooding yoh. in the end... INSPIRA > EVERYTHING ELSE. |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Hidan @ Apr 18 2012, 07:54 PM) lucky haven't yet jeremy clarkson test. oh u juz wait.. he will come to it eventually  will he rage and ... - set it on fire? - roll it down a hill? - C4 it? - drop it from height? - used it as target practice? |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Apr 18 2012, 07:31 PM) let me compare proton pervert quality 2 tis benz no,compare the proton with this..paintjob already 7 layers  |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Apr 18 2012, 07:50 PM) If you're unsatisfied with the car that you get you can always refuse to sign the agreement when you go to pick up your car.Proton should give you another car. same case with my astro beyond..im order PVR and their send me beyond basic..later i dunwan to sign their form installation |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:02 PM
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Basher selamanya....
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Apr 18 2012, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(MrSafe @ Apr 18 2012, 08:02 PM) this aint sport car...top gear wont be testing it. unless the producer told so, it just 1.6L with low boost and top speed are just only 180 or 190 for the highest variant savvy, myvi and neo pun ada dalam topgear.. this 1.6 with turbo maa.. if it really make it to top gear , i consider stop watching top gear as they quality are dropping seriously |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(MrSafe @ Apr 18 2012, 08:02 PM) this aint sport car...top gear wont be testing it. unless the producer told so, it just 1.6L with low boost and top speed are just only 180 or 190 for the highest variant i want to see what JEremy says about the weilding. Will he take a hammer and hit it? if it really make it to top gear , i consider stop watching top gear as they quality are dropping seriously |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:04 PM
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so?
safe to drive or not? |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:07 PM
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wow excident terus jadi keta potong hence proton
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Apr 18 2012, 08:07 PM
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Again very bad job from Proton. Still cannot improve after 25 years.
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Apr 18 2012, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:59 PM) no,compare the proton with this..paintjob already 7 layers wow quality  |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:11 PM
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Wow..all unit like this?
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Apr 18 2012, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Apr 18 2012, 07:54 PM) Wait for the Sapphire version. u think u gona pay 85k for that sapphire version? i rather buy a hybrid car |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:24 PM
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meh, it feels like bashers bashing with no knowledge already. in /k/, everyone's an expert, especially in criticizing. Are you guys even know what's that welding technique before making assumption? 'oh god, protong liao, it's bad~~~~~', wonder if the car change logo to import car' oh, it's for safety, ugly is okay, sure got more strength, it's an import car after all~~~'
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Apr 18 2012, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Apr 18 2012, 06:24 AM) meh, it feels like bashers bashing with no knowledge already. in /k/, everyone's an expert, especially in criticizing. Are you guys even know what's that welding technique before making assumption? 'oh god, protong liao, it's bad~~~~~', wonder if the car change logo to import car' oh, it's for safety, ugly is okay, sure got more strength, it's an import car after all~~~' meh, it feels like supporters support blindly. in /k/, everyone's a patriot, especially in supporting proton. Are you guys even know what's called national pride before making criticism? 'oh god, people criticize protong liao, must ask for pictures/evidence~~~~~', wonder if the people show pictures of the poor quality of proton' oh, it's ok lar, what do you expect, it's made in 98 seconds each after all~~~'This post has been edited by mrg220t: Apr 18 2012, 08:35 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:41 PM
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Please la
u know how many cars proton produce per day? per minute mana ada masa mau check? |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Apr 18 2012, 08:35 PM) meh, it feels like supporters support blindly. in /k/, everyone's a patriot, especially in supporting proton. Are you guys even know what's called national pride before making criticism? 'oh god, people criticize protong liao, must ask for pictures/evidence~~~~~', wonder if the people show pictures of the poor quality of proton' oh, it's ok lar, what do you expect, it's made in 98 seconds each after all~~~' nope.jpg, just a bunch of jerks who didnt gave the same amount of chance to certain car manufacturer, condemning everything blindly with utmost forces of unrelenting hatred to the name proton, and ferociously defending other car manufacturers with hypocritical thought and relentless respect. Have faith. That's matter. Would i buy proton? Maybe. Would I buy other cars? Maybe also. Just narrowing your thought on 'oh, proton will never improve', makes no wonder that Malaysia will not move forward. Rather than blindly bashing, helps improve by providing good criticism and feedback through proper channel. That isn't so hard. |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Apr 18 2012, 08:42 PM) nope.jpg, just a bunch of jerks who didnt gave the same amount of chance to certain car manufacturer, condemning everything blindly with utmost forces of unrelenting hatred to the name proton, and ferociously defending other car manufacturers with hypocritical thought and relentless respect. Have faith. That's matter. Would i buy proton? Maybe. Would I buy other cars? Maybe also. Just narrowing your thought on 'oh, proton will never improve', makes no wonder that Malaysia will not move forward. Rather than blindly bashing, helps improve by providing good criticism and feedback through proper channel. That isn't so hard. 25 years still cannot improve? How many more years Proton need? 50 or 100 years more? How to have faith?  |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Apr 18 2012, 06:42 AM) nope.jpg, just a bunch of jerks who didnt gave the same amount of chance to certain car manufacturer, condemning everything blindly with utmost forces of unrelenting hatred to the name proton, and ferociously defending other car manufacturers with hypocritical thought and relentless respect. Have faith. That's matter. Would i buy proton? Maybe. Would I buy other cars? Maybe also. Just narrowing your thought on 'oh, proton will never improve', makes no wonder that Malaysia will not move forward. Rather than blindly bashing, helps improve by providing good criticism and feedback through proper channel. That isn't so hard. I think it's because a lot of people have been actually affected by the poor manufacturing quality of protons.I don't own one but my gf and friends own protons and I don't have enough space to list down the problems that they have with their cars. Namely power window, central locking, air-con vents (Waja), Door handles, etc. etc. etc. My vios that is older than their cars do not encounter any of these problems at all. So do you think that they are condemning blindly or just that they have no faith to this manufacturer due to past issues and statements by the MD saying things like "don't blame proton coz they make 700 cars in a day"? Edit: And photos of the indicator panel falling in on their display cars doesn't really help to improve their image too. This post has been edited by mrg220t: Apr 18 2012, 08:47 PM |
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QUOTE(asyraff88kmp @ Apr 18 2012, 08:42 PM) nope.jpg, just a bunch of jerks who didnt gave the same amount of chance to certain car manufacturer, condemning everything blindly with utmost forces of unrelenting hatred to the name proton, and ferociously defending other car manufacturers with hypocritical thought and relentless respect. Have faith. That's matter. Would i buy proton? Maybe. Would I buy other cars? Maybe also. Just narrowing your thought on 'oh, proton will never improve', makes no wonder that Malaysia will not move forward. Rather than blindly bashing, helps improve by providing good criticism and feedback through proper channel. That isn't so hard. gov can make the first move. force every minister to drive national cars only, especially proton. |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:50 PM
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proton fanboys reply
- what u expect it's below 100k - photoshop!! - u blind basher give chance to proton, it has only been established for a short time of 25 years |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 08:50 PM) proton fanboys reply brah, good one there, i wonder how many years potong need to achive "global standard" ? - what u expect it's below 100k - photoshop!! - u blind basher give chance to proton, it has only been established for a short time of 25 years Added on April 18, 2012, 8:54 pm QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 08:50 PM) proton fanboys reply brah, good one there, i wonder how many years potong need to achive "global standard" ? - what u expect it's below 100k - photoshop!! - u blind basher give chance to proton, it has only been established for a short time of 25 years This post has been edited by Alphaproject: Apr 18 2012, 08:54 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 09:50 PM) proton fanboys reply sarcasm detected ....... trit trittt....- what u expect it's below 100k - photoshop!! - u blind basher give chance to proton, it has only been established for a short time of 25 years |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Apr 18 2012, 07:57 PM) in the end... preve can tapow inspira wei.... INSPIRA > EVERYTHING ELSE. |
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Apr 18 2012, 08:58 PM
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You think the Tuns, Tan Sri and Datuks in Malaysia are Proton fanboys?
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Apr 18 2012, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Apr 18 2012, 06:58 AM) You think the Tuns, Tan Sri and Datuks in Malaysia are Proton fanboys? Hehehe. Only those people who still stick to "supremacy" teaching will be Proton fanboys lar. Nothing much for them to be proud of mar, so be proud of this lousy company lor. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:01 PM
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Proton gonna give it out FREE
*men...malaysian want everything free, mahu cheap, mahu green, mahu dua liap lin |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:02 PM
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okay lar tu..takpaaaaalahhhh |
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM) as a quality engineer, this weld is acceptable. why waste money doing full weld when u can just tack weld and get the strength needed? Visual ni fail bro. door frame is not structurally integral to the car so it not critical and that weld is probably stronger than the base metal surrounding it. I'd love to see the welding on other more expensive cars. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:04 PM
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Very simple, those who keep bashing proton, what car u drive? Those who support proton..what car u drive?
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Apr 18 2012, 09:05 PM
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which parts is that? expose or under rubber ?
n the most important thing. how the rigidity on those part, sometime its look ugly but it do the job in metal joining or rigidity This post has been edited by Revamperz: Apr 18 2012, 09:07 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM) as a quality engineer, this weld is acceptable. why waste money doing full weld when u can just tack weld and get the strength needed? door frame is not structurally integral to the car so it not critical and that weld is probably stronger than the base metal surrounding it. I'd love to see the welding on other more expensive cars.  |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:06 PM
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is this for reallllllll?
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Apr 18 2012, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(quikstep @ Apr 18 2012, 06:08 PM) wow... looks like hand welded by indonesian Dont play play with indon welder man, some of them are fukking good. Their welding looks like they were done by robots. I kid u not. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:07 PM
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i alrd proton 18 years!
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Apr 18 2012, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Apr 18 2012, 06:13 PM) as a quality engineer, this weld is acceptable. why waste money doing full weld when u can just tack weld and get the strength needed? unless it is not visible .. it is an ugly jointdoor frame is not structurally integral to the car so it not critical and that weld is probably stronger than the base metal surrounding it. I'd love to see the welding on other more expensive cars. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Apr 18 2012, 09:00 PM) Hehehe. Only those people who still stick to "supremacy" teaching will be Proton fanboys lar. Nothing much for them to be proud of mar, so be proud of this lousy company lor. That is the thing you know you are stepped on like a mat by politicians in this country and yet you encourage it?I think it is a bit rich to say that people bash proton in this country with no basis. Have you ever spent your hard earn cash to buy your own car to be plague with problems and selling it at a big loss? How would you feel? However, I do give credit to the current MD of Proton for trying his best to improve Proton by putting the best accessories in the car, striving for quality improvements etc. Putting emotions aside, the picture of the welding when viewed OBJECTIVELY do you think it is acceptable if it is sold overseas? |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:09 PM
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this is good welding
 this shit |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Apr 18 2012, 07:08 AM) That is the thing you know you are stepped on like a mat by politicians in this country and yet you encourage it? Why you quote me lar....... you understand what i'm trying to say bo?I think it is a bit rich to say that people bash proton in this country with no basis. Have you ever spent your hard earn cash to buy your own car to be plague with problems and selling it at a big loss? How would you feel? However, I do give credit to the current MD of Proton for trying his best to improve Proton by putting the best accessories in the car, striving for quality improvements etc. Putting emotions aside, the picture of the welding when viewed OBJECTIVELY do you think it is acceptable if it is sold overseas? |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:31 PM) blurr la. sohai phone take sohai pic but if u insist  |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:11 PM
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no wonder when accident happen become tin milo la...
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Apr 18 2012, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Apr 18 2012, 09:10 PM) Why you quote me lar....... you understand what i'm trying to say bo? I know what you are saying. When I used the word you, I was not refering to you. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:12 PM
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Hard earn money wont give u best of the world...face it...its reality...
You only can choose the best where u can afford... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:12 PM
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Apr 18 2012, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(junky_man @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) Proton penipu scammer! |
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looks like kereta potong
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Apr 18 2012, 09:15 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « izit rust there? |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:17 PM
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no need say much. Picture says a thousand word. The welding quality is horrible to end user. it is not acceptable.
Please use metal grinding & grind it before roll out for paint job. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Apr 18 2012, 09:12 PM) But the standard of welding is like shit no? This one they give for dealer.I think the dealer will return this unit back since the welding work is bad |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:19 PM
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You guys criticizing Proton knows how hard is it to make a car or not? If donno then don't simply criticize lar. If you can, make a better car lar? Cannot right? Then keep quiet lar.
Why dowan to support Malaysian company? Why so not patriotic? Go support foreign companies for what? They profit got give you meh? |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:20 PM
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even if it holds, mcm lah xboleh nk buat cantik sikit..kang elok sikit customer tengok. sommore highly anticipated. bash ! but i drive proton |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:21 PM
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LUL LULUS
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QUOTE(mrg220t @ Apr 18 2012, 10:19 PM) You guys criticizing Proton knows how hard is it to make a car or not? If donno then don't simply criticize lar. If you can, make a better car lar? Cannot right? Then keep quiet lar. cool down bro..it's not like that..i think most of us here do hope proton does well. however, bad pics keep coming out..so they kecewaWhy dowan to support Malaysian company? Why so not patriotic? Go support foreign companies for what? They profit got give you meh? why not support malaysian company? coz they chopped their customer's head. look at their warranty service plan cost. mhl izzit? shouldn't it be more reasonable price..labour..spare parts i have no dog in the fight..that's only my 2cent lor |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:28 PM
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its funny how ppl just like to bash proton,seriously i've already buy 4 cars and i never check for wielding part at my car door...
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Apr 18 2012, 09:09 PM) this is good welding And....we're comparing different kind of weldings now? Lol.this shit Fair point about the shody job though. Proton shoudl've known that everyone would be their judge, jury and executioner. Should've been more careful |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:28 PM) its funny how ppl just like to bash proton,seriously i've already buy 4 cars and i never check for wielding part at my car door... paying the money does not deserve to have that welding u know... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 09:29 PM) paying the money does not deserve to have that welding u know... meh,its already mention above its for safety,and i don't really care about wielding like crap,its not like the wielding part is at steering where we see everyday... |
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QUOTE(marquis @ Apr 18 2012, 09:28 PM) And....we're comparing different kind of weldings now? Lol. yup, Proton should have know. this was going to be the best. the company’s first global car! The one car that was going to change Rakyat perception of potong!Fair point about the shody job though. Proton shoudl've known that everyone would be their judge, jury and executioner. Should've been more careful .... and the Rakyat gets this, for all the millions of ringgit that have spent! |
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:32 PM) meh,its already mention above its for safety,and i don't really care about wielding like crap,its not like the wielding part is at steering where we see everyday... opps..sorry..car is not for safety one...car is for vroomm vroomm and get ah moi only..so welding must nice.. |
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Encik Nizam akan menghantar sms kepada anda...sila tunggu
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Apr 18 2012, 09:42 PM
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Apr 18 2012, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 09:36 PM) opps..sorry..car is not for safety one... later u get hairy tits ahmoi dun regret lol car is for vroomm vroomm and get ah moi only..so welding must nice.. |
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   Spot welding kthxbai http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techart...t/photo_17.html This post has been edited by heavenly91: Apr 18 2012, 09:44 PM |
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Spot welding is one thing, but after 25 years, proton still cant spot weld it any better ah?
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:42 AM) later u get hairy tits ahmoi dun regret lol hairy tits ahmoi still got tits wan mar. hair can shave or pluck wan. |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:43 PM) Spot welding kthxbai  |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:42 PM) later u get hairy tits ahmoi dun regret lol no meh? correct mah..car is to show off one... so it must looks nice... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 09:44 PM) no meh? correct mah.. so ur saying right now u wan show off ur door wielding to pipul?outside already nice what meh car is to show off one... so it must looks nice... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:47 PM) so ur saying right now u wan show off ur door wielding to pipul?outside already nice what meh aiks... u dont understand what im implying here... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:52 PM
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this is on a RM132K car, can almost buy 2 preve already...
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Apr 18 2012, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 09:48 PM) aiks... i noe what u mean bro,but its proton,we all know what quality with this price,if they sell at 90k with this quality i rage also meh... u dont understand what im implying here... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM
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this is on a toyota altis.
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Apr 18 2012, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:53 PM) i noe what u mean bro,but its proton,we all know what quality with this price,if they sell at 90k with this quality i rage also meh... /inb4 tax issues again... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(matnur_83 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM) this is on a toyota altis. i need rage liao... |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(matnur_83 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM) this is on a toyota altis. what is this i don't even...can explain what im looking at? |
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Apr 18 2012, 09:58 PM
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even prety ahmoi when u look close, sure u can c some imperfection...
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Apr 18 2012, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(danabu @ Apr 18 2012, 09:58 PM) even prety ahmoi when u look close, sure u can c some imperfection... Wow proton should hire you |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:00 PM
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my company fabricates machinery and we do spot welds when full welds r not required (becoz full weld costs a lot more material, man hours and more skills to make it look goodl )
but generally we always minimize spot welding on exterior surfaces (especially those at eye level after installation)... it works but seeing spots here and there looks shitty... sometimes we spot weld from the inside.... IMO... proton could have spot welded the door and hide it behind the rubber |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:01 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5XcAf-Psd8...player_embedded
bugatti veyron also got welding. check out 25:04, 26:09 & 33:12 |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:05 PM
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comparing bugatti veyron with proton
bugatti exp car,less ppl buy,can make all perfect liao. proton cheap car,alot ppl buy,no time wan makeup lol.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:05 PM) comparing bugatti veyron with proton proton need to make up...bugatti exp car,less ppl buy,can make all perfect liao. proton cheap car,alot ppl buy,no time wan makeup lol.. 65K is very big yo~ |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 10:00 PM) Wow proton should hire you Aiya... u din c meh.. got ppl pose RM132k car photo and T oltis photo... that why i say lo....for me, the welding is cosmetics failure. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:06 PM
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Biasala bro. First day in Malaysia ka?
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Apr 18 2012, 10:07 PM
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"Please do not put the blame on Proton, Proton makes 700 cars per day, that's 1 car every 98 seconds, we do not have the time to check on Proton parts."
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Apr 18 2012, 10:11 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  RM180K car... erm... can buy 2 preve n a kancil? edited... red circle is not welding.. juz epoxy preve pwns 180k car This post has been edited by seather: Apr 18 2012, 10:17 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:12 PM
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you want perfection buy proton preve sapphire lol...
but i guess that door wielding part is still the same... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:12 PM
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ericmaxman name gonna appear in newspaper again
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Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:11 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « RM180K car... erm... can buy 2 preve n a kancil? red circle is the welding.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:11 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « RM180K car... erm... can buy 2 preve n a kancil? red circle is the welding.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Apr 18 2012, 06:16 PM) i am impress with their replies |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:11 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « RM180K car... erm... can buy 2 preve n a kancil? red circle is the welding.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Dennos @ Apr 18 2012, 10:13 PM) that is epoxy. really  OMG.. preve pwns 180k car... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:16 PM
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stop stop stop this......  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Apr 18 2012, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM) so its true that car quality depends on price lol 180K > 65K |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM) really ya, its all over ur car, just to cover the connection. THe accident-ed car will have missing epoxy. But proton should apply epoxy to blind the free lance QC inspector in LYN OMG.. preve pwns 180k car... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:19 PM
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Living up to the standard...POTONG ma...
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Apr 18 2012, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 10:16 PM) 180K > 65K bro minus the 300% tax u pay ur 180k car would be around the same price as our substandard proton.... my question being if others can produce such good cars with such little cost why cant we??? |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(viknela @ Apr 18 2012, 10:19 PM) bro minus the 300% tax u pay ur 180k car would be around the same price as our substandard proton.... my question being if others can produce such good cars with such little cost why cant we??? u forget to minus proton tax as well then compare again.... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:20 PM
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actually i am curious... most ppl here say it fail becoz of cosmetic reasons or car safety?
if safety, we can always refer to the side impact test results... unless we can get an objective opinion from an experienced car engineer... if cosmetic, well... tutup mata lar.. 65k... u expect nice nice welding meh |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(ohnowhyme @ Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM) i am impress with their replies QUOTE Very simple mah... If this welding joint is acceptable for you, then this Preve is ok for you loh... But I am a bit worried small cockroach can go in to build their house there.. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Dennos @ Apr 18 2012, 10:18 PM) ya, its all over ur car, just to cover the connection. THe accident-ed car will have missing epoxy. But proton should apply epoxy to blind the free lance QC inspector in LYN yeap agree... Msian's r eagle eyed QC inspectors.. i went to look around again.. can't find any welding... look again 2moro morning when it is bright.... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:23 PM) yeap agree... make sure have some photo... XD Msian's r eagle eyed QC inspectors.. i went to look around again.. can't find any welding... look again 2moro morning when it is bright.... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:15 PM) so its true that car quality depends on price lol you don't say.jpg |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:23 PM) yeap agree... most of the car use epoxy + screws. u cant really find welding on ur fender or thin metal sheet. Msian's r eagle eyed QC inspectors.. i went to look around again.. can't find any welding... look again 2moro morning when it is bright.... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(viknela @ Apr 18 2012, 10:19 PM) bro minus the 300% tax u pay ur 180k car would be around the same price as our substandard proton.... my question being if others can produce such good cars with such little cost why cant we??? imma juz gonna leave this here http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:25 PM
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so inspira still better than >>> all?
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Apr 18 2012, 10:36 PM
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Apr 18 2012, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(matnur_83 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM) this is on a toyota altis. Must be made locally. Even brooks brothers making their shirts here getting shitstorm fr mat sallehs on the quality. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:25 PM) /inb4 songlap company... |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Apr 18 2012, 09:09 PM) this is good welding and what do you know about welding ???this shit there a reason why not to weld the whole thing you simply simply say shit welding but i doubt you cant even know how to weld |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(katsumoto2011 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:40 PM) and what do you know about welding ??? Welding not easy yothere a reason why not to weld the whole thing you simply simply say shit welding but i doubt you cant even know how to weld Last time I do it for my laboratory my hand keep shaking. Crazy. But Proton use machine. And I remember the textbook got say for beautiful outlook USUALLY manufacturer will HIDE the ugly weld. Looks like Proton don't give a shit |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(katsumoto2011 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:40 PM) and what do you know about welding ??? QUOTE(Monkey King @ Apr 18 2012, 09:01 PM)there a reason why not to weld the whole thing you simply simply say shit welding but i doubt you cant even know how to weld QUOTE i am not basher nor supporter, i've been working in 1 of the reputable local assembly plant for Japanese vehicle before. judging from the photo, i may conclude 1. yes it is spot weld, nothing wrong with that. 2. the quality of spot weld is not acceptable by JIS body shop standard (pre assemble the metal part before send for paintworks) 3. 1 of the photo clearly shown misalignment of the 2 panels, should the panels involve mechanical movement, ie window glass railings, this may distort the movement thus case premature power-window issues. 4. the poor welding finishing may cause water ingression and develop rust in future (as you can see on top right photo, there might already be some rust mark there) Just my 2 cents. Hope that proton can improve in this This post has been edited by FrostLance: Apr 18 2012, 10:46 PM |
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QUOTE(matnur_83 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM) this is on a toyota altis. this is failure of the ED coating. Electro deposition for corrosion protection. Can happen if the company that supply them the ED coat did not do their homework properly. no use blaming Toyota. I have seen a local assembled BMW rusting completely from a failed ED coat. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:31 PM) blurr la. 1st picture = welding passsohai phone take sohai pic but if u insist 2nd picture = welding fail and also QC fail , i cant believe proton QC will release the car like this 3nd picture = welding pass (2nd grade) , welding location abit low and temperature too high 4th picture = welding fail send back for repair , that why you see 2 time welding on the same place. |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:47 PM
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so conclusion is... dont buy first batch...
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Apr 18 2012, 10:48 PM
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weld is good, it's tact weld, but the only fail side is finishing .. supposely make it more nice by grinding..
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Apr 18 2012, 10:49 PM
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macam letak UHU glue jer.
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Apr 18 2012, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 18 2012, 10:49 PM) macam letak UHU glue jer. lol,jgn mcm ni bro,ambe da book preve |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:51 PM
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How come like that !
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Apr 18 2012, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 10:47 PM) so conclusion is... dont buy first batch... first batch onot its still the same |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:51 PM) first batch onot its still the same or get vios/city and butthurt to pay more but less features... |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 10:52 PM) or get vios/city and butthurt to pay more but less features... Ppl pay because of reliability |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 10:52 PM) or get vios/city and butthurt to pay more but less features... in conclusion, same as b4.... buying proton is like buying lottery... some ppl's one will break down after exiting the sales room.... some ppl's one will run for 10 years wif no problem and swear that some of us r juz proton bashers... disclaimer: drove a mitsubishi engine waja for 5 years... only problem is power window... the rest ran like a bouse |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 10:55 PM) Ppl pay because of brand correction.This post has been edited by cypher: Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 10:55 PM) Ppl pay because of reliability  |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Apr 18 2012, 09:09 PM) this is good welding compare la car wielding bro.... compared dengan wielding binaan/bangunan x acithis shit |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:58 PM
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can post to proton holding FB page mah
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Apr 18 2012, 10:59 PM
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is that karat ?? |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:59 PM
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woi ! dun bash my proton
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Apr 18 2012, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM) in conclusion, same as b4.... buying proton is like buying lottery... some ppl's one will break down after exiting the sales room.... some ppl's one will run for 10 years wif no problem and swear that some of us r juz proton bashers... sometimes is just the owner problem... disclaimer: drove a mitsubishi engine waja for 5 years... only problem is power window... the rest ran like a bouse proton -> cheap -> rough use and no take care -> blame proton no quality... others -> expansive -> use with care -> worship until duno where... |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 10:57 PM) correction. That also, even in Germany people pay ten thousand more for brand |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 11:00 PM) That also, even in Germany people pay ten thousand more for brand here will complain tax and cause them need to buy expansive car... |
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go clarify it with the showroom agent/manager or whoever is there. it's a showroom car for test drive. what for give the final production quality to be there.
then if u wan to buy, tell them don wan your car like this. then when u got your actual car, go n inspect everything, after that sign off and hold your peace. open the dashboard if you have to. as if other brand cars from japang or german don't have cheap fix like this. if it's working, then it works. |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 11:01 PM) here will complain tax and cause them need to buy expansive car... Our tax is very high u can't deny that |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 11:10 PM) Our tax is very high u can't deny that but if remove all the tax and everything...proton still cheaper... |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:12 PM
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Use this?
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Apr 18 2012, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 11:12 PM) but if remove all the tax and everything...proton still cheaper... Dirt cheap u mean, of course such basic spec cars will be cheap |
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 11:12 PM) but if remove all the tax and everything...proton still cheaper... of course lah, ppl still have to pay to transport the car over here mah.but the different will be smaller. anyway, if safety is ok, at least they make it looks better a bit lah. |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:18 PM
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kereta protong tats y potong potong here anmd there and sambung balik
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Apr 18 2012, 10:58 PM) compare la car wielding bro.... compared dengan wielding binaan/bangunan x aci i know its different kind of welding, i know i didnt know how to weld but i did learn it before this and do my own weld.- if want to use spot welding, at least make the finishing is good, not like that picture look already rust and not even or center between the metal joint, how the hell it passed the QC? - dont care about the welding 1st, let see the metal joint, not even align properly, how this pass QC ? - that joint is very easy to see, why not use different kind of welding, like the full welding, or just use spot weld but with fully closed the space around that area. at least it look proper, and no hole or space, nothing will enter into that like water making the metal inside rusting. im not proton basher, i just say that proton should do based on wat they want to proof about especially the quality. |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:31 PM
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got genius said the photos are from a pre-production car..
interesting how i managed to spot a pre-production car |
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http://chedet.cc/blog/?p=686
QUOTE 5. The other day I test drove their latest model on the test track at Shah Alam. I can verify and assure Proton customers and Malaysians generally that this new model can match any of the Japanese or European quality cars. It was such a pleasure to drive. A foreign friend who knows cars, tested the car and says it is up to the standard of the up-market cars from Europe. Hot metal mang. Don't play play. Bu yau kai wan siao.6. This car uses hot press steel body which is stronger than cold press. It has a 1.6 liter turbocharged engine equal to a 2.0 liter engine power. The engine complies with Euro-five standards. 13. I believe this is a great car and Proton can be proud of it. Malaysians can be proud of it too. The extra Ringgit you have to spend will be worth it. This post has been edited by <Ultraman>: Apr 18 2012, 11:47 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:48 PM
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PROVED the pic is real....just now i go showroom check it out and i point to my friend and got few other stranger join me see the epic joint. Guess it will spread like wildfire soon..haha
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Apr 18 2012, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 18 2012, 11:47 PM) Don't post cipet blog here |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 18 2012, 11:49 PM) Don't post cipet blog here It's always nice to hear people talk big and the result comes out differently. |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(dude1218 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:48 PM) PROVED the pic is real....just now i go showroom check it out and i point to my friend and got few other stranger join me see the epic joint. Guess it will spread like wildfire soon..haha See it to believe it |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 11:51 PM) See it to believe it  i believe |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Apr 18 2012, 11:54 PM) i believe not inspilala clone |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:55 PM
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Maybe its an engineering concept. When got accident those two metal will seperate and all the impact of the accident will flow from the end of the metal.
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Apr 18 2012, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. part of a door, how does this relate to proton? any more pictures? if somebody replace the word preve with the work bmw, is it still the same thing? This post has been edited by ante5k: Apr 18 2012, 11:57 PM |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 18 2012, 11:55 PM) Maybe its an engineering concept. When got accident those two metal will seperate and all the impact of the accident will flow from the end of the metal. and hit a pedestrianlater become wacko jacko  |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(ante5k @ Apr 18 2012, 11:57 PM) pardon me, i see chair? car inside the office? its called a SHOWROOM.part of a door, how does this relate to proton? any more pictures? PROTON makes the door. I'll try capture MOAR pics if and when i got the time. |
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Apr 18 2012, 11:59 PM
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sure ka like that
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Apr 18 2012, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(ante5k @ Apr 18 2012, 11:57 PM) pardon me, i see chair? car inside the office? u mean this?part of a door, how does this relate to proton? any more pictures? if somebody replace the word preve with the work bmw, is it still the same thing? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 11:58 PM) its called a SHOWROOM. alright, thank you.PROTON makes the door. I'll try capture MOAR pics if and when i got the time. Looking forward to more of your pictures, good job . |
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Apr 19 2012, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 11:59 PM) u mean this? saga not human drive » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 19 2012, 12:01 AM
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Apr 19 2012, 12:01 AM
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TS, please post more picture. we got many ignorance people here
i mean, did they know we got showroom that have chair inside, not only in the office? |
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Apr 19 2012, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Apr 19 2012, 12:01 AM) TS, please post more picture. we got many ignorance people here for /k/, i shalli mean, did they know we got showroom that have chair inside, not only in the office? |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(MrSafe @ Apr 19 2012, 01:05 AM) they try to make everything perfect.....but still left out something which is visible to eyes thats not major thing,but on some cases,i can see the joint are not well-alligned that can pose future problem like rust build-upoverall ,its an eyesore i hope they can rectify that at least in coming month  |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(MrSafe @ Apr 19 2012, 01:05 AM) they try to make everything perfect.....but still left out something which is visible to eyes they so confident boasting and . now is |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:30 AM
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Other brand car also got this too...
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Apr 19 2012, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Apr 18 2012, 08:31 PM) let me compare proton pervert quality 2 tis benz wah perfection |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:40 AM
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at the end of the day, ramai jugak yg akan dan dah beli proton instead of bmw dan lain2. biasalah tuh. hehe
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Apr 19 2012, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE(ck_boon @ Apr 19 2012, 01:39 AM) wah perfection i only like its door, the face design look kinda ugly, the benz logo too large |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:41 AM
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tak suka jangan beli lar
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Apr 19 2012, 01:46 AM
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i've seen that picture everywhere on the web way before preve.
nice try ts |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(souless223 @ Apr 19 2012, 01:46 AM) i've seen that picture everywhere on the web way before preve. yeah right...nice try troll.nice try ts |
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Apr 19 2012, 01:53 AM
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According to insider news, they have clarified that the picture was a pre-production car. They admitted they had problems with the panel but it has been rectified before the launch. Basically, this picture is not of the test drive car! #newpreve #MalaysianDrivers
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=249...7&type=1&ref=nf |
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Apr 19 2012, 02:00 AM
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the reason is simple why malaysian got high hope in proton
cause they ad forced us to buy a car that not match with the price a.k.a stealing our hard earn blood money also proton is a best accuse for government to put high tax on foreign car so in the end, a car is not consider affordable for Malaysian buying foreign car =/= not patriot to country the market is open we r not communist country for the fan boy, i not sure if u guys is troller or hired by proton or watever the fact is there.. proton is hard to change as long as GLC even it sold .. the new owner got a very good connection to " " so i doubt he is the "real" owner , so he might not have the power to make decision end of story |
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Apr 19 2012, 01:53 AM) According to insider news, they have clarified that the picture was a pre-production car. They admitted they had problems with the panel but it has been rectified before the launch. Basically, this picture is not of the test drive car! #newpreve #MalaysianDrivers yeah right nice try there. How much potong pay u to post this?https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=249...7&type=1&ref=nf |
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Apr 19 2012, 02:08 AM
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this is like bijan putted the brick correctly to build a wall
leader like that its people also like that |
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Apr 19 2012, 02:10 AM
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ah tuck half cut
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Apr 19 2012, 02:22 AM
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hmm didnt know we have a lot of engineers and experts in lyn. (for those that do not understand this is sarcasm)
i'm no fanboi, but bashing like this is unfair. Would be better if there's actual test done or any citation saying this weld would effect the integrity of the car. (Such as part of the door flying out when driving 120kmh) in my understanding the door is one of the crumple zone refer this diagram  http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/images/ph_forces08.gifthe blue lines are the chassis; now the integrity of the car depend on this. IF a kapcai can damage the chassis (blue line) than by all means please bash. btw Some people can afford imported cars some people cant. What matters is how you drive. |
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Apr 19 2012, 02:56 AM
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ktards tok kok only lar berlagak tahu macam pandai
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Apr 19 2012, 06:44 AM
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is not the crumple zone, it is the work standard and quality rendered!
potong phail is phail! Dun blame the floor for being not flat! Kalau Tak Tahu Menari, Jangan Salahkan Lantai Berjongkang Jongkit! This post has been edited by DarkNite: Apr 19 2012, 06:46 AM |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 11:58 PM) its called a SHOWROOM. LOL epic respond ....PROTON makes the door. I'll try capture MOAR pics if and when i got the time. |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:11 AM
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im gonna check back again today even though i already book the car
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Apr 19 2012, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(espressomelt @ Apr 19 2012, 02:56 AM) ktards tok kok only lar berlagak tahu macam pandai +99999999 |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:19 AM
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stupid people will believe the actual customer units will have the same weldings...
look at the responses in this thread will confirm that NONE of the owners of other Proton models experience this kind of 'quality' and yet others still want to comment like they are the QC or salesmen of Proton competitors... |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:29 AM
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They are the ones gonna risk their lives with poor welding....
... in b4 that sample is showroom car. |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 19 2012, 08:29 AM) They are the ones gonna risk their lives with poor welding.... 70% I am going to get this ... in b4 that sample is showroom car. |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(kirkster_z @ Apr 19 2012, 01:40 AM) at the end of the day, ramai jugak yg akan dan dah beli proton instead of bmw dan lain2. biasalah tuh. hehe apa kebodohan ini, you think ppl buy proton cos of choice?. if proton didn't have all the government protection nobody would buy it. |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 19 2012, 08:31 AM) apa kebodohan ini, you think ppl buy proton cos of choice?. if proton didn't have all the government protection nobody would buy it. proton will help your poor life.. other brand just for rich man.. |
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Apr 19 2012, 08:43 AM
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wah this thread still going
anyway... back to topic, if it is a safety/quality issue, then we can only trust those independent testing on the side impact, unless u r a qualified car engineer... if it is a cosmetic issue, then ya... proton needs to buck up... it works... but looks ugly |
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Apr 19 2012, 10:17 AM
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cant even get a show car done right.
how can trust be put on P1? |
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Apr 19 2012, 10:19 AM
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its good that ppl are complaining.. later they will correct the ugliness..
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Apr 19 2012, 10:22 AM
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those people who buy proton and bashing on it normally is just butthurt...
they couldnt afford other car and just bashing proton... they think the money they spend is the biggest of the world and can buy them a perfect car... please la..no money buy then work hard for it...dont blame this blame that, things wont change just for you... if buy a proton liao...then proud of it... if only can afford proton...then proud of it also... |
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Apr 19 2012, 10:25 AM
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owning a proton is not really bcos of its quality .. it just the issue of an affordability ........ so .. i think this car can make a good comeback for proton ...
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Apr 19 2012, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(akisendro @ Apr 19 2012, 10:25 AM) owning a proton is not really bcos of its quality .. it just the issue of an affordability ........ so .. i think this car can make a good comeback for proton ... /inb4 tax reply... |
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 19 2012, 08:29 AM) 70% I am going to get this err...O I thot you 100% got liao.If get, suggest you use it for 3 yrs then quickly sells it before metal fatigue sets into the joint. This one looks like real potong punya kereta. If take to puspakom sure say kereta potong if no tell them it is the new Preve. |
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Apr 19 2012, 12:37 PM
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unbelievable. look like the car rolled out of "under the tree" production line...
and what up with that "multimedia compact" word on the player? failed copy paste? QUOTE(ck_boon @ Apr 18 2012, 06:23 PM) this is preve original |
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Apr 19 2012, 12:46 PM
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wat u pay is wat u get. Nuff said.
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Apr 19 2012, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 19 2012, 12:25 PM) err...O I thot you 100% got liao. drop 30% already due to the current bashing.. If get, suggest you use it for 3 yrs then quickly sells it before metal fatigue sets into the joint. This one looks like real potong punya kereta. If take to puspakom sure say kereta potong if no tell them it is the new Preve. |
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Apr 19 2012, 02:23 PM
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Stupid nia waste my time to go see the welding. Size of a pimple only can stretch the picture to the size of a fist.
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Apr 19 2012, 02:36 PM
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fuuu so much hate
anyway haters will hate |
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Apr 19 2012, 03:55 PM
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the welding job is bad compare to forte vios city
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Apr 19 2012, 05:12 PM
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Preve Spot welding
Cheap cap ayam korea car Spot welding » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by FrostLance: Apr 19 2012, 05:17 PM |
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Apr 19 2012, 05:14 PM
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besar lagi tak boleh ke frostlance
monitor 55" aku ni ada banyak space lagi |
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 19 2012, 05:14 PM) besar lagi tak boleh ke frostlance +1 monitor 55" aku ni ada banyak space lagi |
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 19 2012, 05:12 PM) Preve Spot welding Do you know how to compress the photo before upload it?Cheap cap ayam korea car Spot welding » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « If you email this to your client, he will scream and curse you. |
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QUOTE(vexus @ Apr 19 2012, 07:38 PM) Do you know how to compress the photo before upload it? lol..my job has nothing to do with pictars If you email this to your client, he will scream and curse you. Plus, its big so u guys can clearly see the difference of quality in spot welding. This post has been edited by FrostLance: Apr 19 2012, 07:39 PM |
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 19 2012, 05:12 PM) Preve Spot welding korean car wielding better. no lubang & rust.Cheap cap ayam korea car Spot welding » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 19 2012, 07:38 PM) lol..my job has nothing to do with pictars tu besar sgtlah gile.Plus, its big so u guys can clearly see the difference of quality in spot welding. |
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 19 2012, 05:12 PM) Preve Spot welding cheepet frost, u think every one use U2711 ultra sharp dell meh? Cheap cap ayam korea car Spot welding » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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I've driven a second hand proton wira for 15 years now and it's really reliable. The only real problem I've had with it was the power window of course. I cant really complain about it since it's a 17 year old car and I dont really have the money to buy anything else so this proton car is good to me.
I've mentioned this to other people and they look at me in disgust, citing their own bad experience with using a Proton. I take it that a person's preference of proton lies in the extremes; either you love it or you dont, there's no middle ground. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 19 2012, 09:54 PM) cheepet frost, u think every one use U2711 ultra sharp dell meh? even my 20" cant view |
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Apr 19 2012, 10:02 PM
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Even my Ipong can load
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Apr 19 2012, 10:30 PM
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tak semudah itu aku nak percaya - bukan owner kereta proton
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Apr 19 2012, 10:36 PM
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Dafuq. My 20 years old Bmx bike (not even rm200) got better wielding than this. This shit looks like ter gigit anjing. If it's not a new car prolly i'll think tats 1 kereta potong (half cut car).
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Apr 19 2012, 10:37 PM
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Malaysia BOLEH! Plotong BOLEH!
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Apr 19 2012, 10:39 PM
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QC pailed
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QUOTE(redhatlinux @ Apr 19 2012, 10:39 PM) QC pailed Proton FAIL!Dulu, kini dan selamanya! |
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wah!i think tin milo also have better welding point
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Apr 20 2012, 07:12 AM
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belum release pun sudah fail how?
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QUOTE(ladyvelvet101 @ Apr 19 2012, 02:22 AM) hmm didnt know we have a lot of engineers and experts in lyn. (for those that do not understand this is sarcasm) so how is your post related to poor welding point that even a 10 years old kid can do better?i'm no fanboi, but bashing like this is unfair. Would be better if there's actual test done or any citation saying this weld would effect the integrity of the car. (Such as part of the door flying out when driving 120kmh) in my understanding the door is one of the crumple zone refer this diagram http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/images/ph_forces08.gifthe blue lines are the chassis; now the integrity of the car depend on this. IF a kapcai can damage the chassis (blue line) than by all means please bash. btw Some people can afford imported cars some people cant. What matters is how you drive. |
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Apr 20 2012, 08:28 AM
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zz i just went back to see the wielding part,its damn small yo,the picture look so big wan....
its not a big deal~toyota basher butthurt!! |
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 20 2012, 08:28 AM) zz i just went back to see the wielding part,its damn small yo,the picture look so big wan.... Ya.. it's not a big deal. But why are you defending something that's not a big deal ? its not a big deal~toyota basher butthurt!! |
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 20 2012, 08:28 AM) zz i just went back to see the wielding part,its damn small yo,the picture look so big wan.... so proven it is real. good job proton. its not a big deal~toyota basher butthurt!! |
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Walaoweh~ dis tered survive till 18pages for only one small things..
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 20 2012, 09:54 AM) Ya.. it's not a big deal. But why are you defending something that's not a big deal ? coz i already book 1 |
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 20 2012, 10:06 AM) coz i already book 1 good luck man... |
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potong biasa macam ni
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Apr 20 2012, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 20 2012, 10:06 AM) coz i already book 1 kesian |
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Apr 20 2012, 10:20 AM
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Kesian protong better luck next launch. Msian QC memang hebat
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nobody go check the new VW polo welding meh? RM99k car wor
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QUOTE(Silenced @ Apr 20 2012, 07:15 AM) so how is your post related to poor welding point that even a 10 years old kid can do better? janganlah 10 year old i waz 12 years old only baru learn how to solder led to a circuit board. u rephrase ur sentence to 13 year old b4 i butthurt |
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Apr 20 2012, 11:22 PM
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Apr 21 2012, 10:34 AM
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 preve even test drive also fail |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:36 AM
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Damn... Already confirmed accident but yet, still lotsa new poster here.. still kenot accept the fact and said QC proble.. pls read the fact lah
Preve is a superb car.. |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 21 2012, 10:36 AM) Damn... Already confirmed accident but yet, still lotsa new poster here.. still kenot accept the fact and said QC proble.. pls read the fact lah That is accident, QC problem is different.Preve is a superb car.. kamon la, cheap Korean car can have better welding, i dont see why plotong cannot do the same |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:40 AM
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List of the bravest Proton Supporters (1st batch PreBook-ers)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. FenomX | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 2. deepan84 | Solid White | CFE CVT 3. marquis | Tranquility Black | CFE CVT 4. viperz982 | Solid White | CFE CVT 5. eistern | dunno yet | CFE CVT 6. 37867 | Fire red | cfe cvt 7. Valence | elegant brown | cfe cvt 8. Razkan | genetic silver | CFE CVT 9. ahaks75 | Tranquility black | cfe cvt 10. freaz | Fire Red | CFE CVT 11. Area51SE l Fire Red or Genetic Silver l CFE CVT 12. FaezFarhan | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 13. Huskarl | elegance brown | cfe cvt 14. Dickong | Solid White | CFE CVT 15. izputra | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 16. Az prevay|solid white| CFE CVT 17. kiapreve| Fire Read| CFE CVT 18. Gigabit | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 19. fit | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 20. ixus | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 21. WhitELighteR | Solid White | CFE CVT 22. K2002 | Silver | CFE CVT 23. Longorita | Solid White | CFE CVT 24. Nailofar | Solid White | CFE CVT 25. apeng8099 | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 26. torres09 | Solid White | CFE CVT 27. my1508 | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 28. Saya_Dhuang | Solid White | CFE CVT 29. ejslayer | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 30. Kucau | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 31. sirnevio | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 32. Nicholasnhc | Fire Red | CFE CVT  |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:40 AM
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Amen.
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Apr 21 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 21 2012, 10:38 AM) That is accident, QC problem is different. That welding let me go & check later... Impossible they bypass the strict QC test.. probably another remote case nia.. But on that accident pic, it's really create a viral pic that QC of proton really bad.. sighkamon la, cheap Korean car can have better welding, i dont see why plotong cannot do the same |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 21 2012, 10:40 AM) That welding let me go & check later... Impossible they bypass the strict QC test.. probably another remote case nia.. But on that accident pic, it's really create a viral pic that QC of proton really bad.. sigh Go ahead and report back If you don't belip me, its okay. BTW, proton is never know with the term "strict QC" QUOTE Quoted from Oriental Daily, "Syed Zainal (賽再納): Please do not blame Proton, Proton produces 700 cars everyday, which is equivalent to 98 seconds per new car. We do not have the time to check/ QC on Proton's spare parts." |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:44 AM
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Really so many proto bashers here... Hidup proton... We support you forever
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Apr 21 2012, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(cypher @ Apr 18 2012, 06:04 PM) LOL...how dare u think /k is so dumb enough to believe this? |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:46 AM
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Apr 21 2012, 10:47 AM
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zero consistency
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Apr 21 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 21 2012, 10:46 AM) |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:49 AM
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anyway proton has just projects a very bad impression even b4 its OTR
no matter wat kind of justification came out from proton there always the scar left behind....proton got no luck...pity |
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Apr 21 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Apr 21 2012, 10:48 AM) That looks much better. Photochop or real? my photochop knowledge is ZERO |
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Apr 21 2012, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 21 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 21 2012, 10:40 AM) List of the bravest Proton Supporters (1st batch PreBook-ers) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. FenomX | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 2. deepan84 | Solid White | CFE CVT 3. marquis | Tranquility Black | CFE CVT 4. viperz982 | Solid White | CFE CVT 5. eistern | dunno yet | CFE CVT 6. 37867 | Fire red | cfe cvt 7. Valence | elegant brown | cfe cvt 8. Razkan | genetic silver | CFE CVT 9. ahaks75 | Tranquility black | cfe cvt 10. freaz | Fire Red | CFE CVT 11. Area51SE l Fire Red or Genetic Silver l CFE CVT 12. FaezFarhan | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 13. Huskarl | elegance brown | cfe cvt 14. Dickong | Solid White | CFE CVT 15. izputra | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 16. Az prevay|solid white| CFE CVT 17. kiapreve| Fire Read| CFE CVT 18. Gigabit | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 19. fit | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 20. ixus | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 21. WhitELighteR | Solid White | CFE CVT 22. K2002 | Silver | CFE CVT 23. Longorita | Solid White | CFE CVT 24. Nailofar | Solid White | CFE CVT 25. apeng8099 | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 26. torres09 | Solid White | CFE CVT 27. my1508 | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT Lol novody dare get iafm 28. Saya_Dhuang | Solid White | CFE CVT 29. ejslayer | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 30. Kucau | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT 31. sirnevio | Blue Lagoon | CFE CVT 32. Nicholasnhc | Fire Red | CFE CVT |
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Apr 22 2012, 08:29 AM
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walauwehh so many hate in this thread anyway kudos to early buyers.
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Apr 22 2012, 10:02 AM
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U all when visiting proton show room, spare a minute to look under the car exhaust pipe, u will notice the rod holding the whole exhaust system is rusting already, can b said for all proton cars
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Apr 22 2012, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 21 2012, 10:40 AM) That welding let me go & check later... Impossible they bypass the strict QC test.. probably another remote case nia.. But on that accident pic, it's really create a viral pic that QC of proton really bad.. sigh might as well complain to the salesman, maybe he can pass this problem and get it solved |
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Apr 22 2012, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 21 2012, 10:44 AM) Really so many proto bashers here... Hidup proton... We support you forever can support with cheque book? |
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Apr 22 2012, 10:56 AM
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i think that current car wielding is for test drive purpose only because they know sa gonna wreck that car anyway
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Apr 22 2012, 11:27 AM
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我怕你有毛啊?
I takut you ada bulu ah? |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 18 2012, 06:02 PM) Fail welding is fail. |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Apr 22 2012, 10:03 AM) might as well complain to the salesman, maybe he can pass this problem and get it solved I checked already.. The welding point is actually common.. even Hyundai Sonata also having this welding point. So it's nothing new. Later I upload the photos of both Sonata & Preve welding points.. The only differences.. Sonata more welding metal & workmanship abit better than the rough Preve welding.. Nothing wrong wth it |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 22 2012, 11:40 AM) I checked already.. The welding point is actually common.. even Hyundai Sonata also having this welding point. So it's nothing new. Later I upload the photos of both Sonata & Preve welding points.. The only differences.. Sonata more welding metal & workmanship abit better than the rough Preve welding.. Nothing wrong wth it i really think that current wielding is for test drive car |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 22 2012, 11:42 AM) i really think that current wielding is for test drive car Actually I checked both the showroom car & the test drive car.. The test drive car having better welding almost similar to Sonata but the display unit abit rough & less welding metal..So I think, it's not robotic welding but man-welded job & thus differences between cars are very obvious |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 22 2012, 11:44 AM) Actually I checked both the showroom car & the test drive car.. The test drive car having better welding almost similar to Sonata but the display unit abit rough & less welding metal..So I think, it's not robotic welding but man-welded job & thus differences between cars are very obvious share your drillz later i wan see |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:49 AM
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Me and Stimix when test preve yesterday.....not only welding at door.....it got others bad craftmanship too.
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Apr 22 2012, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 22 2012, 11:49 AM) Me and Stimix when test preve yesterday.....not only welding at door.....it got others bad craftmanship too. can list here? |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:55 AM
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Here. Most cars also having this welding point. So it's not uncommon.. Only the quality of welding diff story.. One better than another.. So when the earlier photos saying Prevelike 1/2 cut job is not true.. other cars also having similar welding ponts :  |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 22 2012, 11:55 AM) Here. Most cars also having this welding point. So it's not uncommon.. Only the quality of welding diff story.. One better than another.. So when the earlier photos saying Prevelike 1/2 cut job is not true.. other cars also having similar welding ponts : i lol at sonata wielding,so big wan |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 22 2012, 11:49 AM) Me and Stimix when test preve yesterday.....not only welding at door.....it got others bad craftmanship too. Well, hv to accept the fact that one is <RM70K or ~ RM30K cars without excise & etc songlxp. cost added in and another is a RM140K car (RM70k without levy/excise) liao .. The level of sound proofing & vibration also so much diff mah.. But OK-lah... comparing wth City & Vios or Elantra...not something higher.. I'm expecting more on Preve earlier.. but well.. fact is fact This post has been edited by stimix: Apr 22 2012, 12:00 PM |
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Apr 22 2012, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 22 2012, 11:57 AM) i lol at sonata wielding,so big wan That's secondary.. But earlier, the whoto of Preve welding point is just to paint an incorrect picture that only Preve having 1/2 cut style welding and no other cars having this welding point This post has been edited by stimix: Apr 22 2012, 12:02 PM |
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Apr 22 2012, 12:01 PM
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stimix u've ever tried test drive mitsu grandis b4?2.4l one...asking only
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Apr 22 2012, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(project68 @ Apr 22 2012, 12:01 PM) stimix u've ever tried test drive mitsu grandis b4?2.4l one...asking only No wor.. My only big cc car that I ever test drove - Nissan Fairlady.. That car also dissapoint me.. Hv to press kaw-kaw only can feel the torque wan and handling also so-so nia |
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Apr 22 2012, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 22 2012, 12:04 PM) No wor.. My only big cc car that I ever test drove - Nissan Fairlady.. That car also dissapoint me.. Hv to press kaw-kaw only can feel the torque wan and handling also so-so nia nvm lor,coz i try compare mitsu grandis and preve,the only diff i can see :1.preve engine noise abit noisy compare to grandis 2.grandis suspension is suprisingly hard compare to preve...maybe becoz design for mpv i guess 3.in term of acceleration,both doesnt have that much different,but grandis more faster la 4.preve steering vibrate a bit 5.preve engine noise is better than grandis 6.interior build grandis straight win,exterior almost the same 8.handling almost the same 175k vs 73k,not bad though for preve This post has been edited by project68: Apr 22 2012, 12:10 PM |
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Apr 22 2012, 02:34 PM
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Preve you try max the Aircon blower .....it cover all the Engine sound....even same loud as my Jet Engine.
haha This post has been edited by RegentCid: Apr 22 2012, 02:34 PM |
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Apr 22 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 22 2012, 11:04 AM) No wor.. My only big cc car that I ever test drove - Nissan Fairlady.. That car also dissapoint me.. Hv to press kaw-kaw only can feel the torque wan and handling also so-so nia unker tak tau drive Sport Car....Sport car mean go Wild...go Extreme...where got ppl step the throttle pedal like sissy. handle just not suitable to you because is real wheel drive. |
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Apr 22 2012, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 22 2012, 02:34 PM) Preve you try max the Aircon blower .....it cover all the Engine sound....even same loud as my Jet Engine. Only RM70K kenot compare to big brother wan lor...hahahaha |
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Apr 22 2012, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 22 2012, 11:55 AM) Here. Most cars also having this welding point. So it's not uncommon.. Only the quality of welding diff story.. One better than another.. So when the earlier photos saying Prevelike 1/2 cut job is not true.. other cars also having similar welding ponts : Lol the joint is normal but if u look closely the sonata's joint got silicon type sealant at the gap and does not show any holes. |
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Apr 22 2012, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 22 2012, 02:34 PM) Preve you try max the Aircon blower .....it cover all the Engine sound....even same loud as my Jet Engine. The engineer must be a fan of jethaha |
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Apr 23 2012, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(Vista-X @ Apr 22 2012, 10:18 PM) Lol the joint is normal but if u look closely the sonata's joint got silicon type sealant at the gap and does not show any holes. Again, it's not about the quality of welding but the fact other cars too hv the welding points. ..Earlier, somewan trying tio paint he fact that only proton using cantum-cantum game |
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May 3 2012, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(Silenced @ Apr 20 2012, 07:15 AM) so how is your post related to poor welding point that even a 10 years old kid can do better? based on the diagram, what i'm trying to say the welding of the door does not affect the structural integrity of the car directly. that is all. btw the door is supposed to crumple when collided. to absorb the shock. |
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May 3 2012, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(ladyvelvet101 @ May 3 2012, 11:12 PM) based on the diagram, what i'm trying to say the welding of the door does not affect the structural integrity of the car directly. so far i don't have any doubt on the integrity of the welding.. but it is ugly.. looks cincai .. they should cover it nicelythat is all. btw the door is supposed to crumple when collided. to absorb the shock. |
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May 3 2012, 11:30 PM
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May 3 2012, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(shinnosuke @ May 3 2012, 11:26 PM) so far i don't have any doubt on the integrity of the welding.. but it is ugly.. looks cincai .. they should cover it nicely owner report they have better welding finish. So, Proton heard the complaint. |
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May 3 2012, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 22 2012, 02:34 PM) Preve you try max the Aircon blower .....it cover all the Engine sound....even same loud as my Jet Engine. Oh, Preve engine is loud? Oklah, cannot consider edi. I fedup when my friends laugh at my BLM noise.haha SImple things like these also cannot solve. Proton, aiii Proton. If want to solve, the car must be RM200k? Can, don;t take money from taxpayers la. Stupid car company. |
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May 3 2012, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(shinnosuke @ May 3 2012, 11:26 PM) so far i don't have any doubt on the integrity of the welding.. but it is ugly.. looks cincai .. they should cover it nicely exactly what im trying to say, not life threatening (this apply to all cars)but yeah appearance wise it is ugly, and its quite obvious compared to other cars that uses the same technique (people never really noticed this with other cars) |
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May 4 2012, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(ladyvelvet101 @ May 3 2012, 11:52 PM) exactly what im trying to say, not life threatening (this apply to all cars) because the other car dun have proton badge but yeah appearance wise it is ugly, and its quite obvious compared to other cars that uses the same technique (people never really noticed this with other cars) |
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May 4 2012, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 4 2012, 12:02 AM) because the other car dun have proton badge exactly. |
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May 4 2012, 08:19 PM
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This is machine welded or hand welded ? ericmanmax ?
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May 4 2012, 08:28 PM
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bangang TS..dah berbuih -buih mulot aku bashing proton kt thread preve apsal nih..
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Aug 16 2012, 06:38 PM
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No eye see perverted crap.
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