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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V22 - Live or Die

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post May 7 2012, 05:05 PM

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Vacumm meter...I found this more understandable.

http://www.international-auto.com/fiat-lan...cuum-gauges.cfm
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post May 8 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 8 2012, 03:57 PM)
That fella face problem la, summore brag his servis cost RM90++ oni.  doh.gif

If you use their semi-syn oil,use Petronas Syntium 800 10w-40, should be around RM120....If you use full-syn, then of course more expensive.
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Booklet for FLX is recommend using 10W30, i wonder what oil SC will put in during service?
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My car now 64k adi, 2years 8 months

I plan for next service on this Saturday (outside)..

I only plan for normal service, which full sycn + oil filter only, maybe will swap 4 tyres position and balancing.

The parts that i yet to replaced (overdue alot according to service manual) now included:

1. Spark plug - 12k service 'paksa' changed by SC, until now.

2. Radiator coolant - 17k service 'paksa' changed by SC, until now. (Last time ever i went for Proton SC, dun like 'paksa' service tongue.gif ) Open and see, no rust nor dirt in the coolant water, still clean and clear.

3. Power steering fluid - new car until now.

4. Brake fluid - new car until now.

5. fuel filter - new car until now.

So for item 1 - 5, is it necessary to change it?

Well, my FC now still as good as new car, power wise din noticed losses, brake still OK, a little bit vibration under braking, what i thought is due to worn brake pad. Power steering feel good.

So what you guys think?
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post May 8 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ May 8 2012, 04:21 PM)
We don't change accordingly, they will stamp at service invoice that we refused to changed it.
SC nak duit lebih saja.  whistling.gif
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No change no warranty ma...they always use same word to threaten customer...so at 17k i give up my warranty lo, they blow me up meh... whistling.gif

Where got so many things need to warranty la...save up for those damn labour cost, later part rosak those save are enuf to cover adi.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ May 8 2012, 04:23 PM)

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Remember wrongly, they paksa me change spark plug @ 17k, NGK...well, just 5k different.

I also know spark plug should be able to withstand at least 40k, but damn booklet said every 20k, WTF...

Fuel filter i ask few outside mechanics adi, they said can tahan 100k one wo... shocking.gif they seems less interested to change for me...but i still feel ok la, no power loss nor bad FC...


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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ May 8 2012, 04:28 PM)
brows.gif Still got warranty since some of those things are consider wear and tear.
But those labour cost really cekik leher one.  shakehead.gif
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if u don want to change according to service manual, no point u go there 'cekik leher' by them, right? icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway, last time i wait so long before given up warranty becos my IAFM start to make noise that time....
I went there ask for warranty, what they said now still minor sound only, later major noise only come change shakehead.gif ...wait wait wait IAFM still refuse to kong, then i decided to let it die as it like...until now still alive... doh.gif

Now after few service, those saved labour cost enuf me to replace a IAFM+ adi if it really die... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ May 8 2012, 04:37 PM)
You spark plugs dah lebih 40k ni  sweat.gif
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Yalo, they said the side effect of aging spark plug is idling vibration and high FC, but i din encounter this...so anyone here use ur spark plug >40k??

Maybe i got influenced by my father la, everything will use until can't use only change...i know service accordingly is good, but moneyflies.gif still can use, why not?

But i won't dare to push timing belt over limit la, this one i can't bare if it broken... ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ May 8 2012, 04:53 PM)
Less then 3 years already >60k

Mine 3 years plus less then 45k pula. tongue.gif
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80k is due soon cry.gif ...timing belt, tensioner, accessories belt, water pump... moneyflies.gif

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ May 8 2012, 05:18 PM)
Same goes to me as well .. I'm hitting 68K soon. Spark plugs haven't change yet ever since the 1st one - same goes to timing belt and the absorber as well. sweat.gif
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what is ur mileage/week? I approx. 450-500km now...

Spark plug if no harm to engine, then i think i will change later, maybe @ 80k sweat.gif ...absorber felt stiffer now, but still OK, not bouncy, so will not change as well...
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 8 2012, 05:47 PM)
Can anybody tell me whether can send my GAGA to any service centre to do tuning? My car engine oil due jor, but no warranty lar, so thinking of let Plotong cekik me RM10 servis cas(provided if they can tunning my ride lar.
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You see outside still got RM10 servis cas for tuning or not... rolleyes.gif
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MY FM
雪隆区FM 101.8

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QUOTE(zeone @ May 9 2012, 08:54 AM)
That's downside of so-updated Hi-Tech engines!!
NO self-meddling!
Car dies in middle of road? Only answer = Call tow truck... sad.gif

ps. Ole skool eg ole Saga/Iswara days yu can juz do this/that & then can happily continue on yr journey! rclxm9.gif


Added on May 9, 2012, 8:57 am
Yup, very true!
Took off GCs from my ole ride and engine "wobbles" like crazy!! A simple wonder cure...proven! tongue.gif


Added on May 9, 2012, 8:58 amps. Transferred GCs to present Saga FL. No diff!! doh.gif


Added on May 9, 2012, 9:00 ampps. Added VS to same FL...only noticeable diff is better bass fr HU...wink.gif


Added on May 9, 2012, 9:01 amppps. Good morning, Everyone!! Mid-week oledi!! thumbup.gif
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Placebo, proven. wink.gif

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post May 10 2012, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 10 2012, 09:08 AM)
Will leh, everytime I see those old cars in my condo go over bump got "kluk pshhhh pshhhh kluk kluk" sound. Pretty sure the pshh pshh sound is from the abs.
Your car is what line? Those RM30k BLM is N-line wor, don't even have power windows I think...
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Our Saga also will realease such sound even it is normal, becos is air based absorber...
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QUOTE(mr_boonez @ May 11 2012, 09:29 AM)
3rd day with the Saga FLX. odometer still 25km. Haha.
Tonight will be first long distance journey balik kampung.

I understand the engine still "dara", so I would not put much hope on the FC yet. But I have to say, PROTON did well with the FLX. If not mistaken, the suspension is also different from the pre-facelift SAGA right?

and 1 more thing....PROTON punya A/Cond memang sejuk wehhhhh!
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You balik mana? From where to where? How many KM's? tongue.gif

The suspension is stiffer, and less body roll when cornering.
What Proton claimed is more 'neutral' in handling and comfort.

Well, some of them complain it was hard. So is own preference.

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QUOTE(dares @ May 11 2012, 09:45 AM)
Morning  rclxms.gif
You forgot to add, "don't sell cheap cheap to kenji".  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
FLX suspension is stiffer than FL and BLM. And yeah, the one good thing about Saga is the cold aircon  thumbup.gif
You speak as if we all work in a nuclear powerplant  shocking.gif


Added on May 11, 2012, 9:46 am

Hahaha yea, from outside ppl see the car no body roll.

Inside the car the driver and passenger rolling like bowling balls  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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You mean FLX? hmm.gif

If like that, can describe driver and passenger in BLM/FL rolling like tsunami adi... ohmy.gif
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Ei, anyone of you guys de-carbonized ur Saga ah, using some sort of spray inject from intake manifold? Or ask workshop to clean throttle body better? Necessary to do that or not?

Actually i worry carbon go out from exhaust valve during de-carbonized will coating the O2 sensor and make the sensor kong...
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QUOTE(dares @ May 11 2012, 10:56 AM)
Threebond la
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Yaya... nod.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1300861
Got some sort of 'new' thing for read...of cos believe it or not own judgement la...

Actually last time SC did that during my car is 15k only, he unplug the intake hose and let me see how dirty the throttle body was. Then he spray and start the car, my car 'smoking' until the same day night time. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ May 11 2012, 11:06 AM)
I tried threebond when I bought my old Waja which had 120k km on the clock.

I can tell you it works (definitely not placebo), if your engine / throttlebody is really dirty in the first place. Else you won't feel any difference.
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What i think is throttle body definitely is dirty after 50k of traveling... hmm.gif

Last time SC guy told me for stock car, the ori 'bullet' got multiple layer of filter before exhaust gas can pass through, this filter actually make the exhaust gas 'smoke back' to throttle body and make it more dirty than previous car. Been told the filter is for emission control. So if possible, throw away the ori part and replace with straight flow 'bullet'....

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QUOTE(sarjantulang @ May 11 2012, 11:25 AM)
as salam,

last two week i just change my Timing Belt kit + water pump for my BLM....cost me RM333(for the TB+WP) and RM120 for the labour charge...

i'm change at 101,320km....so my next change will about 201,000km since the TB can be use for 100000km...

sarjantulang
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Great information, this is what i want to know... thumbup.gif rclxms.gif

Wa, TB tahan 100k+ oh? unsure.gif Quite risky la....i think i will change mostly on 90k+...

Anyway, what is car age now? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ May 11 2012, 11:28 AM)
just change timing belt no change fan belt ? and timing belt + water pump only RM333 kah ?
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Fan belt? accessories belt is it? Our car fan is electric fan, no need belt la...

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