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post Apr 18 2012, 01:18 AM, updated 14y ago

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If you have an interest in the full series of this work, please visit my official published work here



I would really appreciate it if you can let your thoughts be known to me in this thread after you have seen my work =)



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In this shoot, I just got my 600W Portable Strobe ! hoho ! please pardon me if I under perform in this series, I am still getting used to handling this beast

For some time already I have been admiring this fashion photographer her name is Emily Soto, I know she uses a 600W Alien Bee with a special beauty dish. Now that I have my own outdoor lighting system already I guess I am one more step closer to my goals =)

Wish me luck my friends ;-)

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i think all of them got very distracting backgrounds. #2 even got a dude in the background. rclxms.gif colors seem to be very dull too.
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post Apr 18 2012, 07:26 AM

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imho... dunno y but looks like point n shoot result with built in flash

1) the shadows too harsh?
2) yeah, got mamat in the background and overblown sky?
3) how come no DOF feel one?
4) sky overblown?
5) what is that black rectangle on the stairs?
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post Apr 18 2012, 07:31 AM

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#1 strong shadow

#2 the lower body of her has been cropped, better if you cut right after her finger

your subject is wearing white cloth, white cloth with white sky doesn't work well, try bring back the sky, your picture will look more pleasant
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:49 AM

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I like how the girls wear for this time... Makes me think wild brows.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(yankiat @ Apr 18 2012, 10:49 AM)
I like how the girls wear for this time... Makes me think wild brows.gif
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eh, act innocent, u go see bikini girls there nose already bleeding kao kao... whistling.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:03 AM

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yea.... the old wholley molley is back to his/her ownself
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Apr 18 2012, 10:56 AM)
eh, act innocent, u go see bikini girls there nose already bleeding kao kao... whistling.gif
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Haiya those bikini girls are too revealing... I prefer this type of clothing rclxm9.gif brows.gif makes you feel shiok!
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(yankiat @ Apr 18 2012, 11:16 AM)
Haiya those bikini girls are too revealing... I prefer this type of clothing rclxm9.gif brows.gif makes you feel shiok!
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actually i agree with u... and this also has more artsy feel smile.gif
and kudos to wlml this set is much better smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Apr 18 2012, 11:22 AM)
actually i agree with u... and this also has more artsy feel smile.gif
and kudos to wlml this set is much better smile.gif
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are u sure????
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:37 AM

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What's the dood doing in the background? That's bad form.
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QUOTE(alcohol @ Apr 18 2012, 11:35 AM)
are u sure????
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am comparing to his/her previous shots la smile.gif
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HM, can intro the girl sitting down in the 1st pic? I wanna ask her for personal portrait shoot brows.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(yankiat @ Apr 18 2012, 11:50 AM)
HM, can intro the girl sitting down in the 1st pic? I wanna ask her for personal portrait shoot brows.gif
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here we go again.... icon_question.gif

i wan to see TS take male photos.. see if u wan him to intro u or not
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QUOTE(alcohol @ Apr 18 2012, 11:51 AM)
here we go again....  icon_question.gif

i wan to see TS take male photos.. see if u wan him to intro u or not
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I got shoot male portrait also at playground... You wanna see? I can upload it here brows.gif
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All hamsap lo here... tell ur wife/gf only u know biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:59 AM

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Hmm.... We appreciate pleasant things/human tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Apr 18 2012, 11:56 AM)
All hamsap lo here... tell ur wife/gf only u know biggrin.gif
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i was showing my wife all the bikini pics yesterday... she was like... hmmm, ok... laugh.gif
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All seem like snapshot photos... T__T

oh yah~ got some side lighting/flash, at least better than Point & shoot camera with direct flash.


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post Apr 18 2012, 12:43 PM

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SNSD featuring mamat in BG, good one!
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SNSD feat. Macha ...lol
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post Apr 18 2012, 05:00 PM

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haha thank you guys for commenting in my thread ! =)

See you guys soon at our upcoming shoot yo !




QUOTE(yankiat @ Apr 18 2012, 11:50 AM)
HM, can intro the girl sitting down in the 1st pic? I wanna ask her for personal portrait shoot brows.gif
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hmm ... if you click on my gallery you can see their fanpage, you can try contacting her through there i suppose =)

Her name is Sandy
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post Apr 18 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Wholleymolley @ Apr 18 2012, 05:00 PM)
haha thank you guys for commenting in my thread ! =)

See you guys soon at our upcoming shoot yo !
hmm ... if you click on my gallery you can see their fanpage, you can try contacting her through there i suppose =)

Her name is Sandy
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So who are the LYN regulars who are attending the upcoming shoot?
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post Apr 18 2012, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Apr 18 2012, 05:22 PM)
So who are the LYN regulars who are attending the upcoming shoot?
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not sure man, coz a lot ppl is not from KL =(
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Your author's note, tells a lot about you and your output, and I don't mean it in a good way.
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post Apr 19 2012, 02:04 PM

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hi ts, just some opinion...

actually i oso just realize the mistake from my own previous shooting..

when we go outdoor shooting, we suppose to preserve our background and to record them clearly right ? i mean if we were to ignore the background then it's not an outdoor shooting anymore,

as in the proper exposure , for example ur photo , with the wash out sky , which u can see white color being recorded only... is consider wrong exposure...

so i guess u will wan to fire a few shots without flash first to make sure u get the background right and then only u go with the flash light u have here which suppose to be good enough to lid up the model ... i mean 600W flash...

so everything is ok except for the wrongly use equipment ba... if u have these powerful flash light but u still shoot like u r shooting without flash... then its abit weird d... just to point out the mistake i did recently, hope i m not too mean and could more or less help u in next shooting smile.gif




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post Apr 19 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(lipfvng @ Apr 19 2012, 02:04 PM)
hi ts, just some opinion...

actually i oso just realize the mistake from my own previous shooting..

when we go outdoor shooting, we suppose to preserve our background and to record them clearly right ? i mean if we were to ignore the background then it's not an outdoor shooting anymore,

as in the proper exposure , for example ur photo , with the wash out sky , which u can see white color being recorded only... is consider wrong exposure...

so i guess u will wan to fire a few shots without flash first to make sure u get the background right and then only u go with the flash light u have here which suppose to be good enough to lid up the model ... i mean 600W flash...

so everything is ok except for the wrongly use equipment ba... if u have these powerful flash light but u still shoot like u r shooting without flash... then its abit weird d... just to point out the mistake i did recently, hope i m not too mean and could more or less help u in next shooting smile.gif
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yes, what you say is correct, there is this guy that I admire http://ricknunn.com/fiftyoffifty

He also say he meter the photo till exposure correct first before apply lighting hehe

I will try this asap



Thank you so much !
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post Apr 19 2012, 05:13 PM

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I think the shots are quite good already. Even professional need to do a lot of post-processing work after the shooting sessions. Sometimes you just can't prevent people walking around just like the photo #2. I got interviewed in big studio before and they told me that a lot of PP were done before releasing it to their clients. What I think TS lack of now is PP skills. Just my 2 cents
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QUOTE(lipfvng @ Apr 19 2012, 02:04 PM)
hi ts, just some opinion...

actually i oso just realize the mistake from my own previous shooting..

when we go outdoor shooting, we suppose to preserve our background and to record them clearly right ? i mean if we were to ignore the background then it's not an outdoor shooting anymore,

as in the proper exposure , for example ur photo , with the wash out sky , which u can see white color being recorded only... is consider wrong exposure...

so i guess u will wan to fire a few shots without flash first to make sure u get the background right and then only u go with the flash light u have here which suppose to be good enough to lid up the model ... i mean 600W flash...

so everything is ok except for the wrongly use equipment ba... if u have these powerful flash light but u still shoot like u r shooting without flash... then its abit weird d... just to point out the mistake i did recently, hope i m not too mean and could more or less help u in next shooting smile.gif
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Informative reply. Wan to ask something about this metering the sky. Pass few years when I went to this Hot air balloon festival, the sky was not blue ended I have a good exposure of the Hot Air Baloon with an over exposed sky. Even if it's abit blue but we need to expose the subject with a proper exposure which result this blue sky turned over exposed.

Mind to advise me on this.

Sorry Molley, I tumpang thread can??
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emm... try playing with angle...mind the distance between you to models n

models to background,

anyway...outdoor shooting is hard..nice theme anyway..
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post Apr 20 2012, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 19 2012, 05:55 PM)
Informative reply. Wan to ask something about this metering the sky. Pass few years when I went to this Hot air balloon festival, the sky was not blue ended I have a good exposure of the Hot Air Baloon with an over exposed sky. Even if it's abit blue but we need to expose the subject with a proper exposure which result this blue sky turned over exposed.

Mind to advise me on this.

Sorry Molley, I tumpang thread can??
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good question... i assume , when u r shooting the hot air baloon... it's almsot impossible to meter the sky properly, i mean u meter the sky , the balloon underexposed , u meter the balloon sky over exposed... wat i can think of is... adapt the CPL filter , then meter the hot balloon... with 1 stop down... so by then u should be able to get the sky detail recorded properly... n then for the balloon will looks underexposed by abit, but u only need to adjust in lightroom or cs5 for abit to tune up just for the balloon part.... so u get the sky n the balloon... rather than u lose either of it...

if any si fuu disagree and have better thought , pls do hesistate to point out my mistake notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 19 2012, 05:55 PM)
Informative reply. Wan to ask something about this metering the sky. Pass few years when I went to this Hot air balloon festival, the sky was not blue ended I have a good exposure of the Hot Air Baloon with an over exposed sky. Even if it's abit blue but we need to expose the subject with a proper exposure which result this blue sky turned over exposed.

Mind to advise me on this.

Sorry Molley, I tumpang thread can??
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I don't know if this is correct: shoot with smaller aperture to get the maximum detail of sky and balloon, fire the flash if is needed.
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My 2 cents is shoot with matrix-metering to get the most of the sky or you may manual meter your shots for getting the background sky expose correctly. Lit your subject with off-camera flash or strobe and get the shots. I might be wrong. Just sharing my thoughts though
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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Apr 20 2012, 09:36 AM)
I don't know if this is correct: shoot with smaller aperture to get the maximum detail of sky and balloon, fire the flash if is needed.
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Apr 20 2012, 10:24 AM)
My 2 cents is shoot with matrix-metering to get the most of the sky or you may manual meter your shots for getting the background sky expose correctly. Lit your subject with off-camera flash or strobe and get the shots. I might be wrong. Just sharing my thoughts though
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hmmm hmm.gif , i think wat bro knight trying to say is when he is shooting the hot air balloon up high... when flash is not reachable... however bro yip n heinlein's thoughts is useful if the balloon is on the ground and oso very useful for bro wholley molley, because he actually brought his 600W light with him while outdoor , which can illuminates the object properly.
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About knight's issue, i think it can be fixed with HDR mode turned on if his camera has this function.
p.s.: I'm not talking about bracket shots and fix it in photoshop.
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QUOTE(lipfvng @ Apr 20 2012, 02:45 AM)
good question... i assume , when u r shooting the hot air baloon... it's almsot impossible to meter the sky properly, i mean u meter the sky , the balloon underexposed , u meter the balloon sky over exposed... wat i can think of is... adapt the CPL filter , then meter the hot balloon... with 1 stop down... so by then u should be able to get the sky detail recorded properly... n then for the balloon will looks underexposed by abit, but u only need to adjust in lightroom or cs5 for abit to tune up just for the balloon part.... so u get the sky n the balloon... rather than u lose either of it...

if any si fuu disagree and have better thought , pls do hesistate to point out my mistake  notworthy.gif
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CPL to polarize the lightings, but it will work in the morning and evening only. I usually have no other choice but to edit it as RAW and fill the dark spot. Else need to do HDR which I dun like certain picture to have so much contrast in it. Hmm..maybe I not good in HDR yet.


QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Apr 20 2012, 09:36 AM)
I don't know if this is correct: shoot with smaller aperture to get the maximum detail of sky and balloon, fire the flash if is needed.
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Sorry bro, I think you dun get my idea. Balloon so big, flash won't reach.


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QUOTE(heinlein @ Apr 20 2012, 10:24 AM)
My 2 cents is shoot with matrix-metering to get the most of the sky or you may manual meter your shots for getting the background sky expose correctly. Lit your subject with off-camera flash or strobe and get the shots. I might be wrong. Just sharing my thoughts though
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Haha..I wish I can do light painting on the subject..too bad it's so high..

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the way i used to retain the sky is to use matrix metering, under expose the shot by 1/3 or 2/3 stop

then pp in lightroom 4, use exposure brush to bring back the exposure of the subject, then use adjustment brush with different settings to bring back the sky. it depends on how bright is the sky, if cloudy days it is more easy to to recover the sky, while sunny day is tough luck
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 20 2012, 05:37 PM)
the way i used to retain the sky is to use matrix metering, under expose the shot by 1/3 or 2/3 stop

then pp in lightroom 4, use exposure brush to bring back the exposure of the subject, then use adjustment brush with different settings to bring back the sky. it depends on how bright is the sky, if cloudy days it is more easy to to recover the sky, while sunny day is tough luck
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I think this Matrix metering is evaluative in Canon. So the effect shall be low exposed of the subject and less over exposed of the sky. Still need to edit in PS in the case.
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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 23 2012, 10:48 AM)
I think this Matrix metering is evaluative in Canon. So the effect shall be low exposed of the subject and less over exposed of the sky. Still need to edit in PS in the case.
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Use reflector to reflect soft light to subject, then in camera light meter underexpose by 1/3 or 2/3, evaluative or matrix metering

If got polarized filter the result will be even better, i got some shot that i did yesterday where i shot against the sky, will upload it to my showcase thread once it is done
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 23 2012, 12:51 PM)
Use reflector to reflect soft light to subject, then in camera light meter underexpose by 1/3 or 2/3, evaluative or matrix metering

If got polarized filter the result will be even better, i got some shot that i did yesterday where i shot against the sky, will upload it to my showcase thread once it is done
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agreed with the CPL filter , oh 1 thing to mention here is , CPL not only use for morning n evening only , CPL is often use to bring out the background especially the sky or the sea.

Then bro , the object here is the Hot air balloon up high , i doubt u could use reflector on it... hmm.gif

then i believe that there is no way to have the bg and the object in a scenery well exposed without having to go into photoshop or post processing. At least up till now after i read through most of the magazine n books , i see none... so the best would probably be CPL filter , evaluative like Bro Amduser mention underexpose abit or more depends on the situation , make sure there is no highlight warning , then the rest is just post processing.

Thanks to all tai kor , i learn another thing here notworthy.gif
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Thank all you guys for sharing all these useful technicalities =)

I have learn a thing or two

 

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