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post Apr 17 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Apr 17 2012, 10:51 PM)
why the old one not yet reach 2500 then open a new version?
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:08 PM

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People need to be educated about turbo cars....

http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/e...nduction_2.html
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 17 2012, 11:40 PM)
datuk, why the car got visible weld spot at door? not on any previous proton car like persona and saga wor....
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already answered on v3.. go search..

please dun annoy the datuk until he run away.. his one of the more knowledgeable ppl in here among all the trolls...

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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Apr 17 2012, 11:41 PM)
lol..so the 1.6 turbo = 2.0 power is subjective (and bullshit) yea?
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 17 2012, 11:46 PM)
ei, where got.

i search, only saw 5 replies....
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...s&highlite=weld
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wrong thread.. sorry

this:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2307080?author=mat79
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 18 2012, 12:00 AM)
seems more and more negative views coming up. better shift the price to RM50K for medium auto spec?
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-ve review wont change their mind just because its rm50k. you sell it at 10k oso they will still complain and say shit things...

well i guess only with this type of ppl around proton will continue to further improve and push themselves to higher height. smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 18 2012, 12:09 AM)
If just need a car from point A to point B, I think better buy Persona. Bang for buck.
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go ahead lo. no one stopping you pun...
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Apr 18 2012, 12:13 AM)
but no ESP, no 4 airbag, no 5 star EuroNCAP/Australian NCAP, no nice interior, no huge space especially the rear, no hugeass boot and no turbo.
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dun need all that.. he jst need a cheap car to go A to B ma...
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Play around with the reconfigure... i personally prefer the 1st one with totally black rim.

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post Apr 18 2012, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(ssaturn @ Apr 18 2012, 03:33 AM)
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What I mean is the center Audio Player Design, too square and too old fashion, still use the old framework concept (Dual Rack, design to fit an LCD size). Unless they expect you to change the Audio Player in not far future smile.gif
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If you can compare both of them side by side, you will find lot's of different. Damn the night, my brain not working well  rclxub.gif

Seriously I feel they should launch this Car like in Gen 2 Era
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i personally hate the new elantra interior.. waaayyy to many curve. I prefer the minimalist approach of conti car which is the route proton choose..

the car was design and built with more euro DNA then asian. the only asian thing about it is that we make them. thats all... the rest are all euro influence. bosch HU, probably bosch (ESC, ABS, TS, EBD) as well, borg warner turbo, lotus help to built and design the engine, italian design house, left hand signal stalk, german quality control director, and etc etc... the only asian thing in it is that there is malaysian involve as well. that is about as asian as the car get.

i guess msian just got poison for jap car way to long, they just cant accept anything else...


Added on April 18, 2012, 7:50 am
QUOTE(ravi9907 @ Apr 18 2012, 04:14 AM)

Added on April 18, 2012, 4:16 amTest drove the 1.6 Elantra and was impressed with the design and handling. Was waiting for Preve launch before deciding, and after all the comments, I might as well stick to Elantra.


Added on April 18, 2012, 4:22 amProton should look into the cost efficiency of producing its car. It is tagged at 60K to RM72K. The Hyundai Elantra (Avante) starting price is RM40K in Korea. That is a huge difference withstanding Elantra is a better make compared to Preve.


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Added on April 18, 2012, 4:48 am

Heloo kawan, for 73K, we expect a better product, since it is made locally.
My personal opinion, if want to give this kind of quality, it should be priced half the price. If want to argue, go check how much is the price of other makes of the same class as Preve in their local market. It is less than half the price it sell in Malaysia, off course cant argue the pricing in Malaysia because of the tax imposed when it comes to our shore.
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max stupidity. you quote elantra price with no tax and you quote preve price is with tax doh.gif smartttt!!

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 18 2012, 08:50 AM)
so mat79, are you saying that need to waste quite some fuel to get the car going in D mode?


Added on April 18, 2012, 8:51 am
ya, need to read two times...
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seriously? out of all that explanation, that is what you summarize? that it takes alot of fuel to get going in D mode doh.gif unbelievable some ppl...

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:11 AM)
So in other words;-

1) Proton used a shortcut in complying with Euro 5 emission by programming a default ECO mode (read: drive-like-a-sissy mode) into the car's throttle response since highest emission is during initial pick-up
2) FC will suffer if the driver wishes to move faster when the traffic lights turn green
3) DSG has a split second lag in power delivery, that's true ..... but in the case of Preve's CVT, the lag is dependent on how soon you hit 2,000rpm which varies according to driver. DSG's lag on the other hand is consistent regardless of how much pressure is on the gas pedal

Gosh, this is all making the CFE sound like a gimmick ... the turbo is supposed to give the engine performance of a 2.0 but in all the 2.0s I've driven (Camry, Accord, Sonata, K5 just to name a few), the initial acceleration is never this bad
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DSG = GEARBOX
2000RPM stuff = CFE = ENGINE

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QUOTE(mutt @ Apr 18 2012, 09:17 AM)
Is there any mod can be done to improve the lag? And without voiding the warranty?
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im sure this will void your warranty... but you can search something call "drive throttle controller"

iinm it basically interfere with the DBW sensor to the ECU to signal a bigger opening of the throttle.. but i not sure if it will have much effect coz base on what mat79 says, its how they program in the ECU itself to limit response.

on the other hand, some car manufacturer do on purpose make their earlier car slower so that they can "upgrade" the performance later... laugh.gif true story...
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:42 AM)
i'm not that good in car thing.
perhaps you can summarize it in more simple way?
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By kristof:

1) You have mentioned that the clutch is almost completely open while standing still with D engaged, is this the prime reason of slight lagging when slowly pressing the gas to move?

yes, if you release the brake and immediately press the gas, this is the case. It is always better not to press the gas immediately unless you have to (uphill), you will notive less delay. That it isn't superagressive at launch (if you would mean this by lag) is calibration, it is to preserve both engine and CVT. it is called torque reduction, the engines power delivery is minimized, although full throttle.

For issue with CVT etc etc.. lagging bla bla... please go to this thread:

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...54&st=0&start=0

There is a guy call Kristof who is the Manager of Customer Care Malaysia @ Punch Powertrain replying directly all the question ask. Please read all his prev comment before asking question as many of them has been asked before. Also please please ppl!! refrain from being an idiot that pretend smart punya attitude and taint msian reputation...
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Apr 18 2012, 10:10 AM)
yeah your "friend"  rolleyes.gif
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i dont think he even have a friend...
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:29 AM)
Guys, earlier got proton people already claim that it already get 5 Stars ANCAP rating? Is it official? At the launch only stats MIROS 5 Stars not ANCAP.

I emailed ANCAP enquiring about this and wether they are testing the car or not.
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Proton Cars Australia managing director John Startari today confirmed that the Prevé had been crash-tested in Australia as part of its development, and would be re-tested at the same facility for ANCAP ratings ahead of its local launch in August.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf...A2579DE0022F632


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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:34 AM)
ooo..but how come before launch already so confident will get 5 star ancap safety
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because they tested at the same facility...

its like u take exam with the same paper u do trial..


Added on April 18, 2012, 11:51 am
QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 11:36 AM)
ok thx for the clarification . It will reach aussie this september if not mistaken.
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august...

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QUOTE(klow @ Apr 18 2012, 11:39 AM)
If the engine is powerful then it will not roll back but not all engine that powerful. That's why the tech "Hill-start assist". For normal car, it shall roll back.
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wrong.. it depend on the transmission...
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 18 2012, 11:42 AM)
Aiyo abg, prtn mane ader issue official statement 5 stars ANCAP, prtn issue preve design to MEET 5 stars NCAP by doing various testing according to ncap(whether euro@auncap) procedures n more that is under unece procedures, thatchams, adr n many more.

Aiyo, already tarnish the name before arrived there :-). Whay u heard is unofficial statement by somebody on the net.

Haishhh, is that hard to understand.
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sabar je lah datuk...
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Apr 18 2012, 11:54 AM)
what are the 6 new models?

Preve, the hatchback, what else?
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u ask us.. as if la we know.. only DSZ knows... where got ppl bocor company product line doh.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 18 2012, 12:01 PM)
This guy replies fast.
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head protecting technology (eg side curtain airbags)

this is what we are missing in msian version i think.. so no 5 star for our local unit tongue.gif


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QUOTE(sleepy @ Apr 18 2012, 12:03 PM)
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dei.. how many time la you all wan to post this pic.. boring already...

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