hey guys, I've been wondering about this for nearly two years now since the day I saw KYUEM's fees... A-levels in KYUEM costs around 80k, why is it so expensive? In my eyes it just looks like a typical low budget private institution judging from how the website, building and students look.. looks a lot like what a Malay college would look like too... Taylor's A-levels (4 subs) don't even cost 50k in fees but KYUEM costs 80k? Can somebody please tell me why?

if you had read the fees schedule, you would have noticed food and lodging is also included. And yes, it is a boarding school.

Because nobody bothers to pay for it. It seems that most of the students enrolled there are scholars from JPA and MARA. 23% of them get into Oxbridge.

More than half of the teachers (lecturers?) there are expats, and kyuem is the third best A level college in south east asia. Kyuem is a premier college, hence, it's premier price.

Wow 23% is a big claim. Do they make it themselves? Wonder how they prove it.

it's a residential school.....like ktj, although their facilities are not as good....

and like said, the vast majority of students are sponsored.....therefore they do NOT have to sell based on competitive pricing.....(just like perdana uni)...

where does it say 23% of students got into oxbridge?....

From its advertisement, I think 5 got Cambridge this year, one in med, one eng, two law and another.

The statistic would be justified if they only had 22 students... but something tells me they have more (their ads display quite a few students' profiles, and if you put ads it must be to attract more students).

the question is directed to amir, who made that statement....

Yeah that Amir Palermo dude, still think it's a little big of an exaggeration though... 23%? Seriously?

This post has been edited by KuzumiTaiga: Apr 17 2012, 02:39 PM

To get to know whats really in it, one must go to edu fair and grabbed two of its prospectuses, one consists of general description abt the colege, another about their long list of students that enter OXbridge + other unis, there is one girl who get into stanford oso if im not mistaken. a huge portion of tis students made it to prestigous unis in UK tho not all got into OXbridge...namely IMperial, UCL, KCL, Warwick, Bristol, Cardiff, Manchester bath and etc etc... so it is really impressive.

What i think that can justifies the 80k needed to be forked out by its students are its almost-to-none list of lecturers
which is mostly "imported" from overc and its boarding services... However, if i were to compare KYUEM and KTJ, KTJ stand in much better, lol although im not a student of any of the both, if anoyone ask me abt choices, my preferential goes to the latter. 80k for boarding skol A levels is consider cheap already, try googling Concorde College and you will be shock to know its rate of Oxbirdge and MIT/ HArvard admit and also its beatiful price.

We forgot to mention-old boys association. Yes, there are a lot of sponsored students at KYUEM, even that I doubt all of them are considerably more gifted than the fellows at Taylor's, Sunway and HELP.

Then it's not far-fetched to say that the instructors at KYUEM know admission tutors, fellows, deans at Oxford and Cambridge. That said, their recommendation letters carry more weight than some unknown yet effective lecturer at HELP or Taylor's. At RM80k per head, KYUEM can definitely recruit teachers who have cables in the UK.

Hey guys I'm from KYUEM and I'm gonna sit for my A2 exam this June.

The fees are not 80k but 67k for the 2-year program. This is inclusive of meals, laundry, and accommodation. We have tennis, squash, basketball and volleyball courts available for free. So is the olympic-size swimming pool and the gym (theres male and female gym)

40% of the teachers here are expats and the rest are local teachers. The results of the students here are pretty impressive. For my year, the AS results, 83.8% got A's and B's plus majority of those who took Further Mathematics got an A* in maths. Every year theres a couple of students admitted to Oxbridge and a number of others who gained top in Malaysia and top in the world. Last year someone got admitted to Stanford and this year one of my batch mates received an offer from Yale and John Hopkins.

Sorry to dissapoint you feynman but all of us applied for our universities through ucas and I'm very positive none of us used 'cables' around here. All of us worked hard to gain admittance to top UK universities. The healthy mixture of sponsored and private students (50%-50% for my batch) together with the conducive environment (note: middle of nowhere) definitely helps us. Tons of scholarship bodies sends their scholars here not just MARA and JPA but also Khazanah, BNM, UEM, PNB, YTM, YTN, and etc.

Personally I think KTJ have better facilities than KYUEM but get ready to fork out 100k to go there.

Another bloke who doesn't read properly. Go read it again before you make another groundless assertion.

Don't you know that your teachers have to write a recommendation letter even if your apply through UCAS?

This post has been edited by feynman: Apr 18 2012, 03:49 AM

Ah forgive me feynman. Then, before I jump to another conclusion, correct me if I'm wrong but after re-reading your post I deduced that you are accusing KYUEM, because of the high fees charged which you thought was 80k, KYUEM is able to hire teachers who have cables in UK such as admissions tutors, fellows, and deans at Oxbridge. Because of this, the recommendation letter written by those teachers which is included in ucas carry more weight compared to an unknown lecturer in other colleges.

Yes? No? A one word answer would suffice.

I wouldn't call it an accusation. It's an intelligent speculation. Higher fees means greater financial flexibility to compensate teachers. Higher compensation means greater ability to attract the right crowd. So it's not illogical to surmise that out of the lot at KYUEM, there would be some teachers who have an extensive networks that include tutors in UK universities.

Do you know how potent and effective networks are?

Then, I shall leave you with your speculation. Have a good day feynman

Hope, we have!!

All the best in your coming exams!

To a certain extent, the "right" PS and recommendation letter plays a very important part. They are many straight As students in Taylors n Sunway but getting into Oxbridge is another matter. You don't need expatriate to teach A levels to score. They do make a difference, however, along the way.

Yes, i gotta agree with you on that point.. Effective networks and "cables" do carry alot of weight. Not to say accuse or whatever, but one shud know that even the headmaster of KYUEM is a pure 100% brit, and i think that sure carries alot of weight.

Besides that, most of those who go to KYUEM are quite well-off, esp privately-sponsored ones, hence, its definitely not a problem for them to fork out 80k. even the sponsored ones included, not all scholars there are hardcore poor, bear in mind, some scholars are also very wealthy scholars.

Yeah, one JPA scholar whose parents are doctors. Not to say all doctors are rich but surely they are more deserving ones.