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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XXX8-+♠+◄, The Rise of the PE

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post Apr 18 2012, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 18 2012, 12:04 AM)
global car?tis preve still far away to regard it as global car..glove box difficult open and close,the centre console too plastic,will got rattling sound when press it,dashboard will vibrate when press hard to pick up,rear speaker board got rattling sound,somemore got windnoise from rear triangle screen..wit a lot of quality issue,how can be good sell at international?haiz
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maybe your expectation is so damn high? i'm not saying this rubish because my persona also not rubish, i buy with my hard earn cash biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 18 2012, 10:43 AM)
Honestly I've high expectation of CFE version of Preve. Did not expect their qc to be even worse than PE. Anyway for me to consider replacing the PE with CFE Preve, I might consider ONLY after their mid-life mod where 2nd improve version of Preve appear. See how much improvement 1st generation Persona and mid-life PE difference.....solved most of initially issue and improve looks and performance on some....so will wait.

For me, actually I'm quite ok with PE. If compare with other conti, jap or even korean (korean is getting very good, almost comparable with Jap tho have not tried the award winning elantra yet, high expectation there), sure lose kaw kaw.

However if compare with other vehicle at same price range, I'm actually like PE especially its superb handling. I'm talking abt H-Line tho with its improved NVH, leather seats, abs, etc vs M-B lines. Without LCP, its really has lousy pickup with the dated gearbox but with LCP, its a different beast (or shoot I say tame animal)..oh....changing air filter every 10K is a must. The last time I change change at 15K....whoo...my PE gained much noticeable renewed power, so I will make it a must to change air filter every 10K. Less than RM20 for that power (abt 5-6 months usage). RM40 a year, worth it since our IAFM effect improve a lot for that replacement.

Now even my wife that keep complaining PE totally no power, commented, PE pickup ok liao but brake not so makan....ya right, just change the FBK branded front pads. Earlier complained abt LCP increased noise, now get used to it liao, so it become part of usual car engine noise....I think why many did not comment on the extra noise produced by LCP. It sounds bassy similar to those changed exhaust noise, some ppl will actually like it. Me...immuned liao. LCP increased low end torque is a MUST for auto PE. Without it, I will call it a shitty car with no pickup. Now I actually enjoyed driving the PE, sometimes more so than City due to the handling (pickup still lose a lot but stability on higher speed, City lose kaw kaw).

NVH is quite good, still lose out to my City but last time I open windows and drive and then close....very big different. Dashboard rattles after 6 months...but even Forte rattles after a year. Rear seat noise solved and if appear again, retape and problem solved. Rear right windows noise issue that irritate me for a few months suddenly disappear liao...rubber got cured?? (I used Xan method and lubricate the door rubber with rubber softening lotion, works a short while, then appear again....but a couple of months, right now, it disappear liao).
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persona is good car is true. i drove just B-Line the NVH maybe poor than H-Line, Ratling sound are at front widnow at rubber there and at my HU, other's all superb. the drive comfort are comparable with inspira 2.0 except the power inspira more umphhh with CVT. but once i enter other car i will miss handling and pleasure drive with my PE smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:59 AM)
Malehsial punya NL, CKT, RC u love lah pondan  laugh.gif
d1u.... i though u registered preve


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pangkah to the party that u don't like. tongue.gif
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every time i dont like BN i pangkah them thats why BN always win big yoo biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 18 2012, 12:28 PM)
blink.gif ur 1 vote accounts to 10000 votes ka? doh.gif
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if u asking like that better u dont voted, because ur voted are not 1000000=1 tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 18 2012, 12:43 PM)
1 year. Plus. laugh.gif
Cos you say BN win big because of you ma. If that's the case, I kill you, after next GE I can buy GT86 @ 140k. brows.gif
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haha.. hard to predict but sure lar BN will win again this election. I just read in news paper, government should let youngster to do demonstration because it's their voice to attention for.
then let's having demonstration to abolish NAP lor whistling.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 18 2012, 02:30 PM)
Tats why i said,d dashboard wil vibrate when press hard to pick up.but press a bit,d car response is sluggish lo
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dashboard vibrate like what? like doing 140km/h on kancil? hmm.gif

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post Apr 18 2012, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 18 2012, 02:34 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
rclxub.gif stars: , this preve might be poisoning for me, but i will get this car maybe another next 3years after improving facelift version came-out tongue.gif ,
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 18 2012, 09:38 PM)
@sam & others who are interested to see how the EFR performs:


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why ur meter so light? looks fake to me hmm.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Apr 18 2012, 05:44 PM)
I saw my headlamps fogged up after the rain. Can claim warranty?
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u can DIY, last time i oso got same issue with dust some-more enter my headlamp, the solution open ur hood and u will find back headlamp got rubber for bulb to seal the lamp, it's not properly fit, so i remove and properly put in back and now it fit nicely and no more fog and dust come in
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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 18 2012, 09:43 PM)
Cos I using iPong in daytime? doh.gif And the phone camera is very near the meter..

Which part fake? hmm.gif
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no, what i mean, why ur car got good pickup! ur car accelerated more than my car
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:54 PM

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my ratling sound on HU solve, i try tighten screw under the HU above air-cond controller knob. no more sound.

and guess what. i gatal tangan try to check all cockpit and door screw, all sudah longar! i tight-it kaw2 then rattling sound seems reduce a-bit
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 18 2012, 09:53 PM)
blink.gif And... how is that argument relevant?
Ya. Way cheaper.
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blink.gif Not dun stop cirit birit? whistling.gif
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Xand i dont follow this forum lately, ofcoz i know u did some modification there. whistling.gif


Added on April 18, 2012, 9:58 pm
QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 18 2012, 09:55 PM)
then later when go thru bumpy road screw patah, lol
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lol

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post Apr 20 2012, 03:08 PM

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guys, i will soon replace my ATF with ATF-XP3 , some said i need flash old ATF before using this ATF, anyone can eloborated?
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post Apr 20 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(kiatsim86 @ Apr 20 2012, 03:13 PM)
yeah flash it...dun flush it  doh.gif
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lol, typo error, yeah flush sweat.gif sweat.gif , ok thx. so just need 4l right. some forum said need atleast 6-7l to flush sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 20 2012, 07:22 PM

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Done my test drive!
here my observation for preve, in detail

Exterior;
-The car have a great looks, the back totally different from picture after see with naked eyes actually the tail are blend with the car body.
-I spot the back fog Lamp, and LED at headlamp, the LED not facing front angle instead at headlamp ground.
-The tyre size are suit with car too. not like inspira which the wheel looks small even with same size 16'inch, maybe low profile tyre using at preve?

Interior;
-After seeing inside actually the built quality are not that bad, yes the interior look plain and simple which suit my needs. Dashboard made from soft plastic and also with front passenger door. but overall after seeing the interior yes it's still proton and my great perspective from exterior are torn a-bit.
-The welding spot like other's said is not that obvious! i dont know how their can find that small thing!! even after i open the door i didn't realized the spot welding there after check in detail.
-The glove compartment hard to close, i also don't know why, need to use force then can closed.
-the handbrake position and gear position are hard for me to reach. handbrake looks cheap! really even my persona are better than this. the gear knob are descent with click changes.
-the steering wheel are good and feel premium with leather touch, u got all audio controller there with auto-cruise and multi info display can be check with button at viper,
- The speaker only have 4 and not 6!

Performance;
-The key are nice but still have steel key inside the case. start the car with ease, put the key at slot, press the brake and just press once! the car start by itself, want to turn-off also need to press brake 1st.
-i agree the car like dont want move and feel lazy after press the pedal from stationary even floor the pedal at D mode, S mode are everything! the car feel live when at S mode, D and S mode both also still can use pedal shifter.
the car move slowly from stationary but once at 2k RPM i dont realize that time i already reach 80km NVH and CVT smooth really make the car feel slow but actually the car are fast than i imagine.
-i agree this car have superb NVH than my persona and my sis swift, thumb up for this even revving the engine it's not loud like my persona. and i dont feel any vibration when do hard acceleration like other's say.
- The braking are superb! i agree this! when u pedal the brake it feel so soft and smooth yet brake are feel too good for it's weight and size!

overall, the car a bit poison for me but after ride my current car persona actually their are not much different in ride comfort, preve maybe not kick-in! like Honda, toyota & other's proton car from stationary, but once it hit 2k RPM the car are live!

any info some other's need to know maybe can ask me, bcz i not put all in my written. to long already

Rating exterior 4/5 interior 3/5 performance and comfort 4/5
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post Apr 20 2012, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Apr 20 2012, 07:42 PM)
thumbup.gif for your kind sharing. smile.gif
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their are more for sharing actually, the SA is so kind enough and have lot if info show me everything. thumbup.gif thumb for SA that assist me that time
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post Apr 20 2012, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Apr 20 2012, 07:57 PM)
So good your SA.. Where is the place?
I went to one of SA at puchong, wanna test drive car told me waiting list  doh.gif
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at my place malacca, jalan tun-fatimah the main proton edar HQ.
me too but the waiting list only 1person that time, but road condition not permit me to accelerate more than 120km/h with heavy traffic.

yeah really good SA, will suggest him to my friend who want to buy any proton car
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:59 PM

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Xandras since u are ICE fans, i need ur suggestion for entry level ICE.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1862032
worth it or not with the price? or i can get better than this? budget around RM600
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 24 2012, 08:01 PM)
What's ur preference, first? If u like bass then can go for it la.. Cos bro MovingMachine installed it, and IMHO it's not quite a satisfactory setup for me. Perhaps my requirements are higher. Not that it's not a decent setup, but it all comes down to what u prefer to have more, SPL or SQ.
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i dont know because this will my 1st time setup for ICE, but i prefer clarity more than bass type and ofcoz sound quality 1st, dont want bang boom like ah-beng one.. but i got limited budget.


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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Apr 24 2012, 07:04 PM)
this 1,,,, xandras advise me b4... not a wise choice..
cause strong bass.. and etc etc
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really? how strong the bass? but can reduce with EQ right?

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post Apr 24 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 24 2012, 09:44 PM)
Selling RF instead. Why?
Clarity = SQ. SQ then this is not suitable for u.. I tried reducing the bass through Eq, with it totally off also bass still very strong. The midbass is heavy in that set.

Limited budget.. I would suggest u save for a better component set first if u want SQ..
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xandras, i need how much to meet that budget? because i will only do once! and do not want regret later. i dont need extreme package, just need descent and at the same time with good sound quality delivered.

component set come with 2 coaxial speaker and 2 tweeter with cross right?


Added on April 24, 2012, 10:23 pm
QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Apr 24 2012, 10:04 PM)
upgrade 1 by 1..
maybe u try upgrade front speaker..
i going to do that soon.
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i also planing this,but i really noob in ICE, i want good sound quality which my passenger also can enjoy. dont know also which brand and how to start, latter kena cons liao

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