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post Apr 15 2012, 05:37 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi..
i just found out my wife pregnant 7 weeks yesterday.. this is our 1st child..
Anybody can recommend good klinik and dont cekik people $$$ cause i dont have a lot now ...
What is the procedure and how much for 1st checkup and after ...

Im considering private Hospital like KPJ or SJMC but i want to know either GOVT Hospital is good or not ...
This is my 1st child so i want to give the best if can .. and comfort for my wife ...

If anybody know any good clinic please be kind to give me the name and contact ... icon_question.gif

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Update 28th Nov

My wife already gave birth on the 21st November 2012 at Pusrawi Kota Damansara via CS weighing 2.05kg ..
My child is 3 weeks early .. and due to that need CS cause baby starting to choke inside ..
Total cost for CS with Premium Room (1 bed) is RM5,600 ..


This post has been edited by ekudz: Nov 28 2012, 08:15 PM
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post Apr 15 2012, 05:46 PM

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post Apr 15 2012, 05:58 PM

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Damansara Perdana ..
i search internet got 1 klinik ibu dan anak at TTDI, KL ..
What is the cost for GOVT klinik like that or private klinik?
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post Apr 15 2012, 09:27 PM

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Not very experience but can share something..

You wont be able to do a monthly follow-up (called ante-natal) at normal GP Clinic. Only have 2 choices;

1. Gov Clinic
FOC. But some problem like only open during weekdays, and checkup normally done by the nurse at the klinik kesihatan. Based on the kk my wife went, doctor only available once a week.

2. Private hospital
Pays money ranges from RM50 - 300(?). Mine Assunta, only RM52/each visit (for consultation + monthly urine test). Other places i think slightly higher but wont burn much a hole in your pocket since its only once a month.

First thing you want to do now is choose a hospital and start monthly checkup, eat healthy and careful with everything you do ie. dont do heavy stuff, fall down etc

Happy parenting soon!

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post Apr 15 2012, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Chester @ Apr 15 2012, 09:27 PM)
Not very experience but can share something..

You wont be able to do a monthly follow-up (called ante-natal) at normal GP Clinic. Only have 2 choices;

1. Gov Clinic
FOC. But some problem like only open during weekdays, and checkup normally done by the nurse at the klinik kesihatan. Based on the kk my wife went, doctor only available once a week.

2. Private hospital
Pays money ranges from RM50 - 300(?). Mine Assunta, only RM52/each visit (for consultation + monthly urine test). Other places i think slightly higher but wont burn much a hole in your pocket since its only once a month.

First thing you want to do now is choose a hospital and start monthly checkup, eat healthy and careful with everything you do ie. dont do heavy stuff, fall down etc

Happy parenting soon!

*mine also belum tongue.gif
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Assunta quite cheap is it? Thanks for the suggestion .. got here i found 1 klinik Ibu Mengandung dan Anak-anak at TTDI,KL .. never notice it before.. but the klinik is beside my office.. doh.gif yela, before this no pregnant.. hehehe!! will go for checkup there.. so easier for me just walk there only from my office smile.gif

Now need to find suitable HOSP ... if Private $$$ and if GOVT horror... huhu!!~
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post Apr 15 2012, 09:50 PM

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Beware of DSH. I think if you searched here can find some very nice figure, enough to make you faint.

So near to UM, go there la. If you dont want to wait for monthly checkup, can check in UMSC (private) and ask your wife gynae to refer to UMMC(Gov) when wanna deliver. I heard a few people say its possible. You can ask first.
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post Apr 15 2012, 09:56 PM

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i am a med rep myself. if u want good service and affordable fees. tungshin is a very good choice. look for Dr. Chua Bee Poh, he is nice o&g~wink.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 15 2012, 09:50 PM)
Beware of DSH. I think if you searched here can find some very nice figure, enough to make you faint.

So near to UM, go there la. If you dont want to wait for monthly checkup, can check in UMSC (private) and ask your wife gynae to refer to UMMC(Gov) when wanna deliver. I heard a few people say its possible. You can ask first.
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thanks.. but what is DSH?
Monthly checkup at UM or PPUM? where is UMSC and UMMC? Sorry .. 1st time dont know the short term.


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QUOTE(fierdrop @ Apr 15 2012, 09:56 PM)
i am a med rep myself. if u want good service and affordable fees. tungshin is a very good choice. look for Dr. Chua Bee Poh, he is nice o&g~wink.gif
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where is tungshin? how much and what is the procedure dr. chua going to do?

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tungshin hospital at jalan pudu. he will explain to u in detail, he even will give u his hp in case u need him in middle of the night as well. go register and consult him 1st. actually govt hospital is not that bad, if you really have financial issue or want to save, ppum & hukm is a good place too
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 15 2012, 09:58 PM)
thanks.. but what is DSH?
Monthly checkup at UM or PPUM? where is UMSC and UMMC? Sorry .. 1st time dont know the short term.


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where is tungshin? how much and what is the procedure dr. chua going to do?
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Damansare Specialist Hospital lor... in TTDI.

UMSC and UMMC is located in Jalan Universiti. Same place, different building.
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post Apr 15 2012, 10:30 PM

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thanks guys.. will check all the info .. smile.gif really appreciate it
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post Apr 15 2012, 11:43 PM

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My gynae is Dr.Neoh in Damansara Specialist Hosp. His monthly check-up charges is around RM150 (consultation + urine test + ultrasound scan). Then delivery was RM10,000++ via c-section and stayed in Premier ward for 4days.

It is true that Damansara Specialist Hosp is expensive but for me, am lucky that my company pay for the bills. That's why I choose to go to this hosp.
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QUOTE(RyoPi @ Apr 15 2012, 11:43 PM)
My gynae is Dr.Neoh in Damansara Specialist Hosp. His monthly check-up charges is around RM150 (consultation + urine test + ultrasound scan). Then delivery was RM10,000++ via c-section and stayed in Premier ward for 4days.

It is true that Damansara Specialist Hosp is expensive but for me, am lucky that my company pay for the bills. That's why I choose to go to this hosp.
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if my wife company also i will go to the MOST expensive lor.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 15 2012, 05:37 PM)
Hi..
i just found out my wife pregnant 7 weeks yesterday.. this is our 1st child..
Anybody can recommend good klinik and dont cekik people $$$ cause i dont have a lot now ...
What is the procedure and how much for 1st checkup and after ...

Im considering private Hospital like KPJ or SJMC but i want to know either GOVT Hospital is good or not ...
This is my 1st child so i want to give the best if can .. and comfort for my wife ...

If anybody know any good clinic please be kind to give me the name and contact ...  icon_question.gif
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Hi...
i am using my husband account...
i am currently preggy wif my 1st child too..

understand ur dilemma....
after considering a lot factors..

we have choose KPJ damansara which is oso DSH (damansara specialist centre) at TTDI.. right opposite TTDI market...
under doctor Neoh Hock Sun.. i think is his name la..

1st visit around RM 150..
2nd visit and later is around RM 95..
tat time i do the blood test + down syndrome risk test.. around RM 300..

reason of choosing..
we are staying at 1U tat area..
is convenient for us to go over there..
quite reputable doctor..
is within our money budget...

so choose a place u r comfortable wif...
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:51 AM

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Since you stay at PJ area, I can recommend you to go for FMGC at JayaOne. There are several doctors there, the famous 1 will be Dr Raman. The patients he normally handled is those with complication or elderly age.

But my wife goes for Dr. Yap who is a lady gynae. Each consultation fee is about RM120. From my experience, she is a caring doctor, and very patience. So, you can consider either 1 of the doctors.


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im considering Pusrawi Hospital in Kota Damansara.
Anybody knows how is it there ...
1st checkup ive been told around rm150 also.. next checkup will be below rm100 ..

Price for deliver is around 2k ...
Pusrawi is a private hospital.. and my wife choose it.. so if anybody know about their reputation maybe can help ..
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 16 2012, 03:51 PM)
im considering Pusrawi Hospital in Kota Damansara.
Anybody knows how is it there ...
1st checkup ive been told around rm150 also.. next checkup will be below rm100 ..

Price for deliver is around 2k ...
Pusrawi is a private hospital.. and my wife choose it.. so if anybody know about their reputation maybe can help ..
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My son was born in Pusrawi Kota Damansara..i wanted to go thre b'coz they hav a female O & G..name's Dr. Zarina.
Juz went there for 3 check up bfore admit..for monthly check up i went to KK in Kelana Jaya tongue.gif

Dr. Zarina..when i first met her..she has this 'no nonsense' face put up with me evrytime i went for check up..scary shocking.gif

Then evrything change wheni was admit..
I was admitted at 11pm..she arrived around 1am & stayed in the hosp till i when i labor around 4am.
She was by my side from 6am (after subuh prayer) till my boy came out around 9am rclxub.gif

She's surprisingly calm & pro..very motherly..not pushy at all. My son has to be vacum out coz he's suffocating & mommy no power to push d cry.gif

Total expenses RM 2100.
Room with one bed & own bathroom..staff soo friendly & helpful. My family can come visit anytime..no matter how many they are (my husband has 8 sibling).

Overall..go for it..i'm satisfied with their services thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Aqidah @ Apr 17 2012, 01:36 PM)
My son was born in Pusrawi Kota Damansara..i wanted to go thre b'coz they hav a female O & G..name's Dr. Zarina.
Juz went there for 3 check up bfore admit..for monthly check up i went to KK in Kelana Jaya  tongue.gif

Dr. Zarina..when i first met her..she has this 'no nonsense' face put up with me evrytime i went for check up..scary  shocking.gif

Then evrything change wheni was admit..
I was admitted at 11pm..she arrived around 1am & stayed in the hosp till i when i labor around 4am.
She was by my side from 6am (after subuh prayer) till my boy came out around 9am  rclxub.gif

She's surprisingly calm & pro..very motherly..not pushy at all. My son has to be vacum out coz he's suffocating & mommy no power to push d  cry.gif

Total expenses RM 2100.
Room with one bed & own bathroom..staff soo friendly & helpful. My family can come visit anytime..no matter how many they are (my husband has 8 sibling).

Overall..go for it..i'm satisfied with their services  thumbup.gif
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Dear Aqidah,

Yupe, i choose Dr Zarina also.. and yupe her face like no feeling at all.. but i know by the way she talk she is motherly smile.gif
I also choose Pusrawi after heard couple of my friends said over there better.. better than DSC actually.. heheh!! the nurse also quite friendly ...

1st checkup with med+scan is rm75 .. ok la .. not over rm100.. I already registered my wife to deliver there.. They said atleast 2 check up need to be done there.

The price for deliver already been change since 1st April .. For single bed is rm2300 / 2 bed is rm2200 .. but if want 2 bed and only we stay .. its going to be rm2320 ... My friend said early this year she deliver there and the package is only rm1.7 or rm1.8k i think.. Maybe because the petrol hike they need to hike also.. heheh!! I dont mind paying a little extra (as long not 8k like KPJ rclxub.gif ) as long my wife and child are safe smile.gif

For Pusrawi .. i really recommend other's who want go to Private Hospital but cheaper .. and also nice and professional.
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 17 2012, 06:47 PM)
Dear Aqidah,

Yupe, i choose Dr Zarina also.. and yupe her face like no feeling at all.. but i know by the way she talk she is motherly smile.gif
I also choose Pusrawi after heard couple of my friends said over there better.. better than DSC actually.. heheh!! the nurse also quite friendly ...

1st checkup with med+scan is rm75 .. ok la .. not over rm100.. I already registered my wife to deliver there.. They said atleast 2 check up need to be done there.

The price for deliver already been change since 1st April .. For single bed is rm2300 / 2 bed is rm2200 .. but if want 2 bed and only we stay .. its going to be rm2320 ... My friend said early this year she deliver there and the package is only rm1.7 or rm1.8k i think.. Maybe because the petrol hike they need to hike also.. heheh!! I dont mind paying a little extra (as long not 8k like KPJ  rclxub.gif ) as long my wife and child are safe smile.gif

For Pusrawi .. i really recommend other's who want go to Private Hospital but cheaper .. and also nice and professional.
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I was not clear bout the bed issue when admitted..
If u want 2 bed in a room..u have to book early. Thts y i end up with single bed / private room biggrin.gif
Prefer not to share with a'one since my first delivery..not sure what to expect.

Staff downstair is ok la..so-so only.. But the one upstair..incharge of labor & nursery..they work like pro thumbup.gif

If ur wife's with Dr. Zarina Bebe..she's in a gud hand..not to worry. Her EDD usually very precise nod.gif
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QUOTE(Aqidah @ Apr 18 2012, 02:22 PM)
I was not clear bout the bed issue when admitted..
If u want 2 bed in a room..u have to book early. Thts y i end up with single bed / private room  biggrin.gif
Prefer not to share with a'one since my first delivery..not sure what to expect.

Staff downstair is ok la..so-so only.. But the one upstair..incharge of labor & nursery..they work like pro  thumbup.gif

If ur wife's with Dr. Zarina Bebe..she's in a gud hand..not to worry. Her EDD usually very precise  nod.gif
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Edd can be calculated wht provided u give coRrect history of ur menstrual cycle.

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QUOTE(thadd88 @ Apr 19 2012, 04:14 PM)
Edd can be calculated wht provided u give coRrect history of ur menstrual cycle.
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True..but when lil one wanna come out..no one can predict precisely one..we can prepare ourself for the estimated day but always be alert one week before due date biggrin.gif

I was caught offguard coz my lil boy almost a week late from EDD blush.gif

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QUOTE(Aqidah @ Apr 19 2012, 06:08 PM)
True..but when lil one wanna come out..no one can predict precisely one..we can prepare ourself for the estimated day but always be alert one week before due date  biggrin.gif

I was caught offguard coz my lil boy almost a week late from EDD  blush.gif
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Since its ur first pregnancy then. I guess its alright. Usually those with gdm and pih would need to be ready by 36 week and normally they would induce the mother to labour. If by 40 weeks still have not pop the little friend.. Tht one u relli need to concern.

To those new mothes.. Do breastfeed your baby for at least 6 months up to 2-3 years. Husband pls be supportive to your wife.

Last Bt not least.. Check for your baby if gt jaundice and followup for your child immunisation scedule.

All the best!!
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QUOTE(thadd88 @ Apr 19 2012, 11:07 PM)
Since its ur first pregnancy then. I guess its alright. Usually those with gdm and pih would need to be ready by 36 week and normally they would induce the mother to labour. If by 40 weeks still have not pop the little friend.. Tht  one u relli need to concern.

To those new mothes.. Do breastfeed your baby for at least 6 months up to 2-3 years. Husband pls be supportive to your wife.
Last Bt not least.. Check for your baby if gt jaundice and followup for your child immunisation scedule.

All the best!!
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Yeayy..! I couldnt agree more..my son is almost 5mnth & still fully BF rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 15 2012, 05:37 PM)
Hi..
i just found out my wife pregnant 7 weeks yesterday.. this is our 1st child..
Anybody can recommend good klinik and dont cekik people $$$ cause i dont have a lot now ...
What is the procedure and how much for 1st checkup and after ...

Im considering private Hospital like KPJ or SJMC but i want to know either GOVT Hospital is good or not ...
This is my 1st child so i want to give the best if can .. and comfort for my wife ...

If anybody know any good clinic please be kind to give me the name and contact ...  icon_question.gif
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Congratulation! Bro

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QUOTE(kaneshi @ Apr 16 2012, 11:51 AM)
Since you stay at PJ area, I can recommend you to go for FMGC at JayaOne. There are several doctors there, the famous 1 will be Dr Raman. The patients he normally handled is those with complication or elderly age.

But my wife goes for Dr. Yap who is a lady gynae. Each consultation fee is about RM120. From my experience, she is a caring doctor, and very patience. So, you can consider either 1 of the doctors.
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Kaneshi: can u provide more info? i called to the clinic and they said Dr Yap will refer Pantai Hospital Bangsar for delivery... will this be expensive too? pls share? thank you...

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QUOTE(emilyisme @ Apr 20 2012, 05:14 PM)
Kaneshi: can u provide more info? i called to the clinic and they said Dr Yap will refer Pantai Hospital Bangsar for delivery... will this be expensive too? pls share? thank you...
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Try PUSRAWI .. even 1st checkup meds and scan is rm75 .. for me its ok.. if KPJ rm150 ..
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Congratulations for your baby in advance. make sure you get her to the best ob gyn smile.gif
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Congratulations for your baby in advance. make sure you get her to the best ob gyn smile.gif
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QUOTE(emilyisme @ Apr 20 2012, 05:14 PM)
Kaneshi: can u provide more info? i called to the clinic and they said Dr Yap will refer Pantai Hospital Bangsar for delivery... will this be expensive too? pls share? thank you...
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Well, my wife has not delivered yet. But, I heard Pantai Bangsar cost a bomb with adequate (so~so) services.
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Anyone have any experience with kpj ampang puteri. I plan to deliver my first baby there
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QUOTE(cattylove @ Apr 30 2012, 11:19 AM)
Anyone have any experience with kpj ampang puteri. I plan to deliver my first baby there
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i think for any KPJ is ok .. cause the $$$ is quite high.. my friend also planning deliver at KPJ Shah Alam .. but due to his wife have PM Care Insurans from CIMB its all FREE smile.gif
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Firstly congratulations, and let me share my experience with you.

Both of my sons were delivered at Pantai Cheras because that's the hospital that the gynae would operate. He however has an own clinic in Connaught.

Reason for us to choose him is because, Pantai Cheras is consider near to my house and he's recommended by my wife's colleague and she's quite confortable with the gynae. All comes down to personal preference as well because some would go for a good gynae (like one in Gleneagles) but doing the monthly checkup or even going in for labour might proves to be a challenge.

Imagine when your wife is in labour in the middle of the day, the traffic jam around KL will affect the labour process. But of course all that can be prevented if preparations is made beforehand.

When my 1st son was born, we weren't sure whether she's having contraction or not in the middle of the night so we wait and wait, until the pain is unbearable then only she decided to go to the hospital. And my son pops out just 20 minutes after reaching hospital, so we really thank god that it's in the wee hours in the morning and the traffic was still alright.

So it's really depends at the end of the day, these are some of the choices that both you and your wife will need to make.
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 15 2012, 05:37 PM)
Hi..
i just found out my wife pregnant 7 weeks yesterday.. this is our 1st child..
Anybody can recommend good klinik and dont cekik people $$$ cause i dont have a lot now ...
What is the procedure and how much for 1st checkup and after ...

Im considering private Hospital like KPJ or SJMC but i want to know either GOVT Hospital is good or not ...
This is my 1st child so i want to give the best if can .. and comfort for my wife ...

If anybody know any good clinic please be kind to give me the name and contact ...  icon_question.gif
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I can't really say which is the best but for sure when it comes to facility Private institution provides best but with Doctors.. I can never tell..
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Next 15th will go for 2nd check up at Pusrawi Kota Damansara .. fuh .. 2 month++ already .. currently no problem biggrin.gif
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Well my wife is expecting twins and is our first. As budget is s constraint we opted for gov hospital. We are quite comfortable with the doctors. Hope all goes well when delivery time comes
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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 14 2012, 08:04 AM)
Well my wife is expecting twins and is our first. As budget is s constraint we opted for gov hospital. We are quite comfortable with the doctors. Hope all goes well when delivery time comes
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QUOTE(wintzen @ May 4 2012, 08:32 PM)
Firstly congratulations, and let me share my experience with you.

Both of my sons were delivered at Pantai Cheras because that's the hospital that the gynae would operate. He however has an own clinic in Connaught.

Reason for us to choose him is because, Pantai Cheras is consider near to my house and he's recommended by my wife's colleague and she's quite confortable with the gynae. All comes down to personal preference as well because some would go for a good gynae (like one in Gleneagles) but doing the monthly checkup or even going in for labour might proves to be a challenge.

Imagine when your wife is in labour in the middle of the day, the traffic jam around KL will affect the labour process. But of course all that can be prevented if preparations is made beforehand.

When my 1st son was born, we weren't sure whether she's having contraction or not in the middle of the night so we wait and wait, until the pain is unbearable then only she decided to go to the hospital. And my son pops out just 20 minutes after reaching hospital, so we really thank god that it's in the wee hours in the morning and the traffic was still alright.

So it's really depends at the end of the day, these are some of the choices that both you and your wife will need to make.
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Hi, may i know whats the name of the gynae in paintai cheras? i've check out their website.. apparantly theres more than 10 gynae there rclxub.gif

appreciate it !
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Next Week is 5 months already =)
eldcyc
post Dec 22 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(kaneshi @ Apr 16 2012, 11:51 AM)
Since you stay at PJ area, I can recommend you to go for FMGC at JayaOne. There are several doctors there, the famous 1 will be Dr Raman. The patients he normally handled is those with complication or elderly age.

But my wife goes for Dr. Yap who is a lady gynae. Each consultation fee is about RM120. From my experience, she is a caring doctor, and very patience. So, you can consider either 1 of the doctors.
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can i know your wife deliver cost...?
damario1928
post Mar 9 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Apr 20 2012, 07:40 PM)
Try PUSRAWI .. even 1st checkup meds and scan is rm75 .. for me its ok.. if KPJ rm150 ..
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Hi..wanna check if non bumi can consult there?
TSekudz
post Mar 9 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(damario1928 @ Mar 9 2015, 01:48 PM)
Hi..wanna check if non bumi can consult there?
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can .. no problem .. but better google klinik kesihatan kota damansara .. scan machine much clearer and cheap around rm30 no med ..
the doctor name is Dr Sri .. very nice smile.gif
damario1928
post Mar 15 2015, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Mar 9 2015, 03:14 PM)
can .. no problem .. but better google klinik kesihatan kota damansara .. scan machine much clearer and cheap around rm30 no med ..
the doctor name is Dr Sri .. very nice smile.gif
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r3apers
post Mar 16 2015, 10:17 AM

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mostly i send my wife to Tmn Megah there, a clinic by Dr Rajan, he's friendly... but follow up its under hospital already...

 

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