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Proton Preve is not a global car but cut cost car, You must read this before you buy Preve
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mr_boonez
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 Apr 15 2012, 07:19 AM
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halo brader. it's just different in manufacturing process.
there's two ways to make the doors.
either stamp the whole door outer/inner shape in one piece (BLM, Persona, Exora)..or
only the bottom lower part + door sash, which require welding during assembly (Waja, Preve)
go learn about manufacturing first la before trolling preve buyers with this ridiculous issue.
both of this assembly process doesn't affect safety. because the main point on safety is the impact bar inside the door panels. All this already done simulation la bro and also crash tested in Spain.
btw, the one cck125 highlight in the Inspira is called TWB panels.
Tailor Welded Blanking. Proton started using that method since BLM for the front and rear door panels. Also in Exora & Preve. This method is used worldwide to reduce process cost because less welding process required at assembly line. The panel already came welded by the steel supplier before stamping. Widely used in Honda, Toyota and also european car makers.
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mr_boonez
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Apr 15 2012, 07:31 AM
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 so based on TS superior knowledge on door welding points + safety... i guess this car also not safe..because no door sash.... langgar terus mati..  maybe TS should organize demo to Mansuh welding point!  |
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mr_boonez
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Apr 15 2012, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 15 2012, 09:24 AM) I get what TS is trying to say, he mean that the Preve welding joint do not welded properly until you can see tiny hole , which in welding field, when sending for x-ray check, those welding must be rejected, Proton can accept this kind of welding and call it as a global car. I think to be fair, we should go to Proton showroom to look at it ourself, rather than keep bashing TS when he is only trying to tell us something isn't right for the new model Proton, we can see the Inspira photo, those welding is the right one, won't have so call tiny hole. Any car, no matter it is from BMW, Mercedes..., there must some parts of welding joint for the car doors, just how they going to weld the joint, this is the matter most. nope.. he was directly comparing Preve door with BLM & Persona. Meaning he was comparing the different door assembly type. Saga + Persona got no welding line because its a 1 piece door panel. Meanwhile Preve & also the WAJA uses Door Lower + Door Sash assembly type. |
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mr_boonez
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Apr 15 2012, 03:16 PM
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Penat aku explain door sash + door panel punya assembly...TS ni malas nak baca ke. BMW pun pakai door sash la weh
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mr_boonez
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Apr 15 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 15 2012, 03:19 PM) TS have seen the car ma. Have you? If you havent then better be quiet lor  Already sit in the car la bro..I wrote already in the main preve thread |
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