Just because of that its a lousy car? Wow

why din take picture ?

now i only knew the safety level of the car can measure by EYE one.....
but how come manufacturer waste so many money to go through NCAP test leh....  
because those judge can use eye to SEE those welding and value the car how many start already...   

Are you working for Toyota (Vios division) or Honda (City division) ?

I'm a Malaysian. You must a singaporean. kiasu. lol.

dear TS, i have not seen the car, but if you say so i will take not on this, But could you show a clearer picture what you mean by welding Joints.

i noob in metal industry. anyway to find out is to buy one car and crash test it side ways, head on and so on.

thanks for the sharing, maybe could show us more supportive material?

i bet he must be trying so fukken hard searching every inch of the car...

I am not going to buy Prevé but a Persona or a Wira because it is better and safety, and it is not a global car.

Ok.

guys, TS is only pointing out what he saw on the car, although there are some bashing, but all in all we should thank TS and go see it ourselves.  there are no point arguing it here.  so MOD PLS CLOSE THIS THREAD

are u sure it is a welding or whatever it is.
some panels has been 'welded' together using synthetic glue which is meant to join the panels together.

i believe preve will have a high edge in cost cutting, whihc is normal. but the welding alone wont cost too much. just for the joint itself i might be because of other circumstances it has to be done in this method.

u need to check other makes to prove the point.

Mind asking does the BMW 3 series has world class welding as well?

it is if u don't know what the hell u r talking about   no offense

Mind asking does the BMW 3 series has world class welding as well?

mana gambar, pondan.

WTF? I am certain the Preve will be safer than most Japanese ASEAN spec cars (the Avanza does as bad as the Gen2/Persona). Who cares about the welding joints in the door. To me that's just cosmetic, thus irrelevant. Will the car do well in crash tests? That's what counts. How are the materials they have used? You can't see that.

Of course if you can explain to me WHY visible welding joints are of any importance then I may change my mind. The welding can be of good quality (and how else are you going to connect the parts? You wouldn't want to use the same steel for the whole door, because you'd either use low quality materials which won't withstand anything or you'd use high quality steel, which probably has other problems, such as costs or weight. It seems like they have added a side impact bar to protect the passengers).

Seriously, chill and wait for ANCAP results. Then we shall see if what Proton promises is true.

Bro, u trying to say there is a spot weld on the door that is weaken the door rigidity??

Bro, u trying to say there is a spot weld on the door that is weaken the door rigidity??

Hahahahhaha so takut welded parts kah?

if you strip down the car and look at how many parts of your chassis are welded together, you will probably never want to sit in a car ever again.

Just for your info, the Waja had the stiffest chassis in proton's line of products, more than a volvo S40. The preve chassis is specced to be even stiffer than the waja.

lol...those are safety features la..even the mitsubishi lancer has it. it is the part where 2 different metal strength are used.

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Added on April 15, 2012, 6:45 amfrom inspira

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Added on April 15, 2012, 6:46 am

this answers everything and everyone learns something new today.

say thank you to mitsubishi for having this in user manual, and yes, proton is bad because they never include this in their manual, thus making TS very very concerned and confused.