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 The Weight Loss Thread v3, Ask your weight loss questions here.

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GameFr3ak
post Feb 20 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(MANSTIR @ Feb 20 2014, 09:54 AM)
its not just vibrating, its kinda shaking your muscles... click this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/m..._n_2140397.html

movements on muscles kill those fats.. its not about heat and flow of your sweat..
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It is vibrating what. Be it shaking or vibrating, your body will tense up your stabilizer muscles and core to resist the tiny movement. From my extensive reading on fat lost, the best way to lose fat is of course through diet, followed by cardiovascular exercises which raises the heart rate. Weight training which also burns fat, does not work as well as cardio.

Even if you perform cardio exercises, you would have to clear up your glycogen storage before your body start tapping in to get more energy. This is still depending on what you've ate that day. It also takes a lot of effort to deplete your glycogen storage let alone standing there resisting vibrations.

As far as I know, there's no shortcut around this. One must take the effort to make a difference or one could just have a caloric deficit in their diet.

I didn't mention anything about heat and sweat flow, unsure why you'd say that.

edit: I'm not saying that you're not gonna burn a single fat cell with this, I'm saying that it's really a ineffective way of doing it. One can simply perform jumping jacks or some other bodyweight exercises to do an even better job with a shorter amount of time needed.

This post has been edited by GameFr3ak: Feb 20 2014, 10:32 AM
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(MANSTIR @ Feb 20 2014, 09:54 AM)
its not just vibrating, its kinda shaking your muscles... click this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/m..._n_2140397.html

movements on muscles kill those fats.. its not about heat and flow of your sweat..
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Are you being serious?
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 20 2014, 10:29 AM)
It is vibrating what. Be it shaking or vibrating, your body will tense up your stabilizer muscles and core to resist the tiny movement. From my extensive reading on fat lost, the best way to lose fat is of course through diet, followed by cardiovascular exercises which raises the heart rate. Weight training which also burns fat, does not work as well as cardio.

Even if you perform cardio exercises, you would have to clear up your glycogen storage before your body start tapping in to get more energy. This is still depending on what you've ate that day. It also takes a lot of effort to deplete your glycogen storage let alone standing there resisting vibrations.

As far as I know, there's no shortcut around this. One must take the effort to make a difference or one could just have a caloric deficit in their diet.

I didn't mention anything about heat and sweat flow, unsure why you'd say that.
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bro, you read a lot that's why you confusing. which is true and some a reality.

in this real world, our body need movement to circulate blood to vessel and etc.. simple explanations not require us to burn fats.. just do any exercise regularly..

this is why many of us (include me on) keep saying their fat not loosen any.

the answer is "doing it regularly"....

p/s - even a horse need to walk everyday to maintain their healthy life..
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:34 AM)
Are you being serious?
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count me on....
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(MANSTIR @ Feb 20 2014, 10:42 AM)
bro, you read a lot that's why you confusing. which is true and some a reality.

in this real world, our body need movement to circulate blood to vessel and etc.. simple explanations not require us to burn fats.. just do any exercise regularly..

this is why many of us (include me on) keep saying their fat not loosen any.

the answer is "doing it regularly"....

p/s - even a horse need to walk everyday to maintain their healthy life..
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I'm actually just confused about what you're saying. I thought we're posting in a weight loss tread? Isn't fat lost the goal for everyone here? I guess you're trying to say movement promotes blood circulation, yes this is true. But why wouldn't you just .. move? I mean jumping jacks, rope skipping etc doesn't require you to be in a gym.

And if you're not eating correctly, whatever you do, you won't lose fat.

But I gave up already la. Since you're dead on about this.
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 20 2014, 10:53 AM)
I'm actually just confused about what you're saying. I thought we're posting in a weight loss tread? Isn't fat lost the goal for everyone here? I guess you're trying to say movement promotes blood circulation, yes this is true. But why wouldn't you just .. move? I mean jumping jacks, rope skipping etc doesn't require you to be in a gym.

And if you're not eating correctly, whatever you do, you won't lose fat.

But I gave up already la. Since you're dead on about this.
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Ok, never mind. I dont mind people arguing my points. I know what i do. The rest is yours.


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post Feb 20 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(MANSTIR @ Feb 20 2014, 08:49 AM)
2 kg.. from 86kg to 84kg..
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The question is whether you can lose 2 kg of fat (excluding water) in a month with this machine.


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post Feb 20 2014, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 20 2014, 11:27 AM)
The question is whether you can lose 2 kg of fat (excluding water) in a month with this machine.
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2 kilos of weight, yes i know to count.

But

2 kilos of FAT, hahaha how u measure all that.?

Funny questions but interesting. Hahaha
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post Feb 20 2014, 12:51 PM

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I just need to flatten my stomach since I'm buncit liao. So far all i've been doing is evening jogs with push ups, sit ups and pull ups. Basic stuff

Any other exercise suggestion for me to flatten my belly?
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post Feb 20 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Artic Monkeys @ Feb 20 2014, 12:51 PM)
I just need to flatten my stomach since I'm buncit liao. So far all i've been doing is evening jogs with push ups, sit ups and pull ups. Basic stuff

Any other exercise suggestion for me to flatten my belly?
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you cannot spot reduce. but if you are lucky, it will target that place first! hahah. the exercise is good, but you need to focus on what you are eating, more than your exercise. .

1 cup of rice (200-250 cals) = 15-20 minutes of jogging

So, the most efficient would be to manage both diet and exercise, within reason.



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post Feb 20 2014, 05:17 PM

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Im 26 y o guy, 183cm and weigh 115 kg. I started running+brisk walking workout for 50min x 6 days a week. now already 2 weeks doing it. And also weightlifting/pumping/push up for 15 mins 3 to 4 times a week.

Breakfast: two slice of bread+ tuna and tea.
Lunch: a small portion of rice (1/2 cup) for lunch with some meat (chicken, fish etc) +vege
Dinner: Chicken/fish + salad/other vege

Am i doing it right? My target is achieving around 90kg in 3months. Any advice from u guys? thanks.
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post Feb 21 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(franco87 @ Feb 20 2014, 05:17 PM)
Im 26 y o guy, 183cm and weigh 115 kg. I started running+brisk walking workout for 50min x 6 days a week. now already 2 weeks doing it. And also weightlifting/pumping/push up for 15 mins 3 to 4 times a week.

Breakfast: two slice of bread+ tuna and tea.
Lunch: a small portion of rice (1/2 cup) for lunch with some meat (chicken, fish etc) +vege
Dinner: Chicken/fish + salad/other vege

Am i doing it right? My target is achieving around 90kg in 3months. Any advice from u guys? thanks.
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firstly. i think your target is unrealistic. possible. but very very difficult. if in two months you've lost 15 kg which is a great achievement. but havent reached your goal you might just give up in the end. or something like that.

my advise to you is sign up on myfitnesspal.com and go from there.
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post Feb 21 2014, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Feb 21 2014, 09:30 AM)
firstly. i think your target is unrealistic. possible. but very very difficult. if in two months you've lost 15 kg which is a great achievement. but havent reached your goal you might just give up in the end. or something like that.

my advise to you is sign up on myfitnesspal.com and go from there.
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Thanks for the help. Can i still eat rice? I mean its it ok to eat just a quarter plate of rice at lunch only?
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post Feb 23 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(franco87 @ Feb 21 2014, 12:54 PM)
Thanks for the help. Can i still eat rice? I mean its it ok to eat just a quarter plate of rice at lunch only?
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for me, im a follower of IIFYM (if it fits your macros). so eat whatever you want. but in moderation. but generally a diet lower in carb is easier as carbs take up quite a lot of your caloric intake.
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post Feb 23 2014, 10:47 PM

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that caloric deficit is it fine if cut my calories form bmr? for example my bmr is 1737 and i cut around 20 so it goes 1348. is it fine?
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Feb 23 2014, 10:47 PM)
that caloric deficit is it fine if cut my calories form bmr? for example my bmr is 1737 and i cut around 20 so it goes 1348. is it fine?
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you should be cutting from your TDEE not from your BMR.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Feb 24 2014, 05:24 PM)
you should be cutting from your TDEE not from your BMR.
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Well, from the video he says cut your caloric deficit from BMR?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Feb 20 2014, 10:53 AM)
I'm actually just confused about what you're saying. I thought we're posting in a weight loss tread? Isn't fat lost the goal for everyone here? I guess you're trying to say movement promotes blood circulation, yes this is true. But why wouldn't you just .. move? I mean jumping jacks, rope skipping etc doesn't require you to be in a gym.

And if you're not eating correctly, whatever you do, you won't lose fat.

But I gave up already la. Since you're dead on about this.
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Yo GameFr3ak, I'm surprised you spent so much of your time, trying to explain, its just not worth it.

There is no facts backing his explanation, hence, its simply ineffective.

Unless he can back his statement with facts, stop the fallacy here. Thanks.

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post Feb 24 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Feb 24 2014, 08:23 PM)
Yo GameFr3ak, I'm surprised you spent so much of your time, trying to explain, its just not worth it.

There is no facts backing his explanation, hence, its simply ineffective.

Unless he can back his statement with facts, stop the fallacy here. Thanks.
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Yeah, I learned this the hard way...won't gonna waste my time no more
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post Feb 25 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Feb 24 2014, 08:06 PM)

Well, from the video he says cut your caloric deficit from BMR?
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didnt watch the video. because if you do a quick search, you will know it is wrong to cut from BMR.

here is the definition for you and you can decide what to cut from.

Basal metabolic rate (BMR), and the closely related resting metabolic rate (RMR), is the amount of energy expended daily by humans and other animals at rest. Rest is defined as existing in a neutrally temperate environment while in the post-absorptive state. In plants, different considerations apply.
The release, and using, of energy in this state is sufficient only for the functioning of the vital organs, the heart, lungs, nervous system, kidneys, liver, intestine, sex organs, muscles, and skin.

TDEE is the common abbreviation for Total Daily Energy Expenditure which is a metric to calculate the amount of calories your body needs to function in a day. This is quite similar to BMR; in fact, you need your BMR to calculate your TDEE; but your TDEE accounts for your average daily activity as well to give a figure truer to your specific situation.

edit : deleted youtube video link.

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