i still cant get you, what i need to know whether mine is the fake or not

When you start losing a gram of muscle a week.

Or.... you can try e mailing their customer relations offices.

lol some people don't get sarcasm.

What's sarcasm?

will do. and thx for the reply. will try to monitor the muscle.

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/p...lder-p-277.html

Anyone taking or had these before? I would like to hear some reviews regarding this How does it compare with ON 100% gold standard? There's 5g of creatine in it too but since this is a post workout wouldn't it be a waste?

Overrated nonsense.

if u have the money to buy the word 'platinum', go ahead.
othewise, normal protein works just as well.
it's all marketing gimmick.

Exactly. Whey when eaten between meals has almost the same digestion rate as casein. Whey, mixed with fiber, has almost the same digestion rate as casein.

so can we take physilium husk and whey before we sleep ?

eh so is there point buying a blend > wpi

Ok got it guys. So if I have ON gold, nitrotech hardcore & dymatize elite whey, which one should I take? All 3 gives around 24-25g in similar serving sizes.

The cheaper one or the one that tastes better to you.

Possible for my balls to produce higher than the average test levels? Like a mild steroid effect except induced by my body itself or there's a cap to natural test production?

No, i don't think so. Test booster will only boost till your body's maximum natural level of test. Won't go any higher than the natural rate unless its roids.

are all the pure creatine monohydrate having the same properties regardless of brands? i have muscletech creatine mono, its so hard to dilute well into water but better wit warmer water, does the temp affects efficiency?

its a protein blend that pack together with a creatine plus betaine,
that are the reason y it is a bit expansive to other due to the extra stuff that it have imside.

I've tried this betaine stuff it does increase my metabolic rate. and muscle feel pump even not doing any exercise on my rest day.>>>

What is Betaine?

Betaine is a naturally occurring chemical found in the stomach that helps in breaking up fats and proteins. It is a metabolite of choline, and is also known as trimethylglycine. Foods that are high in betaine content include sugar beets, spinach, shellfish and wheat. Betaine is important for the proper function of the heart and blood vessels.

Benefits of Betaine

Betaine is beneficial for a number of conditions and diseases, including heart disease and liver disease. This chemical also helps prevent build up of the amino acid homocysteine, which can harm blood vessels and contribute to stroke.

Betaine also benefits weight loss, because of its effect on metabolism. It helps to preserve muscle tissue during weight loss, because it is an osmolyte and methyl donor. What this means is that it is beneficial for maintaining cell hydration and volume, as well as fluid balance.

Betaine Weight Loss

Betaine's role in weight loss is more of a preservation of muscle tissue. Many people lose muscle tone and develop flab when on a weight loss diet.

Betaine is involved in biochemical reactions in the body, and it helps in detoxifying. It also helps generate creatine and other important muscle building compounds.

Betaine Supplement

The daily addition of a betaine supplement is beneficial for people who are prone to heart or liver disease. Because of the role it plays in preventing the build up of homocysteine, betaine is recommended for anyone with cardiovascular problems such as high cholesterol and high blood pressure.

The use of a betaine supplement is particularly important for weight loss. This compound helps in retaining muscle tone while detoxifying the body by flushing out the fat cells.

Protein is protein.
NT is expensive because of the addition of creatine as well.
If u want creatine, buy it separately. they add for u and probably charge additional cost much more than separate creatine would cost u.
Gaspari has added probiotic into their new myofusion.
Good? Yea.
Necessary? No.
More is not always better.

This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Sep 3 2012, 09:04 PM

More or less the same, unless the product contains fillers/other ingredients, in which case you can't really know for sure how much creatine you're getting per serving.

I'm gonna get myself dymatize elite whey for daily use and platinum hydrobuilder for post workouts with my marathon training and see if there'll be any obvious improvements since it has like 30g protein, 13.5g bcaa, 5g creapure, 2g beatine, micronized AA and enzymes in just one scoop