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tanch78
post Apr 26 2012, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 25 2012, 05:37 PM)
Dividend game play is like that one, sit there doing nothing, wait rabbit hit the tree.  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, Durian runtuh at the same when rabbit hit the tree!!!!

Cherroy taikor - my "sell" button also 99.99% destory liao. tongue.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 26 2012, 12:03 PM)
This is the very issue one have to address. Many say buy this and that. All also buy and 'no sell'. Unlimited funds? What about emergency money? Have one made adequate allocation for emergency money? What if allocation not enough?
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Just realised my posting (re. no sell button) this morning has trigger so many comments from forummers.

Let me clarify my position. Basically I am getting more "kian si + kian su" since 2010 as upgraded to old uncle status liao.

I invest mostly in fundamental stock (my own definition and I hope I am right) like Maxis, PBB, BKAWAN, Calberg, Nestle, etc and REITs counters. So far, they give constant dividend every year and capital appreciation as of today is significantly high! blush.gif These counters made up around 90-95% of my total stock portfolio. My previous experience was that I can sold these counters for a very good capital gain; but I will never able to find alternative investment that will give me the same constant dividend or similiar ROI.

But of course, my hand get itchy sometime. Therefore, I have bought some stock recommended by lyn forummer previously for medium term holding (6 - 18 holdings). Example like DRBHCOM, Tambun, Ivory, Smartag and a few more. Some I still suffered paper losses as of today! cry.gif

@ Boon, I have separate emergency fund in FD and A1SM/ASW funds. I only invest my extra / idle cash in shares and also reinvest using dividend receive every quarter. I have fully settled my housing loan at one go previously using my hard earn money saved while working oversea cry.gif , therefore now I have huge extra cash for investment every month (not limited to shares).

My plan is to review my stok counters performance (and other investment) every quarter. But to be honest, I am lazy most of the time and merely update the latest market price. I hardly follow and read every single post in this thread anymore. Just come here to chit chat once a while. I think I frequent kopitiam much more whenever I am free. Haha tongue.gif

I appreciate the contribution from some sifu like Cheorry, Sky, Moneymonkey, Pana and more people for their sharing. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 26 2012, 01:47 PM)
Never heard of 99% no sell button.  hmm.gif 

But 1% Golden in Bolehland  cold be damn powerful.

Even in MAS, 1 Golden share is more powerful than the rest.

BTW, for REITS , prices could be trading at top of the mountain too.
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Hello Sky - my problem is that if I sell off these counter for one off huge gain, I don't know what other counters/alternative investment to go for. And if they can give me the same ROI. Also you need lots of time/effort to analyse and monitor the stock counter. First I am lazy, second is I hardly have time to check out the stock during working hours most of the time.

I am now more on dividend play. Getting excited to see the dividend payment shows up in my bank account almost every month.

Oh, do you still hold Tambun??? Thanks to you recommendation last time, I got quite good profit from AFG + AFFIN! rclxm9.gif


Added on April 26, 2012, 2:01 pm
QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 26 2012, 01:52 PM)
I am rather sorry but please understand that my comments were not directed at you. I believe a 'no sell' strategy is risky. There are times where the only logical decision is to sell.
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No worries. Forum is place for sharing of info/advice as long as it is constructive posting.

But how do you know when is the right time to sell? Personally I don't monitor the stock every day due to my work commitment. I supposed to review all my investment status on a quarterly basis, BUT..... sweat.gif

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post Apr 26 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Apr 26 2012, 03:07 PM)
wow.. still v118
after fruit case, its really slow moving in here sweat.gif

anyway, i got a noob question to ask

lets assume Company A business is doing very well but no one buy its stock (volume 0)
can its share price increase because of its business performance alone?

rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Sorry, what about the fruit case? Which counter?
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post Apr 26 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Apr 26 2012, 03:09 PM)
wow! my drb dropped from 3.20 all the way to 2.30! that's almost 30% dropped. so dramatic.  cool2.gif
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I am still holding them.. Still waiting for TP 3.50 brows.gif
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post Apr 26 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 26 2012, 03:09 PM)
This one I have to 99% agree, buy and hold type.
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My personal preference is those good performance counters that pay constant and handsome dividend. But the problem is the share of this type of counters are very expensive now. The dividend yield is very low even though very generous dividend declared. ohmy.gif

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post Apr 26 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 26 2012, 03:10 PM)
If the business performance is good, as well as tons of cashflow that give handsome dividend.
It is a "pull" factor that will lure people to buy to own it.
Just like ant like sugar.  biggrin.gif
For eg.
Dlady after announced special dividend, many interested to buy, you don't need to promote and tell people to buy one, you don't need to scare no one buy.
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How do you define handsome dividend payout? dividend yield > 10%?
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post Apr 26 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Apr 26 2012, 03:18 PM)
you're so cool .  wub.gif  wub.gif
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I remember you, GregPG01!!!!

You were asking the question "DRB shareholder, are you happy with your share price today?" to lyn forummers on a daily basis when DRB shares prices surge sudden out of due to some take over/merger rumours 2/3 years back!!!!! Glad to see you back in this thread.


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post Apr 26 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 26 2012, 04:24 PM)
Classic example! Beauty of dividends & long term investment.  wub.gif
I did the same way, too.  blush.gif
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Hello Bunny - did you buy PERSTIM last time? Not sure if the dividend yield will be substainable for long term. I need to check out the latest timah price and the world forecast supply and demand first.

PS. can I ask for ang pow from you? I am "return"newcomer that bought some shares today! Hehe icon_idea.gif


Added on April 26, 2012, 4:36 pm
QUOTE(Icehart @ Apr 26 2012, 04:24 PM)
Yes I am.  laugh.gif
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Keeping cash in your HL trust fund will earn you higher interest than normal bank current/saving accounts!!! tongue.gif

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post Apr 27 2012, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 27 2012, 11:05 AM)
whoa ARMADA CW holders really cry like what Bone said

I just noticed ARMADA-CA fall so much. From 41c straight to 25c.  shocking.gif

Some may see it as opportunity for small knife cut big tree, tho.  rolleyes.gif
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Sometime at time of crisis, there is opportunity... drool.gif
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post Apr 27 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 27 2012, 04:26 PM)
Buy buy buy, today ala discount. Not everyday have one.  icon_idea.gif
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Yeah, go buy buy buy coz tomorrow milo, milk, beer, cigarattes will have good sales during Bersih sit-in protest!!!!!

Disclaimer: I have vested interst in those counter!!! tongue.gif


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post Apr 27 2012, 04:43 PM

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Conspirancy theory - may be super bull run next week after the Bersih 3.0!!!
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post Apr 27 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 27 2012, 04:43 PM)
1% sell button is powerful today hmm.gif
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I did not sell any shares la... Back to KL now for the long weekend holiday. Coming to forum to blow water lo... tongue.gif

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