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Meh, some subjects the graph go down so much.
Patut fail, but end up getting B.

I don't like. Especially those kampung faggots all bodoh2 wan. SPM straight As, get jpa, come uni and fail.
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passing mark for add maths is 16?!??!?!?!

lol no wonder la i passsssss lol
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QUOTE(Seager @ Apr 8 2012, 10:52 PM)
Meh, some subjects the graph go down so much.
Patut fail, but end up getting B.

I don't like. Especially those kampung faggots all bodoh2 wan. SPM straight As, get jpa, come uni and fail.
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All so ambitious want to become doctor/lawyer rclxms.gif
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wtf? science 35 is B? while religion needs 59? THE GOV NEEDS TO GET ITS FCUKING PRIORITIES RIGHT!!!
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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ Apr 8 2012, 10:57 PM)
All so ambitious want to become doctor/lawyer  rclxms.gif
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Mah arse la wei. I know so many in my campus first sem itself fail.
Other jpa scholars in my friends' uni also cukup2 makan gpa 2.0, but still under scholarship.
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post Apr 8 2012, 10:58 PM

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How i fail my sejarah when the passing mark is only 25? ffffuuu
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post Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM

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wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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QUOTE(Seager @ Apr 8 2012, 10:58 PM)
Mah arse la wei. I know so many in my campus first sem itself fail.
Other jpa scholars in my friends' uni also cukup2 makan gpa 2.0, but still under scholarship.
How la dei, how how?? doh.gif
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Dayum so serious? At least my batch isn't that bad.
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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:01 PM)
Dayum so serious? At least my batch isn't that bad.
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Of course there're some brilliant minds. But that's only like 10% of the total jpa + mara scholars.
The rest are just cukup2 makan always.
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Personally, i dont know how people can score below 60.

I think during my times, if ANYONE score below 65, consider fail already "gagal tahap sbp" it will show in RED.

i guess lucky. haha. all the sekolah harian and vernacular schools full of rempits and ah longs which helps sbp gets 100% straight A's =.=''
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QUOTE(rogrog @ Apr 8 2012, 10:58 PM)
How i fail my sejarah when the passing mark is only 25? ffffuuu
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not weird . my add match do 2 question only in paper 1 and anothe 1 question in paper 2 and pass e
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM)
wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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if u understand bell curve in the first place
you would know there are people who would understand it , and people who half understand and people who do not.

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QUOTE(Seager @ Apr 8 2012, 10:52 PM)
Meh, some subjects the graph go down so much.
Patut fail, but end up getting B.

I don't like. Especially those kampung faggots all bodoh2 wan. SPM straight As, get jpa, come uni and fail.
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relax guys we have to give some mercy to people who need it
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waffak 0 ppl failed!?
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post Apr 8 2012, 11:15 PM

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nola. i heard this is for school level only
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Apr 8 2012, 11:15 PM)
nola. i heard this is for school level only
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wtf school level? school level where got graph 1? whole class fail, fail lar.


last time my school level a1= 80 ... no questions asked.
and it's just a regular school. not some special school u need pmr >9000 to enter...

and btw why u all think graph so rendah means all those straight a1 = fake doh.gif



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Real or fake? i dunno  rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Dec 8 2011, 04:32 PM)
is actually for their school, not for the spm

anyway TS dont be so sad, be optimistic ^^ Good luck biggrin.gif
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47 A for science


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Where's Bahasa Cina???
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM)
wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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not everybody study add maths ba, mr. scholar...

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not everybody study add maths ba, mr. scholar...


normal distribution and reading the buku sifir i tot is normal mats ==
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 8 2012, 11:46 PM)
i say fake.
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Fake or not it doesn't matter. We all know the grading marks have been long manipulated just so the levels of student progress stay up
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QUOTE(SecretSuperStar @ Apr 9 2012, 12:14 AM)
Since when the A's got 3 categories?

A+ A A-  <--- for what? lol. ridiculous
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I got one question.... how do you actually grade Art? rclxub.gif
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haha,u guys just know about this? during my highschool at 90s my teacher told the class about this when teaching us about statistic..
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one picture and poof..
everyone believe that this is the real SPM grading scheme.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 9 2012, 12:25 AM)
I got one question.... how do you actually grade Art?  rclxub.gif
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Paper 1 or Paper 2?

For Paper 2, all the drawing papers are placed on the floor in a large area like a hall or a badminton court. Then 2 or 3 examiners will select the best drawings in order of grades. Selection of colour medium effects the grade given, e.g. water colour is the most difficult, hence eligable for higher grades as oppose to colour pencils.
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QUOTE(SecretSuperStar @ Apr 9 2012, 12:14 AM)
Since when the A's got 3 categories?

A+ A A-  <--- for what? lol. ridiculous
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:03 PM)
Personally, i dont know how people can score below 60.

I think during my times, if ANYONE score below 65, consider fail already "gagal tahap sbp" it will show in RED.

i guess lucky. haha. all the sekolah harian and vernacular schools full of rempits and ah longs which helps sbp gets 100% straight A's =.=''
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60 science can get A+, no wonder many ppl fight in uni for those courses.
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Whther this picture is real or fake, does not matter.

All we can be very sure of, is that every farking year, without fail, year in year out, we have more and more "straight A" students. So are passing rate.

Do you think each and every year students are getting smarter and smarter? Really? What's their advantage i wonder? They has internetz? is it because they keep on drinking Brands chicken essence everyday? Is it because of the milk they drink? Apalankeow DHA AA AHA so thats why exam also can get A?

Yeah right. Keep telling ourselves that. If you take the best spm student of 2011 and give him/her the MCE exam paper for 1970, i can guarantee you this "best student" will scratch his/her head until botak. Wanna bet?

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I can just simply print out this shit of paper anytime, u believe it?
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Isn't grades were based on the standard bell curve of students marks using a given formula?

Cambridge A-levels also used a familiar concept. There's no 'fix' marks for grades but will be adjusted based on performance of all candidates.
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Apr 9 2012, 11:48 AM)
Isn't grades were based on the standard bell curve of students marks using a given formula?

Cambridge A-levels also used a familiar concept. There's no 'fix' marks for grades but will be adjusted based on performance of all candidates.
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This is where the grading system is flawed. Too flexible. It should be fixed, to indicate and differentiate between those who are the cream of the crop, or one who is just able to get by.

One teacher who is strict in marking papers once told me : there are huge differences between a student who gets an A on 100 marks, compared to another who gets an A on 80 marks...
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM)
wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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yes they adjust the marks for the grade based on the bell curve
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This is where the grading system is flawed. Too flexible. It should be fixed, to indicate and differentiate between those who are the cream of the crop, or one who is just able to get by.

One teacher who is strict in marking papers once told me : there are huge differences between a student who gets an A on 100 marks, compared to another who gets an A on 80 marks...


have to disagree here. no one cares if you have 100 or 80 marks. if you got straight A, you will get lots of interviews for scholarship. THATS where a 80 marks and 100 marks person will differentiate itself.

Who needs a 100 marks person who never went to national levels in any sports or club activities, never become captain prefect, and never become ketua unit beruniform?

There are thousands of schools, that means we have thousands of head prefects, thousands of people in the national levels, and thouisands of ketua unit beruniform. If you cant even get this, then 100 marks also you dont deserve a scholarship.

The 80 marks person will deserve it more. This is where you hack the weed from the crop,
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not gonna happen...

http://malaysiakini.com/news/194502


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this is how minister of education ctrl the so call quality la. they did it every year. that's why every time also got "peningkatan". laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Seager @ Apr 8 2012, 10:52 PM)
Meh, some subjects the graph go down so much.
Patut fail, but end up getting B.

I don't like. Especially those kampung faggots all bodoh2 wan. SPM straight As, get jpa, come uni and fail.
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM)
wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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I understand the bell curve and I assume that they are normalizing the results obtained for that particular year. Nothing wrong with that, but if you take a look at the benchmarks that are set... it is just reflective of our education system and the quality of students that are being produced nowadays, shambles.
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But to be fair, the education systems in those western countries which we look up to so much to use as educational model for our schools are also facing the same dilemma of being so exam oriented as well these days

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17564311


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baru tau ke pasal ni?

dari sekolah lagi dah tahu kalau add math dapat 10 marks pun dah boleh lulus. aku yang selalu failed add math time test pun dapat b3 time spm yawn.gif
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QUOTE(lagenda @ Apr 9 2012, 01:30 PM)
baru tau ke pasal ni?

dari sekolah lagi dah tahu kalau add math dapat 10 marks pun dah boleh lulus. aku yang selalu failed add math time test pun dapat b3 time spm yawn.gif
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A+ still need quite high marks.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Apr 8 2012, 11:12 PM)
if u understand bell curve in the first place
you would know there are people who would understand it , and people who half understand and people who do not.
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and people who half understand is about 60-80% of total analysed?
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Better go for British A-Levels.
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QUOTE(Cowhide @ Apr 9 2012, 02:04 PM)
and people who half understand is about 60-80% of total analysed?
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not everything is perfectly bell curved liddat 1. sometimes got skewed curve. sometimes the middle of the curve is shifted towards the right/left.


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even with Bell curve, come on la. Making A 60 marks is totally absurb. If not many get A then the system needs fixing la.
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I understand the bell curve and I assume that they are normalizing the results obtained for that particular year. Nothing wrong with that, but if you take a look at the benchmarks that are set... it is just reflective of our education system and the quality of students that are being produced nowadays, shambles.


no this is exactly why you are wrong. You cannot make ANY decision based on this number. for example, if SPM this year had 50% university level questions, and the average mark is 15

Another year SPM 99% tadika questions, and average mark is 97

the 15 and 97 says NOTHING about the quality of students. you need historical data. u need to rank each data by efficiency you need to put out outliers. thats how you compare and analyse data.

This is exactly why malaysia newspaper is a huge joke. look at utusan. look at malaysia kini, look at harakah. Everything also one dimensioned. The reporters all degree by post. wtf lol

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^but then no questions are beyond the textbooks wan...

in fact mostquestions are below school standards...


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and the hell is not a malay teacher to be penyelaras bahasa melayu
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post Apr 10 2012, 12:28 PM

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Well patutlah DPM say Malaysia edu better than org putih skool.
Here...no need study hard can get A....very motivational for students.
Thank you BN for the feel good factor!

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