
now everyone can get an A in SPM
now everyone can get an A in SPM
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Apr 8 2012, 10:51 PM, updated 14y ago
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Apr 8 2012, 10:52 PM
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Meh, some subjects the graph go down so much.
Patut fail, but end up getting B. I don't like. Especially those kampung faggots all bodoh2 wan. SPM straight As, get jpa, come uni and fail. |
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Apr 8 2012, 10:54 PM
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No wonder la
So many ppl get straight As |
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Apr 8 2012, 10:54 PM
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lower standard for markings means student arent good enough like they boast in tv.
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Apr 8 2012, 10:56 PM
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its getting easier
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Apr 8 2012, 10:57 PM
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passing mark for add maths is 16?!??!?!?!
lol no wonder la i passsssss lol |
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Apr 8 2012, 10:57 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 10:57 PM
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wtf? science 35 is B? while religion needs 59? THE GOV NEEDS TO GET ITS FCUKING PRIORITIES RIGHT!!!
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Apr 8 2012, 10:58 PM
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Itulah kualiti cikgu sekarang. takda amanah. skala gaji kerajaan, homework bebudak, semua kongsi di facebook.
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Apr 8 2012, 10:58 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 10:58 PM
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How i fail my sejarah when the passing mark is only 25? ffffuuu
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Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM
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wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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Apr 8 2012, 11:01 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:02 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:03 PM
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Addmath very susah lehh
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Apr 8 2012, 11:03 PM
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Personally, i dont know how people can score below 60.
I think during my times, if ANYONE score below 65, consider fail already "gagal tahap sbp" it will show in RED. i guess lucky. haha. all the sekolah harian and vernacular schools full of rempits and ah longs which helps sbp gets 100% straight A's =.='' |
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Apr 8 2012, 11:04 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:06 PM
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reason why malaysian failed to enter harvard?
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Apr 8 2012, 11:08 PM
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ini gred sekolah la...bukan gred kementerian aku pikir
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Apr 8 2012, 11:11 PM
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not weird . my add match do 2 question only in paper 1 and anothe 1 question in paper 2 and pass e
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Apr 8 2012, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM) wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.= if u understand bell curve in the first placeyou would know there are people who would understand it , and people who half understand and people who do not. |
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Apr 8 2012, 11:12 PM
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hahaha ni musti sekolah bodoh
tau mintak insentif cemerlang saja |
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Apr 8 2012, 11:14 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:14 PM
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relax guys we have to give some mercy to people who need it
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Apr 8 2012, 11:14 PM
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waffak 0 ppl failed!?
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Apr 8 2012, 11:15 PM
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nola. i heard this is for school level only
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Apr 8 2012, 11:17 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:18 PM
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wtf school level? school level where got graph 1? whole class fail, fail lar.
last time my school level a1= 80 ... no questions asked. and it's just a regular school. not some special school u need pmr >9000 to enter... and btw why u all think graph so rendah means all those straight a1 = fake |
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Apr 8 2012, 11:23 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:27 PM
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47 A for science
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Apr 8 2012, 11:33 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:34 PM
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anda slowpoke
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Apr 8 2012, 11:40 PM
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Apr 8 2012, 11:46 PM
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i say fake.
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Apr 8 2012, 11:52 PM
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more ppl will go to college/uni, more ppl will loan money to further studies. bank/ptptn will enjoice.
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Apr 8 2012, 11:57 PM
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Apr 9 2012, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE not everybody study add maths ba, mr. scholar... normal distribution and reading the buku sifir i tot is normal mats == |
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Apr 9 2012, 12:10 AM
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kantoi uda
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Apr 9 2012, 12:17 AM
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the gov is trying to make future generation dumber so that easier to control(like those mat rempits and samseng ceramah)......smarter population already cost them 5 states (and more to come).....
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Apr 9 2012, 12:25 AM
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patut pun budak dulu2 cerdik pada budak sekarang.....manja lebih...puiii
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Apr 9 2012, 12:25 AM
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I got one question.... how do you actually grade Art?
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Apr 9 2012, 12:25 AM
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haha,u guys just know about this? during my highschool at 90s my teacher told the class about this when teaching us about statistic..
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Apr 9 2012, 12:41 AM
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one picture and poof..
everyone believe that this is the real SPM grading scheme. Welcome to internet |
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Apr 9 2012, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 9 2012, 12:25 AM) Paper 1 or Paper 2?For Paper 2, all the drawing papers are placed on the floor in a large area like a hall or a badminton court. Then 2 or 3 examiners will select the best drawings in order of grades. Selection of colour medium effects the grade given, e.g. water colour is the most difficult, hence eligable for higher grades as oppose to colour pencils. |
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Apr 9 2012, 01:13 AM
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Apr 9 2012, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:03 PM) Personally, i dont know how people can score below 60. u LSE mah.. I think during my times, if ANYONE score below 65, consider fail already "gagal tahap sbp" it will show in RED. i guess lucky. haha. all the sekolah harian and vernacular schools full of rempits and ah longs which helps sbp gets 100% straight A's =.='' |
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Apr 9 2012, 01:30 AM
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60 science can get A+, no wonder many ppl fight in uni for those courses.
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Apr 9 2012, 09:23 AM
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Whther this picture is real or fake, does not matter.
All we can be very sure of, is that every farking year, without fail, year in year out, we have more and more "straight A" students. So are passing rate. Do you think each and every year students are getting smarter and smarter? Really? What's their advantage i wonder? They has internetz? is it because they keep on drinking Brands chicken essence everyday? Is it because of the milk they drink? Apalankeow DHA AA AHA so thats why exam also can get A? Yeah right. Keep telling ourselves that. If you take the best spm student of 2011 and give him/her the MCE exam paper for 1970, i can guarantee you this "best student" will scratch his/her head until botak. Wanna bet? This post has been edited by suicai99: Apr 9 2012, 09:26 AM |
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Apr 9 2012, 09:29 AM
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real-world practical > exam
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Apr 9 2012, 09:29 AM
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ni semua nak ligan KPI bijan....semua jabatan macam tu deee...tambah2 kehakiman ...majitsret,hakim semua ligan kpi...kerja mudah...sampai ada lawyer dah malas nak masuk "court" sebab dah boleh tau keputusan..semua nak mudah...janji kpi tinggi...kes boleh habis cepat...huhu
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Apr 9 2012, 09:53 AM
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aku dah cakap dah. ramai butthurt bila junior/adik2 score better.
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Apr 9 2012, 09:54 AM
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ramai pelajar bodoh rupanya....
oh wai- |
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Apr 9 2012, 09:54 AM
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that's fair cus SPM cert is useless
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Apr 9 2012, 09:58 AM
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I can just simply print out this shit of paper anytime, u believe it?
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Apr 9 2012, 11:48 AM
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Isn't grades were based on the standard bell curve of students marks using a given formula?
Cambridge A-levels also used a familiar concept. There's no 'fix' marks for grades but will be adjusted based on performance of all candidates. |
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Apr 9 2012, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Apr 9 2012, 11:48 AM) Isn't grades were based on the standard bell curve of students marks using a given formula? This is where the grading system is flawed. Too flexible. It should be fixed, to indicate and differentiate between those who are the cream of the crop, or one who is just able to get by.Cambridge A-levels also used a familiar concept. There's no 'fix' marks for grades but will be adjusted based on performance of all candidates. One teacher who is strict in marking papers once told me : there are huge differences between a student who gets an A on 100 marks, compared to another who gets an A on 80 marks... |
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Apr 9 2012, 12:56 PM
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Apr 9 2012, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE This is where the grading system is flawed. Too flexible. It should be fixed, to indicate and differentiate between those who are the cream of the crop, or one who is just able to get by. One teacher who is strict in marking papers once told me : there are huge differences between a student who gets an A on 100 marks, compared to another who gets an A on 80 marks... have to disagree here. no one cares if you have 100 or 80 marks. if you got straight A, you will get lots of interviews for scholarship. THATS where a 80 marks and 100 marks person will differentiate itself. Who needs a 100 marks person who never went to national levels in any sports or club activities, never become captain prefect, and never become ketua unit beruniform? There are thousands of schools, that means we have thousands of head prefects, thousands of people in the national levels, and thouisands of ketua unit beruniform. If you cant even get this, then 100 marks also you dont deserve a scholarship. The 80 marks person will deserve it more. This is where you hack the weed from the crop, |
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Apr 9 2012, 01:02 PM
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Bahasa Cina you need around 85 to get A
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this is no good....
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Apr 9 2012, 01:17 PM
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this is how minister of education ctrl the so call quality la. they did it every year. that's why every time also got "peningkatan".
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Apr 9 2012, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM) wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.= I understand the bell curve and I assume that they are normalizing the results obtained for that particular year. Nothing wrong with that, but if you take a look at the benchmarks that are set... it is just reflective of our education system and the quality of students that are being produced nowadays, shambles. |
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Apr 9 2012, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 9 2012, 01:11 PM) But to be fair, the education systems in those western countries which we look up to so much to use as educational model for our schools are also facing the same dilemma of being so exam oriented as well these dayshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17564311 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 9 2012, 01:30 PM
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baru tau ke pasal ni?
dari sekolah lagi dah tahu kalau add math dapat 10 marks pun dah boleh lulus. aku yang selalu failed add math time test pun dapat b3 time spm |
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Apr 9 2012, 01:47 PM
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A+ still need quite high marks.
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Apr 9 2012, 01:49 PM
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Real or fake ? If fake i want start study now
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Apr 9 2012, 02:05 PM
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Better go for British A-Levels.
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Apr 9 2012, 02:09 PM
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Apr 9 2012, 02:12 PM
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even with Bell curve, come on la. Making A 60 marks is totally absurb. If not many get A then the system needs fixing la.
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Apr 9 2012, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE I understand the bell curve and I assume that they are normalizing the results obtained for that particular year. Nothing wrong with that, but if you take a look at the benchmarks that are set... it is just reflective of our education system and the quality of students that are being produced nowadays, shambles. no this is exactly why you are wrong. You cannot make ANY decision based on this number. for example, if SPM this year had 50% university level questions, and the average mark is 15 Another year SPM 99% tadika questions, and average mark is 97 the 15 and 97 says NOTHING about the quality of students. you need historical data. u need to rank each data by efficiency you need to put out outliers. thats how you compare and analyse data. This is exactly why malaysia newspaper is a huge joke. look at utusan. look at malaysia kini, look at harakah. Everything also one dimensioned. The reporters all degree by post. wtf lol This post has been edited by YameteOniichan: Apr 9 2012, 03:08 PM |
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Apr 9 2012, 03:21 PM
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^but then no questions are beyond the textbooks wan...
in fact mostquestions are below school standards... |
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Apr 10 2012, 02:01 AM
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and the hell is not a malay teacher to be penyelaras bahasa melayu
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Apr 10 2012, 12:28 PM
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Well patutlah DPM say Malaysia edu better than org putih skool.
Here...no need study hard can get A....very motivational for students. Thank you BN for the feel good factor! |
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