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post Apr 9 2012, 01:01 PM

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This is where the grading system is flawed. Too flexible. It should be fixed, to indicate and differentiate between those who are the cream of the crop, or one who is just able to get by.

One teacher who is strict in marking papers once told me : there are huge differences between a student who gets an A on 100 marks, compared to another who gets an A on 80 marks...


have to disagree here. no one cares if you have 100 or 80 marks. if you got straight A, you will get lots of interviews for scholarship. THATS where a 80 marks and 100 marks person will differentiate itself.

Who needs a 100 marks person who never went to national levels in any sports or club activities, never become captain prefect, and never become ketua unit beruniform?

There are thousands of schools, that means we have thousands of head prefects, thousands of people in the national levels, and thouisands of ketua unit beruniform. If you cant even get this, then 100 marks also you dont deserve a scholarship.

The 80 marks person will deserve it more. This is where you hack the weed from the crop,
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:02 PM

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Bahasa Cina you need around 85 to get A laugh.gif
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Apr 9 2012, 01:02 PM)
Bahasa Cina you need around 85 to get A laugh.gif
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:11 PM

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not gonna happen...

http://malaysiakini.com/news/194502


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post Apr 9 2012, 01:15 PM

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this is no good....
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:17 PM

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this is how minister of education ctrl the so call quality la. they did it every year. that's why every time also got "peningkatan". laugh.gif
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Seager @ Apr 8 2012, 10:52 PM)
Meh, some subjects the graph go down so much.
Patut fail, but end up getting B.

I don't like. Especially those kampung faggots all bodoh2 wan. SPM straight As, get jpa, come uni and fail.
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Butthurt much bro?
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Apr 8 2012, 11:00 PM)
wow. i cant believe people here could finish SPM without understanding the mechanism of "bell curve" =.=
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I understand the bell curve and I assume that they are normalizing the results obtained for that particular year. Nothing wrong with that, but if you take a look at the benchmarks that are set... it is just reflective of our education system and the quality of students that are being produced nowadays, shambles.
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 9 2012, 01:11 PM)
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not gonna happen...

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But to be fair, the education systems in those western countries which we look up to so much to use as educational model for our schools are also facing the same dilemma of being so exam oriented as well these days

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17564311


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post Apr 9 2012, 01:30 PM

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baru tau ke pasal ni?

dari sekolah lagi dah tahu kalau add math dapat 10 marks pun dah boleh lulus. aku yang selalu failed add math time test pun dapat b3 time spm yawn.gif
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(lagenda @ Apr 9 2012, 01:30 PM)
baru tau ke pasal ni?

dari sekolah lagi dah tahu kalau add math dapat 10 marks pun dah boleh lulus. aku yang selalu failed add math time test pun dapat b3 time spm yawn.gif
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same...i nvr pass my addmaths....suddenly spm C3 lmao
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:47 PM

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A+ still need quite high marks.
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post Apr 9 2012, 01:49 PM

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Real or fake ? If fake i want start study now
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Apr 8 2012, 11:12 PM)
if u understand bell curve in the first place
you would know there are people who would understand it , and people who half understand and people who do not.
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and people who half understand is about 60-80% of total analysed?
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post Apr 9 2012, 02:05 PM

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Better go for British A-Levels.
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post Apr 9 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(Cowhide @ Apr 9 2012, 02:04 PM)
and people who half understand is about 60-80% of total analysed?
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not everything is perfectly bell curved liddat 1. sometimes got skewed curve. sometimes the middle of the curve is shifted towards the right/left.


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even with Bell curve, come on la. Making A 60 marks is totally absurb. If not many get A then the system needs fixing la.
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post Apr 9 2012, 03:06 PM

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I understand the bell curve and I assume that they are normalizing the results obtained for that particular year. Nothing wrong with that, but if you take a look at the benchmarks that are set... it is just reflective of our education system and the quality of students that are being produced nowadays, shambles.


no this is exactly why you are wrong. You cannot make ANY decision based on this number. for example, if SPM this year had 50% university level questions, and the average mark is 15

Another year SPM 99% tadika questions, and average mark is 97

the 15 and 97 says NOTHING about the quality of students. you need historical data. u need to rank each data by efficiency you need to put out outliers. thats how you compare and analyse data.

This is exactly why malaysia newspaper is a huge joke. look at utusan. look at malaysia kini, look at harakah. Everything also one dimensioned. The reporters all degree by post. wtf lol

This post has been edited by YameteOniichan: Apr 9 2012, 03:08 PM
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post Apr 9 2012, 03:21 PM

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^but then no questions are beyond the textbooks wan...

in fact mostquestions are below school standards...


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post Apr 9 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Apr 9 2012, 01:17 PM)
Butthurt much bro?
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