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post Apr 17 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 17 2012, 07:54 PM)
I like the way you thinking. Our people really should learning how to proud with our self rather than just praise foreigner too much.
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In the globalization world, it's either u r good.. Or u r out... The more protection u put in, the backward u going to... Any industries...

Even nation like USA refuse to pour more $ into their own brand... Then only they will wake up to save themselves... Same goes to Nissan... Japanese national brand...

There r more n more brand become a global brand, instead of the brand belong to any nation...

Renault make car in Korea, etc... Too bad.. Thats the way it is...
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 17 2012, 07:37 PM)
good2, so many comments. If not mistakenlah, full manual mode need to push to side the lever. Erm, about the crack signal stalk, is it crack or sound crack coz u still hold the stalk even after turning the steering, n dont go back normal, is it means that the signal stalk not return back to neutral postion. If that the case, normal, not broken. But if physically crack, then its abnormal.

Centre console button near h u some are indicators only, not button.

About rattles, i think need to check whether come from the un properly closed glove box or the compartment near the driver's side,under the steering. Being subject of abuse, u knowlah,ha...ha...,but its good to abuse coz then know bleh tahan atau x, either hard way or the highway,ops sorry, malaysian way :-).

I think prtn listen to all the comments. Just my thought.

Even some saying interior mcm taik, langgar yellow line gegar mcm kancil sbb pkai oem kayaba cap ayam, xpkai gab absorber(wow, gab, honda used gab kot, he..he..just joking), i think,they accept it all as feedback for improvements.
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of course DSZ will listen to our comments whistling.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2012, 08:01 PM)
Interior is serviceable, definitely looks more expensive than RM72k. My main peeve is still with the center console and the HU. Sigh, this is where it becomes evident that Proton can give you a great overall package, but always overlooked the details.
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well, at least the HU is quite usable. i see theres a traffic info button on the HU as well sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 17 2012, 08:01 PM)
In the globalization world, it's either u r good.. Or u r out...  The more protection u put in, the backward u going to...  Any industries... 

Even nation like USA refuse to pour more $ into their own brand... Then only they will wake up to save themselves...  Same goes to Nissan...  Japanese national brand... 

There r more n more brand become a global brand, instead of the brand belong to any nation... 

Renault make car in Korea, etc...  Too bad..  Thats the way it is...
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Isn't GM just being bailed out by US Gov not long ago?
It was 360 million loan, save it from getting bust.

But yea, we need an open market
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2012, 08:01 PM)
Interior is serviceable, definitely looks more expensive than RM72k. My main peeve is still with the center console and the HU. Sigh, this is where it becomes evident that Proton can give you a great overall package, but always overlooked the details.
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I just hope that those production models (those that is gonna be delivered to the customers) have no major QC problems ohmy.gif

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ok i'll wait for the Sapphire Edition. damn its sooo cun, metal finishing. aww.. drool.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:10 PM

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To all that went for the test drive and driven an Inspira before, how does it compare?

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Yeah Yeah test drive and apply for Maybank loan get 2.78% is it high? the maybank officer going to submit the loan today for processing...not sure how long have to wait.

Preve Silver...initially wanted a blue but silver looks better the blue color not that nice.
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:13 PM

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Can someone pm me sa who gives cash discount + freebies?
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(LLH @ Apr 17 2012, 07:57 PM)
After preve is there a D segment car coming ?
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I think that would be unwise ... Proton would be competing on too many fronts. Not to mention D segment has as much contenders as flies in a chicken farm
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 17 2012, 08:01 PM)
In the globalization world, it's either u r good.. Or u r out...   The more protection u put in, the backward u going to...  Any industries...  

Even nation like USA refuse to pour more $ into their own brand... Then only they will wake up to save themselves...  Same goes to Nissan...   Japanese national brand... 

There r more n more brand become a global brand, instead of the brand belong to any nation... 

Renault make car in Korea, etc...   Too bad..  Thats the way it is...
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I get your point but for me, Malaysian mentality which always think negatively in whatever product that produced by Malaysian is need to change. Our people lack the spirit to support each other and more prefer to bashing blindly rather than use some rational thinking. This is just wrong.

Our people is not like Japanese, Korean, Germany and other country that have superb patriotism. Their own brand doesn't need protection by gov because their rakyat itself will protect their own brand. Their rakyat really know what is the best for their economy. I bet if gov doesn't protect our local brand, Malaysia is the 1st country that will being eaten by globalism.

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post Apr 17 2012, 08:17 PM

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Did anyone notice?

mat79 has stop denying he is DSZ ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 17 2012, 08:15 PM)
I get your point but for me, Malaysian mentality which always think negatively in whatever product that produced by Malaysian is need to change. Our people lack the spirit to support each other and more prefer to bashing blindly rather than use some rational thinking. This is just wrong.

Our people is not like Japanese, Korean, Germany and other country that have superb patriotism. Their own brand doesn't need protection by gov because their rakyat itself will protect their own brand. Their rakyat really know what is the best for their economy. I bet if gov doesn't protect our local brand, Malaysia is the 1st country that will been eaten by globalism.
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After years of tarnished products, it's hard to get people to change overnight. Since when you felt Proton become better? Personally for me it's during DSZ period, and how many years is that? Now they want to rebuild the image brand. Slowly la, I can see the progress

It takes time to heal


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post Apr 17 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 17 2012, 08:15 PM)
I get your point but for me, Malaysian mentality which always think negatively in whatever product that produced by Malaysian is need to change. Our people lack the spirit to support each other and more prefer to bashing blindly rather than use some rational thinking. This is just wrong.

Our people is not like Japanese, Korean, Germany and other country that have superb patriotism. Their own brand doesn't need protection by gov because their rakyat itself will protect their own brand. Their rakyat really know what is the best for their economy. I bet if gov doesn't protect our local brand, Malaysia is the 1st country that will been eaten by globalism.
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I agree... But u have to look at partially how this government treat the ppl... And secondly, why german and Japanese have such attitude... Have to look at wwII dy....

Another thing donno u agree or not... This country donno how to appreciate those gifted ppl...
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This is going off topic.
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 17 2012, 08:21 PM)
... This country donno how to appreciate those gifted ppl...
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You think the so-called "brain-drain" is just a myth? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Junn @ Apr 17 2012, 08:18 PM)
After years of tarnished products, it's hard to get people to change overnight. Since when you felt Proton become better? Personally for me it's during DSZ period, and how many years is that? Now they want to rebuild the image brand. Slowly la, I can see the progress

It takes time to heal
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He come from P2... but ppl are bashing p2.. Funny? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Apr 17 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Junn @ Apr 17 2012, 08:18 PM)
After years of tarnished products, it's hard to get people to change overnight. Since when you felt Proton become better? Personally for me it's during DSZ period, and how many years is that? Now they want to rebuild the image brand. Slowly la, I can see the progress

It takes time to heal
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Yerp I can understand that. I'm not blaming people that have bad exp with Proton car before. That's normal thing to happen. You mess up with me, i gonna fark you forever.
But since Proton already change their management and they do show show some effort to change, i'll support them but i do think too they need to progress more fast.
If they really mess up with don't care attitude in future, people can force them to close shop already or simply force down all current management in to dustbin.
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 17 2012, 08:25 PM)
Yerp I can understand that. I'm not blaming people that have bad exp with Proton car before. That's normal thing to happen. You mess up with me, i gonna fark you forever.
But since Proton already change their management and they do show show some effort to change, i'll support them but i do think too they need to progress more fast.
If they really mess up with don't care attitude in future, people can force them to close shop already or simply force down all current management in to dustbin.
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Yeah... It need time... Esp a damaged name.... Building up a good name take long years.... Making it bad, not that hard...
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Gather comments from the experts and test-drives here, I can conclude that Preve has excellent NVH, acceleration a bit sluggish before 2000rpm, spacious and comfortable cabin (but loses to RaRa), plasticky dashboard, and arguably attractive exterior and interior design.
IMO Preve deserve the global car status but the million-dollar-question is will it sell well locally and overseas? What say you?

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post Apr 17 2012, 08:28 PM

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First of. Omaigawd. You guys can post a lot man. 15 pages? Lol.

QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 16 2012, 10:58 PM)
that is the problem, previously if they have improve and produce good quality car we wont have this mindset.

if proton 20 years ago, produce great cars with good reliability, i am very sure we will buy them, then no need to impose tax. if proton produce great quality cars, no one will buy dugong. or Siti.

but they dont. they produce shit cars. Only because of Proton Steve jobs make a new car. some of us began to respect his creation, not the company.

so conclusion is, if this Preve sucks then forever proton will be badge low quality cars.
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This is so true. I think of this car as Proton's last chance. The last Ace they hold. They mess this up...buhbye.

QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 17 2012, 01:31 AM)
nope...
the acceleration is so so.... the 205 NM dont make itself felt...
frankly if u ask me.... i feel the acceleration of a FD2 can match this car

the interior wise, feels solidly put together but the overall packaging could be better <-- bashers will take this as a poorly build interior as they will not understand what is overall packaging.. poor them

(as much as i think the interior can be better, this is a right step as compared to the interior of previous proton's)

as a typical proton, its the driving dynamics of this car even with traction control off (in the wet), (sorry to those on LDP earlier for terrorizing u guys), that really shines... brakes are solid, steering feel is excellent, lane change stability  is there, the chassis is well composed no matter how i try to shake it off balance (hand brake corner in taman megah)..

very big thanks to the folks in taman sea showroom for giving me this extended test drive with my friend...
and we are sorry for burning the brakes... the brakes faded when we returned the car... (yes u can smell them, brake smell i meant)
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cant wait to see what the R3 boys can do to its already well sorted chassis...

P/S:
no, i am not paid.... and if u would ask me, i would think they can do better with the interior and oh yeah, bigger brakes please. preve brakes is smaller then those on the exora bold

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Dude, that's a pretty good feedback on the car handling. I mean...handbrake corner? sweat.gif At least we know the car can really deliver when it comes to the safety eh?

QUOTE(bem69 @ Apr 17 2012, 02:32 AM)
FenomX, you may be interested in this, if you haven't viewed it yourself la.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Can I kiss you? Been waiting for someone to post the black! I think I finally made my choice biggrin.gif Thanks man!

Here's a manly kiss *smooch*

QUOTE(mutt @ Apr 17 2012, 09:11 AM)
I think all of u hv misunderstood with my post. Damn smartphone ruined everybody's mood in da morning. Having hardtine to properly posting using my fon sweat.gif
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I feel your pain bro. Posting from my phone can be such a pain too sweat.gif

QUOTE(valence @ Apr 17 2012, 10:36 AM)
Test drive d, the pedal a bit hard to press it rev beyond 2k, is it normal?

And, the fit and finishing a bit reckless, there gaps at rear door handle.
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valence-kor! You test drive dy. Demmit. I got no time to go today. Was hoping to slip out from the office in the evening...No chance. Haih. I think I'll go with the black. You going for the white?

Btw, our SA confirm the freebies liao? Oh and do you know what time they close? I have potential to poison 3 people brows.gif

QUOTE(Area51SE @ Apr 17 2012, 11:46 AM)
Yeap, When SE comes or Bodykits from proton available. My SA promised to give it for free
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Wah. You really hantam him 99 laugh.gif I thought if I could get the smart tag I'm happy dy. Must aim for more. Hahaha.

QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 17 2012, 03:49 PM)
affin bank offer 2.75% for 10%dp 9 years
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Wah. That's pretty damn good. Hmm...A bit of a noobish question - will all affin bank offer this rate, or different banks will offer different rates?

QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 17 2012, 05:12 PM)
When I was in Honda showroom, I don't see people knocking the car.

When in Proton showroom, people knock the car.
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Erm. Whichever showroom or car display I go to, I'll be knocking the car. Lol. I remember checking out the Insight before. Do NOT like the interior. Damn plasticky. Now that felt cheap.

QUOTE(ProX @ Apr 17 2012, 05:49 PM)
tested to sit in this car and I am quite impressed with what proton offered this time. Overall, I like this car but only 2 things that they could do better.

1) Rear passenger headroom clearance is pretty low. Not so suitable for tall people and I can imagine knocking your head on the roof

2) Buttons next to the HU could be improved with better press feedback. It is quite hard to press and not so responsive. It also feel like the button is easily spoilt. Possibly this unit has been badly abuse by other tester.

To summarize it, please go to the showroom to test and feel it. It looks much better than the picture or video. Initially I thought the quality would be plasticky or cheap but it is not.

Not sure if i could wait for "sapphire" version to come out.
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Just thought I'd add a bit on the bolded part. I'm 6 foot 1. Sat at the back seat...and didn't find any problem with head room. And this is with me sitting bolt straight.

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2012, 06:55 PM)
Just test drove earlier (If anyone saw a red Preve zipping through the Connaught highway at highspeed around 4-5pm, that's probably me)

I think izputra has covered most of what I thought, I just like to add my piece re the engine performance.

Compared to my FLX SE, the 1k-2k RPM (before the turbo kicks in) is really sluggish, as if the 1.6 NA is struggling to move the car. The CVT is probably to blame, but nonetheless it's there.

As said before, after 2k the turbo kicks in and that's where the car really starts to move. In D gear, the transition is smooth, almost unnoticable, BUT once you hit 2K and decides to release the pedal, the car jerks pretty hard due to engine braking, this could affect driving comfort in stop and go traffic. Also, the CVT seems reluctant to go to higher RPM, I would press the pedal hard and somehow the car decides to stay at 2k RPM, I was like WTFISTHISSHIT.

The real fun is when you use the paddle shifters. In this mode the cars feel utterly alive and so much more responsive than in D. Whereas in D the RPM rises very slow, with the paddle shifters you can simply downshift and off it goes. This part was by far the most satisfying part of the test drive.

I pity those who bought the IAFM+ variant, because they too will encounter the same sluggish response from 1k-2k RPM, except the 205Nm of torque will never come, ever. So if you are going for the IAFM+, please do yourself a favour and get the manual instead.

Also, unbelievably, the dashboard rattled halfway through my test drive
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Reading so many consistent reviews about the low range rev gives me quite the chills. Must test drive it soon sweat.gif

So poisoned liao? laugh.gif

QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 17 2012, 07:48 PM)
ah, forget also, since many people scrutinised n test the car to the max, many didnt notice the glass area all around is pilkington toughened n st gobain sekurit. If u find anything unpleasing or anything, just mentioned it out. Who knows, maybe some protonians read this n can improve its. By the way, the glove box closing mechanism using side latch, rather than what they normally used. Are they scared the latch will break during abuse period? He...he...
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Wah. Pilkington? Really? Damn. That's good stuff there.


On a different note, one of my friends quite interested with this car...but she just bought a myvi se. It's only been about three months since she bought the car. Would it be possible for her to trade in the car you think?

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