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post Apr 5 2012, 01:06 PM, updated 4 years ago


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Do You think Korea car will surpass Japan car another few years ?

Japan Car 2013
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Toyota Camry 2013 , Honda Civic 2013 , Toyota Yaris 2013 , Honda Civic Coupe 2013

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Hyundai Elantra Coupe 2013 , Hyundai Veloster 2013 , Kia Ceed 2013 , Kia Forte 2013

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post Apr 5 2012, 01:11 PM


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of coz la korean won based on design... in the japan still won coz of so called 2nd hand price
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:11 PM


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Sure can... their electronic products such as LG, Samsung already same level or might be beyond the Japanese products
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:13 PM


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You should use lexus, infiniti or acura to represent top level japanese car..

Toyota, honda, daihatsu are meant to be lower level jap makes, so the design are just so so

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post Apr 5 2012, 01:18 PM


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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Apr 5 2012, 01:13 PM)
You should use lexus, infiniti or acura to represent top level japanese car..

Toyota, honda, daihatsu are meant to be lower level jap makes, so the design are just so so
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i'm comparing the car pricing below RM160k which very common by using at malaysia & i believe hyundai elantra & lexus,infiniti doesnt at same level
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:20 PM


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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 5 2012, 01:11 PM)
of coz la korean won based on design... in the japan still won coz of so called 2nd hand price
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:20 PM


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korean nicer but dont know more plastic or not
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:22 PM


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Korean car uglier~ whistling.gif
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:23 PM


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Japan designs getting bland...

Korean designs getting obnoxious...

so how??
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:24 PM


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japan please
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:26 PM


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Sigh

So when can our Milo Tin Can compete against those 2 countries?

inb4never.
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:28 PM


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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 5 2012, 01:23 PM)
Japan designs getting bland...

Korean designs getting obnoxious...

so how??
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get a proton
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:29 PM


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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 5 2012, 01:23 PM)
Japan designs getting bland...

Korean designs getting obnoxious...

so how??
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Apr 5 2012, 01:28 PM)
get a proton
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:31 PM


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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Apr 5 2012, 01:18 PM)
i'm comparing the car pricing below RM160k which very common by using at malaysia & i believe hyundai elantra & lexus,infiniti doesnt at same level
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Exactly my point, your bechmark deliberately put lower end japanese brands to compare with top Korean car brands, which is unfair.

You want to see which country produce better car, better design, and better performance but restrict your comparison by putting lower end at one side and top end at the other side...of course la korean makes seemed a lot better..


If you compare with current top end japanese brands confirm Korean cars cannot compete..

Compare best vs best, not best vs mediocre.

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post Apr 5 2012, 01:35 PM


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Still the 2013 Ford Mondeo win all .



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post Apr 5 2012, 01:36 PM


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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Apr 5 2012, 01:31 PM)
Exactly my point, your bechmark deliberately put lower end japanese brands to compare with top Korean car brands, which is unfair.

You want to see which country produce better car, better design, and better performance but restrict your comparison by putting lower end at one side and top end at the other side...of course la korean makes seemed a lot better..
If you compare with current top end japanese brands confirm Korean cars cannot compete..

Compare best vs best, not best vs mediocre.
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ok , so let's make it hyundai , kia car vs toyota , honda car .
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Apr 5 2012, 01:38 PM)
Korean deisign , German engineering and Japanese touch up biggrin.gif
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You get proton whistling.gif
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:39 PM


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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Apr 5 2012, 01:39 PM)
You get proton whistling.gif
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:45 PM


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Korean car design suit me more..
But people say korean car trade in not worth the price..
So prefer Japan car..
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post Apr 5 2012, 01:47 PM


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imagine 50-60 yo uncle/aunty driving korean car...muntah
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QUOTE(t3arsCulprit @ Apr 5 2012, 01:45 PM)
Korean car design suit me more..
But people say korean car trade in not worth the price..
So prefer Japan car..
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conflict of financial&taste 'interest'

geddit...?
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QUOTE(t3arsCulprit @ Apr 5 2012, 01:45 PM)
Korean car design suit me more..
But people say korean car trade in not worth the price..
So prefer Japan car..
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but i checked sonata 2010 2nd hand price , price still remain around there
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QUOTE(t3arsCulprit @ Apr 5 2012, 01:45 PM)
Korean car design suit me more..
But people say korean car trade in not worth the price..
So prefer Japan car..
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seriously, korea cars design is more futuristic in recent years
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Apr 5 2012, 01:06 PM)
Do You think Korea car will surpass Japan car another few years ?
Match the quality, probably.. but surpassing, I really doubt it. The Japanese are very quality-conscious. More importantly, we should be asking, will Proton to be able to match Japanese cars in another 50 years? Honestly, I am wondering what value-added Mahathir is contributing to Proton as its adviser. Or is his salary and fringe benefits merely adding cost to Proton so that we have to pay more for it?
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 5 2012, 02:51 PM)
Match the quality, probably.. but surpassing, I really doubt it. The Japanese are very quality-conscious. More importantly, we should be asking, will Proton to be able to match Japanese cars in another 50 years? Honestly, I am wondering what value-added Mahathir is contributing to Proton as its adviser. Or is his salary and fringe benefits merely adding cost to Proton so that we have to pay more for it?
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haha , i dont care about proton , i wont buy it .

For those high end car , i still believe japan > korea . Nissan GTR , Lexus etc..

But for those mid range car like camry , sonata , optima , elantra , city , vios which we will see very common on the street ,
japan car are totally losing out of their car design , quality .
Camry & Accord is still acceptable ,
but vios & city seriously i feel it doesnt diffrent with proton which i see all 'plastic plastic' inside the car .

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Apr 5 2012, 03:01 PM)
haha , i dont care about proton , i wont buy it .

For those high end car , i still believe japan > korea . Nissan GTR , Lexus etc..

But for those mid range car like camry , sonata , optima , elantra , city , vios which we will see very common on the street ,
japan car are totally losing out of their car design , quality .
Camry & Accord is still acceptable ,
but vios & city seriously i feel it doesnt diffrent with proton which i see all 'plastic plastic' inside the car .
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Hi Hunakadoo, is it still true that Japanese cars fetch higher resale value than Korean cars? Me not in touch of the market because I change my car every 15 years, hahaha.
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 5 2012, 03:07 PM)
Hi Hunakadoo, is it still true that Japanese cars fetch higher resale value than Korean cars? Me not in touch of the market because I change my car every 15 years, hahaha.
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Yeap , ofcourse japanese car resale value much better than korea car
but now korean car is slowly catch up from behind already . The demand of korea car is increasing .

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The only korean car that is really selling in malaysia is kia forte, even then the figures are not that impressive. The rest i barely see on the road...sonata only see it once in a blue moon and i live in the klang valley.

The only reason kia forte is selling is cause it's cheap. If a civic 2.0 or kia forte 2.0 sold at same price, would anyone buy the korean? lol.
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QUOTE(rockets @ Apr 5 2012, 03:22 PM)
The only korean car that is really selling in malaysia is kia forte, even then the figures are not that impressive. The rest i barely see on the road...sonata only see it once in a blue moon and i live in the klang valley.

The only reason kia forte is selling is cause it's cheap. If a civic 2.0 or kia forte 2.0 sold at same price, would anyone buy the korean? lol.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 5 2012, 03:34 PM)
I see Sonata Every day wan wor  hmm.gif
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because you are driving sonata.. haha, got you!!!

It is not easy to surpass Japan especially in automotive industry as they has established a very good brand name and position in the world. No doubt Korean has made a big leap, especially KIA. But it is a way to go if yo catch up Japanese.

As 1 of the forumer said, the reason people get forte because it is cheaper then Civic.

My intuition is telling me Volkswagen is soon gonna to introduce <100k B segment car.
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My jaw drop when i see Hyundai Elentra.. Price cheaper than Civic or Altis lagi tu...perrrrrr
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camry compare with sonata, still sonata win imho

the design of camry so 'dead' look
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 5 2012, 04:06 PM)
because you are driving sonata.. haha, got you!!!

It is not easy to surpass Japan especially in automotive industry as they has established a very good brand name and position in the world. No doubt Korean has made a big leap, especially KIA. But it is a way to go if yo catch up Japanese.

As 1 of the forumer said, the reason people get forte because it is cheaper then Civic.

My intuition is telling me Volkswagen is soon gonna to introduce <100k B segment car.
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they do alot of surface refinement (like external looks and interior dashboard style), but mechanical wise.. not match japs yet.. sure 165bhp 6 spd auto 2L.. but somewhat similar performance only then those lesser power japs..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 5 2012, 05:28 PM)
they do alot of surface refinement (like external looks and interior dashboard style), but mechanical wise.. not match japs yet.. sure 165bhp 6 spd auto 2L.. but somewhat similar performance only then those lesser power japs..
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Heavy abit lor...but comfortable can liao lah.. Take time to refine the engine part for sure haha but gearbox part gooding liao rclxms.gif
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Why TS only show the ugly Japanese cars?
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 5 2012, 05:30 PM)
Heavy abit lor...but comfortable can liao lah.. Take time to refine the engine part for sure haha but gearbox part gooding liao  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(avex|mode @ Apr 5 2012, 05:32 PM)
Why TS only show the ugly Japanese cars?
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admittedly, japs missed a step this time for likes of civic and camry/altis lol. but around the world many nice japs currently not sold here.. but some coming, like new CX-5 mazda.. and infiniti is here too!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(avex|mode @ Apr 5 2012, 05:32 PM)
Why TS only show the ugly Japanese cars?
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seriously what photo i show is 2013 model . it's 2013 Camry & Civic . dont suspect .

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 5 2012, 05:34 PM)
admittedly, japs missed a step this time for likes of civic and camry/altis lol. but around the world many nice japs currently  not sold here.. but some coming, like new CX-5 mazda.. and infiniti is here too!!  thumbup.gif
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You will be even shock when in Japan itself, the folks there dun drive big-big fancy cars but those boxy (Like Juara & Suzuki AV), small daihatsus & the myvi there.. biggrin.gif ...Something shocking to me till now biggrin.gif

Oh yeah..Civic also damn rare in Tokyo.. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 5 2012, 05:41 PM)
You will be even shock when in Japan itself, the folks there dun drive big-big fancy cars but those boxy (Like Juara & Suzuki AV), small daihatsus & the myvi there.. biggrin.gif ...Something shocking to me till now  biggrin.gif

Oh yeah..Civic also damn rare in Tokyo.. rclxub.gif
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that's their Kei car culture..
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the new Camaro was designed by Korean name Sangyup Lee
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Camaro_%28fifth_generation%29)

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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 5 2012, 05:54 PM)
Nissan fag spotted  biggrin.gif
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more like i like JDM japs.. biggrin.gif
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infiniti is > RM250k , a little bit pricey and no resale value too .
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 5 2012, 05:56 PM)
more like i like JDM japs..  biggrin.gif
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keicarfag no meh biggrin.gif very popular in Japan wan.. I think the folks there not so kheng like M'sian all owning small & boxy cars only biggrin.gif ehhh also basikal wan
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Ooops forgot to put
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make this a reality biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(MsGaijin @ Apr 5 2012, 06:02 PM)
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Toyota Mark X ker , but seems like is concept car . cant really get it on Google , price also > RM250k
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japan car how ugly it was,still the best & u can only know after several years of ownership

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sory korean car never get into my mind
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reliability = jp cool2.gif

design = kr wub.gif

reliability + design = proton prae-veh laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Apr 5 2012, 06:05 PM)
japan car how ugly it was,still the best & u can only know after several years of ownership

second-proton

sory korean car never get into my mind
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while i believe korea car will be rising within this few years .
Sonata & Optima just a starting , somemore new Camry & new Civic really dissapoited a lot consumer ,
which i saw a lot of bad comment about the new car design .

so i can predict that korea car sales will goes up while toyota & honda car sales will drop while camry & civic launch .
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Apr 5 2012, 06:05 PM)
Toyota Mark X ker , but seems like is concept car . cant really get it on Google , price also > RM250k
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iirc, naza selling around 190k.. biggrin.gif

some on mudah also..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:19 PM)
iirc, naza selling around 190k..  biggrin.gif

some on mudah also..
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Mark X is very naise - but since not oficially bring in malaysia and discontinue edi
sked to buy - later hard to find spare-parts

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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:28 PM)
Mark X is very naise - but since not oficially bring in malaysia and discontinue edi
sked to buy - later hard to find spare-parts
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what discon, this is the latest one.. brows.gif

anyway for JDM toyota no need worry la.. i got one toyopet mpv, what spare part also got. power door mechanism, reverse lamp, front light etc..
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:30 PM)
what discon, this is the latest one..  brows.gif

anyway for JDM toyota no need worry la.. i got one toyopet mpv, what spare part also got. power door mechanism, reverse lamp, front light etc..
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weh - sure onot??

wah this is interdesting hmm.gif

lemme goger 1st...

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but rear light looks like sonata sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Apr 5 2012, 01:06 PM)
Do You think Korea car will surpass Japan car another few years ?

Japan Car 2013
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Toyota Camry 2013 , Honda Civic 2013 , Toyota Yaris 2013 , Honda Civic Coupe 2013

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Hyundai Elantra Coupe 2013 , Hyundai Veloster 2013 , Kia Ceed 2013 , Kia Forte 2013
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Korea, forever Korea, Always Korea. smile.gif
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:31 PM)
weh - sure onot??

wah this is interdesting  hmm.gif

lemme goger 1st...

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but rear light looks like sonata  sweat.gif
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this also not bad , for similar budget..
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Second hand value = perceived value

so if more demand = higher 2nd hand resale value
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this also not bad , for similar budget..
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crown vic ah?

not naise - to me lah - co looks like nissan slphy edi sweat.gif
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the new mark x the front very naise - but behind... sweat.gif

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the new mark x the front very naise - but behind...  sweat.gif
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Belakang macam forte aje~~
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marx 3.5cc ?
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marx 3.5cc ?
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got 2 apparently 2.5 & 3.5

http://www.batfa.com/new_car_toyota_mark_x.htm
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after you mention, it does look like it, Definitely a good car, at the cost of price~~ biggrin.gif

Can go 200km/h ~
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 5 2012, 01:37 PM)
korean car u leave it unlock also nobody stole
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That's the reason I like Korea car
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:54 PM)
2.5cc
2010 selling RM230,000
expensive for me biggrin.gif
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true - quite expensive for a recon

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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:59 PM)
true - quite expensive for a recon
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buy at RM230k , maybe next year if u want sell , could be around RM170k++ only
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buy at RM230k , maybe next year if u want sell , could be around RM170k++ only
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But the experience of driving one is better than harrier biggrin.gif
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Thing with Japanese cars is that its too much on the road, u buy expensive also people wont turn heads when u drive..
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2012, 07:21 PM)
Thing with Japanese cars is that its too much on the road, u buy expensive also people wont turn heads when u drive..
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yeap , i like to used to be unique too biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 5 2012, 06:30 PM)
what discon, this is the latest one..  brows.gif

anyway for JDM toyota no need worry la.. i got one toyopet mpv, what spare part also got. power door mechanism, reverse lamp, front light etc..
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Darn u Kdramas fanboyz but when comes to car, keicarfag liao mad.gif biggrin.gif
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Darn u Kdramas fanboyz but when comes to car, keicarfag liao  mad.gif  biggrin.gif
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cant explain it also.. cry.gif white goods i can accept samsung also..
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Spare parts issue, I think if a car hard to get spare parts, and hard to change spareparts, those ah beng workshops is forced to get Genuine Parts from Korea.. which is better what..
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Korean car got style, outlook like god.. But service like hell..
Japan car, "Driven to drive"..
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QUOTE(fattchoi @ Apr 5 2012, 07:35 PM)
Korean car got style, outlook like god.. But service like hell..
Japan car, "Driven to drive"..
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did u really try forte , sonata & optima ?
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did u really try forte , sonata & optima ?
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did u really try forte , sonata & optima ?
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No.. But heard like sonata engine like sucks.. Some more those car u mention are still new, few years later then u will know..
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QUOTE(fattchoi @ Apr 5 2012, 08:12 PM)
No.. But heard like sonata engine like sucks.. Some more those car u mention are still new, few years later then u will know..
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I also heard from some auntie when you put money on table then you go toilet.. come out will become twice the amount 1.... true story yooo
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did u really try forte , sonata & optima ?
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i also heard unpleasant stories from those who bought hyundai cars

i guess for the next purchase not only have to drive the car... but go survey the
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:23 AM)
i also heard unpleasant stories from those who bought hyundai cars

i guess for the next purchase not only have to drive the car... but go survey the
service centre as well, right?
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which model ? Brand stereotyping is like stereotyping all asians have tiny p****
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which model ? Brand stereotyping is like stereotyping all asians have tiny p****
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it's an inquiry/curiosity/question - a clarification would be nice

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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 6 2012, 11:19 AM)
it's an inquiry/curiosity/question - a clarification would be nice
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Well one things for sure, Ive found out that Naza/Kia SC is much much better than Honda nowadays. WTF happened to honda malaysia man.
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:23 AM)
i also heard unpleasant stories from those who bought hyundai cars

i guess for the next purchase not only have to drive the car... but go survey the
service centre as well, right?
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I got more unpleasant story of my ex-Cibik kapcai rather than my new hankook tyre biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 6 2012, 11:22 AM)
Well one things for sure, Ive found out that Naza/Kia SC is much much better than Honda nowadays. WTF happened to honda malaysia man.
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true - true. used to shadow my friend when he send his honda @ sc summit/subang there.
but what i like about honda they are up front with their svc charge woo - i can see on their website


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I got more unpleasant story of my ex-Cibik kapcai rather than my new hankook tyre  biggrin.gif
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lol
so from a sonata owner ourself - how does the sc/service q/warranty claim so far?

hyundai is under auto connexion right?
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so from a sonata owner ourself - how does the sc/service q/warranty claim so far?

hyundai is under auto connexion right?
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Warranty claim for sure very sow compare to Honda lor.. Also Honda SC got free nescafe & nasi lemak but Hyundai got small waiting room and no food...Got pros & cons.. but interm of cars... hankuk got less problem than Honda kapcai for sure haha...furthermore..much comfortable..The only complain I have now if the engine is not as refine as kapcai...vibration level & noise worst than my old kapcai lor.. but that also under warranty claim on mounting liao biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Apr 6 2012, 11:37 AM)
Warranty claim for sure very sow compare to Honda lor.. Also Honda SC got free nescafe & nasi lemak but Hyundai got small waiting room and no food...Got pros & cons.. but interm of cars... hankuk got less problem than Honda kapcai for sure haha...furthermore..much comfortable..The only complain I have now if the engine is not as refine as kapcai...vibration level & noise worst than my old kapcai lor.. but that also under warranty claim on mounting liao  biggrin.gif
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ic ic...

which sc u usually send you car? maybe i want to survey it later later

contemplating passat cc or sonata - sure the price range different but i like the 'coupe' body of both

but now since everybody hyping / praising preve kaw kaw - i want to wait a bit - mebi can save alot
on monthly can hire new staff huhuh sweat.gif
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QUOTE(edifier78 @ Apr 6 2012, 11:44 AM)
ic ic...

which sc u usually send you car? maybe i want to survey it later later

contemplating passat cc or sonata - sure the price range different but i like the 'coupe' body of both

but now since everybody hyping / praising preve kaw kaw - i want to wait a bit - mebi can save alot
on monthly can hire new staff huhuh  sweat.gif
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You mean kapcai ro hankook SC? biggrin.gif

For Kapcai - Most SC..super long que.. hv to wait for hours wan or leaving your car 1/2 day there.. but I found one gooding wan in Nanyang Klang Town.. damn fast, nasi lemak, kueh teaw goreng all have rclxms.gif

For Hankook.. Those in Puchong really spoilt liao..Got 2 official Hyundai SC there.. one in Puteri, One beside IOI Mall & One near Tesco. I normally goto the Puteri wan..better serbis but sometime lotsa cars during weekend but so far never waited more than 1 hr haha rclxms.gif ..The one in IOI Mall..no need to wait wan..straight masuk can serbis liao..no que at all but the formen not so gooding lor.. sad.gif
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You mean kapcai ro hankook SC?  biggrin.gif

For Kapcai - Most SC..super long que.. hv to wait for hours wan or leaving your car 1/2 day there.. but I found one gooding wan in Nanyang Klang Town.. damn fast, nasi lemak, kueh teaw goreng all have  rclxms.gif

For Hankook.. Those in Puchong really spoilt liao..Got 2 official Hyundai SC there.. one in Puteri, One beside IOI Mall & One near Tesco. I normally goto the Puteri wan..better serbis but sometime lotsa cars during weekend but so far never waited more than 1 hr haha  rclxms.gif ..The one in IOI Mall..no need to wait wan..straight masuk can serbis liao..no que at all but the formen not so gooding lor.. sad.gif
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The only korean car that is really selling in malaysia is kia forte, even then the figures are not that impressive. The rest i barely see on the road...sonata only see it once in a blue moon and i live in the klang valley.

The only reason kia forte is selling is cause it's cheap. If a civic 2.0 or kia forte 2.0 sold at same price, would anyone buy the korean? lol.
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kesian, your klang valley must be quite klang..my klang valley quite a lot..

civic and forte same price, probably i will take forte..
other than vroomm, else civic<forte, but not to look down on forte 2.0 engine, i heard it is abang adik with mitsubishi lancer 2.0, same father but different mother yo!

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Belakang sikit copy Sonata liao
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korean car take over japanese car?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA joke of the decade
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Belakang sikit copy Sonata liao
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There are tons of cars that have that kind of tailights even before Sonata. That kind of rear end design is too common in car industries. I really wonder how peoples will see only Sonata when they see that kind of rear end design.
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QUOTE(WanMB @ Apr 6 2012, 06:06 PM)
There are tons of cars that have that kind of tailights even before Sonata. That kind of rear end design is too common in car industries. I really wonder how peoples will see only Sonata when they see that kind of rear end design.
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Sonata also copy belakang Merc SLK wan mar  biggrin.gif ..But lotsa car also copy Proton Perona/Gen 2 front light for sure  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(WanMB @ Apr 6 2012, 06:17 PM)
I cannot brain this.  doh.gif How is Sonata rear copied Merc SLK.

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Anyway, I still prefer Japanese car over Koreans.
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Opsss I ter-typo liao haha..Merc CLS not SLK  blush.gif

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Dunno, pipu on the road said so wan lor...they said sonata copied merc lor..sumore said Korean panlai copy merc..I also lol lor haha
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Dunno, pipu on the road said so wan lor...they said sonata copied merc lor..sumore said Korean panlai copy merc..I also lol lor haha
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Anyway, I must admit - The sonata YF - poorfag Merc,

Sonata NF - poorman Accord
and lagi older Sonata - Poorman Jaguar

haha and Lotsa Japanese cars copied from Gen2 for sure liao haha
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We might as well say that Bentley copied Merc or Merc copied Bentley of the twin round headlamps.
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Anyway, I must admit - The sonata YF - poorfag Merc,

Sonata NF - poorman Accord
and lagi older Sonata - Poorman Jaguar

haha and Lotsa Japanese cars copied from Gen2 for sure liao haha
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I see the design of Gen2 in lotsa Nippon cars lor..ehh even conti..and gen2 already old liao..so it must be true liao  biggrin.gif
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we must remember that korean car maker tend to focus more on aesthetic while japanese car tend to balance between exterior, interior & performance

in terms of performance of cos korean cars are far behind japanese cars
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They're completely different lar and similar shape headlights in cars are common. You might as well say Proton copied BMW 5er for that headlights.
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Belakang macam forte aje~~
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japanese ok ma. just that malaysia abit ulu.

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japanese ok ma. just that malaysia abit ulu.

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I posted Honda SC experience 1st liao lor on pg6
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I owned a NAZA KIA Forte SX.
The reason I bought it is because the specs worth for the price...I can get some of the features offered in premium cars(VW/BMW/MERC) in this car that Civic/Altis don't have, yet the safety of the car is very good, the chassis is really very very tough, compare with Altis/Civic....build quality is much better than the overpricey Toyota n Honda cars(leave Nissan out coz Nissan really give good price too-Sylphy)...
I owned the car since end of May2010...no major problems, service wise is on par with Civic/Altis pricing...Spare part wise is considerable on par too with Civic/Altis(my front 2 absorbers rosak due to drive over tembok while evading front vehicle only cost me 1 set Genuine KIA at RM2xx)
Petrol consumption at full city drive can go up to 390-410km per full tank RON95(1.90)@52L, so i can say at 1.6L heavy car is ald consider very fuel economy car..
B4 i bought this car, i was also browsing Toyota Altis 1.8/Toyota VIOS 1.5 TRD n Honda City/Civic 1.8...quality wise n feature wise, still KIA wins, no nid say design too(even my Toyota die hard fans father also admit it)...
As for resale value, u all always think of the price selling it, but never thought of how much when u bought it at 1st and how much loses when u selling it....
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2002 Sonata vs 2002 Camry
OTR price(2002) : 120k vs. 150k (30k difference)
U saw on the price used car sell in 2011 : 25k vs. 50k (25k difference)
The loses of the cost compare 2002-2011 : 95k vs. 100k (5k difference)
ended up, acually Sonata got the better value than camry...juz that ppl see camry 2nd hand is 50k, means better resale value...but when they bought the car new @ 150k...
So, please think of what is really meaning behind 'Resale Value' b4 posting on resale value stuffs...


Added on July 27, 2012, 10:23 amOh, if u all wan compare high-end/premium car between Lexus/Acura n Hyundai/KIA
Plz do vs Lexus /Acura models vs. KIA K7/K9 and Hyundai Grandeur/Equus...

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Top 12 most reliablrcar manufacturer

1 Honda (Japan)
2 Toyota (Japan)
3 Lexus (Japan)
4 Suzuki (Japan)
5 Subaru (Japan)
6 Hyundai (South Korea)
6 Mazda (Japan)
6 Mitsubishi (Japan)
9 Chevrolet
10 Nissan (Japan)
11 Kia (South Korea)
12 Ford
12 Skoda

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Sure can... their electronic products such as LG, Samsung already same level or might be beyond  the Japanese products
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