Hi howiechoo is it okay to do sound deadening on a car first before changing speakers and amp next time? Planning to improve sound isolation and ride first before getting into ICE.

Because as I see from videos online the foam sticked on the door panels overlaid all the existing cables. I also dunno what cable is that. So if i need to install/change speakers there's no need to remove and damage the foams right? As in the speaker installation won't be affected/obstrusted right? Sorry for the noob question

Hi everyone. Just got into ICE recently. I just love music that I've decided to invest some $ on it. My current setup so far is Kenwood KDC - 100U as my HU, Morel Maximo 6.5 component as my front speaker while back speakers remained stock. Planning to upgrade my back speaker to Focal 165 ISC coaxial/Pioneer TS-D1602R/JBL GTO-629 coaxial/ or any other better rated coaxials at that price range. No amps for now. Would need suggestions on what amps to use to drive these back speakers and front components. Doors have been treated with 1 layer of vibration dampening while floors are treated with vibration dampening and basic acoustic foam insulation. Plan to install insulation on doors somewhere in the future. Not planning to install sub at the moment. Perhaps a Underseat sub if I ever change my mind/everything else is done. Not planning to sacrifice space for a sub in the boot. Perodua axia.

Questions.

What amps should I go for these setup? (JBL, Pioneer, Alpine, Polk, Focal?) Budget about 500-1k (I'm open to suggestions for price slightly higher if it's worth the price/performance ratio)
What model should I go for the back coaxials? Is there big differences between Morel Maximo and Tempo series? (I did consider using the same brand for the coaxials as well)

TQ

Music genre. R&B, classical, any other genres in between... Love emphasis on vocal reproduction, non fatiguing highs, tight quality bass (non boomy).

This post has been edited by nuttyking91: Oct 27 2016, 02:39 AM

IMO the first step would be to do a proper sound deadening before installing the speaker setups. sound deadening the floor and door would be a great start. perhaps components for front and subwoofer with amp? Budget wise in the end is up to you cuz not everyone is willing to spend alot on ICE. Perhaps 2-3k for a start? 1k + for basic sound deadening and another half for basic speaker setup? then u will go on from there... or maybe if u feel that ur speakers are fine for now u can add a subwoofer and an amp and from there only u decide

This post has been edited by nuttyking91: Oct 28 2016, 01:32 PM

minimise the vibrations caused when u have a better sound systems ie speakers in ur car. as u turn up the volume, the door panel will rattle along with the speaker. so adding foam/sound deadening layer will minimise the vibrations and aso reduce some of the exterior noise. Some people said that sound deadening ur car is almost useless and it doesn't bring much difference. Well highly debatable topic. I think you can get better suggestions reading the forums as I myself are not good at this Not many ppl active here nowadays. Of course you can spend less than that. I feel that there is solution for every budget bracket

any advice for my setup? akallen

This post has been edited by nuttyking91: Nov 1 2016, 04:55 PM

i wouldn't consider myself knowledgeable. but I have interest and love for music and thus speakers and headphones... but car setup is a totally new game... got to consider road noise, vibrations induced by speakers, etc.

if u step into 80prs, u are into the high end ICE category already, although there are even higher end ones... if u get into this range, be prepare to spend more on other components if u want to make sure there is no bottleneck performance in ur setup. amps, wiring, components need to match the level of the 80prs performance capabilities or else it's not really worth it. using high end HU but entry level components and amps will not do justice for the 80prs. u will of cuz get nice sound using the high end HU, but the HU is unable to unleash it's full potential due to other entry level components. Just my opinion. More experienced sifus can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm still learning here.

this? http://www.fasmoto.com/audio-video/head-un...eer-deh-x8750bt

or

http://www.fasmoto.com/audio-video/head-un...eer-deh-x6850bt

active sub! boot active sub or underseat sub? envy cars with super big boot space y the rear door speaker? front should be the first to be upgraded unless u want ur rear passengers to enjoy quality music first if rear vs HU, I'd personally go for HU first. Front wise a better option would be component speakers for better soundstage. Just my 2 cents.

well alot of people love boom boom sub for me quality bass matters more than quantity bass... I think it really depends on the type of subwoofers... high quality subwoofers do produces a really good bass, undistorted while being able to produce deep low bass at high volumes. Usually that type of subwoofer needs a high powered monoblock amp to work. what model of undersub are you using?

both brands are good choices. but i'd prefer the design of pioneer

this version? http://www.mudah.my/ORIGINAL+MB+QUART+8+Ac...52-46201683.htm my priority for now is an amp and further sound deaden my doors. underseat sub perhaps later on

looking for only 2 din HU? If 1-DIN u can find many models which supports FLAC

that depends on how hard core are you into audio. If you're already playing with home audio and headphones/IEMs with amps, chances are you will be only satisfied with an amp to power your speakers in ur car :Dlow grade stock speakers don't benefit much from amps but i think aftermarket speakers do benefit from amps... but difference in terms of what need to consult ICE sifu here d. Like me, I might think that my components and entry lvl HU are already a huge improvement from the stock speakers... but one will not be certain on what improvements an amp will give... especially what amps that bring the best performance out from ur upgraded speakers... One can only listen to the A/B test to know for sure... or any experienced ICE enthusiasts. Ppl like me which are not experienced and do not a much ICE shops in my area only can rely on forums for more insight

i assume you are looking for a LCD monitor version... try kenwood... usually kenwood can support flac. http://www.kenwood.com/my/car/visual_navig...9016s/spec.html http://www.kenwood.com/my/car/visual_navig...16wbt/spec.html

This post has been edited by nuttyking91: Nov 9 2016, 10:50 PM

powerful is not really my primary aim here though. I am looking for a cleaner sound,fuller and higher detail, a better separation of instruments and beats and perhaps less distortion? perhaps a more defined low mids and mids. Will an amp give these improvements?

This post has been edited by nuttyking91: Nov 10 2016, 10:59 PM

not sure over in that area though. EA autoworks is a great place for audio installation. Hishly recommended. Been to sh0rty5's shop in klang, Very friendly and recommended too.

well I'm not sure how loud is loud and I don't dare to turn the volume knob to max to see the max volume. but without amp I find that at around volume 15 only can provide me with the oomph needed to listen to music. That's with loudness and bass boost on to max. I heard that loudness and bass boost also makes the sound not natural and should be remained off if possible. Perhaps the sound could be tuned better with an amp.

if you're looking for branded ones then u can go for models like this one. http://www.kenwood.com/my/car/visual_navig...016bt/spec.html
supports airplay
this model from pioneer supports spotify but im not sure about mirroring from ur phone though http://www.pioneer.my/my/products-detail/i...uct=AVH-X2850BT if u dont mind other brands there's actually alot of other China/Taiwan brands below 1k that can support such features