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ZZR-Pilot
post Jan 25 2016, 10:36 PM

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Got a Pioneer 10" dvc sub rated at 350rms... thinking of stuffing it in a sealed enclosure & hooking it up to a 5-channel d-class amp whose sub channel puts out 280w at 2 ohms.

Is the amp too underpowered for SQ enjoyment? I listen mostly to latin music with lots of percussions. Not the headbanging fengtau type.... too old for that stuff.

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post Jan 27 2016, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 26 2016, 10:19 PM)
dun worry, when the sub are feed with 350rms it's already blown...the 250w from ur amp is ok
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Thanks Howie.

But I don't understand... how can a sub rated at 350W RMS blow when fed with 350W of power?


QUOTE(izso @ Jan 27 2016, 03:34 PM)
Nothing wrong with underpowering the sub, but it's pointless to do so since you'll be severely under utilizing the sub. Percussions has a lot of tapping and snares I would assume and with a weak sub you won't be able to get that feel.
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Thanks. Got a question - how underpowered is underpowered? 25% below the sub's RMS output? 30% blow?

I hear underpowering a sub will feed it with distortion which will kill the sub over time. Trouble is there's no rule of thumb on how low you can go when underpowering a sub before creating problems. I don't think most of us are rich enough to buy superduper powderful monoblocks, so I think my concern is shared by many.

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post Feb 4 2016, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Feb 4 2016, 11:45 AM)
Your sub RMS is 350w (I assume), you don't need a super duper amp to give you 350w. Most bridgeable amps can give that sort of power and most monoblocks minimally provide 500w. So you don't have to be rich to buy a decent amp. The only thing is you need to know what you're buying. In a lot of cases, amps over-rate themselves and produce less than advertised or something along those lines. Just stick with reputable brands and reputable sellers and you'll be fine.
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Thee sub that I have is the Pioneer TS-W259D4 DVC rated at 350W RMS at 2ohm. There's a pair of Pioneer TS-A1605C components up front rated at 50W RMS at 4ohm and another pair of Pioneer TS-G1644R coax in the rear rated at 40W RMS at 4 Ohm.

Late last week I found into an Alpine MRX-V70 5-channel amp on the cheap that can do 60W x4 at 4ohm and 350W at 2ohm for the sub channel. The numbers seem to match well with the budget speakers I have... so I bought it.

Funny these Alpine amps - they come with a 'birth cert', which is an individual certificate that shows how that particular unit was tested and how much power it actually outputs in real life during the test just before it left the factory. My Alpine's birth cert numbers are actually higher than the advertised output!


 

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