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 Need recommendation/advice for CarAudio system V2, Please use this thread (omg v1 Aug 2005)

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post Nov 15 2012, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 15 2012, 04:38 PM)
nice! rclxms.gif
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post Nov 15 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 15 2012, 04:19 PM)
Back from Howie Shop! and really my money magically gone..
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convert your money to please your ears, tame your heart and keep your emotion positive, few k is worth the spend bro....lol
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post Nov 16 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 15 2012, 04:38 PM)
rclxms.gif OMG, wonderful SQ setup you have~~Good job bro


Added on November 16, 2012, 2:20 pm
QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 15 2012, 11:24 PM)
convert your money to please your ears, tame your heart and keep your emotion positive, few k is worth the spend bro....lol
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LOL, totally agree on this, but only spend within budget. biggrin.gif

I also cannot tolerate bad music from my car.

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post Nov 16 2012, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 15 2012, 11:24 PM)
convert your money to please your ears, tame your heart and keep your emotion positive, few k is worth the spend bro....lol
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Howie the sound... the bass omg...

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I really need the sound proof!!! lulz

I notice something i open my window, my bass sounded stronger lulz

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post Nov 16 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 16 2012, 07:34 PM)
Howie the sound... the bass omg...

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I really need the sound proof!!! lulz

I notice something i open my window, my bass sounded stronger lulz
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most car will have this prob, open window the sound pressure will be moving in and out, so u will feel it's louder..ur car is actually a sub box, the window is the port smile.gif


Added on November 16, 2012, 11:33 pmbut a very good car/install/design will have almost same spl level...hard to achieve...

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post Nov 17 2012, 07:11 PM

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hi sifus, i need some advice.. i seem to like a bit of rear fill in my car as it sounded more 'complete' to my ears. may i know wad's d best cut off frequency for rear fill? 5kHz?? i read somewhere tat too much highs at d rear is not a good idea...

wad i'm using now is front components powered by amp plus coaxial 3-way speaker at d rear shelve powered by HU. initially i dont like d sound as d highs r coming from all over. i tried to fade it to d front or completely turned off d rear but it sounded 'hollow somewhere' (i dunno how to describe....it just sounded weird).... thus i experimented by disconnecting d small wires to d coaxial tweeters at d rear n d overall sound is much better. am i doing the right thing?

also would like to know if there's difference where d location of rear speakers are. it seems tat most japanese cars hv their rear speakers at d doors while Protons still hv theirs on rear shelves. does it makes a lot of difference?? thanks!

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QUOTE(hcgui @ Nov 17 2012, 07:11 PM)
hi sifus, i need some advice.. i seem to like a bit of rear fill in my car as it sounded more 'complete' to my ears. may i know wad's d best cut off frequency for rear fill? 5kHz?? i read somewhere tat too much highs at d rear is not a good idea...

wad i'm using now is front components powered by amp plus coaxial 3-way speaker at d rear shelve powered by HU. initially i dont like d sound as d highs r coming from all over. i tried to fade it to d front or completely turned off d rear but it sounded 'hollow somewhere' (i dunno how to describe....it just sounded weird).... thus i experimented by disconnecting d small wires to d coaxial tweeters at d rear n d overall sound is much better. am i doing the right thing?

also would like to know if there's difference where d location of rear speakers are. it seems tat most japanese cars hv their rear speakers at d doors while Protons still hv theirs on rear shelves. does it makes a lot of difference?? thanks!
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My car have rear speakers at the back and I just fade the rear fill quite a lot smile.gif
Need to wait for those Ice sifus to reply smile.gif but I tested with too much highs at the back and it sounded like the soundstage being dragged to the back which is no good
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QUOTE(hcgui @ Nov 17 2012, 07:11 PM)
hi sifus, i need some advice.. i seem to like a bit of rear fill in my car as it sounded more 'complete' to my ears. may i know wad's d best cut off frequency for rear fill? 5kHz?? i read somewhere tat too much highs at d rear is not a good idea...

wad i'm using now is front components powered by amp plus coaxial 3-way speaker at d rear shelve powered by HU. initially i dont like d sound as d highs r coming from all over. i tried to fade it to d front or completely turned off d rear but it sounded 'hollow somewhere' (i dunno how to describe....it just sounded weird).... thus i experimented by disconnecting d small wires to d coaxial tweeters at d rear n d overall sound is much better. am i doing the right thing?

also would like to know if there's difference where d location of rear speakers are. it seems tat most japanese cars hv their rear speakers at d doors while Protons still hv theirs on rear shelves. does it makes a lot of difference?? thanks!
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fren, the "complete" you mean are actually because u lack of sub bass....add in a sub will be the real deal....ur rear spk are giving u the echoed bass and u might think it's more complete as it generate a better ambience to ur car by the echoed bass, by getting a sub u will eliminate this problem and have a beautiful front stage with lotsa nice ambience...on 15th, i and a few elantra owner had been playing with component, amp and sub for a few hours...after the sub come in, you will totally forget about the rear fill and concentrade on the front nice staging

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 17 2012, 08:53 PM)
fren, the "complete" you mean are actually because u lack of sub bass....add in a sub will be the real deal....ur rear spk are giving u the echoed bass and u might think it's more complete as it generate a better ambience to ur car by the echoed bass, by getting a sub u will eliminate this problem and have a beautiful front stage with lotsa nice ambience...on 15th, i and a few elantra owner had been playing with component, amp and sub for a few hours...after the sub come in, you will totally forget about the rear fill and concentrade on the front nice staging
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I need subs ASAP lolz tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 17 2012, 08:58 PM)
I need subs ASAP lolz tongue.gif
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haha, 2pc W7 ???
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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 17 2012, 09:16 PM)
haha, 2pc W7 ???
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Haha w7 how much lolz
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post Nov 17 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 17 2012, 08:53 PM)
fren, the "complete" you mean are actually because u lack of sub bass....add in a sub will be the real deal....ur rear spk are giving u the echoed bass and u might think it's more complete as it generate a better ambience to ur car by the echoed bass, by getting a sub u will eliminate this problem and have a beautiful front stage with lotsa nice ambience...on 15th, i and a few elantra owner had been playing with component, amp and sub for a few hours...after the sub come in, you will totally forget about the rear fill and concentrade on the front nice staging
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but i already hv a Kenwood active tube sub in d boot playing 80hz n below wor... not enuf kick? altho it's only 8" but i do feel bass is quite enuf in my car now leh.... hmmm....
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 17 2012, 08:58 PM)
I need subs ASAP lolz tongue.gif
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i think 2 W3 10" gonna chew ur Amp ady


Added on November 17, 2012, 11:57 pmBtw Howie, how come 128kbps sound softer?

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post Nov 18 2012, 04:21 AM

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QUOTE(hcgui @ Nov 17 2012, 07:11 PM)
also would like to know if there's difference where d location of rear speakers are. it seems tat most japanese cars hv their rear speakers at d doors while Protons still hv theirs on rear shelves. does it makes a lot of difference?? thanks!
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actually japanese cars have both rear speakers and speakers at the door panels.

my nissan sentra is exactly that mind you, and hell most of them use that as marketing too (eg: 6 speakers! 12 speakers!)


Added on November 18, 2012, 4:22 am
QUOTE(hcgui @ Nov 17 2012, 10:49 PM)
but i already hv a Kenwood active tube sub in d boot playing 80hz n below wor... not enuf kick? altho it's only 8" but i do feel bass is quite enuf in my car now leh....  hmmm....
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there's your problem smile.gif


Added on November 18, 2012, 4:23 am
QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 17 2012, 11:56 PM)
i think 2 W3 10" gonna chew ur Amp ady


Added on November 17, 2012, 11:57 pmBtw Howie, how come 128kbps sound softer?
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mp3 bit rate? not enough bitrate/details and the player (HU, or DAC) unable to play it.
that or the mastering/ripping of said file has the volume done low.

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 17 2012, 11:56 PM)
i think 2 W3 10" gonna chew ur Amp ady


Added on November 17, 2012, 11:57 pmBtw Howie, how come 128kbps sound softer?
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haha I'm getting dedicated monoblock ams for those subs lolz tongue.gif
And for the mp3 bitrate maybe your 320kbps is actually less than 128kbps just upscaled
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post Nov 18 2012, 01:38 PM

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Sub tongue.gif




Added on November 18, 2012, 4:22 pmWhat is HPF slope and LPF Slope?

Im playing around with HPF

I just put both Rear and Front Pass. and it sounded better.
will it damage my tweeter if i put both pass?

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QUOTE(hcgui @ Nov 17 2012, 10:49 PM)
but i already hv a Kenwood active tube sub in d boot playing 80hz n below wor... not enuf kick? altho it's only 8" but i do feel bass is quite enuf in my car now leh....  hmmm....
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try a real sub


Added on November 18, 2012, 9:27 pm
QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 18 2012, 01:38 PM)
Sub  tongue.gif




Added on November 18, 2012, 4:22 pmWhat is HPF slope and LPF Slope?

Im playing around with HPF

I just put both Rear and Front Pass. and it sounded better.
will it damage my tweeter if i put both pass?
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if u hand itchy, dun ask me to tune again ya..lol

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post Nov 18 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 18 2012, 09:26 PM)
try a real sub


Added on November 18, 2012, 9:27 pm
if u hand itchy, dun ask me to tune again ya..lol
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hand itchy itchy ma want get awesome sound what xD

Howie what is slope for HPF ?
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post Nov 19 2012, 06:49 AM

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Long live JL subs!
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er...

that depends on how much of a audiophile are you i guess...

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