I always advocate that if you are happy with what you have, you should retire. The end of the audio nirvana road is happiness, NOT the best in the world.

With that said, I reckon you should come yamcha with sifu mwc B4 you order the simonte. should show you what you can do with rm2150 b4 reaching out to expensive cables.

the list of speakers better than utopia is long. i type too slow to list them out. "lets see which is better", if you can still smile after a small group lyn ice tt, I would like very much to make your acquaintance.

master anakonda..............

The best is the setup that suit your ears.

And I am not anaconda~

You're already in love with Utopia so no matter what I say will not change your mind. For 4.5K there are lots of other brands out there that are so much better than Utopia la.

Focal and Alpine (PDX) has been the norm in terms of setup so yes I've heard the combination. It's great for sure, but I've heard better for the same money. Again, what's good is completely subjective. You like Utopia, I like Dynaudio, someone else probably Scanspeak. Have a listen to the Dynaudio Esotec or Esotar range of car audio powered with something considerably powerful like a TRU Billet or Brax. It's a different kind of sound. Drop by Audiocreations and have a listen to their Revatio / Scanspeak setup too.

The type-X sub is quite the performer too. But for the price the JL's are more value for money and not to mention the type-X uses quite a lot of power to really perform. So the amp you use for it will most likely be expensive. You should try a class-AB amp to power the sub and you'll hear the difference in sound. TRU Hammer would be the epitome of crazy-ass class-AB monoblocks. But lots of other 2-channels can be bridged to work subs.

Ultimately you can have all the best equipment, but if your installer is a crack, it'll sound like crap.

utopia be 3way is nice. not too mention the beautiful craft on their passive network which worth rm4k+ (optional)
its refined sounding with all the good merits. playing vocal cd is excellent.
to me the only thing was it sounded a bit thin and cant play well on hip hop or other music genre

alpine pdx amp are based on class D topology. for decades class D is known to have high efficiency 90%. they look good on data specs but listening test is another issue.
but lately home hifi reputable manufacturer like audio research is said to have a new lineup based on class D which can sound as good as their class AB with added bonus of higher power rating due to class D topology.
for car audio, yet to have any manufacturer dare to claim their class D amp is as good as classAB.

overall class D amp will alwiz give u high power rating without costing due to its nature

This post has been edited by carcrazy: Sep 20 2012, 05:39 PM

hmm i agree with u on the first statement. if ur happy better to retire. Have u heard of it this simonte cables? its quite good tho. yess we shall have a TT soon. for now this is what i have. Not sure ill upgrade anymore, time to buy a house now =)

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Added on September 20, 2012, 12:25 pmhahaha, yes im in love with the utopia line. hmm maybe il try listening to the brands above, no harm there. Which JL would be the best in par with the Type X? Yes the PDX M-12 is pricy, but sounds good. Ok what is the difference between a class Ab Mono and Class D? when u say difference in sound means? bcs i love intellegent amps, they follow the music, when bass is required, the bang, if not non. thats why i choose the Type X with the PDX, regardless of the cost. Yes if the installer is no good, no point fixing the best.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 12:28 pmSo the class AB is better then the class D? Then why is the PDX series so pricy?

This post has been edited by jasdeep007: Sep 20 2012, 12:28 PM

basically you already have all the best product in your mind..so is the sound is best?

Not really, it need tuning.. for now its average. will see my installer ones im back.

actually no, i've never heard of simonte, could well be the best cables in the world. But what i'm sayin is other areas of the system may require attn b4 the need to spend that amount on cables. Maybe later, but not yet i think.

Mid to upper range JL will seloter TypeX.
Good high powered AB monos are more expensive than PDX. How much is the M-12 anyway?
Go google TRU Hammer.

This post has been edited by krayden: Sep 20 2012, 01:28 PM

Thinking of upgrading my tweets. Using Coral now. Should i go for the Vifa xt25sc? Active setup.

May I know what HU are you using? And your current ride is?

On the ride, I just want to know not to say I want to hijack your car lar....

When it comes to JL, i like the W7 sub.but dont know the price. The PDX M-12 is going for RM2600.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 2:40 pmBut the JL audio subs are are running on the same Watts RMS as the Type X.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 2:43 pmIm using Alpine 9855 HU, i drive a noisy car, Satria Neo R3.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 2:49 pmHmm i went throw the TRU Hammer, The RMS power is very low for a 4ohm Sub.

This post has been edited by jasdeep007: Sep 20 2012, 02:49 PM

but music isn't measured by watts/RMS

SQ right?

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Added on September 20, 2012, 3:29 pmHmm Which AB mono will be on par or better then the PDX? price range below 3K

This post has been edited by jasdeep007: Sep 20 2012, 03:29 PM

doesnt matter on SQ/SPL/SQL la lolz

Alright then how is it measured?

if u want to judge SQ there is useless looking for speaker spec read jor= no read. wan to know the sound quality, plug in and test 1 by 1

one's happiness perhaps? how does one measure happiness then?

i always read this article just to remind me the root of this hobby

---happiness----

"Perhaps the most unusual part of Jeff's system is his speaker placement. I have only one set of speakers in the car because I did not want to disturb the interior."

"I have the tweeters up front in the dash and the woofers in the rear deck."

"Several installers said it couldn't be done this way without loss in sound quality, but this is what I wanted, and I am happy with the sound."

conclusion----ice is bout pleasing our ears/make us smiles not pleasing others

sometimes, losing details are called "warm"..i learned this in forum