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 Need recommendation/advice for CarAudio system V2, Please use this thread (omg v1 Aug 2005)

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post Jan 23 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 23 2013, 02:12 AM)
Thursday full. Those who booked earlier come as usual. No booking then sorry. smile.gif
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Come early got discount? brows.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 23 2013, 06:53 PM

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post Jan 23 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 23 2013, 12:22 PM)
if u just need a good daily listen setup, a 4" coaxial and an active sub will be enuff......let me know if u drop by...thanks
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Thanks for the recommendation. Will probably drop by at your shop next week or the week after. I'll give u a call first for sure. Thanks bro. nod.gif
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post Jan 23 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(will92 @ Jan 23 2013, 06:43 PM)
Come early got discount?  brows.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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got, buy all tea first then only talk about discount
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post Jan 23 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(finch! @ Jan 23 2013, 07:47 PM)
Thanks for the recommendation. Will probably drop by at your shop next week or the week after. I'll give u a call first for sure. Thanks bro.  nod.gif
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no prob :<>
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post Jan 23 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 23 2013, 08:32 PM)
got, buy all tea first then only talk about discount
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post Jan 23 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 22 2013, 08:47 PM)
direct listen to instrument without going thru amplifier or watever is analog. synthesizer and e.guitar are playing thru amplifier and converter to generate the sound..so it's digital...
most analog system i heard is not really analog....a drum that make the whole car shake like you are inside the band are not called analog....no sound engineer make the cd sounds like you are inside the band, they only make the band right in front of you. This is stereo. not applicable to surround system.
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Which one sound better?
High End active or passive system, which one can reproduce the music 'better' compare to the live music!? Just curious....

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post Jan 24 2013, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(kkeetan @ Jan 23 2013, 11:48 PM)
Which one sound better?
High End active or passive system, which one can reproduce the music 'better' compare to the live music!? Just curious....
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If my suggestion counts, I would say active, you can have more control on each channel(of course, provided your each channel can be controlled).

To me, passive sound more lay back....

Personal preference then.
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post Jan 24 2013, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jan 24 2013, 08:24 AM)
If my suggestion counts, I would say active, you can have more control on each channel(of course, provided your each channel can be controlled).

To me, passive sound more lay back....

Personal preference then.
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Passive more laid back yea
So I might stay passive or just make the jump to active haha
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 24 2013, 08:55 AM)
Passive more laid back yea
So I might stay passive or just make the jump to active haha
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There are pros and cons, basically up to personal preference. But if you plan to play TA, then active would be the best.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jan 24 2013, 09:02 AM)
There are pros and cons, basically up to personal preference. But if you plan to play TA, then active would be the best.
Suara-nya bulat bulat tepat didepan anda.
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Hmm just give up my passive crossover
As I already got my new amp in case I play active tongue.gif
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post Jan 24 2013, 11:19 AM

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Cepat cepat main active la. Then late a bit go for 3 way. Bmw with 3 way banyak bergaya ni laugh.gif
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post Jan 24 2013, 11:46 PM

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post Jan 25 2013, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(kkeetan @ Jan 23 2013, 11:48 PM)
Which one sound better?
High End active or passive system, which one can reproduce the music 'better' compare to the live music!? Just curious....
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It's a controversial topic.

A really good passive setup can shine if setup correctly but the passives alone probably will cost an arm and a leg. And you'll need to be very patient in testing all the different cap brands and combinations.

A really good active setup can also shine if you have a very good external crossover. The inbuilt crossover in HUs these days is too basic even though it does do the work. Plonk in a very well tuned audiocontrol or a processor and it'll be heaven and earth difference.


Now, if you phrase your question differently and put a cap on the price "Would an active setup costing RM3k sound 'better' than a passive setup costing RM3k?"

My answer would then by yes. But if you jack up the budget to 10k, then the answer would be "not necessarily"
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post Jan 25 2013, 09:15 AM

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So its better active then haa
But what if u bought a top of the line passive from a speaker manufacturer ?
How is it vs active? I'll be happy to know lol
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post Jan 25 2013, 09:35 AM

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top of the line means nothing, materials used means something...

good electrical design on the passive filter circuit means everything.
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post Jan 25 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 25 2013, 09:15 AM)
So its better active then haa
But what if u bought a top of the line passive from a speaker manufacturer ?
How is it vs active? I'll be happy to know lol
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The crossover that make the difference. izso just said you will need to test with different caps, or also from different brand.

You can always experience different setup and decide what suit you the best.

2 way, 3 way also can. But I prefer 2 way with the 2" tweeter.
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post Jan 25 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jan 25 2013, 11:00 AM)
The crossover that make the difference. izso just said you will need to test with different caps, or also from different brand.

You can always experience different setup and decide what suit you the best.

2 way, 3 way also can. But I prefer 2 way with the 2" tweeter.
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O I see
So what 2 inch tweeter? Is it dominations?
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post Jan 25 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 25 2013, 11:20 AM)
O I see
So what 2 inch tweeter? Is it dominations?
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Yes, I like it. It might not suit everyone because it emphasize on the vocal very much.
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 25 2013, 09:15 AM)
So its better active then haa
But what if u bought a top of the line passive from a speaker manufacturer ?
How is it vs active? I'll be happy to know lol
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If you're gonna talk about OEM passives, the most expensive passives you can find are.... OEM. Meaning it's ultimately still designed with cost and pricing in mind.

If you're talking about custom made passives or modified passives, then you're gonna give active setups a run for their money. People always complain that Dynaudios are hard to run and need massive power. It's not entirely true, with the original passive you'll need big power (preferably). I had my passives modified with a whole lot of Mundorf stuff and an amp with just 100w RMS is more than enough to make it sing quite well. But the Mundorf parts kinda changed the characteristics of the speakers and wasn't quite what I wanted so I'm not using them anymore.

So basically if you fiddle around with the hundreds of audio-quality caps, resisters and whatever, you might actually get a pretty interesting sound passive setup. The last time I saw an extreme custom passive, it was the size of a Alpine PDX amp. Massively huge and had so many huge expensive caps on it. One of the caps costs RM450 to buy per piece! Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to hear this expensive passive but point is you can do a lot with passives if you have the patience to learn and fiddle around with the different brands.

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