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 Need recommendation/advice for CarAudio system V2, Please use this thread (omg v1 Aug 2005)

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insane.gamer
post Jan 7 2013, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 7 2013, 01:53 AM)
if you want a better quality HU, then opt for second hand (or maybe parallel imports if you dont mind warranty issues)
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what about PIONEER DEH-2350UB will it be able to fit my car ? i found it at a reasonable price. totally lost in this subject tongue.gif and also do i need any other components for it to work ? sweat.gif

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post Jan 7 2013, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Jan 7 2013, 02:02 AM)
what about PIONEER DEH-2350UB will it be able to fit my car ? i found it at a reasonable price. totally lost in this subject  tongue.gif and also do i need any other components for it to work ? sweat.gif
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that alone iss good enough. smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 6 2013, 01:49 AM)
biggest difference between the 2 is active offers more tuning (eg: cross over frequencies, specific gains and what not. for better or worse hence forever headache) while passive tuning options are limited to HU (eg: eq bands)
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That's not true. Got the money play with different brands of caps and resisters and transisters, that's tuning also what. Blackgates vs Panasonics vs Mundorfs, etc. Different caps produce different types of sound and different values adjust the crossover points, slope, etc.

Passive crossover tuning is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than active but messing with passive crossovers is a lot more interesting and active can't change the characteristic of the sound whereas passives can.

Just a matter of interest, know-how and money.

This post has been edited by izso: Jan 7 2013, 07:22 AM
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post Jan 7 2013, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Jan 7 2013, 02:02 AM)
what about PIONEER DEH-2350UB will it be able to fit my car ? i found it at a reasonable price. totally lost in this subject  tongue.gif and also do i need any other components for it to work ? sweat.gif
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Aiyo. doh.gif

The most basic sound system consists of a player (HU/headunit), speakers (components or 2-way/3-way) and a sub (active/standalone). All cars have these things (ok.. maybe not a sub).

If you have a car that has a built in stuff like the VWs then be prepared to replace the entire dash (middle panel) with an aftermarket adaptor to fit aftermarket players.

Since your car is just a Kembara, replacing the player is just a matter of taking out your old one and installing the new one. There's no such thing as whether it can "fit your car" or not. If it's a complete panel player like those taken out from a Camry, it will not fit. If it's an aftermarket from Pioneer, Sony, Alpine, etc.. then it'll fit for sure. Just a matter of with or without an aftermarket bracket/adaptor.

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post Jan 7 2013, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jan 7 2013, 07:16 AM)
That's not true. Got the money play with different brands of caps and resisters and transisters, that's tuning also what. Blackgates vs Panasonics vs Mundorfs, etc. Different caps produce different types of sound and different values adjust the crossover points, slope, etc.

Passive crossover tuning is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than active but messing with passive crossovers is a lot more interesting and active can't change the characteristic of the sound whereas passives can.

Just a matter of interest, know-how and money.
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you can do the same with a semi active/passive setup.

and that's more of an in depth knowledge than a basic/general idea. something that most people either
- don't have the money to do it
- not willing to mod/replace their original passives (or HU/amp caps/resisters etc for that matter)

so i don't see how what i provided is "not true" in its entirety smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 7 2013, 08:28 AM)
you can do the same with a semi active/passive setup.

and that's more of an in depth knowledge than a basic/general idea. something that most people either
- don't have the money to do it
- not willing to mod/replace their original passives (or HU/amp caps/resisters etc for that matter)

so i don't see how what i provided is "not true" in its entirety smile.gif
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semi-active? Now you're just picking on words already. You specifically said active is this this this, passive is this this this.. so I said not true.

Now you talk about semi-active that's a different thing already la.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 6 2013, 01:49 AM)
biggest difference between the 2 is active offers more tuning (eg: cross over frequencies, specific gains and what not. for better or worse hence forever headache) while passive tuning options are limited to HU (eg: eq bands)
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If you don't have money for expensive caps, you can always opt for the cheaper audio caps from China. May not have the same effect but still works. So tuning isn't just "limited to HU EQ Bands" only.

Quote for truth! tongue.gif

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post Jan 7 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jan 7 2013, 01:28 PM)
semi-active? Now you're just picking on words already. You specifically said active is this this this, passive is this this this.. so I said not true.

Now you talk about semi-active that's a different thing already la.
If you don't have money for expensive caps, you can always opt for the cheaper audio caps from China. May not have the same effect but still works. So tuning isn't just "limited to HU EQ Bands" only.

Quote for truth! tongue.gif
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at the end of the day the information i provided was not false, no? smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 02:20 PM

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why tuning active using proc can be headache. everything is at the touch of the button + memory preset. no need to crawl under the seat or etc. tuning all done in a cosy air cond environment. u can have multiple preset tuning to try eventually will be ther.

its fun. owner can tweak it n installer can tweak too. no good can alwiz revert to previous settings. this is the best way to learn.
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post Jan 7 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Jan 7 2013, 02:20 PM)
why tuning active using proc can be headache. everything is at the touch of the button + memory preset. no need to crawl under the seat or etc. tuning all done in a cosy air cond environment. u can have multiple preset tuning to try eventually will be ther.

its fun. owner can tweak it n installer can tweak too. no good can alwiz revert to previous settings. this is the best way to learn.
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that is a positive way of viewing it thumbup.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Jan 7 2013, 02:20 PM)
why tuning active using proc can be headache. everything is at the touch of the button + memory preset. no need to crawl under the seat or etc. tuning all done in a cosy air cond environment. u can have multiple preset tuning to try eventually will be ther.

its fun. owner can tweak it n installer can tweak too. no good can alwiz revert to previous settings. this is the best way to learn.
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This is why I'm going Semi active smile.gif

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post Jan 7 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 7 2013, 03:18 PM)
This is why I'm going Semi active smile.gif
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Yours semi-active? Meaning you are going 3-way lar .... drool.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jan 7 2013, 03:25 PM)
Yours semi-active? Meaning you are going 3-way lar ....    drool.gif
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aww yea cant wait to audition drool.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jan 7 2013, 03:25 PM)
Yours semi-active? Meaning you are going 3-way lar ....    drool.gif
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Planning but not yet
Have to upgrade one by one blush.gif
For this year staying 2 way hehe blush.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Jan 7 2013, 03:38 PM)
Planning but not yet
Have to upgrade one by one blush.gif
For this year staying 2 way hehe blush.gif
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Tis guy cannot trust 1 laugh.gif when his ass itchy he sure go to change 1. laugh.gif so sumbody pls poison him. So we hav 3way listen on next tt blush.gif
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QUOTE(garykam @ Jan 7 2013, 04:29 PM)
Tis guy cannot trust 1  laugh.gif  when his ass itchy he sure go to change 1.  laugh.gif  so sumbody pls poison him. So we hav 3way listen on next tt  blush.gif
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Lucky there's no 3 way German maestro around hehe brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jan 7 2013, 09:42 PM

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Isit worthy to cut or mod my front panel door?
cause i feel that plastic block a lot of mid bass xD
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post Jan 7 2013, 10:05 PM

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It depends hehe
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jan 7 2013, 09:42 PM)
Isit worthy to cut or mod my front panel door?
cause i feel that plastic block a lot of mid bass xD
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That's what stopping you from getting more accurate TA. Been there, so slaughter my doors.
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post Jan 7 2013, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 7 2013, 02:42 AM)
that alone iss good enough. smile.gif
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thanks for the input ! hopefully i can get it by this week laugh.gif

QUOTE(izso @ Jan 7 2013, 07:21 AM)
Aiyo.  doh.gif

The most basic sound system consists of a player (HU/headunit), speakers (components or 2-way/3-way) and a sub (active/standalone). All cars have these things (ok.. maybe not a sub).

If you have a car that has a built in stuff like the VWs then be prepared to replace the entire dash (middle panel) with an aftermarket adaptor to fit aftermarket players.

Since your car is just a Kembara, replacing the player is just a matter of taking out your old one and installing the new one. There's no such thing as whether it can "fit your car" or not. If it's a complete panel player like those taken out from a Camry, it will not fit. If it's an aftermarket from Pioneer, Sony, Alpine, etc.. then it'll fit for sure. Just a matter of with or without an aftermarket bracket/adaptor.
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very detailed explanation, thanks for helping me out thumbup.gif

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