Bfore preview, a lot of ppl grabbing with cheques ready. The response prompted dev keep some units for ballot n with such sales status, they wont build a showroom.

However, u can go their sales gallery at shoplot next to Oldtown at BK. Just next to Giant and nearby Zest.

What info you want to know?

U desperate for highrise in BK? I thought you only want completed condo bcz you said you looking for Zest too ... probably cloner kor can help you since he has both RR and Zest.

Hehehe.

Haha, ic. You got an investment minded.

Yes, it's true that, if we buy a under con project, by the time it is complete, the price will normally will rise. Generally. Anyway, completed property like Zest also part of investment because if the unit is well keep or management is well doing, the price will be rise also ( though the room might be lesser ) given the catalyst of surrounding it such as 150m away from LRT, Duet, Rimba Residence and upcoming I&P low density service apartment next to Giant or near Zest, and my highly rated Jalil City ( commercialize hub with hotels, Megamall, Jaya Jusco and it's nearer to Bukit Jalil or KL.

Hmm, then you need to discuss with your partner that what do you both want now, later and whether both can wait for 3 years +. I can frankly tell you, girls minded were different, if they plan now and see it now, they rather want it faster than wait 3 years. Meanwhile guys would think of appreciation value and also considering that why let first owner earned so much and leave the smaller gap for own.

You're not the first young couple who viewed SW and end up put more interest into Zest. If you look into Zest during VP time, which was cheaper compare to now, the units were taken very quickly and probably the time force you to commit one unit.

But based on your several posts, I see that you prefer Zest, then Rimba and I don't think you'll prefer SW due to it's high price and noise compare to Zest.

Haha, every young couple or first time home buyers are attracted by the features and commercialize excitements by Setia Walk. It offers something not all service apartment has such branding and features. I did admire Setia Walk very much and maybe my expectation for them was too high, so end up ... And agree with you that, the workmanship, hmm, not up to the expectation I suggest.

But bro, Zest is located at Bandar Kinrara 9, Puchong. It's bordering Alam Sutera or Bukit Jalil. If you get any unit below RM 500k, I think you can consider it seriously. Maybe you got chance. Hehe.

I think every location has it's best pro and con, like Bdr Kinrara vs Taman Tasik Prima vs Pusat Bandar Puchong. If both of you working in Puchong, I think I found Tasik Prima enclave or Pusat Bandar Puchong suits for you both.

I also rated Tasik Prima, Puchong Prima or etc enclave very much, but must enter with affordable pricing and not those kind of high end pricing like Skypod, Skyz, Trigon or Duet. Btw, any SA would say their products is the best and their competitors are the worst.

However, whether for own stay or investment, I rated Bandar Kinrara much more potential than anything after the IOI Mall / Puchong Jaya interchange. It skips the multi jam Puchong Jaya interchange, and suits my individual preference where it doesnt much jam going USJ / Sunway and found easily enter Kesas for MEX highway, NPE as well as Sg Besi Highway.

Jalil City is a 60 acres freehold land ( by Malton and Ho Hup ) which consists of multi developments such as estimated 140 units of 5-8 storey high end shop-offices, Grade A Office towers, Luxury SOHOS, Condo Hotel, Lifestyle Central Podium which consists of F&B and entertainment, MegaMall which dubed the 2nd largest in KV by built up, as well as service apartments by both developers which estimate around 1,800 units.

Back to Rimba Residence, if you enter the phase much earlier, I would say this is really a good, affordable and cheap buy. It provides you anything that you want, deep inside BK5 and next to AHFR, it brings you calm, low density, quiet no matter which facing you choose, exclusiveness ...

But too bad, your interest comes too late and good units had been taken up while remaining units now, need to pay premium or buy with high price increased.

Wow bro. Zest and Rimba Residence. Now, Z Residency and Kiara Residence, so fast consider Bukit Jalil new launches dy ah? Anyway, u had survey into good area.

Yes, to enter at The Zest is very different with entering under construction esp Rimba Residence, Kiara Residence 1, Kiara Residence 2 and Z Residence. The Zest is completed and other than 10% downpayment, you need to folk out RM 10k+ for the S&P and minimum RM 50k for renovation and furniture immediately.

For RR, Z Residence, KR1 and KR2. It's different a lot in terms of entry. Which Kiara Residence you mentioned or your friend buying? KR1 or KR2?

Z Residence ( 10xx units ) was launched since 2011 and due to complete by 2014. KR1 ( 360 units) would expected to be complete in 2014 while KR2 ( 720 units ) will be complete in 2015. KR1 and KR2 ( both Leasehold ) is just next to each other. KR1 is 4 blocks of lower rise condo while KR2 is 3 blocks of highrise condo with rainforest garden and rooftop sky garden.

ZR comes with 7% discount and no DIBS. While KR1 and KR2 comes with 7% discount, partly furnished and DIBS. ZR launched from RM 310 psf, increased to RM 350, 380, 400+ and now, I think RM 450-480 psf. KR1 starts from RM 300 psf and now increased to RM 400 psf ( Left over units). KR2 starts from RM 390 psf and now increased to RM 480 psf except for big units.

If you buy for own stay, maybe ZR ( Freehold ) and KR1 suits you because both will complete in less than 2 years time. While KR2 will be complete in Sept 2015.

If you not notice, actually I am KR2 buyer and i did skip KR1, ZR and RR as well. I almost put booking for ZR bcz I planted KR2 and wish to get anor unit around this area, but due to price increased suddenly in 2 weeks time ( > 10% ), I opt not to vest into it due to early phase buyers got it at around RM 310-330 per sq feet and to enter at RM 440-470 psf would be very tough and overlap KR2 in terms of prices.

Meanwhile for RR, I did very tempted into it during preview, it's hot and fair price, but unfortunately, I did not dare to invest 3 units from relevant same developers and I skip the unit most people prefer ( facing forest ) which I do not like forest due to dark at the night and I wanted pool view this time. To enter now, you have to folk out a lot compare to previous buyers.

The more projects bringing into options, the more headache you would have. All those ZR/KR1/KR2/RR were those left over units, so you might have unsatisfied reason to pay higher than early buyers, but as a late buyer, you wait your unit to be complete much lesser than them.

ZR/KR1/KR2 is totally different enclave with The Zest/RR and Setiawalk. ZR/KR1/KR2 is much noise compare to Zest, not even mentioned RR. But location wise is dependable which nearer to KL and highways, but since your gf's office is near RR, maybe RR or TZ suits you a lot.

If you pick on btw ZR vs KR1/KR2. If you can wait, maybe RR suits you. Or else, try to compare ZR against KR2. I think KR2 remaining left over units might be better facing or view compare to KR1 and ZR's left over few units.

Perhaps, you list down the type, size, price, discount of few desired units ... then I might give you further review.

Good Luck bro!~


This post has been edited by Chris Chew: Dec 17 2012, 01:00 AM

Yeah, twin kor speaks the truth.

I am amaze tat not only in LYN, but in FB, also have more owners declared for own stay. But, its reality that the actual picture could be different upon its completion.

Clivengu, perhaps I reply u using PC when I back home tonight or probably you can ask suggestion of ZR or KR2 in its thread to respect RR thread here. Haha.

I am sure u found more info at both threads more than the SA can gives u.

The last word would be, RR is still a good buy and great for own stay. Missed it very much but nvr regret not to get it. Early bird buyers would be sure of experienced anor round of TZ hot hot hot flips upon its completion based on pricing they enter.

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Added on December 18, 2012, 4:52 amFrom the units you listed on ZR
17th Floor, Block B, Type A corner, 1407 sq feet ( Facing Pool + garden ) at RM 450 psf
I like this layout quite a lot. ( Converted from Zest Type D's 1,110 sq feet ) to here with entrance / foyer separated the living hall and bedrooms. Balcony is individual to provide little privacy although directly facing Block C.
For corner unit is very tricky here, you must know the orientation very well. If the unit mentioned by you is facing garden / pool, means this is indirectly facing Block C and D, hit by morning sun and a better unit compare to the west side unit. But, don't be expected it can buffer with the noise from Kesas, except you close the double glazed glass door bcz the unit is directly facing the gap by Block C / D ( yoga area )

16th Floor, Block A, Type B, 1236 sq feet ( Infinity pool? ) at RM 498 psf
This is the type I almost book previously ( Cheque ready @ RM 390 psf and almost 2 weeks later, was told had increased to RM 416 psf )
Quite a similar unit with Type A, but not corner unit. Bedrooms bigger than The Zest's but expected a smaller dry and wet kitchen. The 3rd room is quite small.

To add on, the smallest size, 1032 sq feet or Type D, the 2 bedrooms unit at middle floor is selling at circa RM 510 psf after 7% discount.
Both Level 16th and 17th is good floor. If 17th floor is not good in feng shui, bro, seriously, you got to aim a new project with cheque ready upon launching day.

As the project was launched at middle 2011 for RM 330 psf onwards ( much lower than KR2 who sold half a year later ), excluding those bulk purchased at Block A who got it at RM 300 psf circa, would you entry now for a 1,136 units project with RM 450-515 psf? You already enter at the early buyers' subsales price and you definitely lose out in terms of room of appreciation. However, you may ignore this if you're own stay.

Yes, I agree with you that, those block launched first would be definitely the block has the most units for rental and flip, normally, haha. You might get your correct assumption since Block D is the last block to launch.

If you ask me, if die die must buy ZR, for own stay, I would definitely pick Block C or Block D's medium low floor unit facing Garden and nearer to either Block C /D to buffer the noise away against privacy ( opposite balcony view ). The lesser noise unit would be Block A's unit ( nearer to Block B ) but facing directly Bukit OUG Condo, hahaha.

Generally yes, KR2 ( with 7% discount, partly furnished and DIBS ) attracted more investors than own stay. From my glance, KR2 smallest unit, 1067 sq feet ( total 360 units out of 720 units ) are majority investment purpose while the remaining 360 units ( 1276 sq ft and 1457 sq ft ) are majority declared for own stay. And, I do not believe ZR's 1136 units, more than 60% of them are buying for own stay. It's 1136 units vs 720 units. You can assume both 30% for rental ( the remaining for own stay or keep till 2020 ), it's about 340 units for ZR against 216 units for KR2.

If you like spacious and if you do not mind to join the wolves party, you should bring your gf to KR2 office to view it and visit both ZR / KR2 sites, maybe she can give you further hints. Type C, 1457 sq feet, partly furnished, at premium solo tower, 3 individual car parks, DIBS and after 7% discount, it would be RM 440 psf onwards. I brought some girls including my gf to view both scale model of ZR and KR2, I was surprised all of them said KR2 is much nicer. IMHO, I feel based on facade looking, both ZR and KR2 also nice but not too exciting.

ZR estimated to complete at 2014, while KR2 would be complete at 2015 Sept or year end. Different traffic. If you're investor, probably ZR would be ideal because they might complete ahead of KR1, so they would attending to the market first before KR2 come to the picture 1+ year later.

Regarding to the management to control the Pak Hitam, it's hard to say and all need to wait until completion. Maybe both ZR and KR2 would be occupy by PH but I no longer trust Trinity promise that there is no PH bcz it did happened at The Zest. But as a 1,136 units condo and price point was relatively low back then, it's dam hard to control. Same goes to KR2, though they preview it this year and only recently they increased the price ( but lower than ZR )

In terms of nearer to LRT, noise, traffic jam and etc, both ZR and KR2 already had the adverse remarks. ZR is near to LRT but KR2 is next to LRT. KR2 would be the first to reach Kesas Highway instead of ZR. I notice ZR's building is much nearer to Kesas compare to KR2. If after KR1/K2/ZR completed, if no cars here would be very haunted and means both also terrible investment.

I still believe you will end up with The Zest ... completed ... move in immediately ... and not as busy or noisy as ZR / KR2 ... seriously ...

Let me get back to the Arsenal entertaining game!






This post has been edited by Chris Chew: Dec 18 2012, 04:52 AM

Suddenly too hot and increased too heavily and all prospects became silent ...

lol ...

Knox never deliver any project as developer. RR is their first ever sole project as developer. KR1/KR2, they first ever project partnering Kiara Resources ( the dev ) after being a main consultant for developers most of the time.

They either completed a project as main consultant or main contractor, or both. The most recent one would be Scott Soho bcz The architect, main contractor and etc are same for RR, KR1 and KR2.

Mostly all had signed since Nov / Dec.

Only left those pending loan units.

Boss, tarak beli. Unable to get the desire pool facing unit and type, so drop the forest view unit for other desperate brother.

This price had been quite some time dy, where they increased the price by RM 200k but discount RM 100k and rebates another 5%.

Not sure whether the RM 100k and 5% rebates still entitle now, but as of end of May 2013, it is still available.

Ya. Looks very easy.

Bcz if take full loan based on net price, Rm 551k.
It is only margin 81% out of gross price, RM 680k.

Haha, certainly because this is the thread for Rimba Residence ...

Haha, I know.

Hmm, IMO, Trigon, Skypod and 8 Kinrara is the project by gigantic brand. Zest is a visible completed decent condo for comparison, which although I got to admit it was a nice condo based on the developer selling price, Trinity also ride on the lady luck that property market segment was boomed up at the right timing of it's completion of Zest and the launches of ZR and Zeva Suites, so Trinity name is being up recently.

Meanwhile, for RR, althought it is maiden project but almost every interested buyers prior to preview, knew that this is Knox projects together with JV of KR1/KR2 which concept sold successfully with it's decent fair prices and marketing strategy.

However for Duet Residence, it could be the developer's profile which is largely unknown with it's previous high prices. I believe, marketing and pricing strategy is the key which made Duet Residence is one of the un-talkable subject. They are not the only new developer who sold the project at high price but there were plenty on the street.

What is the progress of Duet now?

Many units left? Can share what is the current pricing now?

You mean Rimba Residence?

Alamak. Sewerage and Kidex Highway directly next to it, no wonder.

Very hard to say. I predict 75% RR also need to pay maintenance fee for the 2-3 car park lots.

KR S/B JV with Knox Halim for KR1/2 but the projects are consult by Knox Group, included project management and etc. And RR is wholly owned project by RR,

not sure if they only wanted KR1/2 to include the car park monthly maintenance fee due to only RM 0.20 psf and for low dense like KR1 is hard to manage.

Meanwhile, RR is different due to RM 0.30 psf

If RR got to pay, those who owned 3 cp would be very very pocket pain.

Say 1571 sq is RM 520 included sinking fund. To add 3 cp approx RM 75 would be total RM 595 per month.

KR1 owners would paid the price if they or their proxies dont attend such pre JMB meeting and end up monopoly by the dev representatives.

Nice one boss.

Very abang adik with KR2 outlook.