norther,
If you want to create a group of followers, I suggest you go to "serious kopitiam" a subsection under "Kopitiam" it is a place where you can do that rather than challenge the real science that can be investigated with credible sources not speculation or believe.

In real life, it will NOT competent. If you research on vaccination and try to help your family member who is sick then you will know the fact.

Standard of Allopathy?
Hiding the vaccination of smallpox, Cancer, H1N1 etc. What are they afraid of? They are afraid of the truth on vaccination and the vaccine diseases.
Wikipedia is justly famous as “the encyclopedia anyone can edit,” and I can attest to this attribute, as my friends have contributed two or three articles and edited several dozen other ones. But the notion that “anyone can edit it” is seriously misleading.
Is it Free to Edit?




Not on this forums. I mean Wikipedia. There Looks to be an edit war, you will notice if you have registered account.But Wikipedia doesn’t allow “original research” Check it out, and contribute their own.

If you wish more source of bias, will PM and provide you the real one.

Original research belongs in scientific journals. Wikipedia is not a scientific journal. It cannot validate scientific research. Unvalidated research is no different from story telling. Someone else needs to validate the research in order to eliminate bias. You are blaming the wrong people. They should get their work validated by other scientist first and have the result published before attempting to enter into wikipedia.

This is the reason why I don't like your posts. Most of the experiments that you've quoted are not independently validated. They can't be validated because no one else could get it working.

The Wikipedia page for this physician has been deleted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Art...Robert_Cathcart

Why? Because Dr. Cathcart "does not meet notability criteria per WP:BIO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BIO

Possibly, just possibly, the real reason Dr. Cathcart is deleted from Wikipedia has much more to do with his outspoken advocacy of very high doses of vitamin C to treat viral illnesses.

http://www.doctoryourself.com/cathcart_thirdface.html

and either

http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

or

http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm

Here is all the deleted material on Dr. Cathcart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history

and this

Gerson Therapy, has been completely removed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...apy&redirect=no

To see something of what happened, you can click the "History" tab here as well."

Allopathic Medicine is mostly based around patentable drugs (pharmaceutical medicine), with radiation and surgery. Administered by the 'Medical Profession' who are all medical doctors. These medical doctors that will only use the drug company products are called Allopaths, as opposed to the ones who use alternative medicine (non-Allopathic), such as nutrients. One of the best kept secrets is the Allopathic medical monopoly.

Information from Malaysia

http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?fil...0835&sec=health



http://www.natural-health.com.my/Home.html

Take a look and decide for yourself. I believe there something from NWO!! Because they're afraid they'll be out of business.

This post has been edited by norther: Apr 8 2012, 09:31 PM

Based on the link given, the main reason it wasn't included is due to references given. It is basically a one sided story. No one else is confirming his story. How is that credible?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling
Linus Pauling made the similar claims in regards to vitamin C. His page is still around. It probably helps that he has a large and varied reference section on his page. Large vitamin C doses is not a miracle cure unfortunately.

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Added on April 8, 2012, 10:19 pmThis link is more revealing-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerson
No evidence that it actually works. People actually got sick from following it. Most of the patients died within 9 months. Those that survived were doing both standard cancer therapy and Gerson's therapy at the same time. Not very encouraging is it?

This post has been edited by Eventless: Apr 8 2012, 10:32 PM

The above link revealing is bias and i can detect some deleted materials about Nutritional Medicine. All links, references and citations were removed. They were replaced by links to the American Cancer Society and National Cancer Institute, which offer only criticism of the Gerson Therapy. Even quotations from published scientific papers were removed. Attempts to rectify these actions were immediately overwritten.

It's easy enough to show the progression of the pages, since Wikipedia displays former edits on request, dated and documented. One can verify this by clicking on the "History" tab at the top of the Max Gerson page, and looking at 2005 and before.

The last Gerson grandson editing is archived:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr.../69.109.140.164

and also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...s/Howard_Straus

A second Wikipedia page, specific to the Gerson Therapy, has been completely removed
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...apy&redirect=no
To see something of what happened, you can click the "History" tab here as well.

Max Gerson is not the only nutritionally-oriented physician whose work is slanted or censored at Wikipedia.

A grandson does not really count as an independent source of information for an article.

Given that there's no real proof that the method in question actually works, why give it its own page?

The method has been around for decades and they can't produce evidence that it works. That does not speak much about its effectiveness.

There's no evidence of bias that I can see here.

This post has been edited by Eventless: Apr 12 2012, 11:30 PM

Unfortunately, the Wikipedia page on Max Gerson is a shell of what it should be and the section on the therapy it self is nothing like the actual therapy promoted by the Gerson Institute and practiced around the world. In Japan it readily describes the Gerson Therapy as magnificent. It really is too bad we don't have the degree of medical freedom of choice that they share in Japan.

And again you never answer my question regarding ALLOPATHY?

and

H1N1 Vaccination??

It is because you didn't present a specific question in regards to those topics. The other reason is that this thread is about anti-gravity, not alternative medicine.

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Added on April 13, 2012, 4:03 pmThere's nothing stopping you from using that method. Just don't blame others if it does not work.

Still isn't it odd that there is no statistics available on the effectiveness after so many decades?

This post has been edited by Eventless: Apr 13 2012, 04:03 PM

90% of your wikipedia information is bogus.

Do you have any proof of that? All you have presented are baseless claims. I have backed up my claims, what have you done?

I have to list down the example and you pick which one and i will SHOW you the proof that Wikipedia is "the abomination that causes misinformation".

Abortion ? Science and Evolution ? Liberal Politicians ? Global warming ? Bestiality/zoophilia ? Anti-Christianity ? Conservapedia smears ? Gender bias ? Conservative personalities and politicians ?

Start another topic if you want to prove that wikipedia is not a good source of information. If the pages that I've shown are incorrect, you could have easily pointed out and explain what is wrong with them. You were not able to do so.

TR-3B


TR-3B Spotted over Belgium in 1990: This is the best most realistic shot of the TR-3B


The TR-3B’s performance is limited only the stresses that the human pilots can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%.

The crew of the TR-3B should be able to comfortable take up to 40Gs. The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet--then God knows how fast it can go!

The 3 multimode rocket engines mounted under each corner of the craft use hydrogen or methane and oxygen as a propellant. In a liquid oxygen/hydrogen rocket system, 85% of the propellant mass is oxygen. The nuclear thermal rocket engine uses a hydrogen propellant, augmented with oxygen for additional thrust. The reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic nozzle, so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner.” From 1998.

The two nuclear engines power the MFD and are used in the atmosphere for thrust. You can see the intake/exhaust vectored vents all around the Flying Triangle. The 3 multimode rockets are used in orbit for maneuverability.

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Added on April 14, 2012, 7:17 pm

Not ETs craft(ufo) but the Infamous TR-3B






This post has been edited by norther: Apr 14 2012, 07:43 PM

Gravity affects weight not mass. Mass remains the same regardless of gravity. G forces in an aircraft is not caused by gravity, it is caused by the acceleration of the aircraft. If it is affecting the mass of an object, it is not anti-gravity. Out of topic again.

TR-3B utilizes little known loophole to create it's antigravity effects.

The effects being described by your post is not the result of anti-gravity. Please get some understanding of physics before continuing further.

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Added on April 15, 2012, 2:29 pmWhy would a craft need a nuclear reactor to heat up the liquid hydrogen before combustion in the first place? The space shuttle has been doing it for decades without the need of such a device.

This post has been edited by Eventless: Apr 15 2012, 02:29 PM

If you think you understand Physics; you don't understand Physics.


There is other aspect not mentioned on TR-3B. Something very hot and very cold, iron,magnetism,mercury=plasma and fast as hell and back to your answer could be methane, what i heard other aspect is the refrigerated cyro cooling.

I understand enough about the words used. Can you say the same? Gravity, mass and weight is pretty well defined. How they relate to each other is also well defined. There's even actual equations about them. The relationship between gravity and electromagnetism is not defined. Show me actual physics equations that links gravity and electromagnetism.
And you are basing all this on? A video of a few lights in the sky. Why can't it be a craft from an alien civilization? Is that bias showing. Every UFO in the sky has to be an anti-gravity craft from earth. For someone who keeps on advocating thinking outside the box, you seem pretty much stuck inside one.

What theF mainstream..you still don’t understand from the first explanation and get me confused.

Here i show you the formula attached on TR-3B but NOT your mainstream physic that lack interest in exotic formula as follows :

A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter, surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology...The plasma, mercury based, is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption.



In GR that indicate how moving matter can create unusual gravitational effects. See above fig..the pieces of the puzzle all fell together. Moving matter pattern is necessary to generate a gravitational dipole was exactly the same as the plasma ring pattern as well.

So...TR-3B > loophole > antigravity effects.

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Added on April 15, 2012, 9:22 pmFor those who interested with the book by Physicist Paul LaViolette.

at http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Antigravity-...y/dp/159143078X

Interesting fact : Paul LaViolette has passed the lie detector conducted by CIA and all the antigravity materials include energy zero point is real.

-This thread is closed-

This post has been edited by norther: May 3 2012, 05:46 PM