Ours hydrolick rite. Any comments on installing rear tower bars w/o changing the rear anti roll bars? Worth doing? Or minimal results?

@miuk: Mythology = the NOT aluminium one?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 09:35 PM

Good point asso. Maybe go Rims/Tables first ya lor. My car daily driver, not track car. Boot to bawak barang, not to sumbat batangs.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 09:38 PM

"Spirited" daily driver. And can you adjust to your own liking wat, not track level hard always lol. Not that Tables = confirm buntut sakit. Wanna go track go back shop change springs lor.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 09:41 PM

Was planning Titans, use springs with good firmness/comfort compromise first. Wanna go track go shop change springs to harder ones, after track day can change back wad?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 09:45 PM

Later go home all hands shaking non-stop.

4 point bar? Lower front you mean?

Gila understeer later woh.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 10:20 PM

Okay my understanding. Mitsu came with Front ARB, Front tower strut and Rear ARB + Hard sus + 18 rims/50 tyres. Result: Tail happy.

Potong INCREASED the diameter of the front ARB and decreased the rear + Softer sus + 16 rims/60 tyres. Result: Better balance, better comfort, boaty feeling.

So, we add strut. Increase front stiffness. Wouldn't this result in more understeer now? Put stiffer Rear ARB OR Rear tower strut: Neutral with less body roll?

Am I korek? Or am I just spouting tahi kerbau over here?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 10:22 PM

Okay. I'm working under the basic assumption that harder front vs back = understeer and harder back vs front = oversteer here (which might be wrong as heck). So:

22 + 16 : Slight understeer bias.

22 + front strut + 16 (what most of us are running now) : Increased understeer?

If you want a (relatively) neutral bias (aka, less tail happy but not understeer happy either) now, you would need:

a) 22 + front strut + 16 + rear strut

b) 22 + front strut + 18/22

That is, if we ONLY consider the struts and ARBs. Not the sus or the rims/tyres (considering bro CKK had to get his sus rebuilt, we can safely say Potong adjusted the geometry of the rear sus as well).

IINM. Please korek me if I'm wrong (which I think I am wor).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 1 2012, 10:35 PM

Hui kenalikiller sudah komen wor. You what next Jack?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 2 2012, 12:52 AM

About the ARB, 19 eh. UR got 18, might try that, but I heard there's problems with the brake cables shearing with UR ARBs? Any alternatives?

Personal Mod Targets:

Current: K&N drop in, Osram NBP, Vinyl Eyelids for lights, Mitsu boot tray (where to get?), Meguiar's UQW + ONR.

Near Future: 17 rims + Tyres.

Far Future: Titans, Rear ARB/Strut, Everco 4-2-1 + decat + bullet + muffs, R3 rear ducklip.

Yep. That looks about right.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 2 2012, 12:55 AM

There is always room for improvement.

Always.

^ Oh lupa, Full leather half-buckets added.

If you choose a weekend with no school "sextivities" I'll come wor.

UncXC, that's why I had a looooong windy post about the ARB. I am VERY aware of the understeer bias of the car and what Potong did to achieve this. As such, what I aim to do is to simply ENHANCE what Potong did and make the rear stiffer a bit without making the tail too happy as per the ori Mitsu tuning.

I mean I like the understeer bias and am painfully aware of the fact that oversteer is much more a problem then understeer, but the rear end is slightly too soft (lateral wise) for my liking, that's all.

As such, I think I'll prolly leave things stock or go get UR 18/mitsu 19 ARBs for a slightly stiffer ass to compensate for my strut enhanced front. Would that work without introducingntoo much oversteer?

I'm also considering rear tower bars but that might give me a problem later if I wanna carry stuff in the boot.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 2 2012, 02:45 PM

Offer me asso wor... Now after modding stage one no money to even eat edi lol.

Lidat I prefer the Clarion Mirage wor, at least I won't lose VAPS, even tho it's not Jinjerbred. Should be the same price asso.

The modding capabilities could be endless though, even w/o Jinjerbred.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 3 2012, 02:45 AM

Slow but good sound = win for me. Besides, you wanna play 3D games on your HU ma? As long as the GPS isn't too laggy it's okay for me, as flyaudio usually has sheety SQ, and my SGS2 already takes care of the mobile computing side of things.

EVEN BETTER SOLUTION, a double din adapter for iTouch/Android media player/SGS as HU. Can be done? Make it detachable and you can even hide your HU (aka the iTouch/Andy media player in the glovebox wor.

I do still have my old Nokia N810 that nobody wants. Might just work as a basic carputer + OBD2.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 3 2012, 10:07 AM

If not so obvious hairline scratch = Meg's Ultimate Quik Wax has fillers in it.

Have to get some myself to hide them stone scratches.

If I JIT can use as CTVF I long time do edi, save money asso.

JIT into fuel tank = octane booster?

JIT onto battery = voltage stabilizer?

JIT onto car paint = seirra glow?

Very useful wor.

But seriously, very low boost BOT/supercajer please Speedworks. 205-210nm of torque enough edi.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 3 2012, 01:40 PM

Just make sure you're already at 130-150kmh and they can't zhar you edi. If from 50-60kmh going UP, perpare to be turbozhar-ed.

In that case just pretend you uncle and drive slow slow lol, no shame hahahaha. Not unless you gila exterior modded edi lar.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 3 2012, 01:54 PM

We're willing to buy, but who's willing to make?

Tenga smenga, you should drop into Akiba. Tenga like low end range wor. The amount of different... uhm... rubber organ designs available is... uhm... facinating. Even can custom make one if you want.

Not not mention the lube. Syn, semi-syn, mineral... everything got.

@NZH: Can order lancer boot tray? Or mat? The boot lining is crappy wor.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 3 2012, 02:33 PM

It's an official optional accessory last I checked. Came complete with mitsu logo

@botack: Pasar malam one enuf jor. How much?

@fuja: How much? Next time you drive up hep me buy lor?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 3 2012, 02:36 PM