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 Hyundai Elantra MD V4, Launching now!

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post Mar 30 2012, 08:31 PM, updated 14y ago

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V1 by megat69 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1407757
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2174173
V3 : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2247130

Specs :
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Videos :

Nu Engine Commercial(No GDI and CVVL for Malaysia spec)
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Elantra MD Nu 1.8 Idle Start(Korea test car, and this is NOT a spycam)
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Escort Headlight System Demonstration
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FAQs :
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When will the car be launched?
April 6th

Waiting Period?
Said to have good amount of stock ready, expect waiting period to be shorter than imported Sonata and Tucson.


Price :
1.6 Manual Standard RM86,888
1.6 Auto Standard RM91,888
1.6 Auto High Spec RM96,888
1.8 Premium Auto RM111,888

Some changes in specs, 1.8 will have rain sensor added to the spec list.

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post Mar 30 2012, 08:35 PM

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there's goes the V4 finally

how about the colour??
all available now or??


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datuk also 1st 1...

datuk...which 1 u going?1.6 or 1.8??

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post Mar 30 2012, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Mar 30 2012, 08:35 PM)
there's goes the V4 finally

how about the colour??
all available now or??
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datuk also 1st 1...

datuk...which 1 u going?1.6 or 1.8??
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First batch four colors according to memo, second batch only start to have other colors.
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post Mar 30 2012, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 30 2012, 08:37 PM)
First batch four colors according to memo, second batch only start to have other colors.
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can know that when the second batch is coming?thxs
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post Mar 30 2012, 08:48 PM

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Just test drove the Elantra in Citta Mall. Overall the 1.8 is a better recommendation than the 1.6. Despite that, the pricing may hampered SD efforts to make this car a runaway success like the Forte.


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post Mar 30 2012, 09:41 PM

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What are the prices for east malaysia?
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post Mar 30 2012, 09:53 PM

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Where did the rain sensor located? Will darker tint kacau the sensor?
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post Mar 30 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(tony @ Mar 30 2012, 09:53 PM)
Where did the rain sensor located? Will darker tint kacau the sensor?
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Probably will, it's located above the rear view mirror. So have your tint technician cut around it, same for the autolight sensor.
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:16 PM

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http://youtu.be/gX4-FwY2DI8 Loose FOCUS wub.gif tongue.gif

http://youtu.be/kUPhkQNvhTo wub.gif wub.gif

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post Mar 30 2012, 10:20 PM

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I have a feeling batch 2 (or subsequent batches) might have the additional features that WE'VE BEEN WANTING (eg 6 airbags, retractable side mirrors)

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post Mar 30 2012, 10:32 PM

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next month price drop 10k due no booking.
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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Mar 30 2012, 10:31 AM)

my money is still on the elantra, but i will wait and see after the first batch.. like i said.. i'm always sceptical of the first batch regardless of the manufacturer..  nod.gif
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same thought. see how 1st batch performe. 112k is not small amount of money hmm.gif


about the spare tyre, is that spare tyre small than than 4tyres like myvi? icon_question.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:37 PM

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bro can i test drive in penang, den order from you, u send me the car to penang!!! Deal? haha
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:38 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxeYmD0LU6g&feature=related
quite detail review

traditional boot open , really?
ppl already heng push of a button like x20 already

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post Mar 30 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Mar 30 2012, 10:37 PM)
bro can i test drive in penang, den order from you, u send me the car to penang!!! Deal? haha
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You need to sign letter of waiver of responsibility first tongue.gif

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I seen the car catalog, by far the best quality catalog so far from Hyundai. Sadly dealers are not allowed to take them yet sad.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:40 PM

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After my brief test drive on both 1.6 n 1.8, here my verdict. I found it hard to recommend the 1.6 but found the 1.8 is much a pleasant car. The 1.6 is kinda underpowered when in low revs and the steering is too light. The 1.8 is more lively and the steering feel is just tad right. Not too light and gives good feedback to the driver.Interior quality is brilliant for this car!

Handling is great for a C segment car. But for 111k for a 1.8cc car is not that bad, but somehow felt it should be cheaper seeing how Forte 2.0 priced well in the same segment. Equipment wise is good but i somehow felt rather trade the GPS for extra 2 more side air bags.

4/5 for the 1.8 while 3/5 for the 1.6. wink.gif

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post Mar 30 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 30 2012, 10:39 PM)
You need to sign letter of waiver of responsibility first tongue.gif

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I seen the car catalog, by far the best quality catalog so far from Hyundai. Sadly dealers are not allowed to take them yet sad.gif
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Oh, den is ok!

Bro Fluid, mind to tell me did you order 1 for urself???hehe thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:53 PM

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This will make u wanna buy elantra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehU3cjlUqZ4&feature=related
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(dopp @ Mar 30 2012, 10:53 PM)
huh yoh~~~ poison coming...Hav to ask bro fluid, warranty can claim ont if install the lighting package!!
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:00 PM

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Was among the first 10 to test drive the only unit available in Kuching. They had only the 1.6 High Spec. I went to the showroom with pretty high expectations due to the sheer amount of publicity and knowing that this car won so many awards in US and some other countries. Left the showroom bloody disappointed.

What really spoilt the driving experience was the lack of torque at low end rpm. Power only comes in at higher rpm. However, when I returned to the showroom only I noticed that it was in Eco mode. Now i wonder how different it would be if the ECO mode was disabled. However, as many forumers have concluded, the 1.6's acceleration is truly sluggish.

The Forte 1.6SX 6 speed provides a much livelier acceleration. With the price of the elantra 1.6HS equalling the Forte 2.0SX, I cannot see how I can recommend this car. The only aspect which the Elantra is better than the Kia is the Aesthetics (Outward appearance).
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more poison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCPKxiu5Jsg&feature=fvwrel
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:05 PM

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seriously can do it???
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(maru @ Mar 30 2012, 11:05 PM)
seriously can do it???
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Only bro fluid can answer, maybe he need to check with the management, b4 confirmed it! Hope for it thumbup.gif

i wonder how sluggish is the car performing, really that bad? For me i wont be expecting much bcuz, this engine is 100% not par with Ivtec or Mivec!!

But at least better than sylphy and altis 1.8, rite? Any test driver enlighten me?
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just dont buy 1.6 like forte....until they give free upgrade etc after 2nd batch lol
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(thtan @ Mar 30 2012, 11:00 PM)
Was among the first 10 to test drive the only unit available in Kuching. They had only the 1.6 High Spec. I went to the showroom with pretty high expectations due to the sheer amount of publicity and knowing that this car won so many awards in US and some other countries. Left the showroom bloody disappointed.

What really spoilt the driving experience was the lack of torque at low end rpm. Power only comes in at higher rpm. However, when I returned to the showroom only I noticed that it was in Eco mode. Now i wonder how different it would be if the ECO mode was disabled. However, as many forumers have concluded, the 1.6's acceleration is truly sluggish.

The Forte 1.6SX 6 speed provides a much livelier acceleration. With the price of the elantra 1.6HS equalling the Forte 2.0SX, I cannot see how I can recommend this car. The only aspect which the Elantra is better than the Kia is the Aesthetics (Outward appearance).
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on consolation, the cruze also feels like this, like small engine pulling heavy body.. sonata also.. maybe they tuned it for that euro feel.. slow n steady driving biggrin.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:12 PM

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Auto Parking is only available for Korean version I read somewhere. Don't be so lazy lah.. Park the car yourself...
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post Mar 30 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(maru @ Mar 30 2012, 11:10 PM)
just dont buy 1.6 like forte....until they give free upgrade etc after 2nd batch lol
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Honestly, i test drive 1.6SX forte, hehe, kinda funny i think myvi and saga accelerate even better.

Cuz i vroom vroom to 100km/h twice, the car like : not really wana move!! Sorry ya Fortian. Just my 2cent
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 30 2012, 11:12 PM)
on consolation, the cruze also feels like this, like small engine pulling heavy body.. sonata also.. maybe they tuned it for that euro feel.. slow n steady driving  biggrin.gif
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so sad.. been waiting so long for this car.. turns out to be so slow.... I thought I would be buying this car honestly... overpriced and sluggish... Can't think of any reason why I should pay 100k for this car.. cry.gif
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Me too, hard to pull trigger @100k
I might as well settle for forte and go europe 1 trip WITH MY WIFE..
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Need more feedback for 1.6hs seriously....
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QUOTE(thtan @ Mar 30 2012, 11:16 PM)
so sad.. been waiting so long for this car.. turns out to be so slow.... I thought I would be buying this car honestly... overpriced and sluggish... Can't think of any reason why I should pay 100k for this car..  cry.gif
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what is next choice then? P321 ?
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Can we actually seperate into 2 teams,

Team A test drive Forte 2.0, Team B test drive 1.8 Nu Engine.

Fully loaded 5pax! Try to speed in the same highway.

Mark down all the time 0-100km/h in sec!

I think 3 sessions r enuf to finalize our 50/50 thinking : forte 2.0 better or the impossible 1.8 Nu.

Only A suggestion!
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Mar 30 2012, 11:13 PM)
Honestly, i test drive 1.6SX forte, hehe, kinda funny i think myvi and saga accelerate even better.

Cuz i vroom vroom to 100km/h twice, the car like : not really wana move!! Sorry ya Fortian. Just my 2cent
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My colleague bought the 6 speed 1.6SX Forte. The acceleration was miles better than the 1.6 Elantra even with 5 adults on the car. Even the owner of a 2.0GT Lancer agreed to this. You drove the old 4-speed forte?
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P321.. haha....
High tech stuff inside local car?

This time i guess not only car terbakar in middle of highway
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QUOTE(dopp @ Mar 30 2012, 11:19 PM)
P321.. haha....
High tech stuff inside local car?

This time i guess not only car terbakar in middle of highway
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he want fast mah.. brows.gif turbo veli fast.
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QUOTE(thtan @ Mar 30 2012, 11:18 PM)
My colleague bought the 6 speed 1.6SX Forte. The acceleration was miles better than the 1.6 Elantra even with 5 adults on the car. Even the owner of a 2.0GT Lancer agreed to this. You drove the old 4-speed forte?
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Haha, is 6speed but the thing is i haven get my chance to test drive 1.6 elantra! so might got it wrong.
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Hyundai's automatic is programmed for smooth driving style, that's how I am able to drive the 6 speed cars without any shift shock and a 'ridiculous' fuel economy that many claims is impossible to get.

If you really want the 'performance' pick up, go into semi auto mode and go higher in the rev, I'd avoid you on the road if you drive your car like how many customer does in test drive. Seriously, how often you rev till close to red line?

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So who is confirm getting wor? Looks like most is siding to 1.8.
Was told the spare tyre is not the full-size one, can confirm? Can the space house a full-size tyre if we put in?

I'm still considering, but if get, definitely will get rid the inokom logo... Maybe this:
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 30 2012, 11:18 PM)
what is next choice then? P321 ?
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the Forte 2.0SX ler.... nothing beats this car in terms of value...

Is rumoured that P3-21A (a.k.a. Proton Preve??) launching delayed due to some issues with the CFE engine. Some Exora CFE owners have complained (you can find youtube videos on this) of strange noises from the engine. Proton did so much publicity for this car, and yet not able to deliver as to what they promise. I would not dare to touch this car until at least one year later.

Just days after the Power of One event started, an Exora exploded 4 times in a small town in Sabah (Kota Maludu), killing its owner. Couldn't confirm if it was a CFE or not. I have seen several burnt Saga BLMs as well on the road. Now u tell me if u dare to buy and drive the CFE car?

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http://kensomuse.blogspot.com/2012/03/hyun...impossible.html
Show boot and tyre area

Nice comparison
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QUOTE(thtan @ Mar 30 2012, 11:26 PM)
the Forte 2.0SX ler.... nothing beats this car in terms of value...
sorry dun look interesting inside and out..

lets be honest, if the elantra look like forte i dun think will chat until so many pages.. and wait over 1year right? biggrin.gif
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There are a few kind of Hyundai doubters out there

The first kind is the previous bad experience doubter, which is willing to take another Hyundai as long as the old problem has been rectified.

The second kind is the doubter with a curious mind why is Hyundai doing so well compared to last time.

The third kind and sadly the biggest majority kind, is the kind that are defensive about their POV against Hyundai, and will never agree to any clear strong point in a Hyundai car.

Easy deals from the first kind are usually people who thinks it's about to time to trade in their Getz, Matrix or their 'first' car without much complaint.

For the second kind of doubters, I suggest you come and take a look at the car in the metal, Hyundai cars aren't photogenic, Sonata look horrid in photograph.

From my experience, the third kind can never be converted, might as well focus our attention to the first 2 kind where the bulk of our sales come from.

Selling 4 Elantra per month won't be hard, after all, I can sell 'overpriced LM and YF' just to about anyone monthly. 4-5 cars' commission is more than what some people's basic salary is working in some company for years. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 30 2012, 11:36 PM)
There are a few kind of Hyundai doubters out there

The first kind is the previous bad experience doubter

The second kind is the doubter with a curious mind why is Hyundai doing so well compared to last time

The third kind and sadly the biggest majority kind, is the kind that are defensive about their POV against Hyundai, and will never agree to any clear strong point in a Hyundai car.

Selling 4 Elantra per month won't be hard, after all, I can sell 'overpriced LM and YF' just to about anyone monthly. 4-5 cars' commission is more than what some people's basic salary is working in some company for years. biggrin.gif
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Thats explain price tag 111k

QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 30 2012, 11:36 PM)
There are a few kind of Hyundai doubters out there

The first kind is the previous bad experience doubter, which is willing to take another Hyundai as long as the old problem has been rectified.

The second kind is the doubter with a curious mind why is Hyundai doing so well compared to last time.

The third kind and sadly the biggest majority kind, is the kind that are defensive about their POV against Hyundai, and will never agree to any clear strong point in a Hyundai car.

From my experience, the third kind can never be converted, might as well focus our attention to the first 2 kind where the bulk of our sales come from.

Selling 4 Elantra per month won't be hard, after all, I can sell 'overpriced LM and YF' just to about anyone monthly. 4-5 cars' commission is more than what some people's basic salary is working in some company for years. biggrin.gif
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Haha lol...
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QUOTE(dopp @ Mar 30 2012, 11:38 PM)
Thats explain price tag 111k
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Why not try working in car sales a month and rethink what you assumed? Or take on a car dealership and try to juggle around with a narrow dealer margin? smile.gif

My showroom has been understaffed since opening 4 years ago, because many comes and go thinking selling 2-3 cars per month can become overnight millionaire, once they realize it's not true, they run away after working 3 months. You think those free tinting, full tank, smart tags, higher trade in price magically manifest themselves out of thin air? BTW, there are cars that I only earn RM100 commission, for the sake of hitting company's target, I had 3 such 'target hitting' sale in March and for that three, I only earned RM600 selling a Sonata and 2 Tucson.

I live a simple life, unlike many Malaysians. My expenses planning of about RM1,000 per month still I have extra to spend on my gf. smile.gif

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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 30 2012, 11:43 PM)
Why not try working in car sales a month and rethink what you assumed? smile.gif

My showroom has been understaffed since opening 4 years ago, because many comes and go thinking selling 2-3 cars per month can become overnight millionaire.

I live a simple life, unlike many Malaysians. My expenses planning of about RM1,000 per month still I have extra to spend on my gf. smile.gif
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v r the same kind of species for the bold wan.

selling 111k car dun think is that much..

1million car maybe yes.

Erm, can i ask for discount if in group buy?

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 30 2012, 11:29 PM)
sorry dun look interesting inside and out..

lets be honest, if the elantra look like forte i dun think will chat until so many pages.. and wait over 1year right?  biggrin.gif
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The looks..I like the Elantra better..but value for money Kia Forte 2.0SX is the winner

Test drove Forte 2.0SX on Wednesday and today test drove the Elantra 1.8...like the Forte better in terms of acceleration, handling and I feel the NVH is better in Forte. I can hear the engine roaring in Elantra when I floored the pedal but in Forte the engine sounds pleasant from inside the cabin.

I am not a bias towards KIA and this is my honest opinion. I have used Hyundai Getz, Matrix and Trajet before, so I though of buying Elantra..but after the test drive I think I'm going for Forte.
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Mar 30 2012, 11:46 PM)
v r the same kind of species for the bold wan.

selling 111k car dun think is that much..

1million car maybe yes.

Erm, can i ask for discount if in group buy?
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How big is your 'group'? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AIKing @ Mar 30 2012, 11:46 PM)
The looks..I like the Elantra better..but value for money Kia Forte 2.0SX is the winner

Test drove Forte 2.0SX on Wednesday and today test drove the Elantra 1.8...like the Forte better in terms of acceleration, handling and I feel the NVH is better in Forte. I can hear the engine roaring in Elantra when I floored the pedal but in Forte the engine sounds pleasant from inside the cabin.

I am not a bias towards KIA and this is my honest opinion. I have used Hyundai Getz, Matrix and Trajet before, so I though of buying Elantra..but after the test drive I think I'm going for Forte.
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aiyoh if you can accept the forte looks, long time also should have bought la no need to wait elantra.. for the price/spec comparison naza is way stronger.
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How big is your 'group'? laugh.gif
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aiyoh if you can accept the forte looks, long time also should have bought la no need to wait elantra.. for the price/spec comparison naza is way stronger.
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wow you boom it gao gao. But is true. why wana wait elantra ya??? Sumthng is bothering you

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Erm, can i ask for discount if in group buy?
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is this after you read he sell 4-5 cars also can untung alot liao.. laugh.gif
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Some people are not willing to pay 100-200 more monthly for a car they like, but willing to pay 400-500 more monthly for a standard-spec Japanese car laugh.gif

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is this after you read he sell 4-5 cars also can untung alot liao..  laugh.gif
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yes the spare tyre is those emergency size. The well look like it can fit a 17".

SD and Hyundai is trying hard to move up the food chain. There's quite an investment in the preview event and it certainly don't look like a budget car launch. If SD can knock a few thousand off, this look sure hit.

The AVN unit is certainly a local spec-ed thing. The GPS is Papago and i think its version M3. I took a look at the reverse camera attached at the back, look like its a double side tape work, i may be wrong but it sure look like another local addition. The AVN though i suspect is local, fit nicely in and i was told all the steering control work with the AVN. One give away is the AVN come with bluetooth but i cant see any call answer button on the steering. Doesn't make sense if the handfree button is located right in the middle of the center console unless its an after thought.

2 thing I notice misisng is the retracable side mirror and the light on the door when you open the door (kinda like warning to others there is a object). no big deal but i expect these on a "premium" spec.

If i compare the spec with the other Japs, this is certainly 1 up compared to Civic and Altis 1.8 model. This come with Nappa leather, "integrated" AVN, sunroof etc. but RM112k OTR may be a little too much to ask for a Hyundai for now. The Korean will shed their budget tag one day, just like the Japs did but probably this gen Elantra come too soon for some of us.

if i have to make the choice, a few thousand discount will help but right now, i'll hold my on and see if there is any promotion in the future.





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can change the spare tyre to like the main tyres?
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yes the spare tyre is those emergency size.  The well look like it can fit a 17".

SD and Hyundai is trying hard to move up the food chain.  There's quite an investment in the preview event and it certainly don't look like a budget car launch.  If SD can knock a few thousand off, this look sure hit.

The AVN unit is certainly a local spec-ed thing.  The GPS is Papago and i think its version M3.  I took a look at the reverse camera attached at the back, look like its a double side tape work, i may be wrong but it sure look like another local addition.  The AVN though i suspect is local, fit nicely in and i was told all the steering control work with the AVN.  One give away is the AVN come with bluetooth but i cant see any call answer button on the steering.  Doesn't make sense if the handfree button is located right in the middle of the center console unless its an after thought.

2 thing I notice misisng is the retracable side mirror and the light on the door when you open the door (kinda like warning to others there is a object).  no big deal but i expect these on a "premium" spec.

If i compare the spec with the other Japs, this is certainly 1 up compared to Civic and Altis 1.8 model.  This come with Nappa leather, "integrated" AVN, sunroof etc. but RM112k OTR may be a little too much to ask for a Hyundai for now.  The Korean will shed their budget tag one day, just like the Japs did but probably this gen Elantra come too soon for some of us.

if i have to make the choice, a few thousand discount will help but right now, i'll hold my on and see if there is any promotion in the future.
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can change the spare tyre to like the main tyres?
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problem is how do you get the rim to look like the others??? unless you don't mind yur 17" spare rim look different. i don't think SD will put in a 5th rim into the spare for you.

The only option i am told now is the skirting.

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problem is how do you get the rim to look like the others???  unless you don't mind yur 17" spare rim look different.  i don't think SD will put in a 5th rim into the spare for you.

The only option i am told now is the skirting.
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Can always ask service center whether they can help you order one. It won't make sense there's no 'spare' rims(pun intended). If not how those with damaged rim going to get back the same design rims?

It's another problem whether the well is deep enough to fit a full size spare tyre.
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 12:10 AM)
Can always ask service center whether they can help you order one. It won't make sense there's no 'spare' rims(pun intended). If not how those with damaged rim going to get back the same design rims?

It's another problem whether the well is deep enough to fit a full size spare tyre.
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Tested 1.6hs and 1.8 with 2 in front and 1 passenger. Not really full test drive but purely to test and feel on the acceleration.

1.6h.s acceleration seems sluggish from the beginning but picking up in later stage.. yup underpower. My myvi1.3A easily win from 0-100km but personally still feel better then forte 1.6sx.
1.8 is much more feeling like driving a C-segment car and slightly better and responsive like myvi feeling but really don't feel vroom power on it. Still can bear with it.

Interior wise, in common, hand break really feeling cheapo as mentioned by some earlier. Door close sound does not really feel sound solid when slam the door... i prefer more solid sound and feel high class with that sound haha.


1.6sx, interior as expected, basic one. Leather is okay. 1.8 Nappa leather really nice. the look and feel is 1 grade upper than 1.6hs.

SA offer extra rm500 on trade in car, rm500 on tint, full tank, smartag and tissot watch if book by this week. They can't promise any better deal as they don't even know their commission at the moment...

In short, don't really feel a deal breaker at the moment. If would like to purchase, i will recommend 1.8 or go for forte 2.0.

anyway, i will not make any purchase as 1.8 is still slightly higher with current spec to me. 1.6 underpower





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Beh tahan of all those comments, so i did it! i hope to send these to SD now~~~
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what is next choice then? P321 ?
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Probably will, it's located above the rear view mirror. So have your tint technician cut around it, same for the autolight sensor.
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huh ? cut around it will make the tint look cacat or not ?

u mean autolight sensor also located at the same place as rain sensor ?

seems like i have to drop my super dark tint dream liao.
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1.6 Manual Standard RM86,888
1.6 Auto Standard RM91,888
1.6 Auto High Spec RM96,888
1.8 Premium Auto RM111,888

this price is really pulling a lot of potential buyers far far away.. As one of it here..
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now in dilemma either waiting 2nd batch or buy forte now....number plate also tend to go tender edi...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 31 2012, 12:29 AM)
sorry dun look interesting inside and out..

lets be honest, if the elantra look like forte i dun think will chat until so many pages.. and wait over 1year right?  biggrin.gif
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lol bro

since when ~100k consider cheap ? tongue.gif

then those proton 40-50k? dirt cheap?
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lol bro

since when ~100k consider cheap ? tongue.gif

then those proton 40-50k? dirt cheap?
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p12 or watever prevee like pervert if they put 70k compare to 100k forte, 112 elantra, still not gonna pandang p-watsoever what else to buy p-watsoever
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me 2 =/

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QUOTE(tony @ Mar 31 2012, 01:11 AM)
huh ? cut around it will make the tint look cacat or not ?

u mean autolight sensor also located at the same place as rain sensor ?

seems like i have to drop my super dark tint dream liao.
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Tinting don't adhere well to the black borders of a windscreen, the part near the rear view mirror has like a protruding border so the tint technician will cut a piece to go around it.

Light sensors are small diodes anyway, so even if you cut a small hole around the tint to compensate, it won't leave a gap that's overly offending.

This might be what happen if you have tinting interfering with autolight sensor. Tested on a Starex. Windscreen cannot put tint that is too dark anyway, JPJ not approve laugh.gif



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There are a few kind of Hyundai doubters out there

The first kind is the previous bad experience doubter, which is willing to take another Hyundai as long as the old problem has been rectified.

The second kind is the doubter with a curious mind why is Hyundai doing so well compared to last time.

The third kind and sadly the biggest majority kind, is the kind that are defensive about their POV against Hyundai, and will never agree to any clear strong point in a Hyundai car.

Easy deals from the first kind are usually people who thinks it's about to time to trade in their Getz, Matrix or their 'first' car without much complaint.

For the second kind of doubters, I suggest you come and take a look at the car in the metal, Hyundai cars aren't photogenic, Sonata look horrid in photograph.

From my experience, the third kind can never be converted, might as well focus our attention to the first 2 kind where the bulk of our sales come from.

Selling 4 Elantra per month won't be hard, after all, I can sell 'overpriced LM and YF' just to about anyone monthly. 4-5 cars' commission is more than what some people's basic salary is working in some company for years. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 02:09 AM)
Tinting don't adhere well to the black borders of a windscreen, the part near the rear view mirror has like a protruding border so the tint technician will cut a piece to go around it.

Light sensors are small diodes anyway, so even if you cut a small hole around the tint to compensate, it won't leave a gap that's overly offending.

This might be what happen if you have tinting interfering with autolight sensor. Tested on a Starex. Windscreen cannot put tint that is too dark anyway, JPJ not approve laugh.gif


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thanks bro for the explaination...

Live in Penang Island for so many years, not even seen a JPJ road block before, from Georgetown area to my house.

So JPJ not approved is not an issue to me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zlyc @ Mar 31 2012, 12:28 AM)
Tested 1.6hs and 1.8 with 2 in front and 1 passenger. Not really full test drive but purely to test and feel on the acceleration.

1.6h.s acceleration seems sluggish from the beginning but picking up in later stage.. yup underpower. My myvi1.3A easily win from 0-100km but personally still feel better then forte 1.6sx.
1.8 is much more feeling like driving a C-segment car and slightly better and responsive like myvi feeling but really don't feel vroom power on it. Still can bear with it.

Interior wise, in common, hand break really feeling cheapo as mentioned by some earlier. Door close sound does not really feel sound solid when slam the door... i prefer more solid sound and feel high class with that sound haha.

1.6sx, interior as expected, basic one. Leather is okay. 1.8 Nappa leather really nice. the look and feel is 1 grade upper than 1.6hs.

SA offer extra rm500 on trade in car, rm500 on tint, full tank, smartag and tissot watch if book by this week. They can't promise any better deal as they don't even know their commission at the moment...

In short, don't really feel a deal breaker at the moment. If would like to purchase, i will recommend 1.8 or go for forte 2.0.

anyway, i will not make any purchase as 1.8 is still slightly higher with current spec to me. 1.6 underpower
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Why not try working in car sales a month and rethink what you assumed? Or take on a car dealership and try to juggle around with a narrow dealer margin? smile.gif

My showroom has been understaffed since opening 4 years ago, because many comes and go thinking selling 2-3 cars per month can become overnight millionaire, once they realize it's not true, they run away after working 3 months. You think those free tinting, full tank, smart tags, higher trade in price magically manifest themselves out of thin air? BTW, there are cars that I only earn RM100 commission, for the sake of hitting company's target, I had 3 such 'target hitting' sale in March and for that three, I only earned RM600 selling a Sonata and 2 Tucson.

I live a simple life, unlike many Malaysians. My expenses planning of about RM1,000 per month still I have extra to spend on my gf. smile.gif
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Bro i think u need to start selling perodua cars. Lower comm but high volume.. hyundai low comm,low volume.. how lah?


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Some people are not willing to pay 100-200 more monthly for a car they like, but willing to pay 400-500 more monthly for a standard-spec Japanese car laugh.gif

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I am a simple living dude lah, comm+basic RM3,000 per month I happy already
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Cuz jap car might be more exp in the beginning but over the span of 5 years its cheaper n easier to maintain. Dont be penny wise pound foolish

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aiyoh if you can accept the forte looks, long time also should have bought la no need to wait elantra.. for the price/spec comparison naza is way stronger.
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Bro i think u need to start selling perodua cars. Lower comm but high volume.. hyundai low comm,low volume.. how lah?
Cuz jap car might be more exp in the beginning but over the span of 5 years its cheaper n easier to maintain. Dont be penny wise pound foolish
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Got new japanese car can pay 400-500 monthly with 10% downpayment? Wow!!!

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 31 2012, 06:22 AM)
Bro i think u need to start selling perodua cars. Lower comm but high volume.. hyundai low comm,low volume.. how lah?
Cuz jap car might be more exp in the beginning but over the span of 5 years its cheaper n easier to maintain. Dont be penny wise pound foolish
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On average, Perodua showrooms has at least 10-20 SAs, assuming 40 Myvis per month, the average is 2 car per SA, and the SAs there aren't as kind as you think they are. I am not willing to play the Hunger Games.

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Cuz jap car might be more exp in the beginning but over the span of 5 years its cheaper n easier to maintain. Dont be penny wise pound foolish
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QUOTE(dopp @ Mar 30 2012, 11:28 PM)
Thanks, bro ... added a picture of the boot but am afraid it's not very clear.

As for the tires, there are more pictures here:

http://kensomuse.blogspot.com/2012/03/immi...ew-hyundai.html
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Test drove both 1.6 & 1.8, and both 2 times.........hahaha biggrin.gif

One thing to add, I tested on a much further route, if you are familiar with the area, you know how to make that long U-turn looking @ Empire... icon_idea.gif tongue.gif

And, as some knew, i owned H, and Hyundai before....

1.8
with its published spec of ~ 2.0 Civic, I was expecting something in par on acceleration, and pulling.....but, I guess it is slightly better than 1.8 only........
when compare with Forte 2.0 (or even optima 2.0 which i nearly bought), the performance of kia definitely better.

The power of low rpm is good enough for smooth ramp, but if you are splinter, not for you, the power kicks in in higher rpm.
And, mind you, if you press paddle hard enough, the gear shift only appear @ 6500

handling, better than sonata!!! very very similar to civic 1.8, better than kia........

1.6 HS
was a surprise!!!, first, the moment i sit in the car, the feeling was so different, maybe is because of the leather..... might as well put in fabric.........
When I left the parking lot, and started to test, OMG, that is .............. really sluggish!!!! because of my expectation, I felt really dissapointed!!!
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couldnt believe it, i again, took the longer route, with SA icon_question.gif ....

Again, the power only kicks in in high RPM, but low RPM, forget it. For daily use, it should be good enough.
Comparing to forte2.0, forte2.0 wins!

OVERALL:

If you have a budget of 140k:
===>Kia Optima

If you have a budget of 110-120k, or 140k but wife dont approve K5 (because too big for her):
Forget about altis1.8, civic 1.8 etc, ====> Elantra 1.8 (pls dont compare with civic 2.0)

if you have a budget of <100k,
I find if difficult to recommend Elantra 1.6HS, ======> forte 2.0 (with higher spec, better performance, if you dont mind the space la....)

However, if you are upgrading from B-segment (ie city, vios), of expect it to be in par with forte 1.6 (c-segment)........ then you can start bashing SD!!!!!!!!!

P/S: I placed booking for 1.8, good enough for me, which clock around 70-80k mileage every year............








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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 30 2012, 06:55 PM)
since you really like it get elantra lor..  biggrin.gif


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Got new japanese car can pay 400-500 monthly with 10% downpayment? Wow!!!
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read properly la.. "MORE.."


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QUOTE(Chongkor @ Mar 31 2012, 06:34 AM)
After 1 year of buying the car, then u will see many in the road and Forte came with cooler design. Eventually u and ppl around you will get boring with the car also, why so emphasizing just merely on the "LOOK" ?
as i said earlier, if people think like you then no need to wait 1 year for the elantra lor. just buy the 2L forte already .. who (foreign brands of the same segment) can beat naza on pricing?

as for me yeah every 1-2years i buy new cars cos i get bored with them real fast, so JAPS with high resale value is a must.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tony @ Mar 31 2012, 03:00 AM)
thanks bro for the explaination...

Live in Penang Island for so many years, not even seen a JPJ road block before, from Georgetown area to my house.

So JPJ not approved is not an issue to me  tongue.gif
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because of your comments, today onwards there'll be many JPJ road blocks brows.gif


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QUOTE(zlyc @ Mar 31 2012, 12:28 AM)
Tested 1.6hs and 1.8 with 2 in front and 1 passenger. Not really full test drive but purely to test and feel on the acceleration.

1.6h.s acceleration seems sluggish from the beginning but picking up in later stage.. yup underpower. My myvi1.3A easily win from 0-100km but personally still feel better then forte 1.6sx.
1.8 is much more feeling like driving a C-segment car and slightly better and responsive like myvi feeling but really don't feel vroom power on it. Still can bear with it.

Interior wise, in common, hand break really feeling cheapo as mentioned by some earlier. Door close sound does not really feel sound solid when slam the door... i prefer more solid sound and feel high class with that sound haha.
1.6sx, interior as expected, basic one. Leather is okay. 1.8 Nappa leather really nice. the look and feel is 1 grade upper than 1.6hs.

SA offer extra rm500 on trade in car, rm500 on tint, full tank, smartag and tissot watch if book by this week. They can't promise any better deal as they don't even know their commission at the moment...

In short, don't really feel a deal breaker at the moment. If would like to purchase, i will recommend 1.8 or go for forte 2.0.

anyway, i will not make any purchase as 1.8 is still slightly higher with current spec to me. 1.6 underpower
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because of your comments, today onwards there'll be many JPJ road blocks  brows.gif


Added on March 31, 2012, 9:54 amplanned to buy 1.6HS but everybody says sluggish..how la sad.gif
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You really have to try it first. So many people are driving Persona and even Exora which are a lot more underpower than Elantra/Forte 1.6 biggrin.gif

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[quote=caddilac,Mar 31 2012, 10:24 AM]
Myvi 1.3A can accelerate from 0-100 within 11.6s? :




Maybe he say under normal daily acceleration (not WOT),I tried my gf myvi acceleration not bad quite responsive until 60 maybe of the gear ratio la but elantra I feel abit sluggish maybe due to the Eco mode I might be wrong

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Will go to Kah Bintang Sunny Point Penang test drive today. biggrin.gif
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Please test drive with ECO-MODE OFF & review. Thanks. notworthy.gif
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ECO mode. someone can help to confirm it can actually be turned off before official launch next week? that's the first thing I'm going check and disable, if can.
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Mar 31 2012, 10:55 AM)

Myvi 1.3A can accelerate from 0-100 within 11.6s? :

Maybe he say under normal daily acceleration (not WOT),I tried my gf myvi acceleration not bad quite responsive until 60 maybe of the gear ratio la but elantra I feel abit sluggish maybe due to the Eco mode I might be wrong
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ECO mode. someone can help to confirm it can actually be turned off before official launch next week? that's the first thing I'm going check and disable, if can.
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the feature should be standard worldwide... Try to use the Trip and reset button on steering wheel to toggle the Menu in cluster

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On average, Perodua showrooms has at least 10-20 SAs, assuming 40 Myvis per month, the average is 2 car per SA, and the SAs there aren't as kind as you think they are. I am not willing to play the Hunger Games.
I would love to see a comparison between Camry/Accord service schedule vs the Sonata to have this verified. Genuine parts, genuine service center.
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 07:06 AM)
On average, Perodua showrooms has at least 10-20 SAs, assuming 40 Myvis per month, the average is 2 car per SA, and the SAs there aren't as kind as you think they are. I am not willing to play the Hunger Games.
I would love to see a comparison between Camry/Accord service schedule vs the Sonata to have this verified. Genuine parts, genuine service center.
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average 2 car per SA / month better than 2 car sales per year for elantra. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 11:13 AM)
But he said myvi easily win 0-100 sweat.gif


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the feature should be standard worldwide... Try to use the Trip and reset button on steering wheel to toggle the Menu in cluster
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Yes just test drove. Stop the car first, toggle to econmode screen, press n hold trip button. It will toggle between on/off
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Yes just test drove. Stop the car first, toggle to econmode screen, press n hold  trip button. It will toggle between on/off
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QUOTE(666devil @ Mar 31 2012, 02:27 PM)
Yes just test drove. Stop the car first, toggle to econmode screen, press n hold  trip button. It will toggle between on/off
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so got any difference between on and off?
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On n off.... no different... floor the paddle, still rav over 5.5k rpm... almost 6k rpm n a bit more touching red line dy..
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 31 2012, 02:44 PM)
Devil is right... 

On n off.... no different...  floor the paddle, still rav over 5.5k rpm... almost 6k rpm n a bit more touching red line dy..
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Can't feel difference with such short test drive. But big difference between 1.6 and 1.8. 1.6 damn underpowered and sluggish response
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There is no diff btwn on n off... just letting u know u driving style is eco or not when u on.... 1.6 r slower than a vios/city on pick up....


The seat leather for 1.6 is on par...... on par with ....

























Myvi....
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So in short, if planning to buy 1.6HS, Forte 1.6SX will be a better ??
I can't decide between Elantra and Forte.
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QUOTE(ezee123 @ Mar 31 2012, 03:05 PM)
So in short, if planning to buy 1.6HS, Forte 1.6SX will be a better ??
I can't decide between Elantra and Forte.
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Also confirmed power windows is auto up and down for driver side
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Both 1.6 give very similar feeling...

Confirm forte 1.6sx n 2.0 c/w touch screen navigation..
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bufung,

when you take your elantra
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Just came back from the test drive this morning, tested both 1.6 HS and 1.8.

Some thoughts

1.6

Build quality is quite decent
Engine performance really lacking especially when you take 4 ppl in the car, 2 person is still alright.
Interior space is generous and good looking exterior
Handling is a bit on the soft side, good while going over bumps and normal driving. But there is no chance to hit a corner during the test drive, too many cars on the road.

1,8

Same build
Way better engine performance compare to the 1.6, but i still feel the altis/civic has better torque
Same interior, better leather
Same handling

Conclusion.
Overall is an ok car but I would go for the 1.6 low spec the only difference is the panaromic steering adjustment that most ppl do not need. But do note the VSC, its a good safety feature but not compulsory, been driving without 1 for years.

*Leather is shit, the 1.6 leather feels like plastic and cheap. The 1.8 supposedly nappa leather doesn't feel like it but its better than 1.6. I think the inspira 2.0 leather is way better than them.

Bad decision by SD, they should omit the leather or make it optional and slash 2k of the price.
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Mar 31 2012, 04:41 PM)
Just came back from the test drive this morning, tested both 1.6 HS and 1.8.

Some thoughts

1.6

Build quality is quite decent
Engine performance really lacking especially when you take 4 ppl in the car, 2 person is still alright.
Interior space is generous and good looking exterior
Handling is a bit on the soft side, good while going over bumps and normal driving. But there is no chance to hit a corner during the test drive, too many cars on the road.

1,8

Same build
Way better engine performance compare to the 1.6, but i still feel the altis/civic has better torque
Same interior, better leather
Same handling

Conclusion.
Overall is an ok car but I would go for the 1.6 low spec the only difference is the panaromic steering adjustment that most ppl do not need. But do note the VSC, its a good safety feature but not compulsory, been driving without 1 for years.

*Leather is shit, the 1.6 leather feels like plastic and cheap. The 1.8 supposedly nappa leather doesn't feel like it but its better than 1.6. I think the inspira 2.0 leather is way better than them.

Bad decision by SD, they should omit the leather or make it optional and slash 2k of the price.
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Thx for the input .... More more 1.6 comments hehe
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Just testdrove today at Citta. Like the car but biggest setback to me was the headroom for the rear passenger. Although not as low as Honda Insight, however my hair can touch the top while sitting straight. I'm 5ft10. Imagine a 6 footer. Legroom was very spacious. Just the headroom is my concern.
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only 1.8 comes with gps rite ?
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QUOTE(sheahann @ Mar 31 2012, 04:57 PM)
only 1.8 comes with gps rite ?
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 31 2012, 02:44 PM)
Devil is right... 

On n off.... no different...  floor the paddle, still rav over 5.5k rpm... almost 6k rpm n a bit more touching red line dy..
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On the Sonata, there IS a difference .... since it was a company that was rented, 3 of my staffs tested with and without ECO Mode and the engine response is indeed different (even though the rev line remains similar). Do try to test it with ECO on and off to confirm if this trait is also present in the Elantra
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Mar 31 2012, 04:41 PM)
Just came back from the test drive this morning, tested both 1.6 HS and 1.8.

Some thoughts

1.6

Build quality is quite decent
Engine performance really lacking especially when you take 4 ppl in the car, 2 person is still alright.
Interior space is generous and good looking exterior
Handling is a bit on the soft side, good while going over bumps and normal driving. But there is no chance to hit a corner during the test drive, too many cars on the road.

1,8

Same build
Way better engine performance compare to the 1.6, but i still feel the altis/civic has better torque
Same interior, better leather
Same handling

Conclusion.
Overall is an ok car but I would go for the 1.6 low spec the only difference is the panaromic steering adjustment that most ppl do not need. But do note the VSC, its a good safety feature but not compulsory, been driving without 1 for years.

*Leather is shit, the 1.6 leather feels like plastic and cheap. The 1.8 supposedly nappa leather doesn't feel like it but its better than 1.6. I think the inspira 2.0 leather is way better than them.

Bad decision by SD, they should omit the leather or make it optional and slash 2k of the price.
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Decent comment... kind of agree....

Yes, the 1.8 leather ar mix wt high n low quality... not like inspira full nappa...

Do have a look on those plastic use outside the car.... u comment urself... i dowan to talk too much...

And again.. yes, i very much prefer they use fabric instead of the plastic like leather in the 1.6...

If i drive the 1.6.. i think i will floor the paddle every time...


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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Mar 31 2012, 05:01 PM)
On the Sonata, there IS a difference .... since it was a company that was rented, 3 of my staffs tested with and without ECO Mode and the engine response is indeed different (even though the rev line remains similar). Do try to test it
with ECO on and off to confirm if this trait is also present in the Elantra
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Tested both... i cant feel shit diff sorry captain..


Added on March 31, 2012, 5:12 pmThe roof line of this car... in the seat next to drive... since the seat cannot adjust up or down, head to roof space are less than my punch size. Probably less than 2inche... back sit... i sit straight... my palm put flat cannot go in.. i pull my neck a bit.. touxhing roof...

The front seat of this car is very slim hence make the back leg room decent...

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So BF have u decide yet? Did ur SA give any discount?
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For someone who used to be driving Kia Carens for the past 8 years, do you think she will find the Elantra 1.6 underpower?
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QUOTE(666devil @ Mar 31 2012, 06:28 PM)
So BF have u decide yet? Did ur SA give any discount?
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 31 2012, 03:41 PM)
Both 1.6 give very similar feeling...

Confirm forte 1.6sx n 2.0 c/w touch screen navigation..
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so now forte ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ezee123 @ Mar 31 2012, 06:30 PM)
For someone who used to be driving Kia Carens for the past 8 years, do you think she will find the Elantra 1.6 underpower?
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Carens 1.8 or 2.0?


Added on March 31, 2012, 6:53 pmIf Elantra 1.6 has similar performance with Forte 1.6SX, then I will be perfectly fine with it rclxms.gif
I found that 1.6HS also has sliding center console as in 1.8 but 1.8 don't have ECM...

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when I saw the car....
- appearance disappointing ohmy.gif
- feeling inside ain't solid, plastic sad.gif
- it got u thinking, 97k for a SKD....... mad.gif
- WASTED FREAKING 1 YEAR AND 3 MONTHS FOR THIS PLASTIC!!! cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
seriously piece of crap for me vmad.gif

BYE BYE ELANTRA!!!

For you guys who don't mind the plastic feeling, go ahead for FORTE, seriously don't need to wait for this anymore! Such as waste of time!
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QUOTE(J_pandapuppet @ Mar 31 2012, 06:54 PM)
when I saw the car....
- appearance disappointing    ohmy.gif
- feeling inside ain't solid, plastic sad.gif
- it got u thinking, 97k for a SKD....... mad.gif
- WASTED FREAKING 1 YEAR AND 3 MONTHS FOR THIS PLASTIC!!!  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
seriously piece of crap for me  vmad.gif

BYE BYE ELANTRA!!!

For you guys who don't mind the plastic feeling, go ahead for FORTE, seriously don't need to wait for this anymore! Such as waste of time!
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Did you touch and feel the dashboard which the upper section is fully covered in soft plastic? I do admit that the door panel is using hard pastic but it feels more solid than Forte and Elantra has very thick padded arm rest on every door smile.gif
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Devil... lol... no .. no decision... some addition.. the forte test car i think is 1 yr old... start to feel loosing here n there.. korean car quality? Donno..
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 31 2012, 06:58 PM)
Devil... lol...  no .. no decision...  some addition.. the forte test car i think is 1 yr old... start to feel loosing here n there..  korean car quality? Donno..
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[quote=caddilac,Mar 31 2012, 06:45 PM]
Carens 1.8 or 2.0?

Carens 1.8
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dun waste your rm100 deposit la.. fast fast get the elantra..  brows.gif
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BU fung dun delay jor is time to made decision
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 06:57 PM)
Did you touch and feel the dashboard which the upper section is fully covered in soft plastic? I do admit that the door panel is using hard pastic but it feels more solid than Forte and Elantra has very thick padded arm rest on every door smile.gif
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I sat inside the car, what I did in the car is like a harassment I guess...feel everything.
Yeah I did the same in Forte 2.0 before that is why I drop it from my list earlier already...Both ain't solid for me, however, Forte is much roomier. Anyone who consider between Forte and Elantra, must think twice and compare the price.. unless you super dovey lovey with Elantra (which I think I never have any idea why anymore) ...just go ahead lor.. yawn.gif



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Gonna test drive again after the car is available in the show room. Test drive in all terrain to answer all my questions n doubt of the car. Same time gonna test drive Forte 1.6SX again. And Yes, their FL (coming next month) will come with touch screen + GPS. Gonna upgrade my seats to fully Nappa leather too. FOC on body kit and 5 protection tinting.
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Mar 31 2012, 07:09 PM)
Gonna test drive again after the car is available in the show room. Test drive in all terrain to answer all my questions n doubt of the car. Same time gonna test drive Forte 1.6SX again. And Yes, their FL (coming next month) will come with touch screen + GPS. Gonna upgrade my seats to fully Nappa leather too. FOC on body kit and 5 protection tinting.
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QUOTE(J_pandapuppet @ Mar 31 2012, 07:09 PM)
I sat inside the car, what I did in the car is like a harassment I guess...feel everything.
Yeah I did the same in Forte 2.0 before that is why I drop it from my list earlier already...Both ain't solid for me, however, Forte is much roomier. Anyone who consider between Forte and Elantra, must think twice and compare the price.. unless you super dovey lovey with Elantra (which I think I never have any idea why anymore) ...just go ahead lor..  yawn.gif
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any other car that is in your mind now?
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 06:45 PM)
Carens 1.8 or 2.0?

Carens 1.8
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on paper elantra shud be slightly better but better ask her to try out the Elantra first.. smile.gif


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I sat inside the car, what I did in the car is like a harassment I guess...feel everything.
Yeah I did the same in Forte 2.0 before that is why I drop it from my list earlier already...Both ain't solid for me, however, Forte is much roomier. Anyone who consider between Forte and Elantra, must think twice and compare the price.. unless you super dovey lovey with Elantra (which I think I never have any idea why anymore) ...just go ahead lor..  yawn.gif
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Too bad then. Personally i can't find another car within 100k to have similar quality as elantra biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 07:35 PM)
on paper elantra shud be slightly better but better ask her to try out the Elantra first.. smile.gif


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Too bad then. Personally i can't find another car within 100k to have similar quality as elantra biggrin.gif
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I found it... Sit in it... U feel 1 class higher...
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I found it...  Sit in it... U feel 1 class higher...
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hahahah, but sit outside u might feel different/opposite wor


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If solid is the main concern. Go get German made. No one can beat German in term of solid.

Their car is solid.

Their national football team is solid.

Their economy is solid.

Their technology is solid.

Their ex Nazi solders is solid too.

German = Solid

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Just back from test drive...Very light steering and do come with 6 speakers..But disappointed of 2 points - no auto lock system and power foldable side mirror..haih

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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Mar 31 2012, 07:09 PM)
Gonna test drive again after the car is available in the show room. Test drive in all terrain to answer all my questions n doubt of the car. Same time gonna test drive Forte 1.6SX again. And Yes, their FL (coming next month) will come with touch screen + GPS. Gonna upgrade my seats to fully Nappa leather too. FOC on body kit and 5 protection tinting.
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forte 2.0 also got FL?
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hahahah, but sit outside u might feel different/opposite wor
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QUOTE(kenyc84 @ Mar 31 2012, 07:47 PM)
Just back from test drive...Very light steering and do come with 6 speakers..But disappointed of 2 points - no auto lock system and power foldable side mirror..haih
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sure boh no auto lock ?
damn i forgot to check...
another point for me not to get already..

anyone can confirm the auto lock pls?
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QUOTE(tony @ Mar 31 2012, 07:47 PM)
If solid is the main concern. Go get German made. No one can beat German in term of solid.

Their car is solid.

Their national football team is solid.

Their economy is solid.

Their technology is solid.

Their ex Nazi solders is solid too.

German = Solid
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But Jetta is not really solid... I found that the interior quality of Elantra is better than Jetta biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(666devil @ Mar 31 2012, 08:06 PM)
sure boh no auto lock ?
damn i forgot to check...
another point for me not to get already..

anyone can confirm the auto lock pls?
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1600 booking so far, majority is 1.8L Premium.

People rushed and waited around the parking lot as the Elantra come down from the trailer. I've never sat down ever since till 8:30pm.

So critics, what say you? And tomorrow is the last day to get a free watch from SD. Plus first batch is running out fast.

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the 1.8 come with the same rim design with 1.6?

i saw one like sport edition...quite cool in the showroom today....

what do u guys mean no auto lock?
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QUOTE(maru @ Mar 31 2012, 09:08 PM)
the 1.8 come with the same rim design with 1.6?

i saw one like sport edition...quite cool in the showroom today....

what do u guys mean no auto lock?
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Auto lock meaning whenever the car reaches certain speed, the central locking locks itself, or by pushing the brake it'll lock.

Anyone tried the autolight with escort function btw?
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 09:07 PM)
1600 booking so far, majority is 1.8L Premium.

People rushed and waited around the parking lot as the Elantra come down from the trailer. I've never sat down ever since till 8:30pm.

So critics, what say you? And tomorrow is the last day to get a free watch from SD. Plus first batch is running out fast.
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Sad nt many ppl taking 1.6 ... 1.6 nt tat laku ImHo sad.gif
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if wan to burn 110k + on a car might as well get sylphy.....slightly old but enuf power to push more than elantra....other than the value for price forte
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Mar 31 2012, 09:26 PM)
Sad nt many ppl taking 1.6 ... 1.6 nt tat laku ImHo sad.gif
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 09:21 PM)
Auto lock meaning whenever the car reaches certain speed, the central locking locks itself, or by pushing the brake it'll lock.

Anyone tried the autolight with escort function btw?
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So bro C, confirmed no auto lock? I tried Eco mode on/off but can't feel the difference. I only know 1.6 damn sluggish.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 31 2012, 09:43 PM)
so u getting which one?  biggrin.gif
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To choose most prolly 1.6
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Mar 31 2012, 09:47 PM)
To choose most prolly 1.6
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looks like vios J will smoke u..  biggrin.gif
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Definitely... Vios is very powerful coz of its light weight... Less than 1.1tonnes right? biggrin.gif

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Definitely... Vios is very powerful coz of its light weight... Less than 1.1tonnes right? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 09:07 PM)
1600 booking so far, majority is 1.8L Premium.

People rushed and waited around the parking lot as the Elantra come down from the trailer. I've never sat down ever since till 8:30pm.

So critics, what say you? And tomorrow is the last day to get a free watch from SD. Plus first batch is running out fast.
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Wow! 1600 is quite impressive if most people confirm their bookings!
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looks like vios J will smoke u..  biggrin.gif
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if wan to burn 110k + on a car might as well get sylphy.....slightly old but enuf power to push more than elantra....other than the value for price forte
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Sylphy is very powerful~ Lack of VSM/ESC is one of the major factor stopping me from buying it biggrin.gif
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free watch, is it only booking in Citta Mall?
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QUOTE(666devil @ Mar 31 2012, 09:45 PM)
So bro C, confirmed no auto lock? I tried Eco mode on/off but can't feel the difference. I only know 1.6 damn sluggish.
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Today I got no chance to explore the car at all. Customer chain combo and most of my in car experience comes from the 1.8 rclxub.gif

Sluggishness takes a while to get used to, cause the automatic is programmed for smooth and fuel efficient driving that's why there's a slight hesitation when you floor the pedal suddenly. Use the semi-shifter if you want to see how far you can push any Hyundai's model.

Free watch is for all dealers, as long as you're the first 2000 booking.


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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 10:18 PM)
Today I got no chance to explore the car at all. Customer chain combo and most of my in car experience comes from the 1.8 rclxub.gif

Sluggishness takes a while to get used to, cause the automatic is programmed for smooth and fuel efficient driving that's why there's a slight hesitation when you floor the pedal suddenly. Use the semi-shifter if you want to see how far you can push any Hyundai's model.

Free watch is for all dealers, as long as you're the first 2000 booking.
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so wht offer or discount u can make?
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QUOTE(chunjiet @ Mar 31 2012, 10:20 PM)
so wht offer or discount u can make?
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What's your expectation?
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QUOTE(FluidicSculpture @ Mar 31 2012, 10:18 PM)
Today I got no chance to explore the car at all. Customer chain combo and most of my in car experience comes from the 1.8 rclxub.gif

Sluggishness takes a while to get used to, cause the automatic is programmed for smooth and fuel efficient driving that's why there's a slight hesitation when you floor the pedal suddenly. Use the semi-shifter if you want to see how far you can push any Hyundai's model.

Free watch is for all dealers, as long as you're the first 2000 booking.
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The first 2000 in whole Malaysia will get the free watch?
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QUOTE(chunjiet @ Mar 31 2012, 10:22 PM)
just wish to know the best u can offer lor...
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Can confirm booking then I discuss with my manager and boss. smile.gif

QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 10:25 PM)
The first 2000 in whole Malaysia will get the free watch?
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Either that or before 1st April. smile.gif
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Can confirm booking then I discuss with my manager and boss. smile.gif
Either that or before 1st April. smile.gif
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same unknown condition rclxms.gif
hope can get good good news from hyundai smile.gif
like free tint , bodykit , badge +cash rebate lol
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Can confirm booking then I discuss with my manager and boss. smile.gif
Either that or before 1st April. smile.gif
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Normally when will get the watch? Coz I booked last July and paid my deposit before CNY but i didn't get it also sad.gif
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Can confirm booking then I discuss with my manager and boss. smile.gif
Either that or before 1st April. smile.gif
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I don't even know what's the point of placing the RM500 booking fees the last couple months. If say someone (no booking or whatsoever), went on Saturday, test drive, and placed order. And me, who placed RM500 booking few months back went the following week for test drive and placed order. Who will get the car first?
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QUOTE(harpyboy @ Mar 31 2012, 10:34 PM)
I don't even know what's the point of placing the RM500 booking fees the last couple months. If say someone (no booking or whatsoever), went on Saturday, test drive, and placed order. And me, who placed RM500 booking few months back went the following week for test drive and placed order. Who will get the car first?
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whose banker approved , get 1st... lol
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QUOTE(harpyboy @ Mar 31 2012, 10:34 PM)
I don't even know what's the point of placing the RM500 booking fees the last couple months. If say someone (no booking or whatsoever), went on Saturday, test drive, and placed order. And me, who placed RM500 booking few months back went the following week for test drive and placed order. Who will get the car first?
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Your SA got enter your name into the system or not 3 weeks ago? If got you're entitled to the watch.

QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 10:31 PM)
Normally when will get the watch? Coz I booked last July and paid my deposit before CNY but i didn't get it also sad.gif
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SD isn't silly smile.gif Of course when get car that time only can redeem the watch.

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Normally when will get the watch? Coz I booked last July and paid my deposit before CNY but i didn't get it also sad.gif
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aiyoh so harddap watch meh? biggrin.gif
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Finally i had test the car today and decide take 1.6 HS.
This is awesome care for me.
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QUOTE(SKINMan @ Mar 31 2012, 11:07 PM)
Finally i had test the car today and decide take 1.6 HS.
This is awesome care for me.
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can draft out a review for us please??? smile.gif

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Finally i had test the car today and decide take 1.6 HS.
This is awesome care for me.
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aiyoh so harddap watch meh?  biggrin.gif
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Coz i booked soooo early mah... too bad dun hv loyalty rebate... lolz
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why www.livelifedrive.com says the price is 108803?
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why www.livelifedrive.com says the price is 108803?
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The price does not include insurance (3085MYR).

Otherwise the retail price would have been 111888MYR

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...13574754&type=3


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QUOTE(ahming @ Apr 1 2012, 12:22 AM)
The price does not include insurance (3085MYR).

Otherwise the retail price would have been 111888MYR

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...13574754&type=3
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forte 2.0 also got FL?
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Yes if I m not mistaken. As I went to both 1U roadshow and KIA show room next to Federal Highway today. The SA told me they r waiting for the new 2.0 FL to come in next week n also the 1.6 out from the garage (seemed like someone back into something n need some paint job) before I can test drive it.
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n Spec different between 1.6 Auto Std and HS are only the ESP and steering? Worth the 5k?
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Apr 1 2012, 12:32 AM)
Yes if I m not mistaken. As I went to both 1U roadshow and KIA show room next to Federal Highway today. The SA told me they r waiting for the new 2.0 FL to come in next week n also the 1.6 out from the garage (seemed like someone back into something n need some paint job) before I can test drive it.
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thanks for the info. then have to wait till next week to see what will the FL comes with.
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QUOTE(pmchin @ Apr 1 2012, 12:42 AM)
n Spec different between 1.6 Auto Std and HS are only the ESP and steering? Worth the 5k?
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Leather different color as well according to the brochure. Grey for standard spec. Among other things you won't get alloy pedals, supervision cluster, telescopic steering and 2 speaker less. I feel 5k is worth converting to high-spec.


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Test drove the 1.8 yesterday.
Felt that the engine sound began to sip in at 2K+ RPM.
It was unbearable when pushed to 6K+ RPM, it gave loud whining sound.
Is the sound insulation that bad?
Anyone experienced this?
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QUOTE(orcinus @ Apr 1 2012, 08:14 AM)
Test drove the 1.8 yesterday.
Felt that the engine sound began to sip in at 2K+ RPM.
It was unbearable when pushed to 6K+ RPM, it gave loud whining sound.
Is the sound insulation that bad?
Anyone experienced this?
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Cut cost on insulation mah..
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QUOTE(pmchin @ Apr 1 2012, 12:42 AM)
n Spec different between 1.6 Auto Std and HS are only the ESP and steering? Worth the 5k?
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Spec comparison of all Elantra variants updated in the blog:

http://kensomuse.blogspot.com/2012/03/hyun...impossible.html

Whether it's worth the extra, you be the judge smile.gif

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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Apr 1 2012, 12:32 AM)
Yes if I m not mistaken. As I went to both 1U roadshow and KIA show room next to Federal Highway today. The SA told me they r waiting for the new 2.0 FL to come in next week n also the 1.6 out from the garage (seemed like someone back into something n need some paint job) before I can test drive it.
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Is it physical appearance change or just fixed with hu?
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Cut cost on insulation mah..
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I've seen an article and a video saying the US Elantra cone with some volcanic Rick insert to dampen noise. i guest we are not getting that.

the 1.8 does make some noise when pressed.
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 1 2012, 10:34 AM)
Spec comparison of all Elantra variants updated in the blog:

http://kensomuse.blogspot.com/2012/03/hyun...impossible.html

Whether it's worth the extra, you be the judge  smile.gif
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another spammer directing their links. doh.gif
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Is it physical appearance change or just fixed with hu?
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Physical appearance (exterior) should be exactly the same. Interior wise I think they just add in the touch screen + GPS.


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another spammer directing their links.  doh.gif
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Anyone booked the car and get the "watch" @ Citta Mall ??
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no... i think collect when ur car is out.. smile.gif
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weird shit...why the SA asked me for 1k booking? i also puzzled
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QUOTE(maru @ Apr 1 2012, 12:54 PM)
weird shit...why the SA asked me for 1k booking? i also puzzled
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Me too. U booked from which branch?


Added on April 1, 2012, 1:42 pmDespite so many negative feedback on pricing in forum, when asked SA how many has canceled the order, the answer is none. This give SA confident the car sale will be good and don't willing to give any discount.

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QUOTE(ahsong7 @ Apr 1 2012, 01:17 PM)
Me too. U booked from which branch?


Added on April 1, 2012, 1:42 pmDespite so many negative feedback on pricing in forum, when asked SA how many has canceled the order, the answer is none. This give SA confident the car sale will be good and don't willing to give any discount.
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Sales tactic, I doubt they will tell u about orders cancellation.
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QUOTE(orcinus @ Apr 1 2012, 08:14 AM)
Test drove the 1.8 yesterday.
Felt that the engine sound began to sip in at 2K+ RPM.
It was unbearable when pushed to 6K+ RPM, it gave loud whining sound.
Is the sound insulation that bad?
Anyone experienced this?
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Is it because the tyre too quiet edy so you hear the engine? biggrin.gif
My friend tested the car shared with me that the tyre insulation is better than Sonata and the engine noise insulation in normal driving is among the best in C-segment rclxms.gif
But then i haven't get to try the car and need to wait until next friday
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test drived the 1.6 today...quite disappointed no real pick up even with eco on or off....leather seat wasnt that comfy and its abit hard to turn corners coz the car is low so harder to see when turning left or right coz the side will really block your vision...

then test drive a city....damn city has more pick up power than the elantra 1.6
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QUOTE(ahsong7 @ Apr 1 2012, 01:17 PM)
Me too. U booked from which branch?


Added on April 1, 2012, 1:42 pmDespite so many negative feedback on pricing in forum, when asked SA how many has canceled the order, the answer is none. This give SA confident the car sale will be good and don't willing to give any discount.
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This forum doesn't replicate the real world out there. When I was in showroom I have heard lot of positive comment in the showroom and within the 30minutes I stayed there molesting the car, the SAs had confirmed 5 cars on the spot. Three 1.8 and 2 1.6HS rclxms.gif
But then I believe someone will definitely cancel the booking if they expect the price to be similar to Forte tongue.gif


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QUOTE(shinn911 @ Apr 1 2012, 02:34 PM)
test drived the 1.6 today...quite disappointed no real pick up even with eco on or off....leather seat wasnt that comfy and its abit hard to turn corners coz the car is low so harder to see when turning left or right coz the side will really block your vision...

then test drive a city....damn city has more pick up power than the elantra 1.6
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Then you will feel like flying when you test a Vios biggrin.gif

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Then you will feel like flying when you test a Vios biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shinn911 @ Apr 1 2012, 02:34 PM)
test drived the 1.6 today...quite disappointed no real pick up even with eco on or off....leather seat wasnt that comfy and its abit hard to turn corners coz the car is low so harder to see when turning left or right coz the side will really block your vision...

then test drive a city....damn city has more pick up power than the elantra 1.6
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I suppose is because the car is too stable till you don't feel the speed.
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 02:32 PM)
Is it because the tyre too quiet edy so you hear the engine? biggrin.gif
My friend tested the car shared with me that the tyre insulation is better than Sonata and the engine noise insulation in normal driving is among the best in C-segment rclxms.gif
But then i haven't get to try the car and need to wait until next friday
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haha, not that quiet but tyre insulation better than civic.
I feel that forte has better engine noise insulation though the handling is behind Elantra.

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haha doubt i wan a dugong or a potong.....though i can say inspira (ins-piracy) has caught my eye

but for elantra other than the design...nothing much to offer

cant say for 1.8 since i can only test it next week but can only say comfort wise......sylphy thumps it in comfort and legroom at the back
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 1 2012, 02:39 PM)
vios crown have been taken over by turbo protons mah.  biggrin.gif
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I don't think the P3 will be as powerful as Vios in city coz P3 isn't as light and cvt gearbox won't give that kind of instant power as AT. biggrin.gif
Btw both the CVT in Exora and Saga got quite some rubber band effect compared to the more matured tuning found in Japanese.
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 02:55 PM)
I don't think the P3 will be as powerful as Vios in city coz P3 isn't as light and cvt gearbox won't give that kind of instant power as AT. biggrin.gif
Btw both the CVT in Exora and Saga got quite some rubber band effect compared to the more matured tuning found in Japanese.
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alesi say drive to believe mah.. laugh.gif have to take his word for now..

bro, so how? which car you getting? 1.6HS?
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haha doubt i wan a dugong or a potong.....though i can say inspira (ins-piracy) has caught my eye

but for elantra other than the design...nothing much to offer

cant say for 1.8 since i can only test it next week but can only say comfort wise......sylphy thumps it in comfort and legroom at the back
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Every car sure have their pros and cons. Impossible to expect a car to be as stylish as Elantra, as good handling as Civic, as frugal as Altis, as spacious as Sylphy, as fully loaded as Forte all at the same time. You can only find the more balanced one. doh.gif


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alesi say drive to believe mah..  laugh.gif  have to take his word for now..

bro, so how? which car you getting? 1.6HS?
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Yeah I have confirmed 1.6HS.

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Spec comparison of all Elantra variants updated in the blog:

http://kensomuse.blogspot.com/2012/03/hyun...impossible.html

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 02:57 PM)
Every car sure have their pros and cons. Impossible to expect a car to be as stylish as Elantra, as good handling as Civic, as frugal as Altis, as spacious as Sylphy, as fully loaded as Forte all at the same time. You can only find the more balanced one. doh.gif

maybe can find which meet nearly all above, like those new german C segments. only price is the issue.. biggrin.gif
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Honestly, before I test this Hyundai Elantra, I have a very high hope on it, but after yesterday test-drive, everything seem totally opposite. When sitting inside, the head room is the most obvious bad design, I'm 6ft something, no matter how low I adjust the seat, when entering I have to becareful my head not to hit the roofline. Second, the dashboard layout is very weird, especially the center air cond vent. About performance, I only tested the 1.8 and I found the power isn't there, I can feel the sluggishness and I have to push harder to get the run faster a bit, and the NVH is bad, tires noise and engine noise is quite obvious, and the engine not as smooth as I expected. When comparing to sylphy, the riding and driving quality is like heaven and hell, totally opposite, the sylphy is so much smoother than the Elantra and quietness is also very obvious. So does this New Elantra worth the money? My answer is totally not worth, and pls don't bash me, It is just my own view and opinion.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 1 2012, 03:10 PM)
Honestly, before I test this Hyundai Elantra, I have a very high hope on it, but after yesterday test-drive, everything seem totally opposite. When sitting inside, the head room is the most obvious bad design, I'm 6ft something, no matter how low I adjust the seat, when entering I have to becareful  my head not to hit the roofline. Second, the dashboard layout is very weird, especially the center air cond vent. About performance, I only tested the 1.8 and I found the power isn't there, I can feel the sluggishness and I have to push harder to get the run faster a bit, and the NVH is bad, tires noise and engine noise is quite obvious, and the engine not as smooth as I expected. When comparing to sylphy, the riding and driving quality is like  heaven and hell, totally opposite, the sylphy is so much smoother than the Elantra and quietness is also very obvious. So does this New Elantra worth the money?  My answer is totally not worth, and pls don't bash me, It is just my own view and opinion.
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6' guy cannot fit into an Elantra lo.... I m 3" shorter than u but I m hitting the roof @ the back... Front, I can't clear wt my 1 punch size... lol...

Don't bash too much here... Owner r building up... Although I agree with most what u said... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 1 2012, 03:10 PM)
Honestly, before I test this Hyundai Elantra, I have a very high hope on it, but after yesterday test-drive, everything seem totally opposite. When sitting inside, the head room is the most obvious bad design, I'm 6ft something, no matter how low I adjust the seat, when entering I have to becareful  my head not to hit the roofline. Second, the dashboard layout is very weird, especially the center air cond vent. About performance, I only tested the 1.8 and I found the power isn't there, I can feel the sluggishness and I have to push harder to get the run faster a bit, and the NVH is bad, tires noise and engine noise is quite obvious, and the engine not as smooth as I expected. When comparing to sylphy, the riding and driving quality is like  heaven and hell, totally opposite, the sylphy is so much smoother than the Elantra and quietness is also very obvious. So does this New Elantra worth the money?  My answer is totally not worth, and pls don't bash me, It is just my own view and opinion.
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quite agree with u there......if was gonna spend 110k+ on a car get a sylphy looks like uncle but very smooth and power driving.......if wanna get something about 90k....i would go city


so now kinda have to decide between the two
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maybe can find which meet nearly all above, like those new german C segments. only price is the issue..  biggrin.gif
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Yeah tats why jetta selling so poor...
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Sales tactic, I doubt they will tell u about orders cancellation.
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Let's do a poll on how many actually bought this car, how many cancel their orders then biggrin.gif. Thinking of starting a poll in fb.

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 1 2012, 03:10 PM)
Honestly, before I test this Hyundai Elantra, I have a very high hope on it, but after yesterday test-drive, everything seem totally opposite. When sitting inside, the head room is the most obvious bad design, I'm 6ft something, no matter how low I adjust the seat, when entering I have to becareful  my head not to hit the roofline. Second, the dashboard layout is very weird, especially the center air cond vent. About performance, I only tested the 1.8 and I found the power isn't there, I can feel the sluggishness and I have to push harder to get the run faster a bit, and the NVH is bad, tires noise and engine noise is quite obvious, and the engine not as smooth as I expected. When comparing to sylphy, the riding and driving quality is like  heaven and hell, totally opposite, the sylphy is so much smoother than the Elantra and quietness is also very obvious. So does this New Elantra worth the money?  My answer is totally not worth, and pls don't bash me, It is just my own view and opinion.
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Maybe it is a matter of expectations. Sylphy is boxy so very spacious while the suspension setting is soft so the ride is smooth. These are very common things i believe. You cant expect the car to have coupe roofline while maintaining suv like headroom. Elantra do handles better so it will definitely need to sacrifice some smoothness in ride department. And people do have different need, i will not spend 120k on a car wif drum brake and without vsm. I would rather have a
little compromise in refinement rather than safety.
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Yeah tats why jetta selling so poor...
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U have to see how many ppl have that kind of money for a jetta... Next, most ppl prefer a golf...

3rd, jetta is c segment, but that price flooded with all kind of d segment...

The reasons can continue....... A lot longer...


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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 1 2012, 03:30 PM)
U have to see how many ppl have that kind of money for a jetta... Next, most ppl prefer a golf...

3rd, jetta is c segment, but that price flooded with all kind of d segment... 

The reasons can continue....... A lot longer...
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Golf also c seg but seems like more popular also. And we are a sedan oriented market so it is quite a special case. Why ppl wan golf but not jetta?
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 03:33 PM)
Golf also c seg but seems like more popular also. And we are a sedan oriented market so it is quite a special case. Why ppl wan golf but not jetta?
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smile.gif. Why ppl buy mazda3 hatch back more than sedan? Why ppl buy fiesta hatch than sedan? Why mazda2 hatch back than sedan...?

List continue again......
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 1 2012, 03:30 PM)
U have to see how many ppl have that kind of money for a jetta... Next, most ppl prefer a golf...

3rd, jetta is c segment, but that price flooded with all kind of d segment... 

The reasons can continue....... A lot longer...
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you're right.

the golf competitor is only 308thp.

while jetta competitor ranges from accord to civic to 508 (1.6 turbo to 2.0 k20a to 2.4 liter engine in uncle car)

1st car in the family usually is a sedan, it has to be safe, so mostly its a jap sedan.
2nd car onwards, for wife to drive or weekend car, it can be 308 or golf, those more exciting car biggrin.gif

but...elantra is only competing with forte, so no worries. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 02:57 PM)
Every car sure have their pros and cons. Impossible to expect a car to be as stylish as Elantra, as good handling as Civic, as frugal as Altis, as spacious as Sylphy, as fully loaded as Forte all at the same time. You can only find the more balanced one. doh.gif


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I will test the Preve when it is launched but i won't buy it biggrin.gif
Yeah I have confirmed 1.6HS.
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Bro u test drive the 1.6 ady not? Not too heavy n sluggish for you?
SA told me if book now need to wait 3..4 months..how to wait la..need car asap hmmm..
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Have to wait so long?? I am letting go my old car next week already.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 1 2012, 03:36 PM)
smile.gif. Why ppl buy mazda3 hatch back more than sedan? Why ppl buy fiesta hatch than sedan? Why mazda2 hatch back than sedan...? 

List continue again......
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Coz their sedan look uglier compared to their hatch.


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QUOTE(Sunsetwoohlala @ Apr 1 2012, 03:38 PM)
Bro u test drive the 1.6 ady not? Not too heavy n sluggish for you?
SA told me if book now need to wait 3..4 months..how to wait la..need car asap hmmm..
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I am perfectly fine with forte so elantra should not be a problem. I dont see why i need so much power coz i dun like to accel tat fast. In normal driving i think those excess power reserve is a waste for me. Just like forte i will say it is adequate rather than sluggish. So far only exora cps cant meet my requirement Lolz...
i will test next week.

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Coz their sedan look uglier compared to their hatch.


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I am perfectly fine with forte so elantra should not be a problem. I dont see why i need so much power coz i dun like to accel tat fast. In normal driving i think those excess power reserve is a waste for me. Just like forte i will say it is adequate rather than sluggish. So far only exora cps cant meet my requirement Lolz...
i will test next week.
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U got the answer than....
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Finish .....seems many potential buyer running away from this car d. It would be out of stock fast if it's cheaper by 10k. LOL
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Finish .....seems many potential buyer running away from this car d. It would be out of stock fast if it's cheaper by 10k. LOL
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I would expect this car selling price is in between RM80k to RM90k, which is around or under Forte 2.0 price, but now seem like the price is well above Forte 2.0 and crossing into Altis 1.8 price range, which is very expensive and not worth the money. One forummer said won't buy a car without VSM, but does the VSM really that important? I used to see a lot big and expensive car with this kind of features involve in accident at Karak Highway, like Estima, Alpha, BMW, Mercedes, Camry, for me, drive safely and logically is the most important.
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 1 2012, 04:40 PM)
I would expect this car selling price is in between RM80k to RM90k, which is around or under Forte 2.0 price, but now seem like the price is well above Forte 2.0 and crossing into Altis 1.8 price range, which is very expensive and not worth the money. One forummer said won't buy a car without VSM, but does the VSM really that important? I used to see a lot big and expensive car with this kind of features involve in accident at Karak Highway, like Estima, Alpha, BMW, Mercedes, Camry, for me, drive safely and logically is the most important.
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I think many may have anticipated the price to be higher ..... but not as high as what they're asking now for the spec they are giving which is too far apart from Forte
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Apr 1 2012, 04:40 PM)
I would expect this car selling price is in between RM80k to RM90k, which is around or under Forte 2.0 price, but now seem like the price is well above Forte 2.0 and crossing into Altis 1.8 price range, which is very expensive and not worth the money. One forummer said won't buy a car without VSM, but does the VSM really that important? I used to see a lot big and expensive car with this kind of features involve in accident at Karak Highway, like Estima, Alpha, BMW, Mercedes, Camry, for me, drive safely and logically is the most important.
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Why do you need ABS? Drive safely and logically can prevent you from braking that hard and causing the wheels to be locked. Why do you need airbags? Driving safely and logically can prevent you from having accident and the need to deploy your airbag. Do you agree?
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 05:03 PM)
Why do you need ABS? Drive safely and logically can prevent you from braking that hard and causing the wheels to be locked. Why do you need airbags? Driving safely and logically can prevent you from having accident and the need to deploy your airbag. Do you agree?
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lol. I like your comment. You should add in. All those car involved in accident are with BRAKES. Should have get a car without BRAKES. brows.gif
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QUOTE(vong @ Apr 1 2012, 05:13 PM)
lol. I like your comment. You should add in. All those car involved in accident are with BRAKES. Should have get a car without BRAKES.  brows.gif
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That one a bit different .... no matter how safe or logical, you still need brakes to stop, no? blush.gif
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 1 2012, 05:15 PM)
That one a bit different .... no matter how safe or logical, you still need brakes to stop, no?  blush.gif
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QUOTE(vong @ Apr 1 2012, 05:13 PM)
lol. I like your comment. You should add in. All those car involved in accident are with BRAKES. Should have get a car without BRAKES.  brows.gif
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well whenever u drive along the highway, see those luxury cars speeding like no tomorrow
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Does anyone have the torque/power curve for the 1.6 Gamma engine on this car? It would definitely explain the sluggishness.. So far I only see the one for 1.8....
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Many people simply dun understand what is an accident. If an accident can be foreseen then it will never be an accident. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(thtan @ Apr 1 2012, 05:21 PM)
Does anyone have the torque/power curve for the 1.6 Gamma engine on this car? It would definitely explain the sluggishness.. So far I only see the one for 1.8....
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bye bye elantra...hello sylphy

though been a loyal customer for 2 hyundai cars .... price kinda puts me off
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Went to test drive for 1.6 today,

Pickup is as slow as my Kancil 850(M) when Econ mode is on, after rev up to 4000 RPM, it moves to higher gear quickly, even I step the pedal to the bottom already.
Engine sound is okay, not so lousy
NVH so so only, hit a pothole and heard a big noise, but suspension is acceptable to me.
Door close sound doesn't really feel solid close.
Overall it is a good car albeit performance is not good enough, only price is not competitive.

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Apr 1 2012, 05:55 PM)
Went to test drive for 1.6 today,

Pickup is as slow as my Kancil 850(M) when Econ mode is on, after rev up to 4000 RPM, it moves to higher gear quickly, even I step the pedal to the bottom already.
Engine sound is okay, not so lousy
NVH so so only, hit a pothole and heard a big noise, but suspension is acceptable to me.
Door close sound doesn't really feel solid close.
Overall it is a good car albeit performance is not good enough, only price is not competitive.
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lolzzz, previously Myvi, now Kancil. hmm.gif

Maybe date 1 day you bring your kancil over to one of the showroom then while test drive, both car drag to see if the pickup is the same. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vong @ Apr 1 2012, 06:03 PM)
lolzzz, previously Myvi, now Kancil.  hmm.gif

Maybe date 1 day you bring your kancil over to one of the showroom then while test drive, both car drag to see if the pickup is the same.  sweat.gif
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When I speed up from 20KM/h to 80KM/h, the pick up feeling was similar to my 14 years old kancil manual, except the engine noise is much much quieter. actually my Kancil manual pick up was not bad many years ago, can reach 100KM/h from 0 in 11 seconds laugh.gif

Next time I will try to turn off the econ mode and do a 0-100 speed test probably.
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Very worried to buy now the 1.6 because so many said underpower and sluggish and somemore not cheap.
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Apr 1 2012, 06:15 PM)
When I speed up from 20KM/h to 80KM/h, the pick up feeling was similar to my 14 years old kancil manual, except the engine noise is much much quieter. actually my Kancil manual pick up was not bad many years ago, can reach 100KM/h from 0 in 11 seconds  laugh.gif

Next time I will try to turn off the econ mode and do a 0-100 speed test probably.
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Wow! Kancil can accel faster than Myvi 1.3!


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Very worried to buy now the 1.6 because so many said underpower and sluggish and somemore not cheap.
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You really have to try the car yourself and feel it. Acceleration is quite subjective although the official 0-100kmh of 11.6s is not bad. Inspira 1.8 CVT 0-100 oso 11.4s yet nobody complain it is underpowered biggrin.gif

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I never can understand why people insist on comparing Kancils, Myvis, Vivas, Vios, City, my grandmother's car when they're all different segments! Do an apple to apple C segment of a similar engine output and price comparison la
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Ng hai gua... U guys say Cadillac use 96k to buy a kancil ah? Lol
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 1 2012, 06:48 PM)
I never can understand why people insist on comparing Kancils, Myvis, Vivas, Vios, City, my grandmother's car when they're all different segments! Do an apple to apple C segment of a similar engine output and price comparison la
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The biggest problem is that most people never drive a newer gen 1.6 C-seg car. In our market only Forte and Altis are C-seg with 1.6 engine and it is quite difficult to see a 1.6 Altis otr sweat.gif
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The biggest problem is that most people never drive a newer gen 1.6 C-seg car. In our market only Forte and Altis are C-seg with 1.6 engine and it is quite difficult to see a 1.6 Altis otr sweat.gif
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N the most popular b segment wt 1.5 engine out perform most 1.6 car....

Cannot deny, both 1.5 engine r really brilliant.. Compact n powerful....
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all this argument about pickup, i remembered reading in the magazine that these c segments are designed for comfort, with smooth gear transition and steady acceleration. if compare with d segments further, you will complain the car feels much heavier.

but when the car gets fully loaded, then let's see if the kancil/myvi can even move to beat those accord/camry..



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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 1 2012, 06:53 PM)
N the most popular b segment wt 1.5 engine out perform most 1.6 car.... 

Cannot deny, both 1.5 engine r really brilliant.. Compact n powerful....
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100kg gap with 100cc difference explains it sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kekura @ Apr 1 2012, 07:13 PM)
all this argument about pickup, i remembered reading in the magazine that these c segments are designed for comfort, with smooth gear transition and steady acceleration. if compare with d segments further, you will complain the car feels much heavier.

but when the car gets fully loaded, then let's see if the kancil/myvi can even move to beat those accord/camry..
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you are right.

feel fast and actually IS fast, is different.

in kancil we can feel fast.

if a test drive at 60 you also feel fast, how to take it to 160?

since u guys are all racer (lol) , i suggest you guys take the car to higher speed during test drive to give a fair comment.

at low speed, myvi/kancil/kelisa will feel faster than 2.0 civic.
real life? laugh.gif

and 0-100 means nothing.

if u wanna race on highway, ppl are talking about beyond legal limit, and its all about ingear acceleration.

but, seriously, u guys bought 1.6 car to race? ....... shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

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Ng hai gua... U guys say Cadillac use 96k to buy a kancil ah? Lol
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Haha so kesian
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any1 go for white? i heard white is not metallic colour?
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Had a chance seeing white one. Not metallic. But not bad. Thinking of getting one biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 1 2012, 07:18 PM)
you are right.

feel fast and actually IS fast, is different.

in kancil we can feel fast.

if a test drive at 60 you also feel fast, how to take it to 160?

since u guys are all racer (lol) , i suggest you guys take the car to higher speed during test drive to give a fair comment.

at low speed, myvi/kancil/kelisa will feel faster than 2.0 civic.
real life? laugh.gif

and 0-100 means nothing.

if u wanna race on highway, ppl are talking about beyond legal limit, and its all about ingear acceleration.

but, seriously, u guys bought 1.6 car to race? ....... shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Acceleration is very important... Is doesn't mean for race...

1.6 car not for race? Soon u see a lot of race car later... The cfe 1.6... Sure "pawn" a lot of car... Lol...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 1 2012, 07:32 PM)
Acceleration is very important...  Is doesn't mean for race... 

1.6 car not for race? Soon u see a lot of race car later... The cfe 1.6...  Sure "pawn" a lot of car...  Lol...
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ya, i agree biggrin.gif

but i think those saying slower than myvi is.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

in gear acceleration for myvi is slow, 0-100 on paper may look quick la.

i feel its not fair to bash 1.6 is slow. i tested 1.6 forte for a few times, its not slow at all. but from static to the car move, it wont have the rush of kelisa/myvi ( light weight)

those expecting a rush/awesome acceleration, must try 308thp tongue.gif but sorry to dissapointed, 0-100 only 9.x only. lol.

and 1.8tsi with turbo for passat only 8.5s.

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 1 2012, 07:32 PM)
Acceleration is very important...  Is doesn't mean for race... 

1.6 car not for race? Soon u see a lot of race car later... The cfe 1.6...  Sure "pawn" a lot of car...  Lol...
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Yes, Bufung is right on this. Acceleration is important, if a car is slow on acceleration, it would mean when there is a need in overtaking car it becomes dangerous.
I drove a Hyundai Getz 1.3 previously, and overtaking car is very dangerous with that car, due to the lack of acceleration. Not to say there is no acceleration at all, just the need for it when you need it.

Yes the Proton Preve will smoke a lot of car, and i can already predict a lot of Michael Scheumacher wannabe will be driving one.

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Apr 1 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yes, Bufung is right on this. Acceleration is important, if a car is slow on acceleration, it would mean when there is a need in overtaking car it becomes dangerous.
I drove a Hyundai Getz 1.3 previously, and overtaking car is very dangerous with that car, due to the lack of acceleration. Not to say there is no acceleration at all, just the need for it when you need it.
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ya, thats why they got 1.8 which is almost 2.0 power brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Apr 1 2012, 07:45 PM)
Yes, Bufung is right on this. Acceleration is important, if a car is slow on acceleration, it would mean when there is a need in overtaking car it becomes dangerous.
I drove a Hyundai Getz 1.3 previously, and overtaking car is very dangerous with that car, due to the lack of acceleration. Not to say there is no acceleration at all, just the need for it when you need it.

Yes the Proton Preve will smoke a lot of car, and i can already predict a lot of Michael Scheumacher wannabe will be driving one.
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I never try getz 1.3 before so i don't know how serious is that. but so many people driving Persona and Exora around so i can't really understand how dangerous would it be sweat.gif
Persona also arn 1.2tonnes with even less power and Exora 1.4tonne is even worse... Toyota Rush and Avanza 1.3 also wink.gif
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 1 2012, 05:32 PM)
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Did the comparison too......... that is why it feel so sluggish, I guess elantra is only meant for smooth and not rapid acceleration.

Even when compare 1.8Premium vs forte 2.0, the starting torque is too much away, and forte at @3500RPM is already near 4500RPM of elantra, so, can see the pull is not there....
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Just got back from Citta Mall!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!! I want this car!!

Tested the 1.8 Premium.

- I liked the greeting msg from the MFD.
- Sunroof is a neat feature to have.
- Nice deep center console/armrest space
- Sport pedal ala Golf GTI needed some getting used to.
- Electronic steering gets heavier the faster you go
- Electronic seats quite nice. Can adjust back/forward, height, tilt and center back support.
- Nice heavy door
- Ample space in the boot
- 6 speaker system not too bad. Although tested on radio only. Forgot to plug in my iPhone.
- Tried the ECO MODE ON/OFF thing. Apparently you are just turning the NOTIFICATION OF or OFF only. If ECO MODE ON, then the display will let you know that you are driving economically.
- Power wise.. felt like how a 1800cc car should feel. Yes engine noise can be heard but bearable.

In conclusion.. although 112k is a nice price to pay for the Elantra...there is just something that makes me want to take it over the Kia Forte or any other car within the same price range/segment.

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Mar 31 2012, 08:12 PM)
But Jetta is not really solid... I found that the interior quality of Elantra is better than Jetta biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(poyol @ Apr 1 2012, 08:10 PM)
Just got back from Citta Mall!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!! I want this car!!

Tested the 1.8 Premium.

- I liked the greeting msg from the MFD.
- Sunroof is a neat feature to have.
- Nice deep center console/armrest space
- Sport pedal ala Golf GTI needed some getting used to.
- Electronic steering gets heavier the faster you go
- Electronic seats quite nice. Can adjust back/forward, height, tilt and center back support.
- Nice heavy door
- Ample space in the boot
- 6 speaker system not too bad. Although tested on radio only. Forgot to plug in my iPhone.
- Tried the ECO MODE ON/OFF thing. Apparently you are just turning the NOTIFICATION OF or OFF only. If ECO MODE ON, then the display will let you know that you are driving economically.
- Power wise.. felt like how a  1800cc car should feel. Yes engine noise can be heard but bearable.

In conclusion.. although 112k is a nice price to pay for the Elantra...there is just something that makes me want to take it over the Kia Forte or any other car within the same price range/segment.

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Yupp no auto-lock. I remember having to push the lock button to lock the doors.
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So far C-seg only elantra ,civic and golf/jetta have organ type pedal but the latest civic has cancelled the feature coz it is more expensive to make compared to the normal pedal biggrin.gif
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elantra is a nice car but SD damage it with the pricing and accesories. With current pricing we should get everything our american counterparts are getting. Shame on u SD.

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elantra is a nice car but SD damage it with the pricing and accesories. With current pricing we should get everything our american counterparts are getting. Shame on u SD.
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So UMW and Honda Malaysia as well as TC should be proud of their offerings? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fabho @ Apr 1 2012, 09:01 PM)
elantra is a nice car but SD damage it with the pricing and accesories. With current pricing we should get everything our american counterparts are getting. Shame on u SD.
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SD still got secret weapon ma - V@lester and i30 and i40 tongue.gif brows.gif brows.gif Forget about this Outdated "Product" sweat.gif

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Went to Citta Mall to see the presentation, but didn't test drive cause don't want to wait, long queue. I really like the exterior and interior of Elantra. The thing that disappoint me the most no reverse cam for 1.6HS. The back is very high, so hard to see if reverse parking, I think.
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dumb question, how to interpret the following chat?
I see no road. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 1 2012, 05:32 PM)
Here you go:

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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Apr 1 2012, 09:15 PM)
SD still got secret weapon ma - V@lester and i30 and i40 tongue.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif Forget about this Outdated "Product"  sweat.gif
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by the time they intro those they also will be outdated tongue.gif

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Paid my booking fees! Wow, SA told me i m the 1st of his branch to test drive this afternoon. rclxms.gif

doh.gif Really such A big question mark shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif when read some1 comparing the acceleration btw kancil and elantra.

Dont try to tipu yourself lar. Only your exhaust sound bring you the ummphh. Not the car performance.

Just a little comment on the height of this car.

It is not as comfort as i tot, the front and rear headroom is not satisfy as i compare with current altis 2.0. Surprisingly the legroom is much roomie than i expected. Good one rclxm9.gif

As i observe deeply, found out the disc brake is rusty. It might due to too long expose to the weather. Even thou SA told that this car is just arrived.
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 1 2012, 09:30 PM)
Paid my booking fees! Wow, SA told me i m the 1st of his branch to test drive this afternoon.  rclxms.gif

doh.gif Really such A big question mark shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  when read some1 comparing the acceleration btw kancil and elantra.

Dont try to tipu yourself lar. Only your exhaust sound bring you the ummphh. Not the car performance.

Just a little comment on the height of this car.

It is not as comfort as i tot, the front and rear headroom is not satisfy as i compare with current altis 2.0. Surprisingly the legroom is much roomie than i expected. Good one rclxm9.gif

As i observe deeply, found out the disc brake is rusty. It might due to too long expose to the weather. Even thou SA told that this car is just arrived.
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Headroom is sacrificed by the beauty of the roofline biggrin.gif
Rusty disc brake is very common one. You may check your brake after raining or washing car no matter it is a new or old car smile.gif
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 1 2012, 09:30 PM)
Paid my booking fees! Wow, SA told me i m the 1st of his branch to test drive this afternoon.   rclxms.gif

doh.gif Really such A big question mark shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  when read some1 comparing the acceleration btw kancil and elantra.

Dont try to tipu yourself lar. Only your exhaust sound bring you the ummphh. Not the car performance.

Just a little comment on the height of this car.

It is not as comfort as i tot, the front and rear headroom is not satisfy as i compare with current altis 2.0. Surprisingly the legroom is much roomie than i expected. Good one rclxm9.gif

As i observe deeply, found out the disc brake is rusty. It might due to too long expose to the weather. Even thou SA told that this car is just arrived.
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Alot ppl comment car sluggish so I don't think they are lying to themself ... I myself feel the same too.. Maybe I should put to manual mode then every gear change should artificially make the blow off sound *pishhhhh* to make me feel the car mOre powerful 😱

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11 second for a 1.6 car is ok whattttt...u want elantra accelerate below 10 second arrrrr biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 1 2012, 09:35 PM)
Headroom is sacrificed by the beauty of the roofline biggrin.gif
Rusty disc brake is very common one. You may check your brake after raining or washing car no matter it is a new or old car smile.gif
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However, i love the Fluidic Sculpture so much, ya, have to sacrifice in order to get the design shape done, i only wry my passenger is not comfortable (my parent). You knw they will keep bashing blablabla, keep asking why!

Oh yea? den the rusty shld not be a problem. Does any1 ask for the bodykit package? My SA knw ntg about it.

This afternoon, i think i explain the features more than my SA does.

Seriously i will try to floor the pedal kao kao again the next test drive to disappoint fellow fortian.

Cuz what i knew is our own bad perspective about this car due to the pricing issue.

If SD make it 100k for this 1.8 Nu, i t wont not hav negative issue for the pickup at all.
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No auto lock is exactly the same like Nissan Latio Sport as Latio is also using security key. No doubt you will take sometime to get use of it to lock your car yourself while driving.
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Is there any discount given by SA...?
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 1 2012, 09:47 PM)
However, i love the Fluidic Sculpture so much, ya, have to sacrifice in order to get the design shape done, i only wry my passenger is not comfortable (my parent). You knw they will keep bashing blablabla, keep asking why!

Oh yea? den the rusty shld not be a problem. Does any1 ask for the bodykit package? My SA knw ntg about it.

This afternoon, i think i explain the features more than my SA does.

Seriously i will try to floor the pedal kao kao again the next test drive to disappoint fellow fortian.

Cuz what i knew is our own bad perspective about this car due to the pricing issue.

If SD make it 100k for this 1.8 Nu, i t wont not hav negative issue for the pickup at all.
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If the 1.8 is around 100K, I will definitely book it, it will be really value for money.

Perhaps we can wait til end of the year, SD may give more discount if Elantra sales not good, just like they gave 10K discount for Avante X20

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QUOTE(heng84 @ Apr 1 2012, 09:41 PM)
Alot ppl comment car sluggish so I don't think they are lying to themself ... I myself feel the same too.. Maybe I should put to manual mode then every gear change should artificially make the blow off sound *pishhhhh* to make me feel the car mOre powerful 😱
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Comparing wt a Scooby keh? laugh.gif
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dumb question, how to interpret the following chat? 
I see no road. rclxub.gif
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can see only. but makes no sense just looking at it.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Apr 1 2012, 09:15 PM)
SD still got secret weapon ma - V@lester and i30 and i40 tongue.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif Forget about this Outdated "Product"  sweat.gif
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different class doh.gif , extra 20-30k more, different types of buyers whistling.gif
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anyone check weather the boot have button to open??
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QUOTE(kangwoo @ Apr 2 2012, 12:53 AM)
different class doh.gif , extra 20-30k more, different types of buyers whistling.gif
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have fun waiting, SD pulling another 'Elantra' on us. went to showroom today and asked about veloster and guess what, estimated launch August and price around 130k. owh yeah. from q1 to q3. SD should be called Slow Darby.

anyway, gf's bro confirmed everything and finally when we asked if delivery's possible and the faggot said, actually you need to wait for 2nd batch, first batch are for those who have 'booked' way before. we expected that though. dint had a chance to test drive but i did 'molest' the car and built quality aint that bad, even compared to the civic but somehow, lost the oomph that i had for the car. now the interior looks, plain.

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:59 PM)
have fun waiting, SD pulling another 'Elantra' on us. went to showroom today and asked about veloster and guess what, estimated launch August and price around 130k. owh yeah. from q1 to q3. SD should be called Slow Darby.

anyway, gf's bro confirmed everything and finally when we asked if delivery's possible and the faggot said, actually you need to wait for 2nd batch, first batch are for those who have 'booked' way before. we expected that though. dint had a chance to test drive but i did 'molest' the car and built quality aint that bad, even compared to the civic but somehow, lost the oomph that i had for the car. now the interior looks, plain.
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Launch August is ok if they bring in turbo version.

Btw, where did u place yr booking ? SG.Pinang ?

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:59 PM)
have fun waiting, SD pulling another 'Elantra' on us. went to showroom today and asked about veloster and guess what, estimated launch August and price around 130k. owh yeah. from q1 to q3. SD should be called Slow Darby.

faggot said, actually you need to wait for 2nd batch, first batch are for those who have 'booked' way before
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130k...out of radar unsure.gif

faggot hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tony @ Apr 2 2012, 01:04 AM)
Launch August is ok if they bring in turbo version.

Btw, where did u place yr booking ? SG.Pinang ?
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yeah, the SA kinda noob. know nothing. he din't want to give discount cause he said they did not get the 'margin or whatever' yet. cant remember. my gf's bro said discount 1000, shut up and take my money tongue.gif . he agreed but he said it will not be certain (discount) until the launch?? dint it launch already? i dint care much la, he did the talking i was there molesting the car. i was only there to enquire about veloster.
no turbo, only the same "underpowered" 1.6 which alot of review said that too in veloster forums. but apparently 0-100 is good, under 9 secs. if 130k, i doubt it will sell. only advantage it has over CR-Z is back seats and of course, 3 doors design lol.


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130k...out of radar unsure.gif

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= the scumbag 'sa' who promised heaven and earth.

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 12:12 AM)
yeah, the SA kinda noob. know nothing. he din't want to give discount cause he said they did not get the 'margin or whatever' yet. cant remember. my bro in law said discount 1000, shut up and take my money  tongue.gif . he agreed but he said it will not be certain (discount) until the launch?? dint it launch already? i dint care much la, he did the talking i was there molesting the car.
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Same thing when i book month ago..don't know their exact commission and price etc so cannot give details on offer / discount. But he said usually few hundreds worth of tint and petrol voucher sure got.

If you visit the hyundai dealer at Burma Road. U will vormit blood, then u will know what's the meaning of know nothing.
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:59 PM)
have fun waiting, SD pulling another 'Elantra' on us. went to showroom today and asked about veloster and guess what, estimated launch August and price around 130k. owh yeah. from q1 to q3. SD should be called Slow Darby.

anyway, gf's bro confirmed everything and finally when we asked if delivery's possible and the faggot said, actually you need to wait for 2nd batch, first batch are for those who have 'booked' way before. we expected that though. dint had a chance to test drive but i did 'molest' the car and built quality aint that bad, even compared to the civic but somehow, lost the oomph that i had for the car. now the interior looks, plain.
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Now August pulak???
Last I asked was June (yes, it's a delay from initial announced Q1.

Seems that HSDM credibility has indeed down the drain.

Initially was hopeful for Veloster. But looking at all the negative review on the 1.6 Elantra power department, kinda worries me.

Maybe I should drop the plan for trying to act young and go for a proper D segment... K5? sad.gif

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QUOTE(devinz @ Apr 2 2012, 01:20 AM)
Now August pulak???
Last I asked was June (yes, it's a delay from initial announced Q1.

Seems that HSDM credibility has indeed down the drain.

Initially was hopeful for Veloster. But looking at all the negative review on the 1.6 Elantra power department, kinda worries me.

Maybe I should drop the plan for trying to act young and go for a proper D segment... K5? sad.gif
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hopefully i can have my verdict after test drive(probably nxt week)
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 12:12 AM)
yeah, the SA kinda noob. know nothing. he din't want to give discount cause he said they did not get the 'margin or whatever' yet. cant remember. my gf's bro said discount 1000, shut up and take my money  tongue.gif . he agreed but he said it will not be certain (discount) until the launch?? dint it launch already? i dint care much la, he did the talking i was there molesting the car. i was only there to enquire about veloster.
no turbo, only the same "underpowered" 1.6 which alot of review said that too in veloster forums. but apparently 0-100 is good, under 9 secs. if 130k, i doubt it will sell. only advantage it has over CR-Z is back seats and of course, 3 doors design lol.


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= the scumbag 'sa' who promised heaven and earth.
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Launch August is ok if they bring in turbo version.

Btw, where did u place yr booking ? SG.Pinang ?
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If turbo coming i think you will need to pay around 160k for one. biggrin.gif

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Is crz selling well?
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 08:22 AM)
No official figures yet but quite a number on the streets. Even during the initial launch, bookings were more than expected
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Juz kinda wondering how many people is willing to spend that kind of money for such a small car.biggrin.gif
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Juz kinda wondering how many people is willing to spend that kind of money for such a small car.biggrin.gif
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ppl with extra cash and they dont know just what to do with it..... eg: "damn... maybe i'll just get a nice 2-door sport hybrid to drive around town just for show"

cars like this are just not practical for the common use.
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 08:20 AM)
Is crz selling well?


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If turbo coming i think you will need to pay around 160k for one. biggrin.gif
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first batch all sold out i heard.

i would say its a great car as the family second car biggrin.gif just like how golf gti/tsi fits in. so i'm not surprised when i saw women are driving golf gti. and of cos, its a weekend ride for the husband and a daily ride for the wife biggrin.gif and the price of CRZ is just great biggrin.gif .


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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 08:20 AM)
If turbo coming i think you will need to pay around 160k for one. biggrin.gif
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160K for 201 horsepower and 264 Nm of torque, still consider cheap loh.

Other brand name with those numbers will sell it around 200K already.

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 2 2012, 08:59 AM)
first batch all sold out i heard.

i would say its a great car as the family second car biggrin.gif just like how golf gti/tsi fits in. so i'm not surprised when i saw women are driving golf gti. and of cos, its a weekend ride for the husband and a daily ride for the wife biggrin.gif and the price of CRZ is just great biggrin.gif .
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How big is the batch? Golf is decent enough to be a family car already. biggrin.gif
Thanks to our hybrid scheme so at least honda can sell their CRZ here rather than struggling in North America and Europe cool.gif


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QUOTE(tony @ Apr 2 2012, 09:01 AM)
160K for 201 horsepower and 264 Nm of torque, still consider cheap loh.

Other brand name with those numbers will sell it around 200K already.
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Later many people will start bashing and saying not worth it coz Mazda3 MPS only 175k with 256hp, go for japanese better sweat.gif

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 09:11 AM)
How big is the batch? Golf is decent enough to be a family car already.  biggrin.gif
Thanks to our hybrid scheme so at least honda can sell their CRZ here rather than struggling in North America and Europe cool.gif

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ya, first batch 120 units.

cos the car dont have much power compare to what they have in NA and Europe. the power can be easily matched by 1.2tsi or any diesel coupe. but in msia the pricing is just right for a flashy ride biggrin.gif like a metropolitan flashy coupe
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 10:11 AM)
How big is the batch? Golf is decent enough to be a family car already.  biggrin.gif
Thanks to our hybrid scheme so at least honda can sell their CRZ here rather than struggling in North America and Europe cool.gif


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Later many people will start bashing and saying not worth it coz Mazda3 MPS only 175k with 256hp, go for japanese better sweat.gif
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the reason why it is struggling in america is because, they thirst for raw power, and CR-z lacks that rclxms.gif they expect it to be a 911 carrera hybrid.


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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 2 2012, 10:17 AM)
ya, first batch 120 units.

cos the car dont have much power compare to what they have in NA and Europe. the power can be easily matched by 1.2tsi or any diesel coupe. but in msia the pricing is just right for a flashy ride biggrin.gif like  a metropolitan flashy coupe
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just saw another one in silver on my way to office. apparently waiting time for CR-z is at least 2 months. the wait could be caused by fully import as well. i wonder whats gonna happen when government removes the subsidies for hybrids. maybe by that time we have our Preve Hybird.


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QUOTE(mojoman @ Apr 2 2012, 09:41 AM)
ppl with extra cash and they dont know just what to do with it..... eg: "damn... maybe i'll just get a nice 2-door sport hybrid to drive around town just for show"

cars like this are just not practical for the common use.
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practical is also subjective, lol. to me it is 'practical' hahaha.

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 2 2012, 09:17 AM)
ya, first batch 120 units.

cos the car dont have much power compare to what they have in NA and Europe. the power can be easily matched by 1.2tsi or any diesel coupe. but in msia the pricing is just right for a flashy ride biggrin.gif like  a metropolitan flashy coupe
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120 units not bad at all considering the position of the car. The sales should be even better when CVT coming. biggrin.gif
Strict 2 seater always have limited sales. Many people still need that kind of practicality and that's why veloster is selling so much better than CRZ in North America although Veloster only got 1.6GDi. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 09:19 AM)
the reason why it is struggling in america is because, they thirst for raw power, and CR-z lacks that  rclxms.gif  they expect it to be a 911 carrera hybrid.


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just saw another one in silver on my way to office. apparently waiting time for CR-z is at least 2 months. the wait could be caused by fully import as well. i wonder whats gonna happen when government removes the subsidies for hybrids. maybe by that time we have our Preve Hybird.


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practical is also subjective, lol. to me it is 'practical' hahaha.
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How come Veloster selling so much better than CRZ when their performance are so similar?

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 10:24 AM)
120 units not bad at all considering the position of the car. The sales should be even better when CVT coming. biggrin.gif
Strict 2 seater always have limited sales. Many people still need that kind of practicality and that's why veloster is selling so much better than CRZ in North America although Veloster only got 1.6GDi. biggrin.gif
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apparently most of the owners in malaysia are under 30, so i think youngsters dont care much bout rear seats as passenger one is enough, IYKWIM. brows.gif ive joined them in their FB group trying to korek infos brows.gif

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 09:11 AM)
How big is the batch? Golf is decent enough to be a family car already.  biggrin.gif
Thanks to our hybrid scheme so at least honda can sell their CRZ here rather than struggling in North America and Europe cool.gif


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Later many people will start bashing and saying not worth it coz Mazda3 MPS only 175k with 256hp, go for japanese better sweat.gif
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Slap the H logo on Juara, suddenly Juara looks so good and sales will instantly increase. That's the power of Honda in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(tony @ Apr 2 2012, 10:27 AM)
Slap the H logo on Juara, suddenly Juara looks so good and sales will instantly increase. That's the power of Honda in Malaysia.
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dude, i dont see FREED selling well. and to me its a more good looking brother from the same mother.


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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 10:24 AM)
120 units not bad at all considering the position of the car. The sales should be even better when CVT coming. biggrin.gif
Strict 2 seater always have limited sales. Many people still need that kind of practicality and that's why veloster is selling so much better than CRZ in North America although Veloster only got 1.6GDi. biggrin.gif


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How come Veloster selling so much better than CRZ when their performance are so similar?
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rear seats one of the points as well but i snooped in veloster forum and alot regretted because the lack of power. CR-z has a better acceleration but race from 0-100 crz won by just a fraction of seconds. i was kinda inclined to try out veloster but i guess with that price tag and hyundai brand, i don't have the balls to try it out yet.

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 09:28 AM)
dude, i dont see FREED selling well. and to me its a more good looking brother from the same mother.


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rear seats one of the points as well but i snooped in veloster forum and alot regretted because the lack of power. CR-z has a better acceleration but race from 0-100 crz won by just a fraction of seconds. i was kinda inclined to try out veloster but i guess with that price tag and hyundai brand, i don't have the balls to try it out yet.
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Those people never test the car before buying? ohmy.gif
But the sales figure is quite a distant between the two. CRZ less than 500 a month, Veloster more than 3000 a month in US even before turbo engine coming rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 10:33 AM)
Those people never test the car before buying? ohmy.gif
But the sales figure is quite a distant between the two. CRZ less than 500 a month, Veloster more than 3000 a month in US even before turbo engine coming rclxms.gif
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different market i guess. they like trucks over there while over here trucks are considered rare compared to others. overall, it won probably because of the rear seat. well, they were planning on a better performance crz too, but no idea if its still going on. another thing is, it doesn't handle quite well according to the forum and reviews.

lol i have no idea but most probably they did test drive but thats what they say in forums icon_rolleyes.gif i guess what they are saying is, when it needs to be 'pushed' then perhaps it doesnt produce the power they expect.

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 09:39 AM)
different market i guess. they like trucks over there while over here trucks are considered rare compared to others. overall, it won probably because of the rear seat. well, they were planning on a better performance crz too, but no idea if its still going on. another thing is, it doesn't handle quite well according to the forum and reviews.

lol i have no idea but most probably they did test drive but thats what they say in forums  icon_rolleyes.gif i guess what they are saying is, when it needs to be 'pushed' then perhaps it doesnt produce the power they expect.
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Maybe those people are having wrong expectation with the Veloster. Veloster is about the uniqueness and MPG in US. The car is more economical than the CRZ on highway which is quite a big headline bcoz a conventional engine outperform a hybrid in highway mileage biggrin.gif
People looking for better handling and performance should wait for the Turbo. But then again, people in forum only represents a small group of buyer in the whole market. Just like here and FB many people complaining but out there quite many people buying Elantra also. My friend booked the car yesterday and was told she need to wait for second batch. tongue.gif
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Veloster 130k who buying? Might as well buy golf or k5...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 09:49 AM)
Veloster 130k who buying?  Might as well buy golf or k5...
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depends lor, younger buyer will go for Veloster, matured buyer will go for K5
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 10:49 AM)
Veloster 130k who buying?  Might as well buy golf or k5...
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the SA told me, normally this kind of 'SPORTS CAR' won't be so cheap like cr-z because they get tax exemption. lol i asked him 1.6 is sports car ar? myvi turbo also can tabao lol. 130k, i buy CR-z use 20k put in super charger. notworthy.gif i told him isnt it supposed to be between elantra as 1.8 elantra is 112 only. he was like, no la. different car. veloster more fast, sports car. doh.gif actually i get this alot from Honda salesman too, they keep saying crz is a sports car.

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Elantra will be launched in Taiwan on 9th April, pricing more expensive than Altis 1.8, same price as Altis 2.0 sweat.gif
Elantra std NTD700k, Elantra top NTD750k
Altis 1.8E NTD619k, Altis 2.0Z NTD749k
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 09:58 AM)
the SA told me, normally this kind of 'SPORTS CAR' won't be so cheap like cr-z because they get tax exemption. lol i asked him 1.6 is sports car ar? myvi turbo also can tabao lol. 130k, i buy CR-z use 20k put in super charger.  notworthy.gif i told him isnt it supposed to be between elantra as 1.8 elantra is 112 only. he was like, no la. different car. veloster more fast, sports car. doh.gif actually i get this alot from Honda salesman too, they keep saying crz is a sports car.
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People have different definition. Sports car may not be a performance car so it may not be fast. tongue.gif

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Do u guys notice/feel the center aircond blower position are pretty bad? It going to blow ur hand most of the time... =.="
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 10:17 AM)
Do u guys notice/feel the center aircond blower position are pretty bad? It going to blow ur hand most of the time... =.="
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So far Sylphy and Forte make me feel that coz their center air vent is quite far apart with each other so nearer to my hand on steering. But Civic is the most obvious one coz the air vent is right behind the steering. sweat.gif
Elantra wise although it is pretty low but it is nearer with each other so not a problem for me. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 10:17 AM)
Do u guys notice/feel the center aircond blower position are pretty bad? It going to blow ur hand most of the time... =.="
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wasn't an issue for me during my test drive...
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Good morning guys,

I test drove both 1.6HS & 1.8 last saturday, for some reason i have lost my passion towards this car. I think because waited too long and too many delay and dissapoinment.

My SA said i will get the car by end of April or beginning of May. But too bad no one can confirm if dark blue is available for 1st batch.

Still cant decide between K5 & Elantra, damn i think i really like Elantra despite everything, kene poison too deep...
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 11:33 AM)
Good morning guys,

I test drove both 1.6HS & 1.8 last saturday, for some reason i have lost my passion towards this car. I think because waited too long and too many delay and dissapoinment.

My SA said i will get the car by end of April or beginning of May. But too bad no one can confirm if dark blue is available for 1st batch.

Still cant decide between K5 & Elantra, damn i think i really like Elantra despite everything, kene poison too deep...
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 11:33 AM)
Good morning guys,

I test drove both 1.6HS & 1.8 last saturday, for some reason i have lost my passion towards this car. I think because waited too long and too many delay and dissapoinment.

My SA said i will get the car by end of April or beginning of May. But too bad no one can confirm if dark blue is available for 1st batch.

Still cant decide between K5 & Elantra, damn i think i really like Elantra despite everything, kene poison too deep...
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If you can afford K5 then why don't you go for it? smile.gif
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Yesterday went to Kia road show in one U and sat in Forte 2.0, no doubt this car is the best choice in terms of price vs spec but i have to admit that the design already old... Some more K3 will out next year...

Btw check this out:
http://star-motoring.com/News/2012/US-to-p...re-reports.aspx


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If you can afford K5 then why don't you go for it? smile.gif
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Best is to buy both elantra & k5... biggrin.gif in my dream... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(326_3919 @ Apr 1 2012, 05:26 PM)
any1 go for white? i heard white is not metallic colour?
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i might be. its not metallic but i think the white gives the car a better illusion in terms of looking bigger.
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anyone check weather the boot have button to open??
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There is a button behind the boot to open, it has proximity sensor and can only be unlocked with a key nearby.

The keyless remote has a boot unlock button as well.
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sonata down optima up lols. camry hardcore ups. vios ups. farte downzz.

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 10:17 AM)
Do u guys notice/feel the center aircond blower position are pretty bad? It going to blow ur hand most of the time... =.="
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However the bottom blower very good. Can blow behind ppl leg's.
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sonata down optima up lols. camry hardcore ups. vios ups. farte downzz.
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So many potatoes on the road..


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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 1 2012, 07:18 PM)
at low speed, myvi/kancil/kelisa will feel faster than 2.0 civic.
real life? laugh.gif

and 0-100 means nothing.

if u wanna race on highway, ppl are talking about beyond legal limit, and its all about ingear acceleration.

but, seriously, u guys bought 1.6 car to race? ....... shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Actually don't need 1.6 you can see people drive their 1.3 wira n race like shit already.. same goes to myvi lol.. hahahaa tongue.gif just sharing my experience no offense

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Kudos to SD for the excellent car launching event. I particularly want to thank the Glenmarie Sales Specialist lady who assisted me and my wife to test drive both 1.6 and 1.8.

I had many chats with her to further understand about this whole event and ordeal regarding this car. She too is aware of all the negative reception towards the car. In fact many of the questions i asked her cannot be confirmed due to so many uncertainties even when the car is launched! Such as delivery dates - 2 to 3 months even for the 1st batch!! She even shared with me that she is aware that the main concern is the pricing. And according to her experience with Hyundai, if the reception is poor usually the "management" may do something about it. But I did not pursue on that enquiry.

Regarding the presentation of the car during the walkaround, what baffles me is the selective highlights of the features and award achievements of the car. The ones which was left out was of course the 6 airbags.

On the test drive, I was able to test both the 1.6 and 1.8, 2 rounds of course to allow my wife to test drive it as well. During my run, I got my wife to sit at the back to have a feel of the rear seats. Immediately she complained that the space is small, feels claustrophobic. I believe its the headroom. For those of you who had the chance to sit at the rear seats, im sure you will notice the extremely low space underneath the front seats. Usually this space allows the feet to slide under. But my shoes was already touching the base of the seat. And its pressing to my shoe.

We tested the 1.6 first. The first impression was the steering was a bit heavy to my liking. Rear view was quite limited. Feels like the back of a Gen2. As we enter into the main roads, i floored the car. To my surprise the pickup was sluggish. I still prefer the Altis responsiveness of the pedal. In fact in an Altis, if you floor the pedal too much, the car's pickup is so strong that you get push back to the seat. I dont get this feeling in the Elantra.

My wife immediately commented that the engine sound rough as i floored the car. She was sitting at the back.

As I manoeuvre around the other cars, it doesnt feel that responsive. It feels quite boring actually. EPAS?

On the 1.8, to be honest, it didnt felt that much difference. Pickup feels almost the same as the 1.6, sluggish. My wife agrees as well.

As I walked away from the car, the feeling was disappointment. And the only thing in my head was was it worth 112k for this car?

Immediately after the Hyundai event, we drove straight to 1U to try to catch the Forte test drive. You can imagine the whole world of difference in event organising. We waited quite a bit to have our test drive. There was just to many ppl to attend to.

We managed to test drive the Forte 1.6 and the Koup 2.0. Unfortunately there was no Forte 2.0 to test with, but the Koup shares the same engine spec.

We tested the Forte 1.6 first. I have to admit that the Elntra has got a better interior. Both have the similar positioning of the AC outlets. I prefer the electric-chromatic rear mirror in the Forte simply because it makes sense. The space in the interior feels roomy, headroom was great. The car sounded very quiet and comfortable. Rear seats comfortable, great headroom space. As I floor the pedal, pickup was great and the steering was responsive! The whole ride was very fun to be honest. As the roads around 1U is pretty bad, but the car was very comfortable and soft. At high revs, the engine sounded very smooth. Not as harsh as the Elantra. Maybe it takes some breaking in for the Elantra engine?

As we tested the Koup 2.0, the SA suggested that he brings along another colleague to fill the back seats, so that 4 ppl to be in the car. As I press the car, immediately my wife commented the car was powerful! I almost forgot that we have 4 ppl in the car as i was more excited driving and manoeuvring the car around the corners. It was a very fun ride especially with the peddle shifter.

As we walk away from the Fortes, the feeling was great. And with the price tag of slightly below 100k for the 2.0, it does play a big role in liking this car.

The SA even manage to throw in some goodies for the car - free full body kit for all colors, 3 to 4 days delivery upon maybe 1 week of loan approval, 1.5 ~ 2K of further discount. Its definitely a more attractive deal!




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So many potatoes on the road..


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Actually don't need 1.6 you can see people drive their 1.3 wira n race like shit already.. same goes to myvi lol.. hahahaa  tongue.gif just sharing my experience no offense
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QUOTE(J_pandapuppet @ Apr 2 2012, 01:05 PM)
So many potatoes on the road..


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Actually don't need 1.6 you can see people drive their 1.3 wira n race like shit already.. same goes to myvi lol.. hahahaa  tongue.gif just sharing my experience no offense
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I guess there is 1 questions a lot of us ask and it definitely answered... by think easily more than 10 answer...

1.6 -- lack of acceleration power... <-- conclusive...


and to me.. the car tune to save fuel is like.. .. hmm.. .. ?.. the Altis not save fuel? the Syphy not save fuel?


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if you bought myvi,kancil or even vios to race, i feel sad for your daddy.
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 11:43 AM)
Yesterday went to Kia road show in one U and sat in Forte 2.0, no doubt this car is the best choice in terms of price vs spec but i have to admit that the design already old... Some more K3 will out next year...

Btw check this out:
http://star-motoring.com/News/2012/US-to-p...re-reports.aspx


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Best is to buy both elantra & k5...  biggrin.gif  in my dream... tongue.gif
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Personally, I really really like the Elantra design. Its such a sexy and beautiful car to look at.
In fact, I like the look of the Sonata and also the Tucson. All having the fluidic element in it.

But to be honest, after a while it gets boring. Now I dont make 2nd look at the Sonatas and Tucson.
The latest looks now are the KIA's K5, Sportage, Koup. In fact, the Forte' look is more lasting to my opinion.

Even my wife says so. She suggested that the Civic will have a longer lasting look than the Elantra. No doubt that the Elantra looks awesome now.
But its the evergreen look that is of better purchase.

my 2 cents

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Went for test drive yesterday. Both 1.6 & 1.8 too.

Stil the price come into my mind 1st place whether the car worth it or not with the features.

U know what, Lame Darby oredy came out a memo saying the they will review the price again, not lower but higher! Claiming that IF the response is good on these few days. I read the official memo given by SA.

So what u all guys think? If this is so true, Lame Darby is really really a greedy company that don't really care about the market needs right now, value for money!
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Personally, I really really like the Elantra design. Its such a sexy and beautiful car to look at.
In fact, I like the look of the Sonata and also the Tucson. All having the fluidic element in it.

But to be honest, after a while it gets boring. Now I dont make 2nd look at the Sonatas and Tucson.
The latest looks now are the KIA's K5, Sportage, Koup. In fact, the Forte' look is more lasting to my opinion.

Even my wife says so. She suggested that the Civic will have a longer lasting look than the Elantra. No doubt that the Elantra looks awesome now.
But its the evergreen look that is of better purchase.

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u r right.. the modern design after a while.. u will feel.... ... ..

The Civic after 5 years now still .. wow... that is why the latest gen ppl complaining.. in fact.. if there is no current gen Civic.. the latest Gen definitely won't get so much negative comments..


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QUOTE(ivn79 @ Apr 2 2012, 12:31 PM)
Went for test drive yesterday. Both 1.6 & 1.8 too.

Stil the price come into my mind 1st place whether the car worth it or not with the features.

U know what, Lame Darby oredy came out a memo saying the they will review the price again, not lower but higher! Claiming that IF the response is good on these few days. I read the official memo given by SA.

So what u all guys think? If this is so true, Lame Darby is really really a greedy company that don't really care about the market needs right now, value for money!
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and u have to understand 1 more thing... this Darby having soo many other brands....

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QUOTE(ivn79 @ Apr 2 2012, 01:31 PM)
Went for test drive yesterday. Both 1.6 & 1.8 too.

Stil the price come into my mind 1st place whether the car worth it or not with the features.

U know what, Lame Darby oredy came out a memo saying the they will review the price again, not lower but higher! Claiming that IF the response is good on these few days. I read the official memo given by SA.

So what u all guys think? If this is so true, Lame Darby is really really a greedy company that don't really care about the market needs right now, value for money!
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to me it could be true as well, as the biggest portion of the buyers are out there, not in the forums but by increasing the price, it would be a terrible mistake. look at sonata, the sales are dropping. this fluidic trend doesnt last long. at the end of the day, business is business. would you increase the price for rice during war or would you sell it cheaper to the beggars?

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I guess there is 1 questions a lot of us ask and it definitely answered... by think easily more than 10 answer...

1.6 --  lack of acceleration power...  <-- conclusive...
and to me..  the car tune to save fuel is like..  .. hmm.. ..  ?..  the Altis not save fuel?  the Syphy not save fuel?


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seems like the 1.8 doesnt live up to its performance figure.....or is the car still new?
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seems like the 1.8 doesnt live up to its performance figure.....or is the car still new?
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not yet put in a K&N, Remap and BoT I think...  nod.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif
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Kudos to SD for the excellent car launching event. I particularly want to thank the Glenmarie Sales Specialist lady who assisted me and my wife to test drive both 1.6 and 1.8.

I had many chats with her to further understand about this whole event and ordeal regarding this car. She too is aware of all the negative reception towards the car. In fact many of the questions i asked her cannot be confirmed due to so many uncertainties even when the car is launched! Such as delivery dates - 2 to 3 months even for the 1st batch!! She even shared with me that she is aware that the main concern is the pricing. And according to her experience with Hyundai, if the reception is poor usually the "management" may do something about it. But I did not pursue on that enquiry.

Regarding the presentation of the car during the walkaround, what baffles me is the selective highlights of the features and award achievements of the car. The ones which was left out was of course the 6 airbags.

On the test drive, I was able to test both the 1.6 and 1.8, 2 rounds of course to allow my wife to test drive it as well. During my run, I got my wife to sit at the back to have a feel of the rear seats. Immediately she complained that the space is small, feels claustrophobic. I believe its the headroom. For those of you who had the chance to sit at the rear seats, im sure you will notice the extremely low space underneath the front seats. Usually this space allows the feet to slide under. But my shoes was already touching the base of the seat. And its pressing to my shoe.

We tested the 1.6 first. The first impression was the steering was a bit heavy to my liking. Rear view was quite limited. Feels like the back of a Gen2. As we enter into the main roads, i floored the car. To my surprise the pickup was sluggish. I still prefer the Altis responsiveness of the pedal. In fact in an Altis, if you floor the pedal too much, the car's pickup is so strong that you get push back to the seat. I dont get this feeling in the Elantra.

My wife immediately commented that the engine sound rough as i floored the car. She was sitting at the back.

As I manoeuvre around the other cars, it doesnt feel that responsive. It feels quite boring actually. EPAS?

On the 1.8, to be honest, it didnt felt that much difference. Pickup feels almost the same as the 1.6, sluggish. My wife agrees as well.

As I walked away from the car, the feeling was disappointment. And the only thing in my head was was it worth 112k for this car?

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Hi, glad you had fun with the Forte test-drives. I am driving a Forte 1.6SX for 9 months now... I feel power is adequate if you are not the type to vroom vroom around but definitely 2.0 would be much better if your budget allows it.

As for Elantra 1.6 which you mentioned sluggish, I am surprised to hear that. Elantra 1.6 has the same engine as Forte 1.6 but with additional valves (Dual CVVT), same gearbox, car lighter by 100kg and wheel size smaller at 16" compared to Forte 17" so theoretically Elantra's performance should be better. Maybe tuned for better fuel economy?

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QUOTE(fourteh @ Apr 2 2012, 01:36 PM)
Hi, glad you had fun with the Forte test-drives. I am driving a Forte 1.6SX for 9 months now... I feel power is adequate if you are not the type to vroom vroom around but definitely 2.0 would be much better if your budget allows it.

As for Elantra 1.6 which you mentioned sluggish, I am surprised to hear that. Elantra 1.6 has the same engine as Forte 1.6 but with additional valves (Dual CVVT), same gearbox, car lighter by 100kg and wheel size smaller at 16" compared to Forte 17" so theoretically Elantra's performance should be better. Maybe tuned for better fuel economy?
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It was my first time ever driving both cars.
Surprisingly to myself, the Forte feels better, drives better, more fun, smooth, and quiet than the Elantra.

And also i forgot to mention the list of gadgets in the Forte:
Flappy-pedals, touch screen GPS, auto fold side mirrors, bluetooth hands free- the mic is placed over the driver's head ceiling, free body kit...


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hey guys.. back from cheng beng.. got caught in a *!@#&!(*&@$! jam last night. Ipoh to KL.. 4 fucuking hours.. really kns... anyway.. will try to test out the elantra this weekend and add my comments.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kudi @ Apr 2 2012, 12:19 PM)


We tested the 1.6 first. The first impression was the steering was a bit heavy to my liking. Rear view was quite limited. Feels like the back of a Gen2. As we enter into the main roads, i floored the car. To my surprise the pickup was sluggish. I still prefer the Altis responsiveness of the pedal. In fact in an Altis, if you floor the pedal too much, the car's pickup is so strong that you get push back to the seat. I dont get this feeling in the Elantra.

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altis 1.6 arrrr???..waaaa i tot many says altis 1.6 underpower...means this elantra 1.6 much more underpower laaa shocking.gif
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QUOTE(kudi @ Apr 2 2012, 12:19 PM)
We tested the 1.6 first. The first impression was the steering was a bit heavy to my liking. Rear view was quite limited. Feels like the back of a Gen2. As we enter into the main roads, i floored the car. To my surprise the pickup was sluggish. I still prefer the Altis responsiveness of the pedal. In fact in an Altis, if you floor the pedal too much, the car's pickup is so strong that you get push back to the seat. I dont get this feeling in the Elantra.

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hmm.. which altis you had this experience with?? is it the 2.0? i havent driven the 2.0 altis before, but the only car i tested so far which i get the push back feel is the Slyphy.. can't really find it in others.. maybe its just my luck..
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QUOTE(leftist @ Apr 2 2012, 01:53 PM)
altis 1.6 arrrr???..waaaa i tot many says altis 1.6 underpower...means this elantra 1.6 much more underpower laaa shocking.gif
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Strange but somehow i felt that 1.6 power quite ok but 1.8 quite dissapointing. Maybe this weekend will go test drive to be certain...


Added on April 2, 2012, 2:00 pmBro fluidic, when can get 1st batch car ah? Heard so many rumours...
end of april lah, early may la, 1 to 2 months la, 2 to 3 months la, anything confirm or do we have to wait until nationwide launch this friday?

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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 01:58 PM)
Strange but somehow i felt that 1.6 power quite ok but 1.8 quite dissapointing. Maybe this weekend will go test drive to be certain...
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you're talking about the altis right? i havent tested the 1.6 before.. but the 1.8.. hmm.. nothing to shout about.. havent tried the 2.0 as well.. maybe i'm a bit bias because of my experience with the sylphy.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Apr 2 2012, 01:53 PM)
altis 1.6 arrrr???..waaaa i tot many says altis 1.6 underpower...means this elantra 1.6 much more underpower laaa shocking.gif
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My mistake for not being clear.
It was the Altis 1.8.
Both the Elantra 1.6 & 1.8 did not give me the same feeling as the Altis 1.8.
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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 2 2012, 02:00 PM)
you're talking about the altis right? i havent tested the 1.6 before.. but the 1.8.. hmm.. nothing to shout about.. havent tried the 2.0 as well.. maybe i'm a bit bias because of my experience with the sylphy.. tongue.gif
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Nola bro, i was talking about elantra 1.6 and 1.8
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 01:58 PM)
Strange but somehow i felt that 1.6 power quite ok but 1.8 quite dissapointing. Maybe this weekend will go test drive to be certain...


Added on April 2, 2012, 2:00 pmBro fluidic, when can get 1st batch car ah? Heard so many rumours...
end of april lah, early may la, 1 to 2 months la, 2 to 3 months la, anything confirm or do we have to wait until nationwide launch this friday?
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It is better to test drive the car at different showrooms to confirm. Sometimes you test a car but the car tuning is out then you will have a feeling of the car being lousy. Elantra cannot be the hottest car in USA for nothing. :-)
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QUOTE(fourteh @ Apr 2 2012, 02:08 PM)
It is better to test drive the car at different showrooms to confirm. Sometimes you test a car but the car tuning is out then you will have a feeling of the car being lousy. Elantra cannot be the hottest car in USA for nothing. :-)
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Ya shld test drive, ask 2.0 fortian to test n race it, find out the winner.!!! hahaha! I just dun understd why so many potential buyer keep tokin about sluggishness of this car. The price sluggish lar rite???
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I think in US, the car has the eco button, where you can turn off the eco mode and changes the settings.

Seems like our version, eco mode is always on, and off it when you accelerates. I think the engine settings is different
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Apr 2 2012, 02:10 PM)
I think in US, the car has the eco button, where you can turn off the eco mode and changes the settings.

Seems like our version, eco mode is always on, and off it when you accelerates. I think the engine settings is different
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Is it? I tot someone said the ECO is for indication of driving style ONLY?
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Apr 2 2012, 02:10 PM)
I think in US, the car has the eco button, where you can turn off the eco mode and changes the settings.

Seems like our version, eco mode is always on, and off it when you accelerates. I think the engine settings is different
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i think the version here does not have an eco mode. The eco you see in the dashboard is just an indicator to tell you whether you're driving is 'eco-friendly' or not! just like what you see in the honda insight. The same applies to the Sonata YF as well. I could be wrong. Perhaps bro fluidic can confirm?
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Perhaps this explain why in US elantra can get less than 10s from 0 to 100km??
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 02:11 PM)
Is it? I tot someone said the ECO is for indication of driving style ONLY?
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I can confirm for you guys that there is no ECO button even in the US version of the Elantra, ECO is an indication if you are driving economically or not.

You'll get the power only if you decide not to drive "ECO" style. That's what I found out during my drive in the US. Overall, I like the car very much, just that its quite light to be susceptible to crosswinds drag, but you wont face that problem here in malaysia.

This is great for FC cuz if u see the ECO light on, you can be sure you're getting at least 32-ish mpg. I manage to average 38 mpg in US city drive (which translates to about 15km/l if not mistaken ) on R91 petrol.

And it takes quite a while for it to switch out of ECO, unless you floor it the moment u start your engine.

Otherwise just switch to manual gears. no problem with power there.

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There seems to be more negative than positive feedback in this forum, I hope SD is listening.
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QUOTE(kudi @ Apr 2 2012, 02:01 PM)
My mistake for not being clear.
It was the Altis 1.8.
Both the Elantra 1.6 & 1.8 did not give me the same feeling as the Altis 1.8.
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I see..thanx for the clarification...phewwwwww biggrin.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fabho @ Apr 2 2012, 02:29 PM)
There seems to be more negative than positive feedback in this forum, I hope SD is listening.
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Given how long it took them to react to the demand for the Elantra here, I doubt they are even listening to us sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Apr 2 2012, 02:36 PM)
Given how long it took them to react to the demand for the Elantra here, I doubt they are even listening to us  sweat.gif
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After both driven the Forte and Elantra, and the whole weekend to balance both thoughts, I have given up on the Elantra after a holistic consideration.
It is not that I cant afford to pay 112K, but the whole package of the car just doesnt justify the amount. To simply pay more just for the design is foolish.

Unless SD decided to lower down the price of the 1.8, plus throwing in goodies like full body kit, 6 air bags for safety which is more crucial.

I am sure all the awards given to the car is due to all the full spec features. Not the spec that we are getting here.
It is not everyday that Malaysians can buy car today and sell it tomorrow.

For SD to listen to the people? Best platform may be on Facebook.

Again my 2 cents.

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can anyone confirm if the rear view mirror is ECM??
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Apr 2 2012, 02:10 PM)
I think in US, the car has the eco button, where you can turn off the eco mode and changes the settings.

Seems like our version, eco mode is always on, and off it when you accelerates. I think the engine settings is different
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In US they have Active Eco which is different from our eco driving mode
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Oh, definitely will try and get a test drive soon. But to be honest, the interior of both cars seems a little letdown compared to the pics I've seen on the net. Trim levels do play a big role... Or maybe it's the professional photographers' lighting lol...
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hi gregy, with your experience on the Civic 1.8 and Forte 2.0 i think your inputs will definitely be of good use. please test drive the car and let us know your thoughts smile.gif
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Apr 2 2012, 02:15 PM)
I can confirm for you guys that there is no ECO button even in the US version of the Elantra, ECO is an indication if you are driving economically or not.

You'll get the power only if you decide not to drive "ECO" style. That's what I found out during my drive in the US. Overall, I like the car very much, just that its quite light to be susceptible to crosswinds drag, but you wont face that problem here in malaysia.

This is great for FC cuz if u see the ECO light on, you can be sure you're getting at least 32-ish mpg. I manage to average 38 mpg in US city drive (which translates to about 15km/l if not mistaken ) on R91 petrol.

And it takes quite a while for it to switch out of ECO, unless you floor it the moment u start your engine.

Otherwise just switch to manual gears. no problem with power there.
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The Elantra you drove should be a 2011 model year so don't have Active Eco. They added the function starting from 2012 model year.
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 02:48 PM)
The Elantra you drove should be a 2011 model year so don't have Active Eco. They added the function starting from 2012 model year.
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so we are getting a 2011 car by SD.... what a rip-off
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Given how long it took them to react to the demand for the Elantra here, I doubt they are even listening to us  sweat.gif
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It they are listening to us, they won't wanna increase the price as written in memo.. mad.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 02:48 PM)
The Elantra you drove should be a 2011 model year so don't have Active Eco. They added the function starting from 2012 model year.
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Does that mean our current version also doesn't come with this?
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so we are getting a 2011 car by SD.... what a rip-off
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Applied in US only. Spec vary across regions.


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Does that mean our current version also doesn't come with this?
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It they are listening to us, they won't wanna increase the price as written in memo..  mad.gif
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Even if 10 people in lowyat bashing here and cancelling booking, outside maybe 1000 people queueing for cars now. If they only have 3000 units for this year do you think they will reduce the price when the booking is already more than 1000? biggrin.gif

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It they are listening to us, they won't wanna increase the price as written in memo..  mad.gif
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Think i will start a group in fb to get polls of number of people who disagree with elantra pricing or any idea what sort of polling would be the best.
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Think i will start a group in fb to get polls of number of people who disagree with elantra pricing or any idea what sort of polling would be the best.
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good idea.. do it now!
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 2 2012, 03:05 PM)
good idea.. do it now!
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not sure if that is gonna achieve anything.. its just wishful thinking... FB/LYN does not represent the majority of Malaysians looking at this car.

anyway.. pretty please.. for those who tested, can anyone confirm if the rear view window is ECM? the specs on the first page says that it is..
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 2 2012, 03:05 PM)
good idea.. do it now!
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Unfortunately I don't have any access to fb now. Can only do it after I have reach home brows.gif

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 2 2012, 03:07 PM)
not sure if that is gonna achieve anything.. its just wishful thinking... FB/LYN does not represent the majority of Malaysians looking at this car.

anyway.. pretty please.. for those who tested, can anyone confirm if the rear view window is ECM? the specs on the first page says that it is..
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i tested but.. i starring at the rear view mirror for 5mins. up down left right, i cant c any different with a normal rear view.. so sry. Howver will test drive again n again to finalize my final answer
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QUOTE(kudi @ Apr 2 2012, 02:43 PM)
After both driven the Forte and Elantra, and the whole weekend to balance both thoughts, I have given up on the Elantra after a holistic consideration.
It is not that I cant afford to pay 112K, but the whole package of the car just doesnt justify the amount. To simply pay more just for the design is foolish.

Unless SD decided to lower down the price of the 1.8, plus throwing in goodies like full body kit, 6 air bags for safety which is more crucial.

I am sure all the awards given to the car is due to all the full spec features. Not the spec that we are getting here.
It is not everyday that Malaysians can buy car today and sell it tomorrow.

For SD to listen to the people? Best platform may be on Facebook.

Again my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 2 2012, 03:07 PM)
not sure if that is gonna achieve anything.. its just wishful thinking... FB/LYN does not represent the majority of Malaysians looking at this car.

anyway.. pretty please.. for those who tested, can anyone confirm if the rear view window is ECM? the specs on the first page says that it is..
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No ECM. The rear view mirror got no sensor and power light on it.


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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 2 2012, 03:09 PM)
i tested but.. i starring at the rear view mirror for 5mins. up down left right, i cant c any different with a normal rear view.. so sry. Howver will test drive again n again to finalize my final answer
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ECM functions when the sensor detect light of certain brightness and dim the mirror. Can check out the one on Forte.

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I too went to test drove one. Well, only the 1.6HS. And the test drive route is so short I can't tell much. No comment on the driving experience, anything better than my aging car I'm happy. The manual mode did help to push the car if you are not satisfy with the auto. I'm not a street racer, neither I have deep pocket to swallow performance (higher segment) car. Only complain is the rear headroom a bit tight. Considering I will fetch mostly my family, they are not that tall. So I think it's alright. I have my personal reason not to get the forte. So will not argue on that.

I didn't book on the spot, as the SA can't confirm many things. Also SA promise to let me test drive again once their show room get the cars, I wanted to see the real gray/ red color before deciding. Today, when I pass by Hyundai show room in Prima Damansara, they are loading 2 unit of Elantra, one silver and one white. Both have the trim line (feature guide) stickers over the body as per the event show car. Was driving so didn't take pictures. Will see next two days have time to walk-in and see.
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 03:12 PM)
No ECM. The rear view mirror got no sensor and power light on it.


Added on April 2, 2012, 3:14 pm
ECM functions when the sensor detect light of certain brightness and dim the mirror. Can check out the one on Forte.
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so can we argue with SD what is going that the spec posted totally not equal with the real feature


Added on April 2, 2012, 3:18 pm[quote=wei,Apr 2 2012, 03:15 PM]
I too went to test drove one. Well, only the 1.6HS. And the test drive route is so short I can't tell much. No comment on the driving experience, anything better than my aging car I'm happy. The manual mode did help to push the car if you are not satisfy with the auto. I'm not a street racer, neither I have deep pocket to swallow performance (higher segment) car. Only complain is the rear headroom a bit tight. Considering I will fetch mostly my family, they are not that tall. So I think it's alright. I have my personal reason not to get the forte. So will not argue on that.

i would like to knw your argument! May i?

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so can we argue with SD what is going that the spec posted totally not equal with the real feature


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I too went to test drove one. Well, only the 1.6HS. And the test drive route is so short I can't tell much. No comment on the driving experience, anything better than my aging car I'm happy. The manual mode did help to push the car if you are not satisfy with the auto. I'm not a street racer, neither I have deep pocket to swallow performance (higher segment) car. Only complain is the rear headroom a bit tight. Considering I will fetch mostly my family, they are not that tall. So I think it's alright. I have my personal reason not to get the forte. So will not argue on that.

i would like to knw your argument! May i?
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oopss.. i think bro fluidic will need to update the spec sheet to the latest one then..

sigh... to be honest, i would have happily paid 112k for the current spec sheet stated in the 1st page.. sad to see a couple of simple features being removed.. aiyah.. dont want to think so much first.. need to test drive then only decide.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 03:54 PM)
Applied in US only. Spec vary across regions.


Added on April 2, 2012, 2:54 pm
Only US and Korea have this function... All other places don't have


Added on April 2, 2012, 2:57 pm
Even if 10 people in lowyat bashing here and cancelling booking, outside maybe 1000 people queueing for cars now. If they only have 3000 units for this year do you think they will reduce the price when the booking is already more than 1000? biggrin.gif
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the problem is with the amount of people talking and bashing here, only 2-4 are the ones who will end up or actually can afford buying it.
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oopss.. i think bro fluidic will need to update the spec sheet to the latest one then..

sigh... to be honest, i would have happily paid 112k for the current spec sheet stated in the 1st page.. sad to see a couple of simple features being removed.. aiyah.. dont want to think so much first.. need to test drive then only decide.. tongue.gif
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Most of the spec listed are correct. So far i only spotted 3 item incorrect. Power fold mirror and ECM. another one is bonus for 1.6HS which have sliding center console. rclxms.gif
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@WieBoy let me slide on that la. Forte doesn't appeal to me. And more gadget = more things to take care and repair later on. (If they can sell you a car that almost not making money, they will find other way to get it back. It's basic business.) But don't bash me on that lar. My reason is really personal leh. Hahaha...

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Say did most of you get the full brochure (the one with red elantra on cover). If many want to see, I can scan and put it up by tmrw.
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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 2 2012, 03:24 PM)
oopss.. i think bro fluidic will need to update the spec sheet to the latest one then..

sigh... to be honest, i would have happily paid 112k for the current spec sheet stated in the 1st page.. sad to see a couple of simple features being removed.. aiyah.. dont want to think so much first.. need to test drive then only decide.. tongue.gif
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When u test drive, dont think of the price....every1 affected by price, that's they cant convince themselves this is a good car.

Just go like test drive a new car. just that simple.
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QUOTE(wei @ Apr 2 2012, 04:28 PM)
@WieBoy let me slide on that la. Forte doesn't appeal to me. And more gadget = more things to take care and repair later on. (If they can sell you a car that almost not making money, they will find other way to get it back. It's basic business.) But don't bash me on that lar. My reason is really personal leh. Hahaha...

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Say did most of you get the full brochure (the one with red elantra on cover). If many want to see, I can scan and put it up by tmrw.
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K5 owners will hunt you down for that statement rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wei @ Apr 2 2012, 03:28 PM)
@WieBoy let me slide on that la. Forte doesn't appeal to me. And more gadget = more things to take care and repair later on. (If they can sell you a car that almost not making money, they will find other way to get it back. It's basic business.) But don't bash me on that lar. My reason is really personal leh. Hahaha...

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Say did most of you get the full brochure (the one with red elantra on cover). If many want to see, I can scan and put it up by tmrw.
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good luck to ur new gf rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wei @ Apr 2 2012, 03:28 PM)
@WieBoy let me slide on that la. Forte doesn't appeal to me. And more gadget = more things to take care and repair later on. (If they can sell you a car that almost not making money, they will find other way to get it back. It's basic business.) But don't bash me on that lar. My reason is really personal leh. Hahaha...

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Say did most of you get the full brochure (the one with red elantra on cover). If many want to see, I can scan and put it up by tmrw.
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I would like to see if you have it because my SA said the brochure will reach only on thursday. rclxms.gif
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Married already no worry tongue.gif

@caddilac can. I also surprise the SA say I can take it... But have to wait till tonight, left it at home.

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QUOTE(wei @ Apr 2 2012, 03:28 PM)
@WieBoy let me slide on that la. Forte doesn't appeal to me. And more gadget = more things to take care and repair later on. (If they can sell you a car that almost not making money, they will find other way to get it back. It's basic business.) But don't bash me on that lar. My reason is really personal leh. Hahaha...

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Say did most of you get the full brochure (the one with red elantra on cover). If many want to see, I can scan and put it up by tmrw.
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@wei what u said is true. Haha same goes to Elantra owner one day soon.

But did fortian encounter any serious matter on the repair side?

It looks no major blow for the moment since launch in yr 2009
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can anyone confirm if the rear view mirror is ECM??
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Nope. They took tat feature out along with the extendable sun visor. Instead they add in rain sensor wiper which I think useless to me
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Nope. They took tat feature out along with the extendable sun visor. Instead they add in rain sensor wiper which I think useless to me
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hmm.gif they are replacing useless features by taking out necessary features sweat.gif
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Another way to say it. I'm not sold for extra jingles and whistle. And I hate having broken feature even if I rarely use it. So if something broken I prefer to have it fixed. So it's a point of consideration for myself. I'm not saying other car have more problem or elantra have less problem. Like i say its my own point of view. Some more I don't think I will change another car anytime soon after this. So have to think very hard.
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I would like to see if you have it because my SA said the brochure will reach only on thursday. rclxms.gif
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Yes I have it as well. Dealers don't have it yet. My SA direct frm SD gave. Yup red elantra cover. The brochure also quoted that you can "manual fold the side mirror" smile.gif
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so we are getting a 2011 car by SD.... what a rip-off
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After 1.5year from now, new facelift will be introduced to bolehland
Price: RM 121,888.00
Additional spec compare to current 1.8 "premium"
1. 6 airbags
2. power "food" side mirror
3. Active ECO button
4. Body kit
5. Bluetooth phone answering button on sterring wheel

Anyone interested to wait???
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Just test drive Elantra 1.6 and 1.8A on saturday. Feel that 1.6 is under power compare to 1.8 model.

My demand is more to fuel effeciency.

Compare to forte which use 7.5 litre for 100 km (2.0) and 7 litre for 100 km (1.6) model...elantra give more kilometer.

For elantra (1.8), it maybe use 5.8 liter for 100 km. (I calculate for using US 40mpg) That means a lots to me since the election is near by....

Since indonesia fuel price is hike 33% last month, do you think our fuel price will not going the same way?

Think again.





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i am pretty sure they will drop the price or give a discount on this, if not this batch for sure the next batch. HSM is known for this, a little patience will go a long way
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 03:39 PM)
After 1.5year from now, new facelift will be introduced to bolehland
Price: RM 121,888.00
Additional spec compare to current 1.8 "premium"
1. 6 airbags
2. power "food" side mirror
3. Active ECO button
4. Body kit
5. Bluetooth phone answering button on sterring wheel

Anyone interested to wait???
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Excellent business idea! Always wait for FL is the best. Ok, every1 can re-claim your booking fees.
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i am pretty sure they will drop the price or give a discount on this, if not this batch for sure the next batch. HSM is known for this, a little patience will go a long way
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Sonata, Tucson, SantaFe and Starex can get discount on different batched?
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using the average mpg given.. that is just purely specs to attract attention... u know i know every1 driving style is different.. road condition is different...

so regarding about FC.. dont mention it.. cause its subjective..
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QUOTE(666devil @ Apr 2 2012, 03:35 PM)
Nope. They took tat feature out along with the extendable sun visor. Instead they add in rain sensor wiper which I think useless to me
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QUOTE(ryanliew87 @ Apr 2 2012, 03:36 PM)
hmm.gif  they are replacing useless features by taking out necessary features  sweat.gif
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yeahh.. kinda agree with you guys there.. i would happily trade the rain sensor and sunroof for more airbags and ECM sad.gif as for the side mirrors, my trusty wira 1.5gl does not have it either and i think i got used to closing it whenever i get down from the car.. so its not too biggie for me.. but the ECM would really help during night driving.. well, just some opinion from this uncle..
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QUOTE(Aaron135LC @ Apr 2 2012, 03:42 PM)
using the average mpg given.. that is just purely specs to attract attention... u know i know every1 driving style is different.. road condition is different...

so regarding about FC.. dont mention it.. cause its subjective..
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But still it does represent something. If it is useless then no point having the so called official fuel consumption. smile.gif
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QUOTE(feng yun @ Apr 2 2012, 03:39 PM)
After 1.5year from now, new facelift will be introduced to bolehland
Price: RM 121,888.00
Additional spec compare to current 1.8 "premium"
1. 6 airbags
2. power "food" side mirror
3. Active ECO button
4. Body kit
5. Bluetooth phone answering button on sterring wheel

Anyone interested to wait???
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Yes but for either i30 or K3 brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 2 2012, 03:44 PM)
yeahh.. kinda agree with you guys there.. i would happily trade the rain sensor and sunroof for more airbags and ECM sad.gif as for the side mirrors, my trusty wira 1.5gl does not have it either and i think i got used to closing it whenever i get down from the car.. so its not too biggie for me.. but the ECM would really help during night driving.. well, just some opinion from this uncle..
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I think they are trying to replicate the formula on Sonata. Give sunroof and 2 airbags only. sweat.gif
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Sonata, Tucson, SantaFe and Starex can get discount on different batched?
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According to conversation wit SA yestreday, Lame Darby not giving any discount for these models in their history, only price hike due to high demand.

Can anyone confirm this?
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QUOTE(WieBoy @ Apr 2 2012, 03:41 PM)
Excellent business idea! Always wait for FL is the best. Ok, every1 can re-claim your booking fees.
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ehehe.. if it were 118k with those specs, i will readily get it.. sienz.. well the FL might or might not come.. dunoo whether can wait for not.. my Wira going to be 10 years this November. not sure if i can get 10k or not if i wait another year.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(red_levin @ Apr 2 2012, 03:39 PM)
Just test drive Elantra 1.6 and 1.8A on saturday. Feel that 1.6 is under power compare to 1.8 model.

My demand is more to fuel effeciency.

Compare to forte which use 7.5 litre for 100 km (2.0) and 7 litre for 100 km (1.6) model...elantra give more kilometer.

For elantra (1.8), it maybe use 5.8 liter for 100 km. (I calculate for using US 40mpg) That means a lots to me since the election is near by....

Since indonesia fuel price is hike 33% last month, do you think our fuel price will not going the same way?

Think again.
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the price difference is 14K, how long do you think Elantra would take to save that amount worth of fuel?

If FC is your main concern, you should consider the Prius.

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 2 2012, 03:44 PM)
yeahh.. kinda agree with you guys there.. i would happily trade the rain sensor and sunroof for more airbags and ECM sad.gif as for the side mirrors, my trusty wira 1.5gl does not have it either and i think i got used to closing it whenever i get down from the car.. so its not too biggie for me.. but the ECM would really help during night driving.. well, just some opinion from this uncle..
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the so called "power food mirror" can be customized after sales i believe. so as ECM. Have to take SA to minum instead ask them so directly. everythng can settle.
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 03:45 PM)
But still it does represent something. If it is useless then no point having the so called official fuel consumption. smile.gif
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it is in average.. its just a point to tell u that.. this car can move this distance at this amount of fuel.. so when ppl uses this reading to compare with their daily drive.. then they start to complain.. then what..? the car is faulthy..? its just a guideline on how much this car can get.. accurate reading is depend on ur own calculation.. then that is called personal accurate reading.. and that is why i say it is subjective..

if u watch many car reviews in youtube.. most of them will say the given mpg reading and their driving reading does not = the reading stated by their official manufacturer..

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QUOTE(Aaron135LC @ Apr 2 2012, 03:48 PM)
it is in average.. its just a point to tell u that.. this car can move this distance at this amount of fuel.. so when ppl uses this reading to compare with their daily drive.. then they start to complain.. then what..? the car is faulthy..? its just a guideline on how much this car can get.. accurate reading is depend on ur own calculation.. then that is called personal accurate reading.. and that is why i say it is subjective..
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But the whole point of having official fuel consumption is not for you to compare the figure with your actual fuel consumption. It is to allow consumers to compare with other cars before making their buying decision. biggrin.gif
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According to conversation wit SA yestreday, Lame Darby not giving any discount for these models in their history, only price hike due to high demand.

Can anyone confirm this?
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none of these models are having sales pronlems during launch unlike elantra

by the way the tuscon sales have taken a dip with the new kia sportage, sa also throwing in HU units for hi spec 2.0 sonata, some offer cash discount...but just me 2 cents
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According to conversation wit SA yestreday, Lame Darby not giving any discount for these models in their history, only price hike due to high demand.

Can anyone confirm this?
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Paultan can confirm this
http://paultan.org/2010/06/21/hyundai-tucs...ross-the-range/
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the so called "power food mirror" can be customized after sales i believe. so as ECM. Have to take SA to minum instead ask them so directly. everythng can settle.
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Can anyone tell me what's ECM?
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But the whole point of having official fuel consumption is not for you to compare the figure with your actual fuel consumption. It is to allow consumers to compare with other cars before making their buying decision. biggrin.gif
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i dont get the point of trying to bring this topic into discussion.. what i wan to say is FC is subjective.. if u don gt the point.. then u go argue with other people.. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(selvenz @ Apr 2 2012, 03:51 PM)
none of these models are having sales pronlems during launch unlike elantra

by the way the tuscon sales have taken a dip with the new kia sportage, sa also throwing in HU units for hi spec 2.0 sonata, some offer cash discount...but just me 2 cents
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Some cash rebate or freebies should not have much affect as compared to the huge cash discount they did before. Even Camry was offering up to 12k rebate also.
http://www.yuen89.com/2012/03/toyota-camry...to-rm12000.html


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QUOTE(Aaron135LC @ Apr 2 2012, 03:54 PM)
i dont get the point of trying to bring this topic into discussion.. what i wan to say is FC is subjective.. if u don gt the point.. then u go argue with other people..  yawn.gif
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im not sure but i have not ever seen a negative car launch like the elantra ( their FB page, low yat , paul tan sites all have negative user comments.)
they must be seriously cracking their head to deal with this PR nightmare.
No doubt there will be the first batch buyers eager to get the 1.8H and 1.6 HS but i doubt they can maintain the sales momentum for batch 2, or once the new proton is launched followed by a host of new 2012 models coming soon

although i booked for the 1.8HS , i plan to wait till second batch , so that they can iron out all the local defects before deciding , i figure by end may or early june they would have exhausted all the 1st batch and might need some new promos for batch 2

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by the way the tuscon sales have taken a dip with the new kia sportage, sa also throwing in HU units for hi spec 2.0 sonata, some offer cash discount...but just me 2 cents
Both Tuscon and Sonata very much affected by the Sportage and Optima. Sonata sales dropped 45% in Feb while Optima sales increased by 238% compared to January. Even Teana dropped 37% in Feb. Dunno why.

114 units of Sonata sold in Feb compared to 206 units in Jan. Optima sold 152 units in Feb comapred to 45 units in Jan.

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the business in the car industry is changing..

Darby are not very into this part.. GLC.. typical...

even Toyota have to do this now a day.. discount clearing old stock...

But Honda still same stubborn also...

Naza, VW all giving HUGE discount...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 04:03 PM)
the business in the car industry is changing.. 

Darby are not very into this part..  GLC.. typical... 

even Toyota have to do this now a day.. discount clearing old stock...

But Honda still same stubborn also...

Naza, VW all giving HUGE discount...
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Just received a call from SA in penang , sales is weak at least here. Too bad

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none of these models are having sales pronlems during launch unlike elantra

by the way the tuscon sales have taken a dip with the new kia sportage, sa also throwing in HU units for hi spec 2.0 sonata, some offer cash discount...but just me 2 cents
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This is not wat I'm seeing in the prelaunch event. Ppl placing booking left n right. And according to bro fluidic already 1600 booking just for the weekend just in PJ. Imagine wat will happen when nationwide launch?
Also, another former already saw the memo to increase price if too laku, just like wat happened to Tucson.
The saddest part is, Tucson sell so long dy still no "FL power food mirror"(YES! Even Tucson top spec no power food mirror!!!). Lost hope dy if want to wait for FL only buy.
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QUOTE(666devil @ Apr 2 2012, 04:07 PM)
This is not wat I'm seeing in the prelaunch event. Ppl placing booking left n right. And according to bro fluidic already 1600 booking just for the weekend just in PJ. Imagine wat will happen when nationwide launch?
Also, another former already saw the memo to increase price if too laku, just like wat happened to Tucson.
The saddest part is, Tucson sell so long dy still no "FL power food mirror"(YES! Even Tucson top spec no power food mirror!!!). Lost hope dy if want to wait for FL only buy.
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ohh well if no discount or lower price for second batch then i guess elantra not for me!!!

SA @ glenmarie also says price putting people off, only one selling like hot cakes is 1.8HS but not sure how many will follow thru,

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ohh well if no discount or lower price for second batch then i guess elantra not for me!!!

SA @ glenmarie also says price putting people off, only one selling like hot cakes is 1.8HS but not sure how many will follow thru,
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I have decided to go Prius C instead of Elantra 1.6HS after yesterday test drive.
Just cannot justify the price to myself.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 2 2012, 04:03 PM)
Both Tuscon and Sonata very much affected by the Sportage and Optima. Sonata sales dropped 45% in Feb while Optima sales increased by 238% compared to January. Even Teana dropped 37% in Feb. Dunno why.

114 units of Sonata sold in Feb compared to 206 units in Jan. Optima sold 152 units in Feb comapred to 45 units in Jan.
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I have decided to go Prius C instead of Elantra 1.6HS after yesterday test drive.
Just cannot justify the price to myself.
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Any1 can actually tell me, what is the price will be meaningful to you! (reasonable la)
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Interesting article:

http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/elantra/...agination_top_0

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by the way 1600 bookings , loan approval rate is down across all dealers and models.
with new BNM rules a lot more difficult to qualify for loan based on 1/3 of NETT Income not Gross like the old days.

Already My SA mention got people being rejected by PBB and MBB
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Any1 can actually tell me, what is the price will be meaningful to you! (reasonable la)
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People are expecting the price to be similar with Forte. Many people still feel that Korean cars are not yet up to the standard to be a direct competitor with Japs so they need to be cheap. tongue.gif
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This one even more interesting with 8 competitors. brows.gif
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...on/viewall.html
Civic vs Corolla vs Cruze vs Elantra vs Focus vs Jetta vs Mazda3 vs Forte

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 04:14 PM)
People are expecting the price to be similar with Forte. Many people still feel that Korean cars are not yet up to the standard to be a direct competitor with Japs so they need to be cheap. tongue.gif
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im not expecting similiar to forte roughly i feel its overpriced by about 7k OTR for all models. 7k might not be much for some people but in todays economy every cent counts , i dont care how much you make.
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QUOTE(selvenz @ Apr 2 2012, 04:18 PM)
im not expecting similiar to forte roughly i feel its overpriced by about 7k OTR for all models. 7k might not be much for some people but in todays economy every cent counts , i dont care how much you make.
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If Forte can do it, why cant Hyundai?
Furthermore with so many gadgets and features.

Does it mean than Forte is making a loss and Hyundai is just getting by?
Why is Elantra priced much higher than Forte? If so what justifications?
Both are of the same segment what.

Simply saying Elantra is not of the same class as Forte is really nonsense and lame excuse.

Dont bash me yah.....
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 04:17 PM)
This one even more interesting with 8 competitors. brows.gif
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...on/viewall.html
Civic vs Corolla vs Cruze vs Elantra vs Focus vs Jetta vs Mazda3 vs Forte
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People are expecting the price to be similar with Forte. Many people still feel that Korean cars are not yet up to the standard to be a direct competitor with Japs so they need to be cheap. tongue.gif
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why shouldnt they? Korean, both kia and hyundai, undercut japan and europe carmakers in every other countries.

ofcourse people will complain, duh... Competitve pricing and warranty are korean selling points.
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QUOTE(pangning @ Apr 2 2012, 04:24 PM)
why shouldnt they? Korean, both kia and hyundai, undercut japan and europe carmakers in every other countries.

ofcourse people will complain, duh... Competitve pricing and warranty are korean selling points.
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Any1 can actually tell me, what is the price will be meaningful to you! (reasonable la)
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IMHO, Elantra 1.6HS should be priced < RM90K, a slightly above Forte 1.6SX is acceptable.
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QUOTE(selvenz @ Apr 2 2012, 04:14 PM)
by the way 1600 bookings , loan approval rate is down across all dealers and models.
with new BNM rules a lot more difficult to qualify for loan based on 1/3 of NETT Income not Gross like the old days.

Already My SA mention got people being rejected by PBB and MBB
Yes i wont get excited by bookings. Many of these 1,600 ppl might get rejected cuz many of them dont even know about the new rulings. By the way, its not just based on 1/3 income. You gotta deduct your other loans, credit card hutang, etc from that nett income and then 1/3 that amount.
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QUOTE(kudi @ Apr 2 2012, 05:23 PM)
If Forte can do it, why cant Hyundai?
Furthermore with so many gadgets and features.

Does it mean than Forte is making a loss and Hyundai is just getting by?
Why is Elantra priced much higher than Forte? If so what justifications?
Both are of the same segment what.

Simply saying Elantra is not of the same class as Forte is really nonsense and lame excuse.

Dont bash me yah.....
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i guess im the one of the few that thinks that forte should actually belong to b-segment lol (yada yada personal opinion). if you put forte and elantra side by side, it looks like a blinged chihuahua beside a 'majestic' tigress.


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IMHO, Elantra 1.6HS should be priced < RM90K, a slightly above Forte 1.6SX is acceptable.
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honda city b segment 90k. elantra c segment must <90k. rclxms.gif

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did I read Competitive pricing here somewhere in the thread? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(selvenz @ Apr 2 2012, 04:18 PM)
im not expecting similiar to forte roughly i feel its overpriced by about 7k OTR for all models. 7k might not be much for some people but in todays economy every cent counts , i dont care how much you make.
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haha, i think the SA gona eat grass to do my business~~~ so what expect is 106 ya.

May not possible but give it a try~~~
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Yes i wont get excited by bookings. Many of these 1,600 ppl might get rejected cuz many of them dont even know about the new rulings. By the way, its not just based on 1/3 income.  You gotta deduct your other loans, credit card hutang, etc from that nett income and then 1/3 that amount.
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well the new forte will be based on the current elantra MD platform "abang adik ma" so if you are patient enough but all depends on naza we might be able to get new forte 1 year after korea launch
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 05:29 PM)
did I read Competitive pricing here somewhere in the thread?  hmm.gif hmm.gif

hmm.gif hmm.gif
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competitive already mah. cheaper than civic.
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competitive already mah. cheaper than civic.
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sure la.. first 3 days 1600 sales.. u calculate by 1 months.. 30/3 x 1600 = 16,000 car/ months.. OMFG.. this gonna outsell any car here in bolehland... thumbup.gif
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1600 cars, 800 probably self goreng story
Another 400 bank probably not approve

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did I read Competitive pricing here somewhere in the thread?  hmm.gif hmm.gif

hmm.gif hmm.gif
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sarcasm? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 2 2012, 04:43 PM)
1600 cars, 800 probably self goreng story
Another 400 bank probably not approve
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left out how many?


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QUOTE(pangning @ Apr 2 2012, 04:43 PM)
sarcasm?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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I really screen through the word and lazy to find ma... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

cannot 1 meh? whistling.gif whistling.gif

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but bro fluidic busy serving customers wo whistling.gif:
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left 400/3 days.. 133 cars/day... 1 months still 4000 cars... very very impressive still.... sure very busy la... whistling.gif
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wait for half cut from korea. then we can salvage for power food mirror, ECM, bumper, DRL, headlamp etc.
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QUOTE(kekura @ Apr 2 2012, 04:51 PM)
wait for half cut from korea. then we can salvage for power food mirror, ECM, bumper, DRL, headlamp etc.
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let's face the reality... forte bloody good selling.. do u see half cut forte now? laugh.gif


in Before someone telling me Korean car have plenty of spare parts, cheap to maintain etc etc etc....
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I tell this car will outsell myvi soon, although
Some said myvi more powderful than this kimchiS
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BuFung u wanna be top poster in V4 again ah? sipe active!
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QUOTE(kudi @ Apr 2 2012, 04:23 PM)
If Forte can do it, why cant Hyundai?
Furthermore with so many gadgets and features.

Does it mean than Forte is making a loss and Hyundai is just getting by?
Why is Elantra priced much higher than Forte? If so what justifications?
Both are of the same segment what.

Simply saying Elantra is not of the same class as Forte is really nonsense and lame excuse.

Dont bash me yah.....
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You still don't understand the difference between Naza and SimeDarby until today?
Elantra is not the first model facing such problem. Look at K5, Sportage and Sorento compared to their cousins. doh.gif


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QUOTE(pangning @ Apr 2 2012, 04:24 PM)
why shouldnt they? Korean, both kia and hyundai, undercut japan and europe carmakers in every other countries.

ofcourse people will complain, duh... Competitve pricing and warranty are korean selling points.
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Competitive pricing and warranty... Elantra pricing not competitive? laugh.gif

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I'm not into hybrid , but Prius C does looks
sexy @9xk
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BuFung u wanna be top poster in V4 again ah? sipe active!
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FUCK... just notice...

I gonna shut up soon...

I talk more here... going to build enemies for myself .. coz more n more owner will be building up here...

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If elantra pricing is competitive, it will hv brisk sales. The number on the road will tell.
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You still don't understand the difference between Naza and SimeDarby until today?
Elantra is not the first model facing such problem. Look at K5, Sportage and Sorento compared to their cousins.  doh.gif


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Competitive pricing and warranty... Elantra pricing not competitive? laugh.gif
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seriously, its pretty amazing how Naza managed to pull down the prices. i mean look at the k5. its same price as the sonata 2.0 High Spec and yet the K5 specs makes it look GODLIKE!!! no doubt the sonata is CBU la..
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seriously, its pretty amazing how Naza managed to pull down the prices. i mean look at the k5. its same price as the sonata 2.0 High Spec and yet the K5 specs makes it look GODLIKE!!! no doubt the sonata is CBU la..
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That's why you can tell which company have more power. Not just Kia, even Cruze 1.8 oso can price at 99k. 308 like tat oso 118k only. Kia, Chevy and Pug all under Naza. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 05:08 PM)
That's why you can tell which company have more power. Not just Kia, even Cruze 1.8 oso can price at 99k. 308 like tat oso 118k only. Kia, Chevy and Pug all under Naza. sweat.gif
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308T is RM118-RM10k now.. brows.gif

drag side by side wt Elantra.. Elantra can.. .. .. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 04:27 PM)
i guess im the one of the few that thinks that forte should actually belong to b-segment lol (yada yada personal opinion). if you put forte and elantra side by side, it looks like a blinged chihuahua beside a 'majestic' tigress.


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honda city b segment 90k. elantra c segment must <90k.  rclxms.gif
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But forte C segment selling < 90K right?
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 05:10 PM)
308T is RM118-RM10k now..   brows.gif 

drag side by side wt Elantra..  Elantra can.. .. ..  brows.gif brows.gif
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bro. you dare try 308t?? a lot of complains wor tongue.gif heard a lot of lemons as well from there..

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bro. you dare try 308t?? a lot of complains wor tongue.gif heard a lot of lemons as well from there..
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dare not la... I dowan to ride bike to office once a while la... laugh.gif
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wow..not here 2days already hundred of post need to catch back rclxub.gif

will go to hyundai showroom near my working place for viewing and test drive...

did all the showroom also got test drive unit?or just certain?? icon_question.gif
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But forte C segment selling < 90K right?
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if you wanna put it that way then apparently Hyundai supposed to be > KIA rite? hence the higher price lo hahahaha. well, *conspiracy* NAZA can do wonders, that i admit. aiya wana compare always compare better. do you compare with stupid ppl in the class or smart ones?
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308t 40,000km service needs $800
60,000km needs $1300

Phew servicing I need take personal loan liao
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QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 2 2012, 05:18 PM)
wow..not here 2days already hundred of post need to catch back rclxub.gif

will go to hyundai showroom near my working place for viewing and test drive...

did all the showroom also got test drive unit?or just certain?? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 2 2012, 05:18 PM)
if you wanna put it that way then apparently Hyundai supposed to be > KIA rite? hence the higher price lo hahahaha. well, *conspiracy* NAZA can do wonders, that i admit. aiya wana compare always compare better. do you compare with stupid ppl in the class or smart ones?
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Well obviously Naza are the smarter ones, and SD are the stupid ones?

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hehe.. wanna go together or not?? Then we can halo halo my nick is maverick.. biggrin.gif

btw.. my surname is also Ng  rclxms.gif
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if you wanna put it that way then apparently Hyundai supposed to be > KIA rite? hence the higher price lo hahahaha. well, *conspiracy* NAZA can do wonders, that i admit. aiya wana compare always compare better. do you compare with stupid ppl in the class or smart ones?
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QUOTE(pangning @ Apr 2 2012, 05:31 PM)
u wait la .... official launch + JPJ testing + CKD plans.... Zzzzz
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Ini K3 kah?
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i dun have kapcai wor..  biggrin.gif
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know la know la.. nvm la.. I pinjam RX8 from u... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Apr 2 2012, 05:32 PM)
Small investment, no problem. RM500-800 can get one kapcai.
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i know new kapchai is very handy for keeping your prefered number plate if car not ready yet.. biggrin.gif
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answering own message spotted...  rclxub.gif
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AHAHAHHA.. i need bro maverickng to come in to prove my innocence icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 05:33 PM)
know la know la..  nvm la.. I pinjam RX8 from u...  brows.gif
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i pinjam elantra from you also lor.. brows.gif
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i pinjam elantra from you also lor..  brows.gif
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if I got.. take.. pls take.. please...
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hehe.. wanna go together or not?? Then we can halo halo my nick is maverick.. biggrin.gif

btw.. my surname is also Ng  rclxms.gif
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tongue.gif where you stay ??u test drive and booked oredi is it?? thumbup.gif




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if I got.. take.. pls take..  please...
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abothen?
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post Apr 2 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 2 2012, 05:23 PM)
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what is this? K number what? or is it K forte?
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post Apr 2 2012, 05:49 PM

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its rumored that its k5 little bro, elantra little cousin.. nothing concrete so far
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what is this? K number what? or is it K forte?
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kia k3 2013...come in bolehland already 2014 lor rclxub.gif maybe 2015 if SD do it tongue.gif

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 2 2012, 05:51 PM)
kia k3 2013...come in bolehland already 2014 lor rclxub.gif maybe 2015 if SD do it tongue.gif
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Nah, it is going to be 2017 and priced higher than your K5 Optima by 20%, if SD has it's way. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(maverickng @ Apr 2 2012, 05:51 PM)
kia k3 2013...come in bolehland already 2014 lor rclxub.gif maybe 2015 if SD do it tongue.gif
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But Forte also took more than 2 years to reach our shore. doh.gif
September 2008 launched in Korea and reach here in November 2010.

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perhaps this one reach first..? brows.gif

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perhaps this one reach first..?  brows.gif

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I think this one will never come. Exclusively for Europe. sweat.gif
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I think this one will never come. Exclusively for Europe. sweat.gif
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I think this one will never come. Exclusively for Europe. sweat.gif
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sadding.. cry.gif cry.gif icon_question.gif
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sadding..  cry.gif cry.gif  icon_question.gif
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But then if cee'd come here at 110k then people will start bashing again and say get 308 better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(caddilac @ Apr 2 2012, 06:11 PM)
But Forte also took more than 2 years to reach our shore. doh.gif
September 2008 launched in Korea and reach here in November 2010.
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Naza is definitely faster in launching new model than SD. In fact the old 4 speed Forte was launched in end 2009. The one launched in November 2010 is the 6 speed model.
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Ki@ Cee'd sharing same plafform with i30 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Apr 2 2012, 06:26 PM)
Naza is definitely faster in launching new model than SD. In fact the old 4 speed Forte was launched in end 2009. The one launched in November 2010 is the 6 speed model.
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Oh! Saw wrongly sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sochaiapk @ Apr 2 2012, 06:26 PM)
Naza is definitely faster in launching new model than SD. In fact the old 4 speed Forte was launched in end 2009. The one launched in November 2010 is the 6 speed model.
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Cadillac misleading... shakehead.gif defending belove Darby... shakehead.gif
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I love the interior of i30 and exterior of Cee'd thumbup.gif


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i series designed by ex-Bimmer designer. tongue.gif
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i series designed by ex-Bimmer designer. tongue.gif
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Miklós Kovács is a Hungarian car designer, notable for leading the design team[1] of the model Kia Cee'd in Frankfurt, Germany.[1]
He graduated in 1995 in Pforzheim, Germany as an automotive designer.[2] Before working for Kia Kovács worked for Audi
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Here's the brochure...
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the problem is with the amount of people talking and bashing here, only 2-4 are the ones who will end up or actually can afford buying it.
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ppl who claimed they just test drive then bashing elantra yet the are new member with 0 post hmm.gif
then would say they will going to other cars

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ppl who claimed they just test drive then bashing elantra yet the are new member with 0 post hmm.gif
then would say they will going to other cars

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Any buyer or test drive b4 can confirm whether elantra come with pretension seatbelt for front seat??
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QUOTE(wei @ Apr 2 2012, 07:12 PM)
Here's the brochure...
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Thanks for sharing! btw their photoshop skill real lousy! Those rims look super fake!!! doh.gif

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