Can lah but the gains not much lah.. Change engine oil lo.. cusco

20k service coming soon...
20k service cost around rm400-500 (if not including lube from SC)?

Open pod is generally just for track. And you don't want all the hot air during your normal drive...

RM 360+ for labour + gear oil change..

Oh. I could use a drink or two. Maybe. Ask the others.
Can lah but the gains not much lah.. Change engine oil lo.. cusco

Haha...no need ferarri, a lot of cars in the same range accelerate better than PE liao...

btw. I've a friend driving the 6 speed forte 1.6 ex and my neighbour driving 2.0sx.

Full spec SX definitely is much more worth it then the feature lacking ex. 1.6 quite powerful liao with the revised 6 speed gear ratio. However IMO, it still has a.....mmm...underpower feel, much better than the 4 speed version tho. Have you try 2.0, its torque is way better although price also goes up over 12K.

Just like the Civic 1.8 underpower feel, Civic should be driven in 2.0 engine just like Forte 2.0 engine. However if you have not really try out the 2.0, actually Forte 6 speed 1.6 is quite good liao.

Build quality is good with extra padding but after a year or so, noise also will start appearing...better than PE tho....before arrive my hand also got sound liao.

Then go buy helicopter la... fast and no jam can go anywhere u want. kns.. compare compare.. got money to buy whatever car u want within budget then compare nvm... always compare but never buy , ppl give answer and opinion yet again compare with another car     

Ya,i knw cant compare  wit pe..but since i wan upgrade from pe,sure i need to compare lo..but juz unknownhammie always want korek issue to shoot lo.he oledi around 2 week like tat liao..tats why cause alot keyboard warrior wit our member.hehe..maybe he salah makan ubat liao.hehe..anyway,i juz plan discuss wit u all.since its not welcome at here,so i wil stop at here..

Actually I understand Sam very well. When we have family with limited budget, we cannot just say like and straight buy coz the car going to be with us for a long time. I second Sam on comparing different vehicles even drag for long time.....coz I will be in same situation if I wanna buy a better car but only limited budget. I would go ask opinion from all, then asked again opinion abt other cars later when they become available. Think a lot and do budgeting, timing, then only buy.

For my City, I research 3 months with different models, company, etc before finally settle on it....how...when I hit the 3rd month, MMC city appear and suddenly everything, timing, budget, just hit on right spot...that car lasted me 6 years liao and will keep going.

So maybe those bachelors without household budget burden (aka kids, wife, parents, household, future keeping) with limited budget just won't really get it.

Oh. I could use a drink or two. Maybe. Ask the others.
Can lah but the gains not much lah.. Change engine oil lo.. cusco

But i feel after driving the Forte 2.0 and the Koup, the engine noise seems to be higher than PE and the tire well insulation doesnt seems to be as good as my bitumen sprayed PE too.. But Power wise definitely better in pickup..
I totally agree on this part..
No its not that.. U are going around and asking what car is the best.. But have u even thought of how much would you lose when u trade in ur PE now?
My car current trade in value is around 34-36k only.. Even though u have decided to buy a Forte or Inspira or Civic or whatever car, are u willing to sell off ur current car at a high lost now? I understand u are surveying for a car to upgrade.. But then when u are just blindly asking around and hvnt considered the total upgrade value of ur car, u are just walking into a dead trap. Like for me i wanted to upgrade to P3-21A, however my car trade in value is only 38k at max.. If i were to sell the car at that price then i would have to rugi a lot, have to top up more cash to settle the current car loan and have to fork out extra for downpayment also..

So when u have considered all this and still determined to change then u are welcome to bring back this car comparison topic. But to answer ur main question on is it worth to upgrade from my viewpoint, non of the cars above are worth the amount u are going to lose if u were to upgrade now since ur car is less than 2 years old.. if ur car is around 3years and above then it might make sense to upgrade... Do consider the fact that a Forte 1.6/inspira 1.8/2.0 is going to cost a lot of just a slight bump in improvements.
He has a family with limited budget. So whats the point of wasting money so early to get a REPLACEMENT car? Ur case is getting a 2ND car. which is ideal since u are not going to incur replacement cost.. But when a person always butthurt on how lousy his car performance is and base on that point u want to change to a more powerful car and then come back here to nag about how the Putra Evo3 turbo can still tapau ur 2.0 Inspira and how ur Inspira 2.0 can keep up with a Camry 2.4/ Accord 2.4/ Mazda6 2.5 all then whats the point of upgrading and still butt hurting?
Where my TFSI turbo kit? Belum sampai yet?

Tomorrow going to check.

Ha,ha,ha. What I don't understand is, why sam need such a good car when he only travel less than 10 kms a day? Samore already got 2 cars at home. If me.. I rather just own 1 car, only the PE, then work for the next 4-5 years or so for a better car rather than thinkin bout it now.

Good car or not ok lah.. But he wants to buy a new car to travel that 10km everytime might not sound wise.. The advantage of a 90k budget car is near to none when he travels that distance only and the occasional long distance travel to Muar. In 4-5years time most of the cars would be forced induced and it makes more sense to change to those car that time if u want better torque and pickup.

Go buy 2nd hand wira 2.0 turbodiesel.

That one very rare car bro.. Collectors item ady.. Sure not cheap..hahahaha...

Eh got la.. Go search.. I think I saw a few last time selling for 8-10k.. Ok mah.. Get one, rebuild the whole engine and throw on a td04 turbocharger.. then piggyback ECU, remap it to make 200-300HP on wheel..

Diesel engine later with TD04 and Unichip Q+ and Turbo diesel module can achieve around 350NM of torque and around 200HP easily.. haha... Cost around 12k only to boost up.. Can tapau even Evo3 Putra and some says the Proton Preve too..

preve can eat dust the wira diesel is an awesome car. Sad thing they don't make it anymore. FC damn low.

But i feel after driving the Forte 2.0 and the Koup, the engine noise seems to be higher than PE and the tire well insulation doesnt seems to be as good as my bitumen sprayed PE too.. But Power wise definitely better in pickup..
I totally agree on this part..
No its not that.. U are going around and asking what car is the best.. But have u even thought of how much would you lose when u trade in ur PE now?
My car current trade in value is around 34-36k only.. Even though u have decided to buy a Forte or Inspira or Civic or whatever car, are u willing to sell off ur current car at a high lost now? I understand u are surveying for a car to upgrade.. But then when u are just blindly asking around and hvnt considered the total upgrade value of ur car, u are just walking into a dead trap. Like for me i wanted to upgrade to P3-21A, however my car trade in value is only 38k at max.. If i were to sell the car at that price then i would have to rugi a lot, have to top up more cash to settle the current car loan and have to fork out extra for downpayment also..

So when u have considered all this and still determined to change then u are welcome to bring back this car comparison topic. But to answer ur main question on is it worth to upgrade from my viewpoint, non of the cars above are worth the amount u are going to lose if u were to upgrade now since ur car is less than 2 years old.. if ur car is around 3years and above then it might make sense to upgrade... Do consider the fact that a Forte 1.6/inspira 1.8/2.0 is going to cost a lot of just a slight bump in improvements.
He has a family with limited budget. So whats the point of wasting money so early to get a REPLACEMENT car? Ur case is getting a 2ND car. which is ideal since u are not going to incur replacement cost.. But when a person always butthurt on how lousy his car performance is and base on that point u want to change to a more powerful car and then come back here to nag about how the Putra Evo3 turbo can still tapau ur 2.0 Inspira and how ur Inspira 2.0 can keep up with a Camry 2.4/ Accord 2.4/ Mazda6 2.5 all then whats the point of upgrading and still butt hurting?
Where my TFSI turbo kit? Belum sampai yet?


my car stil owe bank around rm35k.so d trade in value is ok for me.and i oso prepare around rm20k as d/p.how to say?maybe d reason tat consider change car is i dun wan use proton again lo..last time i bought tis pe,my wife oso disagree,juz i think proton has improve a lot,so give it chance again..who knw stil same as b4..if not,i wil consider d preve.anyway,already discuss wit wife ystd..v plan to bought another new house to invest..and if got extra money wil use go to travel..

RM 360+ for labour + gear oil change..

Walau 

SC quote me RM528 for 20k service, mine going to service soon. Now 20k ++, wait until 21k++ then only go.

RM528.....

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Added on April 4, 2012, 9:16 am
Haha...I like this much...Pls share out for those who like to give a kick to cars...let them know they might get this at the end....

The bike manage to pass actually, and yet want to give that car a kick.... !

What is the parts that have to be changed? Some can be declined or change following the service booklet one.