Are you saying if not racing, normal driver would not feel the difference in 17" and 15" acceleration?

Well, I'm not racing but I did feel very big difference in 17" and 15" wheel if they are of the same weight. It affect torque. Seconds does not matter (only racer do?) but the strength of pickup makes a big difference especially in slow start/stop traffic condition.

I installed LCP breaking my own no engine mod stand coz I cannot tahan the acceleration aka slow pickup of auto PE in traffic jams. LCP makes a BIG difference in acceleration. Driving in traffic jam and pickup from toll booth does not frustrate as much anymore.

I've tried City (sorry, most of my exp in City)...15" medium light weight and 17" medium light weight rims....the slowdown on pickup for 17" is quite unbearable for me besides the very hard drive. One who enjoys driving regardless of racing or normal drive WILL notice the big difference in pickup (assuming you're not using those light weight expensive 17" rim)...

He has doubt in proton. My 405 pickup is good. 

Chill la macha.

Wan fast car have to pay more. Simple as that.

Haha...no need ferarri, a lot of cars in the same range accelerate better than PE liao...

btw. I've a friend driving the 6 speed forte 1.6 ex and my neighbour driving 2.0sx.

Full spec SX definitely is much more worth it then the feature lacking ex. 1.6 quite powerful liao with the revised 6 speed gear ratio. However IMO, it still has a.....mmm...underpower feel, much better than the 4 speed version tho. Have you try 2.0, its torque is way better although price also goes up over 12K.

Just like the Civic 1.8 underpower feel, Civic should be driven in 2.0 engine just like Forte 2.0 engine. However if you have not really try out the 2.0, actually Forte 6 speed 1.6 is quite good liao.

Build quality is good with extra padding but after a year or so, noise also will start appearing...better than PE tho....before arrive my hand also got sound liao.

Quite true also u can't compare everything with PE, samwong. U get what u paid for.
I still wan compare. Ferrari ah? Got power loh.. But rear legroom not as spacious as PE leh..

Ya,i knw cant compare  wit pe..but since i wan upgrade from pe,sure i need to compare lo..but juz unknownhammie always want korek issue to shoot lo.he oledi around 2 week like tat liao..tats why cause alot keyboard warrior wit our member.hehe..maybe he salah makan ubat liao.hehe..anyway,i juz plan discuss wit u all.since its not welcome at here,so i wil stop at here..

Ask for the investigating officer (sarjan) HP no. from the office lo. Then u have to chase him / her lo. No need go to balai. Later, sarjan not working when u go there then how? 

Case mcm mana r?..mine langgar lari..just got the lady's license plate..myb later 2day i go check/ ask for number..

The problem is the other party who crashed into him cabut without make report.

wanna go intan matang SC?
thinking wanna go dis weekend or not...
need to make appointment for intan matang SC?

ai...so fast...
i go nex saturday...19300km already... still can tahan 1 week...
hey...u all d while using semi synth?

y 38k?
owh...thought ur nex service will be using semi synth cz u state semi synth engine oil price there...
RM200 eneos? so ex? btw the eneos fully synth nice?

from stadium cheong till bowling area till IMU??? wow