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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XXX7-+♠+◄, The Rise of the PE

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post Apr 2 2012, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Apr 2 2012, 03:58 AM)
Finally Zeng you said something about CRZ... Too many people just judge by its hybrid low power nature and said it can't move...


Added on April 2, 2012, 4:02 amAnd Murni no need go till SS2 for now, right at Bandar Bukit Jalil just opened new branch.
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Bandar Bukit jalil mana? haha

CR-Z battery assist in torque the moment u accelerate.. But the Vtec in the car dont seems to create any performance increase.. Instead the car doesnt feel lively at high rev.. Its the Low revs that feels good cos of the torque.. As i said the car felt punchy and powerful, it if u test a 0-100 timing its going to be jsut slightly better than a PE.. But 115k.. Too expensive.. Only ppl with too much cash will buy it.
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Apr 2 2012, 08:02 AM)
BBJ as in those shop lots further inside and behind the area of AFC...
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BBBJ u mean?? brows.gif

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 2 2012, 08:29 AM)
sam faster change car lar, ayam butthurt always see u complain PE only.....
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rclxms.gif I 2nd that.. He forgot bout 一分钱,一分货。 Chinaman always wants the most for the peanuts they are spending on..
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 2 2012, 11:21 AM)
Orly? whistling.gif
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Added on April 2, 2012, 11:23 am
Chinaman can die man eat chu yuk. - Allan & Indi, Comedy Court Malaysia. laugh.gif
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LOL.. Comedy court.. Spa the best lah.. haha.. Who are you?



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post Apr 2 2012, 12:37 PM

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Pedobear.. Beware!!
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post Apr 2 2012, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 2 2012, 12:40 PM)
hahahaha, no worry la, not only me masturebet everyday, 60% of teens nowadays do it once a day, due to high libido and testosterone, which is good, hahahaa flex.gif
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post Apr 2 2012, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 2 2012, 05:25 PM)
From ur windshield also can see ur tweeter d la..sweat.gif


Added on April 2, 2012, 5:28 pmEh Apa jadi ngan Raimy ni? After TT that day missing till now blink.gif
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He got his revelation ady.. Now he is living his life.. U know how much of coke he drank that night right..



QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 2 2012, 05:57 PM)
Ya lo. Sekejap say duwan sekejap wan. Sekejap deactivate facebook sekejap reactivate. Now drop back into the shithole liao lo. doh.gif


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:06 pmOkay, I think some of u guys who joined TT often may have heard me describing this 1 Camry near my place who weren't travelling in a straight line. How can I put this..

Ok, the car IS going in a straight line, but the body isn't.

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Picture the lines above as being the 4 tyres of the car. Now picture them going in a straight line. Yeah, something like that. Darn mindfark, until now I can't think of a possible cause for that except that the Camry is in need of a chassis alignment. I only saw that a few times in my life, but the Camry's situation is the worst.

And then today I saw an E-class with the same problem, but less serious. So if there are any pros out there who saw this post & video, kindly share ur knowledge and tell me what went wrong at where. Seriously mindfark rclxub.gif


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Ur glasses got problem mb? I cant see much from the video.. haha..

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post Apr 2 2012, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 2 2012, 06:18 PM)
Can see.. This 1 not so serious only. After the Merc turn right u can see the front right tyre and the rear right tyre are not in the same line. I observe this Merc for quite long before I take the vid.. Been hoping to run into the camry again but till now no chance..
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Cant see much.. Camera too shaky.. Viewing in full screen causes extra headache only.. hahaha..
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post Apr 2 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Apr 2 2012, 06:33 PM)
Permanon seller advised me to do proper paint surface correction. Coating may not help swirls.
Since both of you say so, then i try to apply coating then sealant first.

Correct sequence right? Coating then sealant.
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Yeah coating first b4 sealant.. Cos coating meant to last much longer than sealant.
But beware of all kinds of marketing gimmicks.. a lot of company claims to do coating but in reality those are just sealants only.


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:38 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 2 2012, 06:36 PM)
Not easy to drive & record at the same time lo.. Plus no phone holder..
Good lo.. Engine NVH?
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RM10-15 only for a China holder mah.. haha.. Just get one only.. Uncle lim sponsor so much ady..

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post Apr 2 2012, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Apr 2 2012, 07:12 PM)
i pour in all 4l...  unsure.gif  rclxub.gif
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Hailat.GG.com.my.. Thats it lha.. Ur car FC will be super high, a lot of engine vibration.. reduced power.. etc etc.
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post Apr 3 2012, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Apr 2 2012, 08:15 PM)
not sure how the liquar sealant on the market... easy to diy, just spray on the body and wrap it only...
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Liquid sealant u mean?? Can use Permanon.. hehe.. U want? I got do coating service..

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Apr 2 2012, 09:09 PM)
Do not worry too much bro MengSuan, like you said it is just minor swirls under light... Live with it first, only do a proper correction after you collected some more "damage" which is unavoidable consider you do drive in city and highway, there will be intentional or unintentional damage.

Even you do not trust me, you can trust bro Zeng, he is equally good about car detailing. Although he hasn't use Permanon tongue.gif
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LOL.. I dont have quite a lot of Permanon with me now..hehehe..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 2 2012, 09:44 PM)
filter spark plug and LCP, current FC 8.3L, clocked 3.5k KM, 70% city 30% highway  whistling.gif
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Thats actually some very good mileage.. Seriously u wont be able to get any better..

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Apr 2 2012, 09:50 PM)
Based on the odometer, it says I have ~530KM on a full tank. Plausible?
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I get ~570km after filling full tank.. Plausible, but once u jalan jalan a bit it will drop very fast.. The worst part is when the reach the last gap time, from 130-150km estimated balance mileage to "---" blinking in less than 50km..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 2 2012, 11:09 PM)
hehe, cause pulley lose momentum ma, after LCP also you feel if no press pedal, the RPM go down damn fast, then the speed kenot maintain as long as with normal pulley
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notworthy.gif Lu banyak deserve the 8As ..Now where is my TGI fridays?

QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 3 2012, 02:08 AM)
If u're dealing with 1 person then it's easier, but when 10 is involved u get all sorts of problems. sweat.gif

Raimy, WanTheBear, Que missing since TT. Fubar also missing since last nite. hmm.gif
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All go sembahyang bersih dosa.. tongue.gif


Listen to it with the audio on.. U will get the shock of ur life..



Added on April 3, 2012, 6:32 am
QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 3 2012, 01:12 AM)
doh.gif afternoon la. That day I saw him talking with him he said monday or tuesday afternoon ok wan.. doh.gif
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Afternoon i also ok one.. At least u adjust the timing to go after 1pm and come back b4 6pm.. So i can go to work in time..

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post Apr 3 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 3 2012, 09:59 AM)
The white car pening til vomit out it's passenger  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif Tak pakai seatbelt ke  hmm.gif
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LOL.. Its the cars safety feature.. When it detects body roll that time the car will automatically release seatbelt to eject passenger, so the passenger will drop out from the car and wont be crushed together in the car.

QUOTE(dannyw @ Apr 3 2012, 10:51 AM)
If disconnet...then everything have to reset.... sweat.gif


Added on April 3, 2012, 10:52 am

So you advice to warm up...like 15 minutes? Cos my wife dunno how to drive. So the most is ask her to start the engine the wait 10 minutes, and off.

Does it help?
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Can just leave it there.. I have left my car in the porch without starting for up to 3weeks b4..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 3 2012, 01:15 PM)
No lo..forte 1.6 how to race wit u?hehe..
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Forte 1.6 got Gamma engine.. It has lower CC than Campro but higher power and torque.. 6 speed transmission somemore.. Sure better than PE since lighter too..

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 3 2012, 01:44 PM)
forte leh, sumwhat have to be better then cam x pro la
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Ya loh.. Better go but that car instead.

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post Apr 3 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 3 2012, 02:08 PM)
Dun forget forte use 17inch rim and d weight is slightly heavier than pe..but seems like d rear legroom quite spacious
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17" or 15" also there is not much difference.. A properly inflated 17" is even easier to roll than 15".. Dont believe me go to a tire shop and roll a 15" tire with chrome rim and 17" tire with lightweight rims.. Then only u will know the difference in rolling resistance.

Or u can try when both the rims are on a tire balancer, u try to spin it.. See which one needs more effort. Thats the principle of inertia..

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post Apr 4 2012, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2012, 04:19 PM)
Haha...no need ferarri, a lot of cars in the same range accelerate better than PE liao...

btw. I've a friend driving the 6 speed forte 1.6 ex and my neighbour driving 2.0sx.

Full spec SX definitely is much more worth it then the feature lacking ex. 1.6 quite powerful liao with the revised 6 speed gear ratio. However IMO, it still has a.....mmm...underpower feel, much better than the 4 speed version tho. Have you try 2.0, its torque is way better although price also goes up over 12K.

Just like the Civic 1.8 underpower feel, Civic should be driven in 2.0 engine just like Forte 2.0 engine. However if you have not really try out the 2.0, actually Forte 6 speed 1.6 is quite good liao.

Build quality is good with extra padding but after a year or so, noise also will start appearing...better than PE tho....before arrive my hand also got sound liao.
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But i feel after driving the Forte 2.0 and the Koup, the engine noise seems to be higher than PE and the tire well insulation doesnt seems to be as good as my bitumen sprayed PE too.. But Power wise definitely better in pickup..


QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Apr 3 2012, 04:54 PM)
Then go buy helicopter la... fast and no jam can go anywhere u want. kns.. compare compare.. got money to buy whatever car u want within budget then compare nvm... always compare but never buy , ppl give answer and opinion yet again compare with another car  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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I totally agree on this part..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 3 2012, 05:05 PM)
Ya,i knw cant compare  wit pe..but since i wan upgrade from pe,sure i need to compare lo..but juz unknownhammie always want korek issue to shoot lo.he oledi around 2 week like tat liao..tats why cause alot keyboard warrior wit our member.hehe..maybe he salah makan ubat liao.hehe..anyway,i juz plan discuss wit u all.since its not welcome at here,so i wil stop at here..
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No its not that.. U are going around and asking what car is the best.. But have u even thought of how much would you lose when u trade in ur PE now?
My car current trade in value is around 34-36k only.. Even though u have decided to buy a Forte or Inspira or Civic or whatever car, are u willing to sell off ur current car at a high lost now? I understand u are surveying for a car to upgrade.. But then when u are just blindly asking around and hvnt considered the total upgrade value of ur car, u are just walking into a dead trap. Like for me i wanted to upgrade to P3-21A, however my car trade in value is only 38k at max.. If i were to sell the car at that price then i would have to rugi a lot, have to top up more cash to settle the current car loan and have to fork out extra for downpayment also..

So when u have considered all this and still determined to change then u are welcome to bring back this car comparison topic. But to answer ur main question on is it worth to upgrade from my viewpoint, non of the cars above are worth the amount u are going to lose if u were to upgrade now since ur car is less than 2 years old.. if ur car is around 3years and above then it might make sense to upgrade... Do consider the fact that a Forte 1.6/inspira 1.8/2.0 is going to cost a lot of just a slight bump in improvements.

QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2012, 06:19 PM)
Actually I understand Sam very well. When we have family with limited budget, we cannot just say like and straight buy coz the car going to be with us for a long time. I second Sam on comparing different vehicles even drag for long time.....coz I will be in same situation if I wanna buy a better car but only limited budget. I would go ask opinion from all, then asked again opinion abt other cars later when they become available. Think a lot and do budgeting, timing, then only buy.

For my City, I research 3 months with different models, company, etc before finally settle on it....how...when I hit the 3rd month, MMC city appear and suddenly everything, timing, budget, just hit on right spot...that car lasted me 6 years liao and will keep going.

So maybe those bachelors without household budget burden (aka kids, wife, parents, household, future keeping) with limited budget just won't really get it.
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He has a family with limited budget. So whats the point of wasting money so early to get a REPLACEMENT car? Ur case is getting a 2ND car. which is ideal since u are not going to incur replacement cost.. But when a person always butthurt on how lousy his car performance is and base on that point u want to change to a more powerful car and then come back here to nag about how the Putra Evo3 turbo can still tapau ur 2.0 Inspira and how ur Inspira 2.0 can keep up with a Camry 2.4/ Accord 2.4/ Mazda6 2.5 all then whats the point of upgrading and still butt hurting?

QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 3 2012, 11:58 PM)
Oh. I could use a drink or two. smile.gif Maybe. Ask the others.
Can lah but the gains not much lah.. Change engine oil lo.. whistling.gif cusco whistling.gif
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Where my TFSI turbo kit? Belum sampai yet?
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post Apr 4 2012, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 4 2012, 02:30 AM)
Tomorrow going to check.

Ha,ha,ha. What I don't understand is, why sam need such a good car when he only travel less than 10 kms a day? Samore already got 2 cars at home. doh.gif If me.. I rather just own 1 car, only the PE, then work for the next 4-5 years or so for a better car rather than thinkin bout it now.
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Good car or not ok lah.. But he wants to buy a new car to travel that 10km everytime might not sound wise.. The advantage of a 90k budget car is near to none when he travels that distance only and the occasional long distance travel to Muar. In 4-5years time most of the cars would be forced induced and it makes more sense to change to those car that time if u want better torque and pickup.
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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 4 2012, 03:11 AM)
Go buy 2nd hand wira 2.0 turbodiesel. whistling.gif
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That one very rare car bro.. Collectors item ady.. Sure not cheap..hahahaha...
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post Apr 4 2012, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 4 2012, 03:16 AM)
Eh got la.. Go search.. I think I saw a few last time selling for 8-10k.. Ok mah.. Get one, rebuild the whole engine and throw on a td04 turbocharger.. brows.gif then piggyback ECU, remap it to make 200-300HP on wheel.. whistling.gif
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Diesel engine later with TD04 and Unichip Q+ and Turbo diesel module can achieve around 350NM of torque and around 200HP easily.. haha... Cost around 12k only to boost up.. Can tapau even Evo3 Putra and some says the Proton Preve too..
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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 4 2012, 03:23 AM)
whistling.gif preve can eat dust whistling.gif the wira diesel is an awesome car. Sad thing they don't make it anymore. FC damn low.
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Maintenance problem.. Not enough spare parts for it.. But that diesel 2.0 somemore.. If properly done up it would be a legendary car..

If u are interested we can get the car and do it up to become a project car also.. Then go tapau all the Preve on the roads.

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post Apr 6 2012, 08:52 PM

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Hello Im new B line owner here.. No money buy Preve so ended up sticking to Persona then.. I hope its a good carr.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 6 2012, 11:51 AM)
my car no problem, dunno why, lolol
no, i shall sit on her legs help her reverse
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Cos PE strong mah..

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Apr 6 2012, 11:59 AM)
WTF?

40k service RM580 total at cheras SC behind Giant connaught? kns how to service.
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Go intan matang loh.. But i hvnt get my engine oil yet.. xandra when u can get it for me?/

QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 6 2012, 12:23 PM)
yea, for half a year, first, if feels good, then continue lo
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Sure good one lah.. Nobody want to stay at home when they can stay in hostel lah.. Its a life u will never get to experience anymore unless u strike mega lottery..


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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Apr 6 2012, 08:54 PM)
u got urself another B-line? why
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I newbie here.. smile.gif

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So far me and wonderbear going.. Any other ppl coming too?

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 6 2012, 08:58 PM)
Sure! U'll be most welcomed whistling.gif
yawn.gif no stock macha.. doh.gif this Monday if still no stock I can't help u d..
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