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post Mar 29 2012, 06:37 PM


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My family and i are looking for a new car in a month time with a price RM200k but we don't know which car to get. It doesn't matter a sedan or suv. May be you guys can help me which.. and why. We're looking for a 1.8L and above. so the peugeot 508 is out. We've seen the vw passat and the kia optima.. or course if you're gonna tell me mazda6.. the model's kinda old isn't it. will there we any new car launching in a month plus time?
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post Mar 29 2012, 06:49 PM


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How about BMW / Merc ?
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post Mar 29 2012, 06:50 PM


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how many people in ur family? any special spec u want the car to have?
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 29 2012, 06:37 PM)
My family and i are looking for a new car in a month time with a price RM200k but we don't know which car to get. It doesn't matter a sedan or suv. May be you guys can help me which.. and why. We're looking for a 1.8L and above. so the peugeot 508 is out. We've seen the vw passat and the kia optima.. or course if you're gonna tell me mazda6.. the model's kinda old isn't it. will there we any new car launching in a month plus time?
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pls test drive 508 first. it is more powerful than 2.4.

it is 1.6 TURBO



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post Mar 29 2012, 07:03 PM


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QUOTE(finalazy84 @ Mar 29 2012, 07:52 PM)
how many people in ur family? any special spec u want the car to have?
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we have only four in the family. smile.gif


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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 29 2012, 07:52 PM)
pls test drive 508 first. it is more powerful than 2.4.

it is 1.6 TURBO
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no no no.. it's regarding some requirements the company would not allow us to buy below a 1.8. we've seen it, it's a nice car though.. compared to the passat. XD


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how many people in ur family? any special spec u want the car to have?
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hmm.. well, i'm not really sure. for example, because some cars doesn't come with a reverse camera or a front sensor.. soo.. it doesn't really matter i guess. can be installed. specs value for money? more specs the better??


Added on March 29, 2012, 7:11 pmI read over the net that the passat is under power?? but it's a 1.8 turbo.. the car's really steady when getting in and out of the car..

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post Mar 29 2012, 07:18 PM


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Define power.

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post Mar 29 2012, 07:56 PM


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if you don't mind poor resale value and everything since the company is paying...go take a look at skoda superb....same engine as passat but much bigger car...better specs i presume...
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post Mar 29 2012, 08:22 PM


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I'm guessing your in a similar position with my uncle previously. Company "forcing" you to buy a car that projects "appropriate" image of senior management. Company to subsidise RM100k.

If this is the case, then image is a prime factor. So go buy 2nd hand Merc, C200 or something along that line.


Added on March 29, 2012, 8:25 pmI'm guessing your in a similar position with my uncle previously. Company "forcing" you to buy a car that projects "appropriate" image of senior management. Company to subsidise RM100k.

If this is the case, then image is a prime factor. So go buy 2nd hand Merc, C200 or something along that line.

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post Mar 29 2012, 10:09 PM


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cis! easy solution.
nissan teana.
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:22 PM


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For D-segment cars, there is Passat, Teana, Camry, Accord, Mazda 6, Mondeo, Sonata, Optima K5, Kizashi. In my opinion, the most value for money would be Passat (german, performance, comfort) though it probably isn't the biggest. What do you guys think regarding the choices above?
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:24 PM


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QUOTE(chuakz @ Mar 29 2012, 08:56 PM)
if you don't mind poor resale value and everything since the company is paying...go take a look at skoda superb....same engine as passat but much bigger car...better specs i presume...
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haha! okay i'll go check it out. yeah, skoda isn't as well known. thanks yea!


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QUOTE(azfamy @ Mar 29 2012, 09:22 PM)
I'm guessing your in a similar position with my uncle previously. Company "forcing" you to buy a car that projects "appropriate" image of senior management. Company to subsidise RM100k.

If this is the case, then image is a prime factor. So go buy 2nd hand Merc, C200 or something along that line.


Added on March 29, 2012, 8:25 pmI'm guessing your in a similar position with my uncle previously. Company "forcing" you to buy a car that projects "appropriate" image of senior management. Company to subsidise RM100k.

If this is the case, then image is a prime factor. So go buy 2nd hand Merc, C200 or something along that line.
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Yea, something like that. Haha! C-class, the bmw 3-series or the A4 looks really good right, i wouldn't mind paying the extra for a new car though. but don't you think those cars are a little too small for a family?? the young couple feel. hahaha.. i did thought of getting the passat cc but there's a new model launching next year.. anyway, try stick to below RM 200k first. biggrin.gifD


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QUOTE(riezzien @ Mar 29 2012, 11:09 PM)
cis! easy solution.
nissan teana.
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hahahaha! they say the teana is an old man's car? hahhaha.. they have good specs! a bit old. haha. anyway, why'd you say teana than to the rest of the cars? like the kia or toyota or hyundai or vw..?


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For D-segment cars, there is Passat, Teana, Camry, Accord, Mazda 6, Mondeo, Sonata, Optima K5, Kizashi. In my opinion, the most value for money would be Passat (german, performance, comfort) though it probably isn't the biggest. What do you guys think regarding the choices above?
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yea.. its either the camry or accord but it isn't launched yet doesn't look as appeal right?. sonata and k5 is sooooooooooooo nice. korean cars usually suck, it seems. need more feedback on korean car performance. i have a friend switched frm the camry to the sonata and he complaint sooo much abt sonata. mazda6 launched quite awhile ago.. the mondeo is promoting it's power. but they don't offer anything good in it, im not a race driver haha i have a family. passat is fine. i think it's lack of spec compared to the k5? i don't know abt you guys, but that's what i think.. do enlighten me.

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post Mar 29 2012, 10:43 PM


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post Mar 29 2012, 10:48 PM


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QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 29 2012, 11:43 PM)
VOLVO S80 2.5T (2008)
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heyy thanks, but i don't really want to drive a used car. sad.gif ..well, even the mazda6 i'm not willing to buy because it launched quite awhile ago. try avoiding reCond, if possible. smile.gif)))
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:52 PM


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post Mar 29 2012, 10:52 PM


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Hey guys, don't forget to tell me why you have that car as your choice kayyy.. because i don't wanna buy a car just because someone says it. or at least the pros and cons. i'm not rich so it's a lot of money for me. sad.gif
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post Mar 29 2012, 11:03 PM


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anybody thought of Ford Mondeo? If the Passat is not your cup of tea, the Mondeo is really an exceptional car. other japanese and korean marque sucks compared to it.

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post Mar 29 2012, 11:20 PM


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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Mar 30 2012, 12:03 AM)
anybody thought of Ford Mondeo?  If the Passat is not your cup of tea, the Mondeo is really an exceptional car.  other japanese and korean marque sucks compared to it.
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i'd choose the passat over mondeo. has better image than a ford driver or possibility or better value. Is the passat under power? if what i've read on the net is true. which would you choose between the two? ..or which car would you choose over all?
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 29 2012, 10:52 PM)
Hey guys, don't forget to tell me why you have that car as your choice kayyy.. because i don't wanna buy a car just because someone says it. or at least the pros and cons. i'm not rich so it's a lot of money for me. sad.gif
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I dare you. Eventually you could not buy a car that you like, and i guess chances of you regret the car you bought is 80%. Every ppl have their own cup of tea, different taste. If there is a car that is so perfect, then all the other brand close shop already. For me, i would advise you extend your car buying time, go for test drive, see what you actually want, and i bet the car eventually you buy will have 80% satisfaction instead of regret.

my 1 cent.

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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 29 2012, 11:20 PM)
i'd choose the passat over mondeo. has better image than a ford driver or possibility or better value. Is the passat under power? if what i've read on the net is true. which would you choose between the two? ..or which car would you choose over all?
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passat underpowered? even ppl who are gila kuasa like me won't even say that. for me personally i would choose the mondeo any day, it's much more handsome than the weird looking passat, plus it's unique on malaysian roads, u won't see it often.
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post Mar 29 2012, 11:24 PM


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Mondeo is also nice, true. I'd seriously check out the Superb. It's the same tech as a VW. Based on the platform that also the Golf uses (in XXL form), it is more an executive saloon, e segment, whatever you would like to call it. Top Gear Magazine called it luxury car of the year. Not sure what the specs are though, the Skoda website seems to be rather general, meant for all markets.

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post Mar 29 2012, 11:32 PM


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Ok, so you're looking at these properties;
1. Image - premium or continentals, classy not sporty
2. Specs - lotsa gadgets and creature comforts
3. Space - decent for family (D-segment)
4. Performance - new tech with decent power
5. Resale value not as important because company partly sponsor cost

Based on the above;
1. Passat -less gadget but great value overall
2. Citroen C5 -the magic carpet

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post Mar 29 2012, 11:34 PM


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Volvo S60 T5 or T6. Full of impressive safety features yet powerful engine.
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QUOTE(azfamy @ Mar 30 2012, 12:32 AM)
Ok, so you're looking at these properties;
1. Image - premium or continentals, classy not sporty
2. Specs - lotsa gadgets and creature comforts
3. Space - decent for family (D-segment)
4. Performance - new tech with decent power
5. Resale value not as important because company partly sponsor cost

Based on the above;
1. Passat -less gadget but great value overall
2. Citroen C5 -the magic carpet
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haha! why magic carpet? tell me more!


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Volvo S60 T5 or T6. Full of impressive safety features yet powerful engine.
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what's the difference with t6 and t5? isn't it above RM 200? same level as C-class, A4 and 3-Series?

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post Mar 30 2012, 12:41 PM


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it is too bad that you cannot buy the peugeot 508. that is one nice looking executive car with comfort and power to match.

Passat should be a great choice, though the back seats are not as comfy as the 508.

Citroen C5 - is a hidden gem. not a lot of people know or dare to take the risk of driving a citroen which is too bad. i happen to like it a lot.
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TS already say dowan sporty image. He also dowan the best performance. It's like telling someone who likes Merc to buy a Bimmer.

TS should test drive the C5. Feel yourself if the reputed peerless ride quality really suits you. And then only continue here so that discussion can be more meaningful. Oh, C5 also have interior like spaceship.
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QUOTE(azfamy @ Mar 30 2012, 01:30 PM)
TS already say dowan sporty image. He also dowan the best performance. It's like telling someone who likes Merc to buy a Bimmer.

TS should test drive the C5. Feel yourself if the reputed peerless ride quality really suits you. And then only continue here so that discussion can be more meaningful. Oh, C5 also have interior like spaceship.
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citroen c5 is 1.6....same engine with 508...TS don't want 1.6...best value is skoda superb...basically its a very big passat with same engine and dare i say...better build quality? watch reviews....2nd hand value is low though...but if using the car long term...or company paying...go for it...parts should be interchangeable with VW
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I seconded the C5 but it is also 1.6 turbo

The Hydractive suspension really driving on MY road like riding on magic carpet.
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I driving the c5 and c4 picarsso. C5 really good car but gearbox still downside abit from this car. Interior buttom so much so complex...some i als dunno what it used for. Lazy read manuaal.

One more thing are every 20k i change the hydraulic suspention o ring prevent it leaks.

It it kaput...cost of new one around 20k


Citroen and pregeout share alot common things

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TS, Tell us what 200k have to decided on...
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QUOTE(chuakz @ Mar 30 2012, 02:05 PM)
citroen c5 is 1.6....same engine with 508...TS don't want 1.6...best value is skoda superb...basically its a very big passat with same engine and dare i say...better build quality? watch reviews....2nd hand value is low though...but if using the car long term...or company paying...go for it...parts should be interchangeable with VW
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Skoda is supposed to be the poor man version of VW. Czech built. However, in MY, the price is not cheap and it is safer to go with VW.
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Suzuki Kizashi or Nissan Teana 2.5..

New Toyota Camry sucks on safety.. no more VSC except for hybrid model...
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I will vote teana 2.5 .... Excellent NVH, decent executive image and i love the xtonic cvt gearbox.....got built in multimedia gps, front sensor, reverse camera etc.....go and test drive to appreciate it.....i decide on this car after test driving other d segment cars such as camry, accord, sonata.....
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http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...highlights.html
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Go for the new facelifted Audi A4 1.8 TFSI Turbo. OTR price + 55% NCB insurance premium only approx RM 243K. But warranty period only 2 years and parts very expensive.


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My family and i are looking for a new car in a month time with a price RM200k but we don't know which car to get. It doesn't matter a sedan or suv. May be you guys can help me which.. and why. We're looking for a 1.8L and above. so the peugeot 508 is out. We've seen the vw passat and the kia optima.. or course if you're gonna tell me mazda6.. the model's kinda old isn't it. will there we any new car launching in a month plus time?
Difficult question to answer. U gotta provide more details. You also need to have a rough idea of what type of car u looking for. Im sure u must have a rough idea.

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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 29 2012, 06:37 PM)
My family and i are looking for a new car in a month time with a price RM200k but we don't know which car to get. It doesn't matter a sedan or suv. May be you guys can help me which.. and why. We're looking for a 1.8L and above. so the peugeot 508 is out. We've seen the vw passat and the kia optima.. or course if you're gonna tell me mazda6.. the model's kinda old isn't it. will there we any new car launching in a month plus time?
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QUOTE(lowyatter @ Mar 30 2012, 04:15 PM)
VW Passat
- RM185k
- 1.8L engine, 160bhp
- 7 speed DSG Gearbox

http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...highlights.html
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I will vote teana 2.5 .... Excellent NVH, decent executive image and i love the xtonic cvt gearbox.....got built in multimedia gps, front sensor, reverse camera etc.....go and test drive to appreciate it.....i decide on this car after test driving other d segment cars such as camry, accord, sonata.....
But u didnt test Kia Optima? shocking.gif

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But u didnt test Kia Optima?  shocking.gif
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TS, Tell us what 200k have to decided on...
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haha, i'm still new i don't know why everyone is calling me ts. haha. it's doesn't have to be a race car like someone mentioned civic type R, a nice comfortable family ride, but of course enough power to go up to cameron highlands as we always take our pets there. i have a harrier but i dare not use it to camerons as it feels too heavy? haha, instead its been the camry all this while.sometimes the 1.6turbo or the 1.8turbo can't really tell apart as some cars are heavier than the other. nobody wants a draggy car. size.. big (passat is still fine), not like the A4, 3-series and the C-class. i kinda like the kia though with all the cool features even if the reverse camera is a bit retarded with the small screen.. but i'm afraid it may look cheap as it is comparatively cheap to the rest. most of all. A NEW CAR, model realeased not long ago. does anyone know anything abt the alfa romeo?
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haha, i'm still new i don't know why everyone is calling me ts. haha. it's doesn't have to be a race car like someone mentioned civic type R, a nice comfortable family ride, but of course enough power to go up to cameron highlands as we always take our pets there. i have a harrier but i dare not use it to camerons as it feels too heavy? haha, instead its been the camry all this while.sometimes the 1.6turbo or the 1.8turbo can't really tell apart as some cars are heavier than the other. nobody wants a draggy car. size.. big (passat is still fine), not like the A4, 3-series and the C-class. i kinda like the kia though with all the cool features even if the reverse camera is a bit retarded with the small screen.. but i'm afraid it may look cheap as it is comparatively cheap to the rest. most of all. A NEW CAR, model realeased not long ago. does anyone know anything abt the alfa romeo?
U have way too many criterias. I suggest you narrow down your criteria and list down the 3 most important ones. Then it would be easier. If not we'll be shooting all over the place.
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QUOTE(karyeowl @ Mar 30 2012, 06:34 PM)
Kia Optima should be similar to Hyundai Sonata YF. (Kia belongs to Hyundai) Kia is distributed by Naza, and Naza's spare parts are more expensive than Hyundai (Sime Darby's)
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we went around seeing the cars. haven't test drive. so you're saying you would choose the optima over the sonata?
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how bout passat cc 2011 model 2nd hand only few with low milage.. like new condition.. very sleeks looks 2.0 turbo 7 speed DSG gearbox( totally superb)
u can find around rm200k- rm215k only
brand new rm260k
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Boring and dull.  yawn.gif


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But u didnt test Kia Optima?  shocking.gif
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The test unit is not available during my visit to the show room .....but i actually once drive my friend optima which is one of a very few optima in my town.....l like driving but i cant see myself owning it....not my type.....in the end the choice is very obvious based on my needs....and its not optima.....
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 30 2012, 06:05 PM)
we went around seeing the cars. haven't test drive. so you're saying you would choose the optima over the sonata?
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Between Kia and Hyundai, I will go for Hyundai. 5yrs - 300,000km warranty

If I have 200K to buy a car, I will go for Passat CKD now at RM171K or Citroen C5.
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I would get the new Toyota fortuner even though it is overpriced and underpower cuz I just like the big and higher car feel. Just my preference but other wise the Kia k5 looks very nice but I dunno if the waiting time is as long as sportage. Btw the Kia sportage is worth a try....very stylish car smile.gif
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 30 2012, 12:27 AM)
haha! why magic carpet? tell me more!


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what's the difference with t6 and t5? isn't it above RM 200? same level as C-class, A4 and 3-Series?
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Citroen has been using their Hydropneumatik suspension system for many, many years. It was so good that Rolls Royce licensed it from them, to give their customers the very best ride there is (in terms of comfort). The Xantia Activa was, besides superbly comfortable, also very good in terms of handling, even beating Lotus models in corner speed. Newer ones aren't that good through the corner, but still good enough, and they are extremely comfortable.
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-s...t-1_2196731.htm
I hope somehow there you can find the C6 review... in terms of suspension they should be quite similar.

The Skoda Superb is bigger than the Passat and is pitted against 5 series and A6 in reviews (and has a chance due to it's very low price... and well, compared to a 5 series or A6 it is affordable, also in Malaysia.
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haha, i'm still new i don't know why everyone is calling me ts. haha.
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They call you TS because TS stands for "Thread Starter" smile.gif
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QUOTE(karyeowl @ Mar 30 2012, 07:35 PM)
Between Kia and Hyundai, I will go for Hyundai. 5yrs - 300,000km warranty
Is it that u dont really know much about cars or ure too lazy to do research? Kia has among the best warranty terms in the market currently. It has 5 years unlimited mileage warranty unlike Hyundai.


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Kia Optima should be similar to Hyundai Sonata YF. (Kia belongs to Hyundai) Kia is distributed by Naza, and Naza's spare parts are more expensive than Hyundai (Sime Darby's)
Optima is very much different from Sonata la. The only thing similar is the engine and gearbox. The Optima comes with much better specs than even the Sonata 2.4L. Its also 20mm longer than the Sonata (not that it matters anyway).

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Hey guys, we've recently narrowed down to volkwagon passat or the nissan teana, please do leave your opinions k.. smile.gif
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yes to v6 3.5 litre teana if not then passat
go test drive them, won't you be the one that'll be driving them most of the time?
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Mar 31 2012, 05:00 PM)
Hey guys, we've recently narrowed down to volkwagon passat or the nissan teana, please do leave your opinions k.. smile.gif
Which Passat u refering to? The 1.8TSFI? If uve narrowed down to only these 2 cars, then my suggestion would be to wait for the upcoming Passat CC 2.0L Turbo. It looks similar to the current Passat 1.8 (which is a negative). But its due for launch in April so im sure u can wait a while.

But if u ask me, ill say no to both. Passat too dull and boring while the Teana is too uncle looking and specs not impressive.
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Both are in the same price range of between rm 170 k ++. Its hard to decide on these 2. One is conti and another is japs.
All the while conti cars got better driving feel than japs. But this teana oso share the same platform of Renault which is oso conti.

Maintenance wise, teana is cheaper than passat. Comfort wise, i dunno coz havent tested passat.

Currently i m driving teana 2.5. It has extremely comfort ride with acceptable acceleration. Passat is using DSG gearbox which is fast in changing gears but u still feel it is changing. In teana, u feel nothing on gear changing, totally feeling no gear at all. I choose teana because i like this xtronic cvt gear. It is so smooth...

The interior wise, teana has sofa seat design which is very comfort for passenger sitting inside.

If u wish to know more about teana comfortable ride, pls go to this thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1597710/+980

I believe teana owners there will answer most of ur questions and ride.. smile.gif

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Ask yourself.... If want sporty the obvious choice is passat..... Or if you want comfortable it should be teana.....
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Ask yourself.... If want sporty the obvious choice is passat..... Or if you want comfortable it should be teana.....
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yeah, if comfort is an important factor then go for teana. other than that passat is a better all rounder.

Pros of teana (2.5l) :
comfortable
parts are cheaper

Pros of passat:
powerful 1.8 TSI with DSG (a point that is strong enough, 1.8 TSI has even more torque than teana's 2.5l and 7 speeds gearbox )
cheap roadtax (saves rm600 annually compared to teana)
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1year or 15k service interval (good for people who dont like to waste time arranging car service a few times annually)
5years warranty with unlimited mileage and 5years road assist (excellent for people who travel alot)
safety features (more airbags than teana, ABS, EBD, ESP, EDTC, EDL and NCAP 5-stars)
better fc i think? (not so sure as only traveled not more than 1k)
nice DRL and Xenon headlamps
sporty steering


Cons of passat:
no auto folding mirror (lame but can be installed at arnd rm1k, not v sure)
dsg transmission takes time to get used to
not so comfortable seats
common rattling sound from dashboard (some owners managed to fix it)

i try to give opinion based from wat i know and hope it helps.

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since both car u narrowed down is 5 seater so mean either would match ur needed > family

so now we talk about driving pressure, i believe most of the time u r driving the car alone then with ur family(go work etcs)
so are you the type that like spirited drive? if yes passat obviously the choice

if not then go for the teana =)

the different between them is more o less on drivability wise, comfort wise both of them are equal or on-par ( to me),
But in term of drivability, passat can give u the "kick" or "oohm" when u need it
but in teana it give u "uncle-friendly" rubberband trans biggrin.gif which feel so comfort during acceleration.

anyway the passat i test-drive a few time is passat cc, the normal passat i just tested once, so my view is sort of mix.


appearance wise, passat have a luxury conti feel, and teana give me some yakuza's wife car feel lol....
btw my family use to choose between these car but at the end my family got the BMW 3-er
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since both car u narrowed down is 5 seater so mean either would match ur needed > family

so now we talk about driving pressure, i believe most of the time u r driving the car alone then with ur family(go work etcs)
so are you the type that like spirited drive? if yes passat obviously the choice

if not then go for the teana =)

the different between them is more o less on drivability wise, comfort wise both of them are equal or on-par ( to me),
But in term of drivability, passat can give u the "kick" or "oohm" when u need it
but in teana it give u "uncle-friendly" rubberband trans  biggrin.gif  which feel so comfort during acceleration.

anyway the passat i test-drive a few time is passat cc, the normal passat i just tested once, so my view is sort of mix.
appearance wise, passat have a luxury conti feel, and teana give me some yakuza's wife car feel lol....
btw my family use to choose between these car but at the end my family got the BMW 3-er
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the teana is definitely better than passat in terms of comfort (in my opinion). at least the one i tried was 3.5 V6 version and it easily beats passat for its nice and comfortable seats. but they are in beige colour which would look dirty over some time. passat's seats are a bit rough and hard.

oh ya, teana has keyless entry and start stop. for passat u can only unlock the car using remote and u must insert the key and press in order to start. not a big problem but quite troublesome.. i driven the 3.5 V6 version before but somehow it didnt really impress me in terms of pick up but the 1.8 TSI from passat is really impressive.

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QUOTE(kevinphuah88 @ Apr 1 2012, 12:27 AM)
the teana is definitely better than passat in terms of comfort (in my opinion). at least the one i tried was 3.5 V6 version and it easily beats passat for its nice and comfortable seats. but they are in beige colour which would look dirty over some time. passat's seats are a bit rough and hard.

oh ya, teana has keyless entry and start stop. for passat u can only unlock the car using remote and u must insert the key and press in order to start. not a big problem but quite troublesome.. i driven the 3.5 V6 version before but somehow it didnt really impress me in terms of pick up but the 1.8 TSI from passat is really impressive.
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Are u sure? Passat 1.8 did 0-100 in 8.6 sec. But teana 3.5 v6 did it in less than 7 sec. I think is around 6.2 sec. For cvt u need to floor deep down on the accelerate pedal only can feel the kick. But DSG gearbox in passat, it is different. With just a slight acceleration flooring, u will feel the oomp. This is becoz it has turbo. To some ppl, they may like it, but, for me which is uncle type, i prefer cvt becoz i dun like too much movement in the car during my ride. So i dun like those car with too much pickup

As my teana 2.5 v6, it can provide decent acceleration which is around 9 sec ++
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Are u sure? Passat 1.8 did 0-100 in 8.6 sec. But teana 3.5 v6 did it in less than 7 sec. I think is around 6.2 sec. For cvt u need to floor deep down on the accelerate pedal only can feel the kick. But DSG gearbox in passat, it is different. With just a slight acceleration flooring, u will feel the oomp. This is becoz it has turbo. To some ppl, they may like it, but, for me which is uncle type, i prefer cvt becoz i dun like too much movement in the car during my ride. So i dun like those car with too much pickup

As my teana 2.5 v6, it can provide decent acceleration which is around 9 sec ++
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I wasn't saying teana 3.5 is slower than Passat. Just tat i find the delivery of power Passat offers like more attractive than the teana even though the teana has double It's displacement. Maybe because the Passat's torque comes handy from as low as 1500rpm. But the teana is one nice n comfortable car which is linear in term of acceleration like Wat u said. May I know how's the fc of ur teana 2.5?

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I wasn't saying teana 3.5 is slower than Passat. Just tat i find the delivery of power Passat offers like more attractive than the teana even though the teana has double It's displacement. Maybe because the Passat's torque comes handy from as low as 1500rpm. But the teana is one nice n comfortable car which is linear in term of acceleration like Wat u said. May I know how's the fc of ur teana 2.5?
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Yes, passat dsg gearbox is very responsive. U will feel the immediate pickup when u floor the pedal. It is just the same as my jetta. During weekday which is always jam, i prefer to drive teana to work. Sitting comfortably in the comfort cabin. Weekend will use jetta..

In city drive, fc will be around 600 km per full tank...it will be slightly higher than teana 2.0 xe. In higway, i think i can managed to get 700 km ++. Some other teana 2.0 xe can get 800 km in highway.

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no wait wait! we tested the passat and it sucks! the seat lousy. hard, squarish, and not comfortable. there's nothing special ith the car. with that 180k pricetag and non auto folding. -.- we had no choice but considering the Citreon C5, you guys were right! magic carpet. felt the turbo! plus its bigGER! except that the citreon when cornering with the steering wheel, i keep hitting the central control. K5 's dashboard is too high, feels unsafe to drive, no proper view and ceiling too low, and the leg room, my legs kept hitting the steering wheel. Fantastic drsign though. hey thanks a lot guys! keep the comments coming and continue to keep me updated
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Apr 2 2012, 06:49 PM)
no wait wait! we tested the passat and it sucks! the seat lousy. hard, squarish, and not comfortable. there's nothing special ith the car. with that 180k pricetag and non auto folding. -.- we had no choice but considering the Citreon C5, you guys were right! magic carpet. felt the turbo! plus its bigGER! except that the citreon when cornering with the steering wheel, i keep hitting the central control. K5 's dashboard is too high, feels unsafe to drive, no proper view and ceiling too low, and the leg room, my legs kept hitting the steering wheel. Fantastic drsign though. hey thanks a lot guys! keep the comments coming and continue to keep me updated
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u must know where u can service the citroen car. its not available everywhere.
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u must know where u can service the citroen car. its not available everywhere.
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haha, yeaaa.. we've thought of it. we're laving in PJ so should be okay. near naza showroom. thank you. if there're anymore new cars for me, do keep me updated yea. thanks!


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since both car u narrowed down is 5 seater so mean either would match ur needed > family

so now we talk about driving pressure, i believe most of the time u r driving the car alone then with ur family(go work etcs)
so are you the type that like spirited drive? if yes passat obviously the choice

if not then go for the teana =)

the different between them is more o less on drivability wise, comfort wise both of them are equal or on-par ( to me),
But in term of drivability, passat can give u the "kick" or "oohm" when u need it
but in teana it give u "uncle-friendly" rubberband trans  biggrin.gif  which feel so comfort during acceleration.

anyway the passat i test-drive a few time is passat cc, the normal passat i just tested once, so my view is sort of mix.
appearance wise, passat have a luxury conti feel, and teana give me some yakuza's wife car feel lol....
btw my family use to choose between these car but at the end my family got the BMW 3-er
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3 series as family car? but won't it be too small? how come not the a4 or the c-class?

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hey i dont mean to thread-jack but im also looking at a car similar sort of spec ~200k, i was looking at volvo S60 T4. Anyone have any thoughts on the car? I understand that volvo parts are a bit expensive but i'm looking for a safe car like TS, but my bias a bit more sporty. I'm also considering passat too smile.gif i will be commuting approximately every 1-2 weeks from Penang to KL.

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no wait wait! we tested the passat and it sucks! the seat lousy. hard, squarish, and not comfortable. there's nothing special ith the car. with that 180k pricetag and non auto folding. -.- we had no choice but considering the Citreon C5, you guys were right! magic carpet. felt the turbo! plus its bigGER! except that the citreon when cornering with the steering wheel, i keep hitting the central control. K5 's dashboard is too high, feels unsafe to drive, no proper view and ceiling too low, and the leg room, my legs kept hitting the steering wheel. Fantastic drsign though. hey thanks a lot guys! keep the comments coming and continue to keep me updated
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Agree, citroen c5 is a very good car. Its suspension is soooo smooth. Last time i borrow one old citroen from my brother in-law, the ride is excellent... rclxms.gif

U may try on this car if u dun care about its resale value... You oso will feel unique as well coz i hardly seen any c5 on road.

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QUOTE(|Keantan| @ Apr 3 2012, 12:08 AM)
hey i dont mean to thread-jack but im also looking at a car similar sort of spec ~200k, i was looking at volvo S60 T4. Anyone have any thoughts on the car? I understand that volvo parts are a bit expensive but i'm looking for a safe car like TS, but my bias a bit more sporty. I'm also considering passat too smile.gif i will be commuting approximately every 1-2 weeks from Penang to KL. 
I too considered the S60. It has good specs, good exterior design but poor interior. Plus warranty is the standard 3 yrs. I also had a look at the Audi A4 1.8Turbo but interior not spacious and it has a crap rear middle raised seat which makes it impossible to seat 3 adults at the back. Also had a look at the Merc C200 CGI but at RM 265K, it was too uncle'ish for my taste.

So ive dropped back down to the Kia Optima K5. At only RM 143,888 it has among the best specs around. Beats many 2.4L cars out there. Comfy seats and good mid range power. Plus it comes with 5 years warranty (unlimited mileage) and has the wow factor. Even if i dump it after 5 years, it will be fine as it only cost me sub RM 144K which is about 100K cheaper than the S60.


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Was in ur shoe b4 ts... but end up a e60 525...bought a Japan import unreg model so is above 200k but local recond is much lower... if I were u I be getting a 08 e60 m sports... no regrets even is a recond or 2nd hand... test drove a lot of car b4 getting it but still loves a bimmer... is diff compare to a VW n japs... but the seat is hard n low... so maybe u dun like it... I know is been almost 10 years for the e60 but it still one if the best looking dated car around..
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Was in ur shoe b4 ts... but end up a e60 525...bought a Japan import unreg model so is above 200k but local recond is much lower... if I were u I be getting a 08 e60 m sports... no regrets even is a recond or 2nd hand... test drove a lot of car b4 getting it but still loves a bimmer... is diff compare to a VW n japs... but the seat is hard n low... so maybe u dun like it... I know is been almost 10 years for the e60 but it still one if the best looking dated car around..
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e60 525 is a very good car....but i dun dare to own it becoz of its high maintenance..


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The maintance are almost similar to my Camry... but ofcoz when u get a 2nd hand car there are things u need to change... but not really cutting ur throat.. u just need to look for a good workshop.. and with reasonable price lol... make sure u get a good condition cars..
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QUOTE(eng98 @ Apr 3 2012, 01:06 PM)
The maintance are almost similar to my Camry... but ofcoz when u get a 2nd hand car there are things u need to change... but not really cutting ur throat.. u just need to look for a good workshop.. and with reasonable price lol... make sure u get a good condition cars..
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Ooh, ic. I dunno bimmer maintenance is almost like camry. All the while i heard ppl said the maintenance, wear and tear is crazy...
Since u r the owner of the e60 525 and claimed that the maintenance is reasonable, i may reconsider looking into bimmer in future.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 3 2012, 10:13 AM)
I too considered the S60. It has good specs, good exterior design but poor interior. Plus warranty is the standard 3 yrs. I also had a look at the Audi A4 1.8Turbo but interior not spacious and it has a crap rear middle raised seat which makes it impossible to seat 3 adults at the back. Also had a look at the Merc C200 CGI but at RM 265K, it was too uncle'ish for my taste.

So ive dropped back down to the Kia Optima K5. At only RM 143,888 it has among the best specs around. Beats many 2.4L cars out there. Comfy seats and good mid range power. Plus it comes with 5 years warranty (unlimited mileage) and has the wow factor. Even if i dump it after 5 years, it will be fine as it only cost me sub RM 144K which is about 100K cheaper than the S60.
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QUOTE(eng98 @ Apr 3 2012, 01:06 PM)
The maintance are almost similar to my Camry... but ofcoz when u get a 2nd hand car there are things u need to change... but not really cutting ur throat.. u just need to look for a good workshop.. and with reasonable price lol... make sure u get a good condition cars..
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Hi bro, maybe you could shed some light to some of us here? Im looking into old E46 as well atm. Read up on some on the maintenance part like eg: engine mounting, absorber, gearbox, bushes and so on. I'm surprise it's not like the few times expensive as claimed by someone. The only part left to worry are the electronic parts. Any idea?
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QUOTE(webboy @ Apr 3 2012, 01:16 PM)
Ooh, ic. I dunno bimmer maintenance is almost like camry. All the while i heard ppl said the maintenance, wear and tear is crazy...
Since u r the owner of the e60 525 and claimed that the maintenance is reasonable, i may reconsider looking into bimmer in future.
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Hi bro, maybe you could shed some light to some of us here? Im looking into old E46 as well atm. Read up on some on the maintenance part like eg: engine mounting, absorber, gearbox, bushes and so on. I'm surprise it's not like the few times expensive as claimed by someone. The only part left to worry are the electronic parts. Any idea?
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My comparison are base on a recond E60 and the current camry which still having warranty.

After we took the E60... as always... the sales person will tell u already service and everything.. after a month.. problem came up. the brake pad is finishing til the metal scraping sound appear and engine oil running low. So i went to a workshop which is service mostly conti cars. he seems knows very well i think becoz there are too much e60 around lol..

So he suggest changing engine oil to a thicker ones a semi sync, front and back brake pads (originals are from bosch) and he checked there are 2 or 3 sensor have to replace( each sensor are just 60 - 70) and the aircond fan belt which crack like are showing.. all in only around 2k with workmanship

What most important is u need to search around for good and reliable workshop where the boss knows what he is doing. The car till now are running fine (Touch wood!!)

For camry i only send to UMW service center.. so whatever things u did there will be expensive.. i remember the front brake pads are around 5xx exclude workmanship. Btw... i help my brother to collect his current gen polo from VW service center.. 1 of the spark plug miss fired and need to be replaces.. it cost me 100 to just change 1 spark plug. imagine u having major service lol

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My comparison are base on a recond E60 and the current camry which still having warranty.

After we took the E60... as always... the sales person will tell u already service and everything.. after a month.. problem came up. the brake pad is finishing til the metal scraping sound appear and engine oil running low. So i went to a workshop which is service mostly conti cars. he seems knows very well i think becoz there are too much e60 around lol..

So he suggest changing engine oil to a thicker ones a semi sync, front and back brake pads (originals are from bosch) and he checked there are 2 or 3 sensor have to replace( each sensor are just 60 - 70) and the aircond fan belt which crack like are showing.. all in only around 2k with workmanship

What most important is u need to search around for good and reliable workshop where the boss knows what he is doing. The car till now are running fine (Touch wood!!)

For camry i only send to UMW service center.. so whatever things u did there will be expensive.. i remember the front brake pads are around 5xx exclude workmanship. Btw... i help my brother to collect his current gen polo from VW service center.. 1 of the spark plug miss fired and need to be replaces.. it cost me 100 to just change 1 spark plug. imagine u having major service lol

hope the information above help
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bro mind sharing me the workshop location? It's for me to do scouting and go kepo. Yup bringing back to the original SC = cut throat but what to do... for the warranty. sounds reasonable but why not fully syn?
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I do not know how true it is... he claims that because i bought a japan spec so the tuning from germany are according to the weather there.. where japan are mostly cold weather and here are hot as hell.. so full sync are thin oil plus our weather which will confuse the sensor. so a semi sync around 10-40 is good enough..

the workshop is around my area bro in kota kemuning
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Thank you Thank you. Kota Kemuning whch part? You know the workshop name? hehe
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yes please, eng88, im looking for a workshop familiar with bmw in kota kemuning.

pls share with me your contact too. thanks.
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QUOTE(eng98 @ Apr 3 2012, 02:37 PM)

Btw... i help my brother to collect his current gen polo from VW service center.. 1 of the spark plug miss fired and need to be replaces.. it cost me 100 to just change 1 spark plug. imagine u having major service lol

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Out of curiosity, why didn't your brother send in his Polo to claim warranty? I had 3 cyclinder misfire and the service center (Wearnes Sg Besi) changed my 4 coil packs and 4 spark plugs for the my Golf TSI. I didn't even have to pay a single cent.
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Apr 3 2012, 03:43 PM)
Out of curiosity, why didn't your brother send in his Polo to claim warranty? I had 3 cyclinder misfire and the service center (Wearnes Sg Besi) changed my 4 coil packs and 4 spark plugs for the my Golf TSI. I didn't even have to pay a single cent.
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My bro always send to the 1 next to ldp... I did ask the sa why is not under warranty he give me some bull shit excuse like wear n tear.. wtf but I no time to negotiate so I just pay n go... but if they change all n charge me full amount I.would gladly argue with them lol

And btw guys the workshop at kemuning call clove garage same as bubble wash
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My bro always send to the 1 next to ldp... I did ask the sa why is not under warranty he give me some bull shit excuse like wear n tear.. wtf but I no time to negotiate so I just pay n go... but if they change all n charge me full amount I.would gladly argue with them lol

And btw guys the workshop at kemuning call clove garage same as bubble wash
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Cergaz? Hrm next time tell your brother that it can be claimed under warranty. Just need to state your case.
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Ok noted... thanks for the tips
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I too considered the S60. It has good specs, good exterior design but poor interior. Plus warranty is the standard 3 yrs. I also had a look at the Audi A4 1.8Turbo but interior not spacious and it has a crap rear middle raised seat which makes it impossible to seat 3 adults at the back. Also had a look at the Merc C200 CGI but at RM 265K, it was too uncle'ish for my taste.

So ive dropped back down to the Kia Optima K5. At only RM 143,888 it has among the best specs around. Beats many 2.4L cars out there. Comfy seats and good mid range power. Plus it comes with 5 years warranty (unlimited mileage) and has the wow factor. Even if i dump it after 5 years, it will be fine as it only cost me sub RM 144K which is about 100K cheaper than the S60.
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yea. K5 had the best gadgets with its price.. But did you notice that the front seat ceiling is tooo lonw and the steering wheel often hits your legs and dashboard is too high too even see the road. Untill today my family and i are still undecided which car to get. sad.gif
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yea. K5 had the best gadgets with its price.. But did you notice that the front seat ceiling is tooo lonw and the steering wheel often hits your legs and dashboard is too high too even see the road. Untill today my family and i are still undecided which car to get. sad.gif
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as i've suggested before, the Ford Mondeo, have you ever test drive it yet?
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as i've suggested before, the Ford Mondeo, have you ever test drive it yet?
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That's a great car smile.gif
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is it possible to get an A6 '08 FOUR DOOR at just slightly below RM200k? Because my friend, a car dealer is giving a special price of the A6 '08 coupe at RM190k. But i'm looking for a famoly car. sad.gif he just imported in. What a waste it wasn't four door.
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The A6 is a four door. Unless you mean A5? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Apr 10 2012, 04:41 PM)
yea. K5 had the best gadgets with its price.. But did you notice that the front seat ceiling is tooo lonw and the steering wheel often hits your legs and dashboard is too high too even see the road. Untill today my family and i are still undecided which car to get. sad.gif
Im about 6 feet tall and i never had any problem with the ceiling height or the steering wheel. Have u adjusted the front driver's seat down? Dash board being too high is 1 small issue. No such thing as perfect car. Go for whats important: specs, safety, comfort, handling, price.
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as i've suggested before, the Ford Mondeo, have you ever test drive it yet?
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haha. Yes we have! The car was flying. One powerful car. We've already decided mondeo also because it's the biggest car in terms of height length n width compared to any other. Until my friend the car dealer said it's really difficult for him to sell ford cars, resale value bad.. Malaysians can't accept ford. He sells car like lexus, Audi, bmw.. The passat is so ridiculous to manually fold in mirrors at that price tag! So embarassing to fold it!
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as i've suggested before, the Ford Mondeo, have you ever test drive it yet?
The only thing that makes the Mondeo stand out among its competitors is its power. But the main drawback is its design. Thats the main reason why the Mondeo's sales have been very poor in Malaysia.
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The A6 is a four door. Unless you mean A5? biggrin.gif
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it was an A6 two door.. I saw well, if im not wrong.. Probably they have both two door and four. biggrin.gif how much is a brand new A6?
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haha. Yes we have! The car was flying. One powerful car. We've already decided mondeo also because it's the biggest car in terms of height length n width compared to any other. Until my friend the car dealer said it's really difficult for him to sell ford cars, resale value bad.. Malaysians can't accept ford. He sells car like lexus, Audi, bmw.. The passat is so ridiculous to manually fold in mirrors at that price tag! So embarassing to fold it!
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The only thing that makes the Mondeo stand out among its competitors is its power. But the main drawback is its design. Thats the main reason why the Mondeo's sales have been very poor in Malaysia.
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it's design is VERY GOOD. it's the best looking car in it's range. i don't know about u but 10 out of 10 ppl who saw one in the flesh will say the Mondeo is a really handsome car, pictures doesn't do it justice. if u don't care about resale value, it's a freaking good car to own
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it's design is VERY GOOD.  it's the best looking car in it's range.  i don't know about u but 10 out of 10 ppl who saw one in the flesh will say the Mondeo is a really handsome car, pictures doesn't do it justice.  if u don't care about resale value, it's a freaking good car to own
For the extra power, would you pay RM 36K more than say an Optima? I wouldnt for sure. Not sure about the others.

Korean cars resale value will be better than the Mondeo. Resale values are demand driven. When initial sales are very poor, resale values will be equally poor.

Im not sure where u got your 10/10 ppl statistic from but from what ive heard, its the general view that the Mondeo's design has no wow factor especially the rear. How else would you explain the poor sales for the Mondeo? How many units are actually sold monthly?

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For the extra power, would you pay RM 36K more than say an Optima? I wouldnt for sure. Not sure about the others.

Korean cars resale value will be better than the Mondeo. Resale values are demand driven. When initial sales are very poor, resale values will be equally poor.

Im not sure where u got your 10/10 ppl statistic from but from what ive heard, its the general view that the Mondeo's design has no wow factor especially the rear. How else would you explain the poor sales for the Mondeo? How many units are actually sold monthly?
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no offense but i also don't know where u got your "general view", if ppl say the Mondeo has no "wow factor", what about all those toyotas and hondas which are boring to look at and boring to drive? I know ppl don't buy jap cars for their looks (mostly) but for their resale value, but if u put it aside, there really isn't anything "wow" about jap cars except their incredible boring-ness and a statement that says:" hey i'm already middle aged, have no passion for life anymore, waiting to die, that's why I buy an Altis"

anyway about resale value, u r correct but it's not because of the design, it's because of Malaysian mentality and also bad product branding effect.
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no offense but i also don't know where u got your "general view", if ppl say the Mondeo has no "wow factor", what about all those toyotas and hondas which are boring to look at and boring to drive?  I know ppl don't buy jap cars for their looks (mostly) but for their resale value, but if u put it aside, there really isn't anything "wow" about jap cars except their incredible boring-ness and a statement that says:" hey i'm already middle aged, have no passion for life anymore, waiting to die, that's why I buy an Altis"

anyway about resale value, u r correct but it's not because of the design, it's because of Malaysian mentality and also bad product branding effect.
Well i dont support the Japs anymore. I think they are taking Malaysians for a ride and we should boycott Toyota and Honda.

As for the resale value, the Malaysian mentality stigma affects the Koreans more but how is that Korean makes are doing quite well? The Forte sales has even eclipsed the sales of the Altis. Hyundai Sonata is also doing ok (but still poor compared to other Japs & the Optima). Optima sales are picking up too. 5829 Forte's were sold in 2011 while 2928 Sonata's were sold in that same year.

Do you actually think the Mondeo is doing badly only because of poor branding? I doubt. hmm.gif

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Do you actually think the Mondeo is doing badly only because of poor branding? I doubt.  hmm.gif
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Yerp. Many people avoid to buy conti car because of resale value perception and expensive spare part.
Ford Mondeo is great car imo but not many people willing to take risk by buying it.

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Well i dont support the Japs anymore. I think they are taking Malaysians for a ride and we should boycott Toyota and Honda.

As for the resale value, the Malaysian mentality stigma affects the Koreans more but how is that Korean makes are doing quite well? The Forte sales has even eclipsed the sales of the Altis. Hyundai Sonata is also doing ok (but still poor compared to other Japs & the Optima). Optima sales are picking up too. 5829 Forte's were sold in 2011 while 2928 Sonata's were sold in that same year.

Do you actually think the Mondeo is doing badly only because of poor branding? I doubt.  hmm.gif
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they r not doing enough to promote the brand and boost consumer confidence, the korean brands are doing great at these 2 aspects all over the world, that's why they are taking over the market (of what the japs were controlling). so u still doubt?

most ppl who buys ford knows what great cars they are making and they really appreciates what they are spending their money on

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My family and i are looking for a new car in a month time with a price RM200k but we don't know which car to get. It doesn't matter a sedan or suv. May be you guys can help me which.. and why. We're looking for a 1.8L and above. so the peugeot 508 is out. We've seen the vw passat and the kia optima.. or course if you're gonna tell me mazda6.. the model's kinda old isn't it. will there we any new car launching in a month plus time?
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my cousin got into this situation of company forcing u to get a better car for image..

he drove Altis.. but boss say ur rank so high.. get better car.. end up he got a E Class benz.. within 6 months.. his wife drove the benz.. give ppl kiss the backside.. total damage to the pocket.. 10k for the buttock.. LOL.. he also R O F L..

anyway... under 200k i'd say something german.. K5 is nice.. but the roofline of Paccat CC already turns me off.. my height is around 176cm tho.. and i feel very cramp inside d.. especially the headroom.. when ur not comfortable with it.. don go with it.. end of story.. it all depends on ur choices really.. we are here to guide u and explain to u.. but money and choices is urs truly.. =)
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my cousin got into this situation of company forcing u to get a better car for image..

he drove Altis.. but boss say ur rank so high.. get better car.. end up he got a E Class benz.. within 6 months.. his wife drove the benz.. give ppl kiss the backside.. total damage to the pocket.. 10k for the buttock.. LOL.. he also R O F L..

anyway... under 200k i'd say something german.. K5 is nice.. but the roofline of Paccat CC already turns me off.. my height is around 176cm tho.. and i feel very cramp inside d.. especially the headroom.. when ur not comfortable with it.. don go with it.. end of story.. it all depends on ur choices really.. we are here to guide u and explain to u.. but money and choices is urs truly.. =)
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errr....there is something horribly wrong with your story about your friend's Benz being kissed on the backside, i'm asking this because you said "total damage to the pocket.. 10k for the buttock" and i'm assuming your friend paid for the repairs. if i misunderstood, i apologize but if i didn't then here comes a (some) question(s):

......there is something called insurance if you've never heard of it. and if your company "force you" to get a better car, isn't the company paying for the car? I'm not saying your friend (or you) are stupid, but if it's me, if company "forces me" to buy an expensive piece of show off (for the company's "image"), i would ask the company (and myself) is the company paying for everything including damages, repairs, bla bla bla, everything? if i buy it for the company's "image" and i have to pay a penny on the car, i would have rejected the generous "offer" from the company. and did i mention there is a thing called "insurance"? i won't pay 10 cents for the repairs because i (or the company) paid the insurance company to do it's job.

just curious, no offense meant.
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Volvo S60 T5 or T6. Full of impressive safety features yet powerful engine.
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Seconded. Should really test drive the s60. I would say its the most underrated luxury car in Malaysia currently. I don't know why Malaysians tend to steer away from this car. Probably it's because of the resale value or service centers? I have seen a few s60s on the road, but they were driven by ang mohs.
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I wonder if TS oledi decided which car he gonna get.
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haha! Hi, i haven't.. biggrin.gif i still regularly visit the site to know more abt cars.. My friend (car dealer) just mentioned to me about him importing a few new cars asking if i liked them.. One of em' is lexus GS, Audi A6, merc C-Class, Audi A4.. Of course i'd like to her from you guys first.. smile.gif i have less than a month left.. The reason why is because of the plate no. Thats why i'm in such a hurry. My initial! smile.gif


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Whatever car you choose make sure you test drive it first . I would choose a japanese vehicle because that are usually more reliable than European .
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yeah due to it's resale value and servise? Other conti cars seem pretty good as well, i don't know why it doesn't hit the mas market.


Added on April 14, 2012, 12:05 ammany of you guys did mention about the kia K5, well.. I've already thought of it, it's out of the picture.. The reason why is because i felt uncomfortable with the car height ceiling and dashboard, i must admit, the K5 is a super nice car, but everything feels cheap.. Like the passat, although the specs are so stupid, like the non memory seats, non auto folding wing mirrors, manual seat adjustmnt.. It felt expensive. Just an example, no offence.. Just my point of view. Everyone differs..

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Do you actually think the Mondeo is doing badly only because of poor branding? I doubt.  hmm.gif
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Resale value, few SC, not so good SC, expensive spare parts, and it is really rare (in Malaysia).

Ford isn't doing that bad elsewhere. I'd say 30-40% of the cars where I live (when I'm in Germany) are Fords. Admittedly it's also because there are many Ford employees here, it's where the Mondeo for example was developed. Basically it's a German car, even if the badge is from America.

Anyway I have the feeling VW is doing a lot in terms of service, which is one of the reasons why they are doing so well here (well... for a conti).

I think the most underrated luxury car is the Skoda Superb (yeah, the name is... ambitious). If you consider the S60 luxury already... to me that would start with the S80... also S class, perhaps C6 (even though it's more of a E class competitor), 7 series is also luxury car.
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QUOTE(wirefly @ Apr 13 2012, 11:41 PM)
many of you guys did mention about the kia K5, well.. I've already thought of it, it's out of the picture.. The reason why is because i felt uncomfortable with the car height ceiling and dashboard, i must admit, the K5 is a super nice car, but everything feels cheap.. Like the passat, although the specs are so stupid, like the non memory seats, non auto folding wing mirrors, manual seat adjustmnt.. It felt expensive. Just an example, no offence.. Just my point of view. Everyone differs..
I think the K5 looks more classier than the Passat 1.8. Drive both cars past a roadside restaurant full of ppl and see which car gets the most attention. (i know cuz ive seen it happen). The Passat doesnt have any wow factor and any interest in the car is solely due to the badge and nothing else. It does have a better engine and transmission but i wouldnt wanna drive a car that makes me feel old and dull.

And yes the plastics on the Optima arent top class for sure but which would be more important for you? Top class specs & safety features or a better dashboard? Given a choice, ill go for the specs and in this case the Optima stands head and shoulders above its other D segment competitors.

The Optima has much better specs, a really well designed exterior and its a CBU vs the CKD Passat. On top of it all, the Optima is about RM27K cheaper. So for a 27K cheaper car, i think getting an interior thats slightly cheapo looking isnt too hard to swallow. The Optima also comes with a 5 yr unlimited mileage manufacturer's warranty so the question about durability can be put to rest.

The Optima may not win in all criterias but its generally a better car than most of its competitors for the price you are paying. But then again, for a Korean make to be actually compared to a VW, is a statement by itself dont u think? nod.gif

Btw, after 5 months of detailed analysis across a range of cars and 9 test drives, i finally booked the Kia Optima yesterday.

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if i have that much of cash, out of those choices of k5, mondeo, i would take passat>mondeo>k5.

what i looking for is comfort more than wow factor. and passat can offer that plus very good mechanic, and it actually looking quite good too.

and also, its a very personal pov, maybe some one felt the k5/mondeo is better...

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Apr 14 2012, 09:37 AM)
if i have that much of cash, out of those choices of k5, mondeo, i would take passat>mondeo>k5.

what i looking for is comfort more than wow factor. and passat can offer that plus very good mechanic, and it actually looking quite good too.

and also, its a very personal pov, maybe some one felt the k5/mondeo is better...
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haha. We're same! The passat made me feel like a boss more than the k5. Anyway, passat is more like an evergreen car, so currently K5 is actaully more stylish.


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cars.. My friend (car dealer) just mentioned to me about him
importing a few new cars asking if i liked them.. One of em' is
lexus GS, Audi A6, merc C-Class, Audi A4.. Of course i'd like to
her from you guys first.. i have less than a month left.. The
reason why is because of the plate no. Thats why i'm in such a
hurry. My initial!"

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QUOTE(wirefly @ Apr 14 2012, 08:45 AM)
haha. We're same! The passat made me feel like a boss more than the k5. Anyway, passat is more like an evergreen car, so currently K5 is actaully more stylish.
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lol, nice to hear that smile.gif

style is not very important for me as it will phase out/outdate.

since korean are now very "brave" at the design, i doubt it's style would last very long.. hehe

but seriously, i dont like the k5 design, but i still love forte design, i would still choose the car based on my comfort rather than eye candy.

see, depending on personal pov


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"haha! Hi, i haven't.. i still regularly visit the site to know more abt
cars.. My friend (car dealer) just mentioned to me about him
importing a few new cars asking if i liked them.. One of em' is
lexus GS, Audi A6, merc C-Class, Audi A4.. Of course i'd like to
her from you guys first.. i have less than a month left.. The
reason why is because of the plate no. Thats why i'm in such a
hurry. My initial!"
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Audi A6 sound very nice laugh.gif

i know that rushing feel bro.. haha~ cant sleep wink.gif

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Apr 14 2012, 09:49 AM)
lol, nice to hear that smile.gif

style is not very important for me as it will phase out/outdate.

since korean are now very "brave" at the design, i doubt it's style would last very long.. hehe

but seriously, i dont like the k5 design, but i still love forte design, i would still choose the car based on my comfort rather than eye candy.

see, depending on personal pov


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Audi A6 sound very nice  laugh.gif

i know that rushing feel bro.. haha~ cant sleep  wink.gif
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yesssss! Very! the A6 is the model before.. sad.gif not the current one that has just recently launched. I'm gonna use this car for long term.. :/ do you know anything abt the cars?
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yesssss! Very! the A6 is the model before.. sad.gif not the current one that has just recently launched. I'm gonna use this car for long term.. :/ do you know anything abt the cars?
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aiyah, thought the new A6..

haha, conti car dont know much la, im just using small car.. sweat.gif
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aiyah, thought the new A6..

haha, conti car dont know much la, im just using small car..  sweat.gif
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haha, the new A6 would easily cost 400k. I'm at 200k, my friend's giving me a special discount. The A6 i'm talking abt is 2010 model.
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haha, the new A6 would easily cost 400k. I'm at 200k, my friend's giving me a special discount. The A6 i'm talking abt is 2010 model.
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is better getting a new car mah~ test drive passat already?
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is better getting a new car mah~ test drive passat already?
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definately! But the problem with the passat is, at a pricetag of 185k, the wing mirror are manual-fold, seats manual adjuctment semi auto, no memory seats.. And more. I think it's more an branding. sad.gif everyone seem to like the A6 more than the Lexus GS.


Added on April 14, 2012, 9:11 am"haha! Hi, i haven't.. i still regularly visit the site to know more abt
cars.. My friend (car dealer) just mentioned to me about him
importing a few new cars asking if i liked them.. One of em' is
lexus GS, Audi A6, merc C-Class, Audi A4.. Of course i'd like to
her from you guys first.. i have less than a month left.. The
reason why is because of the plate no. Thats why i'm in such a
hurry. My initial!"

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Went for a Passat test drive with my friend about a month ago. The CBU Passat is actually the same price as the CKD Passat. The VW in Taman Tun is giving discounts for the 2011 CBU Passat. However, the CKD version is only available few months later.
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Went for a Passat test drive with my friend about a month ago. The CBU Passat is actually the same price as the CKD Passat. The VW in Taman Tun is giving discounts for the 2011 CBU Passat. However, the CKD version is only available few months later.
Huh? What la u saying? The CKD Passat is approx RM170K only. CBU is about RM20K more.
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Huh? What la u saying? The CKD Passat is approx RM170K only. CBU is about RM20K more.
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he could be saying the price for 2011 CBU passat model. the price is arnd the new CKD passat model after the discount.
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Huh? What la u saying? The CKD Passat is approx RM170K only. CBU is about RM20K more.
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I'm saying exactly what I'm saying.

Don't look at figures posted on websites and brochures. Ask the Sales Personnel. The 2011 CBU Passat after discount comes very close to the price of the new CKD Passat.

It's ready stock for the CBU, but you got to wait for the CKD.
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citroen c5
http://paultan.org/2007/10/19/new-citroen-c5/
http://www.citroen.com.my/images/C5_PriceList.pdf
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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Apr 14 2012, 05:25 PM)
I'm saying exactly what I'm saying.

Don't look at figures posted on websites and brochures. Ask the Sales Personnel. The 2011 CBU Passat after discount comes very close to the price of the new CKD Passat.

It's ready stock for the CBU, but you got to wait for the CKD.
Yes u meant the 2011 model. If you had reworded your sentence it would have been easier to understand.

For example instead of saying 'the CBU Passat is actually the same price as the CKD Passat. The VW in Taman Tun is giving discounts for the 2011 CBU Passat'

You could have said 'the 2011 CBU Passat is actually the same price as the 2012 CKD Passat after the discounts being offered by VW TTDI'.

Nothing wrong but i understand now. Thanks! Yes i heard about the discounts too when i was looking at the Passat CC. They also sold a 2011 Jetta which was in poor condition. Even with scratches on the car. Interior speaker cover also broken. Car interior quite dirty. Not sure who bought but i heard he only got a 10K discount.



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We've finally pretty much made up our mind!! It's either the Audi A4 or the Mercedes C-Class.. Don't know which..
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We've finally pretty much made up our mind!! It's either the Audi A4 or the Mercedes C-Class..  Don't know which..
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Hmmmm....both cars have lesser interior space as compare to d segment car of japs and koreans...
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