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zeone	Apr 11 2012, 10:36 PM Return to original view \| Post #81
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	ps. Bro Eric's BLM no ABS. Same for FLs. IINM only FLXs got & that only hi end ones. Added on April 11, 2012, 10:43 pmpps. Rear Drum Brakes sounds common knowledge now cos mechs@SC here up north oledi kno of prob. However, no memos fr HQ yet of permanent cure. Mech also showed me 2 units of wat were supposed 2b fr taken out fr CVTs 2replace prob ones. White cylindrical plastic housing, longish with spring...CVT clutch/pump? Quite big units. Added on April 11, 2012, 11:14 pmppps. ABS/EBD with NO warning lights of failure? Thot wld b std in meter panels of such fitted cars. Savings on such necessities? Then hving such features wld b like hving NONE!! Cos driving car with FAILED ABS = Driving car w/o ABS!! Kinda dangerous, rite? This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 11 2012, 11:17 PM
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zeone	Apr 11 2012, 11:32 PM Return to original view \| Post #82
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(koh_424 @ Apr 11 2012, 11:18 PM) Goodnite folks...keep the thread move! If this thread moves w/o anyone arnd, then this thread is HAUNTED!!! Gnite2...
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 03:30 AM Return to original view \| Post #83
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(molarism @ Apr 12 2012, 02:36 AM) Hye bro, Please put my name on the 1.3 FLX list. molarism \| Solid White \| Manual \| Exec Before this my car got TAk TAK sound brake issue. Then go to SC they change to saga blm brake shoe. I don't know if blm and flx use same brake shoe. So far that sound has gone. Can drive my saga with a smiling face now hahaha Oh? FLX uses diff brake shoes fr BLM/FL? New Vendor? And if true, probably in same ole BLM/FL Drums? Yup, "not good fit" cld b probable cause of noise!! ps. Yup, me had2 get up fr peaceful slumber! Heavy rain caused flash flood along our road...into porch!! With more rain, wld enter car...not insured for flood!! Moved my precious Saga to higher ground liao... Added on April 12, 2012, 3:33 am QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 12 2012, 01:57 AM) - World ends in 21 December - Problem permanently solved. funny shit.... Yup, real funneee watever..... Added on April 12, 2012, 4:03 amOT... Dmn Local Council ppl +/- State Govt for simply approving new housing dev w/o proper planning for Water Drainage Control!!! All water fr surrounding new areas (filled up & raised to higher level) now flowing into our area! Nxt GE hv2 change XXX.... This post has been edited by zeone*: Apr 12 2012, 04:03 AM
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 06:53 PM Return to original view \| Post #84
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	Bros... Need help 2figure this one out... Can a 2009 Saga BLM 1.3 Manual do this : Car in hse porch. Driver engaged Reverse gear. Started reversing. Saw somethin on floor. Opened door 2try pick up item. Car suddenly shot backwards! Banged closed gate. Driver in panic grabbed gate. Fell out of car. Car continued REVERSING across 20ft road ( NO Driver in car now!) while turning to right! Stopped on opposite soft loose soil land...soft water-laden soil cos of heavy rain last nite. Stopped in parallel position abt 5+ ft after road edge!! Now the mystery is... How did the BLM (Manual!!) move in reverse gear across the 20ft road WITHOUT a Driver!! Being a MT car, it shld hv stopped when Driver fell out of car! Over 2yu Bros.... ps. This is a TRUE incident. Happened juz this morning. Me = Witness. This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 12 2012, 06:58 PM
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 07:11 PM Return to original view \| Post #85
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(koh_424 @ Apr 12 2012, 07:03 PM) 1st, the car start to reverse slowly according to ur statement. Meaning tat the driver slowly release clutch to let the reverse gear engage. 2nd, the gear have engage & ur fren open door to pick up item from floor. Mayb cause him accidentally stepped on the gas pedal causing the car shot backward immediately. 3rd, after the driver felt off from the car while leaving the car engine ON. The GB gear already full engage without depends on the clutch, so it can run on it ownself without any driver control the gear. Manual still can go on without driver if the gear is fully engage without engine cut off. PS: Correct me if i m wrong. Reverse Gear is very LOW(?) gear, rite? Wld that not hv killed the engine very fast? Esp when clutch & accelerator pedal is released? Juz like wld hv happened in First gear? All ppl present were surprised that the car moved so far... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 12 2012, 07:12 PM
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 08:18 PM Return to original view \| Post #86
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 12 2012, 07:14 PM) You sure the car was moving under power, not coasting or anything? Yup, car movin under power. An Indon maid outside nxt opp hse screamed & ran away in fright when car on the run reversed towards her that fast!! There were 3 other witnesses besides me. Me shot 1 guy down when he said that Proton cars like dat wan...anything can happen & can go wrong! Told him off that my present car also Proton with my earlier one 20+ yrs with no such problems!!
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 08:23 PM Return to original view \| Post #87
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Apr 12 2012, 07:28 PM) this happen while engine temp is still 1 bar? cause at 1 st bar, idling is at 1.2k rpm.... Shld be @1st or most 2nd bar cos juz very short time after starting... Din chk after it happened cos bz trying 2help Driver.
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 08:26 PM Return to original view \| Post #88
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Apr 12 2012, 07:55 PM) still in delivery. posted on tuesday and from pos tracking system, still at bukit mertajam he said it should be delivered in 3-5 days Happy 2hear yr bulk door seals on the way!! Enjoy DIY-ing on arrival!!! And, of course, all the testing...opening & closing of so many many doors!!
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 08:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #89
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 12 2012, 08:23 PM) Definitely possible to let it run without accelerator/clutch on 1st gear,specially BLM 1st gear is extremely low. It happens when u release the clutch slowly until the engine RPM generate enuf torque to keep the car running under vacuum(covered this topic during last TT back in March). For BLM, most probably the engine will not stall on 1st/2nd gear running without accelerator. Me rber ole VW & Colt cars (other cars of past years) wld stall if lift foot off accelerator... Dat's why most ppl @dat incident or came 2ask cld NOT believe car cld reverse that far on its own... Btw cld it be due2 BLM's DBW accelerator system? Driver in panic pushed flat down accelerator pedal; ECU gets signal fr DBW module AND MPI responding, resulting in enuf fuel injected 2keep car moving & thus engine NOT stalled? This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 12 2012, 08:36 PM
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 08:42 PM Return to original view \| Post #90
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Apr 12 2012, 08:34 PM) thanks bro.. i'm excited to enjoy an improved ride comfort did u added door soundproof for ur car? Nope. Did so for ole ride. Found results not significant & thus not worth $$$ & effort put in sticking those thick bitumen/aluminium coated sheets onto door interior panels. So dun wanna do 4FL now.
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zeone	Apr 12 2012, 11:34 PM Return to original view \| Post #91
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	Hi Bros... Juz 2say TQ very much & much appreciate all yr conments/views re "auto-pilot" incident of BLM on reverse gear. Conclusion: Such "auto-pilot" antics by BLM & siblings are "non-humanly" possible!! Gnite, all! ps. Raining heavily agin!! Hope no flash floods.... Added on April 12, 2012, 11:40 pmpps. Total cost of repair for "auto-pilot" BLM quoted by knock shop is RM1200!! Incl complete change of whole Driver door "casing", knocking of dented parts & respray of metallic paintwork. Time needed : 5-6 days. Expensive test of BLM "auto-pilot" feature!! This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 12 2012, 11:40 PM
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zeone	Apr 13 2012, 11:05 AM Return to original view \| Post #92
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(lhwj @ Apr 13 2012, 08:37 AM) I wished you recorded it but it must have happened very fast Reverse gear is very low. Even lower than first gear, I think. I can easily move forward in first gear or reverse just by releasing the clutch without touching the accelerator. Yup, VERY fast!! Within few secs! Couple on morning walk shocked 2see car cross road w/o driver!! Husband in couple condemned Plotong QC!! All this while, thought only AT car can move in gear BUT MT car wld stall once let go accelerator pedal...esp in 1st/Rev gear... Guess me very wrong liao!! We live We learn, rite? This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 13 2012, 11:08 AM
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zeone	Apr 13 2012, 11:23 AM Return to original view \| Post #93
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(jenli_84 @ Apr 13 2012, 11:08 AM) how much to change saga absober? i heard saga abs is gas only? Yu edited yr post? Earlier one was correct!!
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 03:21 PM Return to original view \| Post #94
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Apr 14 2012, 03:13 PM) just attached a sun visor today, but got little tiny holes left. bubbles actually. will it dry up by itself after under the sun for a few days? and be smooth? =D Sun visor? Yu mean dark tinted strip on top part of w/screen? Yup, if very tiny bubbles, may disappear after few days. However, good skilled worker no got bubbles...
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 10:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #95
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	Help, Bros.... Juz now me had my very own FIRST prob with my 1.3 FL Auto!! Wanted 2go out 4dinner. Turned ignition key. Engine cranked. But engine failed to start! Tried agin & agin a few times...Failed. Horn, lights, all ok. Voltmeter showed 12.2V Paused for a couple mins. Tried a few more times. Engine then started after a long crank... But died by itself. Paused agin for longer period. A few more cranks. Finally started running after a long crank! Ran smoothly...like no prob b4 that! Took car out for drive arnd Taman. Smooth drive. Came home & turned off engine. Then tried re-starting. Normal start!! Phew.... Pls...pls... Any ideas wat cld be the prob? Really stumped with new Saga systems. Advice really badly needed. Dunno wat/how to chk... Fear me might be stranded... TQ very much in adv.
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 11:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #96
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(cuteyman @ Apr 14 2012, 10:57 PM) do you put standby about 3-4 sec before turn to ignition key? Yup, each time alwaz waited for airbag warning lamp 2go out first b4 cranking engine.
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 11:24 PM Return to original view \| Post #97
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(cuteyman @ Apr 14 2012, 11:08 PM) maybe your battery old edy..last time happen to me ..engine cranking long time before start..after changing my 3 years old battery ..ok edy..eventhough i check the voltage using multimeter still full.. Battery juz 1 yr old... However, din use car past 2 days...
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 11:27 PM Return to original view \| Post #98
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 14 2012, 11:09 PM) Saga is Drive-By-Wire, stepping on pedal before car starts does nothing. Yup, me kno dat. User Manual also advises against pressing accelerator pedal when starting car. Added on April 14, 2012, 11:29 pmps. Tks a meg, Bro Eric & davidke20, for possible causes & advice... This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 14 2012, 11:29 PM
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 11:41 PM Return to original view \| Post #99
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 14 2012, 11:09 PM) Could be engine timing. But only if the engine was rough. Me : Dun think it's engine timing cos engine ran smoothly after it finally started. My advise, if it doesn't start on the first few cranks, be more careful, as each time u on and off the car, the fuel pump pumps petrol into the engine. You may flood the engine if you pump too often and the car doesn't start. Me : A probable side effect? Cos me did try 2crank a few times one after another, even follow normal proc of switching off & wait 4airbag lamp 2go off. Other than that, you may want to check the regulars, like engine oil, starter etc. I've also had similar problems, but very rarely. Still unable to pinpoint the exact cause, but it may be caused by a slightly weakened battery. Me: So far those items no prob. Slightly weakened battery? Another probable cause. Car not used for past 2 days. Tks a meg, Bro!! Will know for sure if no prob starting 2moro morning. Me also suspect petrol @ last fill-up. Will go top up with different brand 2moro. Was stumped cos no prob starting car all this time...
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zeone	Apr 14 2012, 11:46 PM Return to original view \| Post #100
A Friend... Senior Member 784 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Rice Bowl of Msia	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 14 2012, 11:31 PM) Oh D I U.. didn't mentioned few days didn't start. Then its NOT ENOUGH FUEL instead of wet sparkplug la. In that case, terbalik la. Car had been left b4 w/o moving for even 3-4 days. However, nvr had such starting prob... Only this time.
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