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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.15, Get your D800/D4 now !

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post Apr 4 2012, 12:01 PM

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woah racist. . . black series but the car is in white!!!
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post Apr 4 2012, 12:58 PM

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what I am the big picture?
D700 raw files are around 20mb only =.=
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post Apr 7 2012, 07:15 PM

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hope Nikon would really sorted that out and improve their QC on the D800.
planning to get one by mid of May. Hopefully there will be adequate stocks and price would be stabilized and cheaper by then.
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post Apr 10 2012, 05:28 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 9 2012, 11:32 PM)
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Suzuki, The 33rd Bangkok International Motor Show 2012 by CY Pixels, on Flickr

Da love hand sign seems to be really popular in Bangkok... tongue.gif
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no la, you misunderstood. This is ''take out an apple from my armpit for you'' sign laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Apr 11 2012, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Apr 11 2012, 01:39 AM)
i mean the "view" inside viewfinder.... its like vibrate up and down for a little bit. sometimes when hitting shutter, and sometimes when not hitting the shutter..
this nvr happen since i bought it.... but then suddenly out of nowhere this thing happens...
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what model are you using?
I suppose you are most likely using an entry level body?
If so, the pentamirror in your body might have come loose and thus vibrates when there's movement. Pentamirror is structured by few peices of mirrors unlike pentaprism which is a huge block of glass, therefore, it might be possible one or some of the mirrors have come loose.


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post Apr 12 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 12 2012, 08:51 PM)

I find that reply funny. It's like asking why do you need perfect vision for your eyes... It's because I like to see things correctly !

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hahaha yeah man, another similar analogy why bother setting WB since only you see the photo. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 12 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(iloveOov @ Apr 12 2012, 09:25 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Photography rule no.108 : No clothes on models when they're in the bath tub. tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 12 2012, 10:08 PM)
Putting that aside... I'm anticipating for your images from Bangkok... wanna see full size too... D800's 36MP glory!

My friend just came back from China with shots taken on his D800... doesn't look impressive sad.gif I'm losing interest... come on let me see some great stuff.
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it's depends on the user behind the camera
great tools must meet with great hands. flex.gif flex.gif


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post Apr 12 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 12 2012, 10:12 PM)
Let's see what jchue73 has from Bangkok... cause I've been to the same event with my D700... so more or less can compare what's the image quality like from the D800.
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actually the difference on screen is subtle la. . . unless you have two identical frame of shots taken with the cameras
it's only when you print a large final image that can you can appreciate the improvement the new camera gives you, even then it depends what are you shooting.

but of cos, other than the IQ, there's many new added features for the better experience of the photographers that final images can't tell.

if one just show a 2MP picture I bet no one can tell it's a D800 from a D700. It's doesn't do magic or makes a picture taken with an already amazing D700 suddenly look incomparable.
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 12 2012, 10:31 PM)
Just interested for the image quality, not the additional features.

Do you have a D800? Side note, haven't seen u posting pix before. Share la some smile.gif
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i posted once tongue.gif . . . have been busy preparing my for my final year in uni so it's been long since I last went out to shoot.
not yet own the D800, at first plan to get one this month, but with all the issue and it seems like they stop sending new stocks for now (probably dealing with all the issue reported?), I'll probably get it by June just to hope they sorted out the AF (I don't bother about the green tint, it's the AF that is worrying because I shoot lots of wide angle shots). icon_rolleyes.gif

for the IQ, I've been looking everywhere that has pro photog posted pictures with D800. But seriously, if not for the EXIF reader they could have posted pictures taken with D90, D3, D700 and I won't have a clue it's not from D800.

the one new features I like a lot is the new metering and face detection. I shoot loadsa streets photo and with D700 a lot of time it underexposed the face of the subject and by the time u realized you've missed the moment. But I have yet to hands on one though, so not sure how good is it. All I know now are from info and views of those who have used it.

but if i really bought it, it's because my hand really itchy rather than it will improve the IQ of my image. hahahaha because not like i'll print 40'' size or larger for all my pictures anyway laugh.gif


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post Apr 12 2012, 10:57 PM

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and probably by June, the hype in me will die down and I might stick with the D700 laugh.gif


Added on April 12, 2012, 10:59 pm
QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 12 2012, 10:57 PM)
wah in uni only but can afford D800 tongue.gif
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hahaha the last sportstoto supreme jackpot winner here! whistling.gif

do some part-time job in uni and work as research assistant lo. . . pay ok good cool2.gif

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post Apr 12 2012, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Apr 12 2012, 11:00 PM)
hi guys, im new to photography.recently got a d90 with 18-105mm kit lens.would like to ask when i focus that time,the lens is focusing but the lens wont move as we mostly see in real life. is this normal?
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that's an IF lens (internal focusing), so nothing moves externally.
for more ''secret'', read the manual icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 12 2012, 11:17 PM)
hmm.
http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showth...Nikon-D800-body

this guy sent his unit back to claim for yellow tint warranty, nikon said its normal and sent it back.
interestingly he wants to trade it for a D3s...
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haha yellow tint/green tint is like the last thing I would bother or worry about a camera body
those defects in AF/metering/processing/battery are more worrying than a slight yellow/green tint
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 12 2012, 11:23 PM)
what defects are there in AF?
or is it ppl who are trying to get to grips with the high MP?
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nope, and Nikon has unofficially acknowledged the AF issue too
the AF issue is something that the left AF point are always OOF while the centre and right focus point are spot on
and it's not an user error, since ppl test it using tripod and compare image capture with liveview where in liveview all the focus point is spot on so that rules out sensor's problem.
it's more apparent on wide angle lenses like 14-24 and 24mm.
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post Apr 12 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 12 2012, 11:39 PM)
so if its not sensor problem, and in liveview its all in focus, so something is happening when its written to the card?
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should be something to do with the AF module i think.
Nikon has only let those NPS fellas know about this, I tried to contact Nikon but to outsiders they would only say there's no AF problem reported.
But they have notified NPS members that Nikon hq is following the matter and bulletin has been issued to nikon subsidiaries to update the issue (according to Ming Thein) .
and with no new shipments for the past week, I assume Nikon is sorting the problem before any new shipments are made(just guessing).


Added on April 12, 2012, 11:44 pmand it only affected certain batches of D800 not all. . .


Added on April 13, 2012, 12:07 amshare share pic!
tokyo!!!!!!!!!!!! tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 09:31 AM)
LiveView using Contrast  Detect, sure different when using viewfinder.

If there is Back Focus or Front Focus issue, using LiveView doesn't have this problem.
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because in liveview mode, sensor is the one focusing not the AF module. That's why normally one compare an image with one taken under liveview mode to check front/back focusing. And you fine tune your AF in your body til it mirrors the result achieved in liveview. It's not right to say liveview sure different when using viewfiner. A perfectly calibrated AF module and lens should yield identical result when compared to images capture by using liveview.
And I'm talking about the AF problem for D800. Because it's known with wide lenses, the left focus points are OOF while the centre and right are not, using liveview is to check whether it was due to the AF module or sensor.
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post Apr 13 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 10:00 AM)
Huh?
I'm saying if have problem with focusing, using LiveView sure will spot on, as reply to your statement about when they use LiveView it's spot on.
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they used liveview just to rule out the AF issue from the sensor, nothing else. -.-
so they know the problem is probably due to AF module misalignment. Because it's odd to see centre and right focus point able to focus properly while the left side always appear OOF.


Added on April 13, 2012, 10:16 ambecause if the sensor is misaligned, using liveview will yield some odd shift in focal plane. . . .

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post Apr 13 2012, 10:40 AM

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hmm. . . if sensor is misaligned, it's not true that it will always get perfect focus in liveview.
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post Apr 14 2012, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Apr 14 2012, 01:07 AM)
Anyway, the details on the D800 pics is scary. When focus is spot on, everything can be seen.  biggrin.gif

That's true. You will only appreciate the resolving power of the D800 when viewing 100% on the monitor. I don't print billboards but then again, I see the huge MP as an advantage because when reduced, the noise and details is far far better than the D700.

Metering and focus is good. Better than D700. Yet to try the face detection. I read it's only available in LV mode? I may be wrong.

That's true. I do miss the faster fps on the D700. At some points, I shot the D800 continuously and after like 100 shots of so, I noticed that it was quite warm to touch. It is as if I put the camera in the car for an hour under the hot sun.
Yeah, one thing I like a lot is details. I love to see DETAILS! tongue.gif
And the power of the sensor in enabling one to capture all the details and resolution makes you feel the money invested in expensive glass money well spent. laugh.gif

I read, you need to switch it on thru liveview but after that you can shoot it thru viewfinder and it will detect the face, which is great with backlit situation.

hehe, I seriously don't bother with fps. I shoot single shot mode all the time on my D700. Frankly, never once used CL or CH on the D700 for shooting(use it just to test it works rclxms.gif ). So I really can't relate to the fuss of 4fps is too slow etc by all the ppl. rclxm9.gif


Added on April 14, 2012, 2:12 amor maybe it already auto detect faces without doing anything. Does it frame the face when you playback the pictures?


Added on April 14, 2012, 2:24 amoh. . .apparently need to be in AF-C and Auto-area AF for it to work smile.gif
wow. . . some even says no more the need of focus and recompose!!!

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Apr 14 2012, 09:20 AM)
yesterday was doing a yumcha session with my friends and somehow the topic of photography came up and one of my friend a canon user was saying that he "read an article or comments in dpreview that because d800's high MP, the current line up of nikkor lens cannot handle the resolution (meaning cannot maximize) and most images would become SOFT. thats why, Canon is not chasing MP's but changing its line up of lenses."

to me im normally pretty cool with who ever uses what la, not a real technical person either. for me its about the images at the end of the day not the technicalities of the gears. But when one hears smug comments like that, its kind of annoying. As if we are in the wrong camp and Nikon's made a booboo. I have heard this same sentiment from numerous d700 / d3 s/x owners. That D800's mp too high and current lens line up might not be able to maximize it. Maybe they are all reading from the same blog... hmm..

My unfounded theory is that it will look soft because its BIG. If you scale it down to maybe 12 mp it will look sharper than say actual 12mp sensor results. Anyone care to enlighten me..
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Nikon pro glass has no problem resolving the high MP
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/d-resolution-tests

I once read that those glass will only start to have problem out-resolving the sensor after 75MP based on some lp/mm thingy . . .

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