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post Apr 12 2012, 08:19 PM

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The adrenaline rush will heighten your heartbeat equivalent to a 1hr Xc riding cramped into 3mins. Picture that and you know what I mean, and that is if you can still walk after the 3mins ride.
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post Apr 15 2012, 08:32 PM

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Kiara is Park reserve maintained by DBKL. Apparently somebody from the Equestrian Club is offering DBKL to buiild Park Facilities for free at Bukit Kiara in return for some of the land nearby the Equestrian Club. Someone is trying to unlock the value of Bkt Kiara for development. Please participate in voicing your rights with TRAKS to DBKL. We old riders have done our part during the rape of Kiara in 2008 and now it is happening again.
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:12 AM

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In 2008, the Equestrian Club with DBKL were UNDER instruction from the then Agong to build Horse Trails for Endurance Horse training. 20 odd kilometres was ravaged which is what you see now the Horse Trails. A lot of the trails were detroyed including Mondo, Pondok to Pondok, Janis, Lower Short and Upper Short, Bar-A-Kuda, IUD, Boulder, Pure Quill etc etc. With TRAKS headed by Joe Adnan, Pat Brunsdon, Huang Ying How and some us we had a meeting to discuss issues with DBKL. At that time the Landscape Department were the custodian of Kiara Park. After a few rounds with DBKL, represented by Huang Ying How, Pat and Friends of Bukit Kiara (FBOK), we manage to do some damage control but the damages were already done. The DHillers including myself, Rizal Redride, Keng Leong, Fish, etc also shows our support by doing awareness within the community. For those of you who wish to be part of the Voice, the best way is to approach TRAKS and request for a meeting so that the task or ways around it can be discussed. You will definitely need support from FOBK as they have been fighting for this Hill long before us and they do have some heavyweights who stay in TTDI. This is a collective effort and support is utmost important. We are talking about going head to head with DBKL and influential organisation who wants to see Bkt Kiara developed such as Sime Darby, Berjaya and ASTRO.
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Apr 16 2012, 04:53 PM)
Thanks ...others who know how we can help contribute, please post here...so those who want to participate can play a part ...
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I think one of the best ways to create awareness is to write a Letter to the STAR editor together with the pics. It also worthwhile to contact Segambut MP LIM Lip Eng seeking and seek an audience with DBKL. For those of you here who are aspiring writers etc etc can start the ball rolling asap. Time is running out.
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post Apr 17 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Apr 17 2012, 02:19 PM)
Ok...doing my part for the cause...

Below is my email to Dato Raja Nong Chik, which I cc Jabatan Lanskap. I ve also forwarded this to a journalist friend. If you think you want to use this email to reach out...please do so...its not the most perfect email but its definitely the most honest one ...(my England so so la)

Dear Dato’,

I would like to bring your attention to the recent development/master plan taking place in Bukit Kiara Kuala Lumpur.

I believe you are aware that Landscape Department has proceeded to fence a number of areas within Bukit Kiara. I hope you do realize that Bukit Kiara has been a home to many walkers, joggers, trail runners and mountain bikers. It is the only place within KL city that still maintains its natural beauty and is still free for the public. The intangible benefits this area has given to us can not be underestimated.

People wanting to spend quality time with their family, people wanting to keep fit, people wanting to loose weight, people who appreciate nature … all come to Bukit Kiara week in and week out. As you can see…people, people and people really appreciate this place.

Kiara has always been a safe heaven for many of us who are trying to escape the mad city life of KL. We look forward every weekend to explore Bukit Kiara, for your information there is about 15 trails within the area, one would hardly notice as the trail were seamlessly develop to preserve its natural beauty. Seldom do we feel sad coming back from Bukit Kiara, however this all changed last weekend.

Please take a look at the pictures of how the destruction is taking place. Hardly any effort was made to ensure minimal damage to Bukit Kiara and knowing full well there are people running and biking in the area no proper signage were put up, which could have resulted in people getting  injured.

Just last weekend a group of Singaporeans charted an entire bus just to cycle in Bukit Kiara… People from all over the world travel to Bukit Kiara appreciating the trail. Just refer to this article http://home-team.pinkbike.com/blog/Riding-in-Malaysia.html and you will see what I mean. Nobody had to spend a single cent to get these tourist here…no F1 race track, no twin towers required…just good old nature and what have we done to the place?

Dato, please take time and look at the pictures I have attached in this email. It pains a lot of us especially the mountain bikers when we see this happening to our beloved Kiara. I say beloved because that’s how majority of us feel for this place. This is one of the rare places where the trail was hand built by riders who at the same time took a lot of effort to preserve Bukit Kiara’s natural state.

Imagine your kampong…a place you always look forward at every visit…suddenly being destroyed and fenced up. We are so good at destroying things that are given to us for free, why is this happening? This is a privilege that we are throwing away…for what? There are better ways to monitor and look after the area. Fencing is definitely not one of it.

Dato,

Appreciate if you can please look into this. We certainly look forward to your kind assistance on this matter. Please not just the cyclist, everyone needs this place.

“The human spirit needs places where nature has not been rearranged by the hand of man.”

Salam.

Thank you.

Regards,


Lets see if he replies or not ....
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Well written and hopefully this will stir up some public interest. The next thing to do is actually lodge an official complain of which DBKL is obligated to resolve under whatever circumstances. This is their policy as it affects KPI's and complains needs to be closed by the complainee.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(chyu89 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:02 PM)
this bike go kiara sure nice
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that is if Kiara is still there for you ride if nothing is done about it now...
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post Apr 18 2012, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Apr 18 2012, 06:19 PM)
Some encouraging news ...my journalist contact replied to ask for the location...he wants to send his photographer there...

Coincidentally I met him on the way down the rocky section from office to bikewash...we were both struggling to get down the section hehehe...

Lets hope he can help us...
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My friend..you have done a lot more than i have envisaged and ought to be applauded. if ever you need assistance, please contact Pat Brunsdon or Huang Ying How at TRAKS. If not, call out, I can assist you.

I hope some of the riders here will put aside talking about bikes and accessories in this thread while someone is doing all he can so that you could continue to ride Kiara. Any contribution in helping to spread this effort is much appreciated, and I am quite sure some of you can spare that little time of yours for this cause.
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post Apr 18 2012, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Apr 18 2012, 07:31 PM)
I ve also emailed the editor at The Star...no reply so far ...

Im just trying to salvage the place ...like I said ...if you want to use my email to forward to people who you think can help ..please do so ...

Just dont want to go down without a fight ...
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You can post a link to this thread in Facebook as Bukit Kiara has a facebook account there and can do the same at FakawiTribe forum.

Good work my friend, come ride with me next time we meet in Kiara.
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post Apr 20 2012, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Apr 20 2012, 07:13 PM)
I think in Fakawi forum got the picture ...

I dont understand how big a problem that he highlighted? Does it justify fencing the area? Even worst is the works didnt take into account the natural state of the area ...they simply bulldoze the place ...I think these guys hardly know whats happening ...if it is done for horses even worst ....#$@#%@#% I really really cant accept it ...
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It seems that reply was just some shadowy moves to deflect from the actual issue. Why would they use so much money and effort just to do what they are doing when nobody was complaining about kiara being invaded or trespassed. It seems that an official complain needs to be lodged officially so that they will not get away with such lame excuse. It is time to go ballistic and add pressure to DBKL. I guess the Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng needs to do something about this and also the users of Kiara will need to unite and seek redress of the issues with DBKL in the presence of journalist and public at large.

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post Apr 20 2012, 10:36 PM

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http://limlipeng.blogspot.com/

This is his blog site, perhaps someone can alarm him.
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post Apr 24 2012, 10:57 AM

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THE STAR today published a letter from Friends of Bukit Kiara highlighting the Fencing of Kiara Park and its consequences. It is now a good time to ride on this and put in our complaint and concern. The walkers does not care about the trails as they are not affected. The biggest affected community is the Mountain Biikers, if we don't fight our own war who is going to fight for us.
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post May 12 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(moc @ May 12 2012, 08:47 PM)
Anyone heard of kiara will be develope...?
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It is just a matter of time only. All plans has already been laid down. If you wish to do something please contact TRAKS.
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post Jun 4 2012, 07:43 PM

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Kiara map, it won't be there long......

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post Jun 21 2012, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(kaizer @ Jun 21 2012, 09:58 AM)
First of, my hats off salute to you for your effort and time, Sinbad. You're a good man pursuing a noble cause.

But this letter it seems like they're bringing for a ride around taman rather thay stating any actions to be taken.
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The modus operandi of Official Complaint by Public to DBKL will need to addressed and closed by the respected party. Therefore, it is imperative that any resolution proposed by DBKL will need to be scrutinised and discussed. It is prudent that affected parties seek guidance from TRAKS before accepting any resolution proposed by DBKL. If any misdeeds is suspected it is best to make a Police Report or consult the MP of Segambut, Mr Lim Lip Eng.
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post Jun 21 2012, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Jun 21 2012, 12:55 PM)
Save Kiara:Update

Today Jabatan Alam Sekitar called me to look at the place...they wanted the coordinates..didnt have it so i just gave them the direction Upper Short and Boulder..hopefully they can see the handy work...

What was sad was...when the guys asked the security guard about the construction area...they said no more...what an ass
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This is precisely how it should not be done. You could have contacted any of your rider friends or TRAKS to accompany them to the exact place if you are not free to do so. They should not be left to their own devices and at the end of the day, they will just report back and say no more construction and the case will be closed. All your efforts will be futile.

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post Jun 22 2012, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Jun 22 2012, 05:43 PM)
smile.gif i no have such gear and i dont know where the location are but that i would suggest to those who do, mah. better than some just saying, shouldn't just tell them and don't do this that or call our segambut MP. blah blah
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We have been doing tons for Kiara so that you guys can ride and make noise here. Where were you when we do trail maintenace and trail works. Where were you when Kiara was ravaged for the Horse Trails and we guys stood up attend meetings and gets things done. We have been striving tirelessly to preserve Kiara and everybody has something to do about it. Major Sinbad did a brilliant job and he needs support from all of us. I have done all those stuff 4 years ago and I am pointing him in the right direction to get things done properly if not any efforts will be futile Traks is a good start and all of us who are part of it have been there and knows what works and what doesn't. If you can't take constructive criticism and start lifting your hands off those keyboard and get involved physically you have no reason to be here. Besides, I have not seen anything useful or constructive coming out from your keyboard

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post Jul 10 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Jul 10 2012, 09:52 AM)
Yeah ...is it?
This week going to be final ride before I go on a month season break ...eheh
But if there are those going on night rides Im interested to join ...
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By the time you are back, i am not sure whether Kiara will be what it is today. The more we pressure the faster the excavator works. It seems that some higher handed person is trying to destruct until there's no point of return. Join the Kiara Walk this Sunday to show our support.
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post Aug 1 2012, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Aug 1 2012, 03:09 PM)
Yup ...fatter tyre in front....
You can go for thinner tyre for the back actually ...
I go for grip in front ...faster rolling at the back ...
Front: size ie: 2.2-2.25
Front tyre: More grip ie: Nevegal, Noby Nics, Ardent
Rear: size 2.0-2.1
Rear Tyre: Faster Rolling: ie: High Roller, Rocket Rons

But that me la ...different people different style ...preference ....it also depends on your riding style and trail too ...

If XC then you go for fast rolling ...less nobby tyres ...
Trail/AM you want more grip, breaking, cornering ...u go for more nobby tyre

Same goes for the brake rotor...
Go big in front ....cause thats where the breaking power comes from
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I have different outake on bigger front tires. More grip in the front prevents washing out whilst cornering. Climbing and rooty tractions for me is secondary. As for the rear, less rolling resistance is good for XC, however for AM, i requires some traction to prevent the rear from sliding especially during cornering.

In terms of Braking a lot of riders has been totally misquided. I use the smallest rotor I can put on my rear for control. This is to prevent my rear from locking up and loses traction and control. Bear in mind, a lock up wheels has no traction and never brake during a corner or descending using your rear wheel. You only apply enough brakes at the rear for slowing down not total lock up. it is bad for the trails. As for the front, i use this a lot even descending. It helps slows down the bike and keeps you in control. Single finger braking is the way to go for modulating braking pressure. And remember to squat your bike by applying downward pressure onto your pedal. This is the correct way to brake as with the weight down the braking efficiency increases.
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post Aug 2 2012, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(cheewooi @ Aug 2 2012, 05:43 PM)
Guys,
Anyone using ZTR Flow Rim? I am considering between Arch and Flow as I ride trail in the weekend and on road in the weekdays.

The problem is I found that ZTR Flow rim ID is extremely wide 22.3MM if not mistaken compared to Arch ID 19mm.

I am currently runs Maxxis Detonator and Larsen TT for road and some XC.

Plan to get Nevegal or Crossride for Kiara.

My question is if I got new wheelset (Hope EVO Pro 2 with ZTR Flow). I don't think Maxxis Detonator can fit into the  Flow rim.

Any advice? BTW what other hub recommended beside Hope EVO Pro 2.

The damage cost for Hope EVO Pro 2 and ZTR Flow is around RM1.78K? Is that expensive or reasonable?

Thanks
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The wider the better. I have the FLow on the front and 355 on the rear. The wide flows running tubeless is badass. The tires is almost flat in profile and as a result the side knobs bites better during cornering. As for the rear, i run the 355 to reduce weight and to decrease rolling resistance since the tires runs a bit rounded than the FLOW. Both rims are quite sturdy in my opinion.
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post Aug 2 2012, 09:23 PM

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The wider the rims the better. Just like a car rim, the wider it is the more contact pressure you can gained. If you not into aggressive riding, i would suggest keeping both tires the same size.

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