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 Mountain Biking Heaven V26.8, the bestest two-wheel sport

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tongyam
post Aug 22 2012, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(luckyboy84 @ Aug 20 2012, 08:03 PM)
hi there,

reputable brand names like Giant, Specialized, Kona, Scott, Cannondale, Trek etc may buy you quality assurance, better frame finish (paint, joint, cable seaters), better warranty, technical support, spare parts availability, wider share of user experiences (wider user base) and better resale value of the frame.
the price differences against generic brands like xds, exitway etc may vary based on the model and company, so it's best to seek advice from a local bike shop (lbs). there's nothing wrong trying out these generic ones as they might offer better components for the same price or lower. do not underestimate them, try them out if you have the chance as you may find very neligible difference with more expensive options.

important things to consider:
sizing - bike frames come in different size denominations, small, med, large, or their equivalence in numbers like 15, 16, 17.5, 19 21 i cant remember which specific length it refers to. the size you need is normally determined by your overall height. another important thing is the length of your legs.  sizing's important as it will make the most difference between a happy comfortable ride or a frustrating and regrettable purchase. you may read articles online for "frame size" and seek help from your local bike shop (lbs) for the correct size.

weight, performance, componentry - . there are two major gear and brake component makers, Shimano (japan) and SRAM(usa). both have come a very long way, so you wont go wrong with either. both companies have segmented their products into groupset levels, based on largely on the weight, intended use (riding  level and style, but dont worry for now) and definitely PRICE. for shimano you will hear names like altus, alivio, deore, slx, deore xt and xtr; SRAM - x5, x7, x9, xo and xx (entry level to highest end in that order).RM3000 can buy you some entry to mid level componentry bike, so you will be looking at the range of deore and partly slx (i have no experience with SRAM) with 3 (front) and 10 (rear) gears for a total of 30. you will usually find mixed intergroup components, or even between companies. eg the brakes could be a Deore but the rear derailleur from SLX. they are perfectly fine as long as they are compatible (in terms of gear numbers and company. many beginners make mistake here as they usually make their buying decision based on the gears alone, especially the rear derailleur and the crank by judging them to be the most prominent parts of the bike. deore and slx or even alivio are VERY OK for beginners. you might not be able to feel the difference at all when starting.
pay MORE attention to the wheels and tires as they make huge difference in the ride quality . Often, stock bikes offer better quality gear parts than a pair of good wheels (light and stiffer) as they are often perceived with higher overall value or quality of the bike. lighter wheels are always desirable especially when riding uphill. stock wheels usually weigh above 2 kg a pair while decent ones may go 1800 g or lower.

Tyres, though vary and affect your ride a lot, it's ok for you to ride stocks until later.anything frm size (width) 1.9 to 2.1 inches is ok for you for normal rides. make sure your tires are well inflated all the time and seek advice for the correct tire pressures for on the road and off road riding.

pedals - mainly two types - flat pedals and clipless (shoes and pedal retaining system for smoother and better transfer of your leg power). you may wanna start with flat pedals as they are safer, easier to pedal and compatible with a rider range of shoes especially when you're not ready to spend of specific clipless shoes. running shoes are not recommended as they have softer soles and you waste more energy when pedalling.

saddle, handle bars, handle bar grips, stem; make sure they are comfortable, reachable by your body height and size.learn or get help from your lbs on how to adjust them. it's a good time to learn the jargons and standards right frm the beginning like the brands, sizes (eg handlebar width, clamp size 25.4 or 31.8) and fitting as they would help you when replacing or upgrading later.

for the suspension system, you may get better answers from more experienced fellow riders here.

as mentioned, you will have to consider certain must-have like a bike helmet, gloves, shoes, lights, pocketable tools, tire and suspension pump. as you go along you might find the need for for a car bike carrier, bike stand, hydration systems either a bottle cage and bottle combination or a reservour type hydration bags (camelbak, hydrapack etc). common sense prevails here, so go with the right size, comfort, right budget and when the real need for the extras comes. do ask for these extras from the lbs as they might offer you better deal or even for free with your bike purchase.

read bike magazines and bike specific online sites and forums mentioned in page 1, you will learn a lot faster from the names and parts often mentioned in the featured bikes, especially the quality, performance and price (currency conversion are quite accurate here, eg for an item priced US dollar 500, you would expect the price to be around rm1500). 

most lbs will offer good advice based on your needs and ability but if you're still skeptical and wanna make specific comparisons based on components alone, just ask for a component lists frm the salesperson or balik rumah, search and print urself and do your part again. well again and again, lbs reputation and service, warranty, right size, right comfort, right needs, right adjustments are the most important. update your experience of buying with us!
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post Aug 22 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Aug 22 2012, 01:00 AM)
MTB 101
How do I choose?
Because riding styles and equipment have evolved to suit different terrain, deciding which bicycle is right for you will be easier if you know what type of terrain you intend to ride.

A common misconception is that a new rider needs more suspension because of the added control. While the added suspension may instill confidence in some technical sections, often time the relaxed geometry is not suited to less experienced riders.

On the other hand, it is just as hard to avoid the temptation of the ultra-light bike. The benefits of light weight are undeniable, but a novice rider will find XC racing bikes can be difficult to control when the trail gets rough.

XC Racing Bikes

Often called Cross Country bikes, XC Racing bikes are designed to tackle a mountain from the bottom. Lightweight and efficient, XC bikes often sacrifice comfort and control as luxuries you can’t afford when racing to the top.

XC bike frames are either hardtail or short travel, semi-active suspension designs. Long and low, XC bikes put the rider in a stretched out position. Best suited to gradual terrain, XC racing bikes are popular in areas without a lot of rocks and roots and among competitive riders.

If your idea of mountain biking is fitness and endurance you may want to consider a XC Racing bike. If you consider the best rider the one who made it to the top first, then your choice is made.

XC Trail Bikes

Often called all-purpose, XC Trail bikes are what most people think of when they hear the term “mountain bike”.

XC Trail bikes are designed to climb with control and comfort and descend with speed. With active suspension, knobby tires and low gearing the XC trail bike is slightly less efficient than an XC Racing bike but can be more enjoyable to ride downhill. As terrain gets steeper, trails tend to get rockier and the ultra-light XC Racing bike may ride roughly, but the XC Trail bike is right at home.

If you like the idea of challenging yourself on a rocky climb, enjoy extended singletrack descents and want to battle it out with your friends going uphill or down, an XC Trail bike may be for you.

All-Mountain Bikes

Some riders just need more. As adventures get longer and trails more remote, many riders see increased value in reliability and downhill control.

The bigger tires, plush suspension and powerful brakes of the All-Mountain bike are an insurance policy against accidents and mishaps and can be just plain fun to ride. With geometry suited to steep terrain and small drop-offs All-Mountain bikes can inspire confidence, however, on more mild terrain they can feel sluggish.

If you are an all-day adventurer or ride harsh trails you may be an All-Mountain rider.

Freeride Bikes

Freeride bikes are designed to ride the most extreme types of terrain. Steep chutes, large rocks and roots, big jumps and drop-offs, and just about anything else, natural or man-made, that you can imagine.

With only the occasional concession made for even the thought of riding uphill, freeride bikes are mountain biking’s version of monster trucks. Blurring the line between bicycle and motorcycle, bikes with eight inches of rear wheel travel, three inch wide tires, and eight inch diameter brake rotors are commonplace.

If you are attracted to the challenge of going big and see mountain biking as a source of individual expression, Freeriding will appeal to you. And what does any extreme athlete need? Well, a Saint to watch over him, of course.

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post Sep 1 2012, 06:49 PM

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post Sep 28 2012, 02:20 PM

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post Oct 11 2012, 01:52 PM

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post Nov 14 2012, 11:11 PM

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哦看哦看
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post Nov 28 2012, 04:01 PM

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how r u all? ^^
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post Dec 1 2012, 08:53 AM

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who free 1 on1 now?
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post Dec 6 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Dec 5 2012, 04:23 PM)
Ouch...


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tongyam
post Dec 15 2012, 01:33 AM

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I OK JE
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post Dec 19 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(anthony_nch82 @ Dec 17 2012, 10:10 PM)
My friend intend to sell his beloved Kona cheap cheap.
Please PM him if you are interested.
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Added on December 19, 2012, 2:37 pm
QUOTE(Broadica @ Dec 19 2012, 11:04 AM)
you ask the wrong question. its not weather a 160mm bike can climb or not. its the design, are they build for climbing. some AM bike with good geo can climb very well. mine does. but no matter how good the bike design and how well it can climb.. AM bike are AM bike, they are heavier with slacker front... that is the penalty; and that is what make it tiring to climb. the bigger the travel the bike has the heavier it is.

alu AM bike are around 14kg +- depending on setup. and they cost whole lot more with a 160mm fork up front (fox36 is way more expensive than fox32). 150mm fork are cheaper too... so blurlt can be lighter and cheaper to build. consider that point too.

so can it do kiara, pcp and hash...? hell yea... but its heavy.. especially hash... hash have a lot of climbs, you would appreciates lighter bikes. like it or not... light bike is easier on long ascent. so depend on which activities you do more... choose ur weapon wisely.
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Added on December 19, 2012, 2:38 pm
QUOTE(timothyy @ Dec 19 2012, 09:17 AM)
Current trend we are having...

1 XC bike
1 Big hit bike (160mm)

Of course... some are doing the below
1 x go kedai runcit MTB
1 x 26er HT XC bike
1 x 120mm Trail bike
1 x 165mm Hard Hit bike
1 x 29er HT super XC bike
1 x Road bike
He! He! ...
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Added on December 19, 2012, 2:41 pm
QUOTE(garyfatty @ Dec 12 2012, 11:00 AM)
Saint pedal is bulky and heavy. Thin profile pedal is the way to go if you want flat pedal. like Spank

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post Dec 19 2012, 04:45 PM

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rider weight = 6.3x of the weight of bike.


Added on December 19, 2012, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(tongyam @ Dec 19 2012, 04:46 PM)
haha i know karate one
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post Dec 23 2012, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(tkh89 @ Dec 22 2012, 11:25 PM)
Merry Christmas Guys biggrin.gif
Some small updates on my bike...

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Coming soon are:
- Easton Haven handlebar
- Hope Pro 2 Evo hubs with ZTR Flow EX rim

Now left with the drivetrain...
Still deciding between Shimano XT and SLX... hmm.gif
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:52 AM

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lai kiara lai
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post Dec 24 2012, 11:11 AM

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wtf!! who no kashima?
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:14 AM

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good morning lad
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post Jan 2 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(majorsinbad @ Jan 2 2013, 10:14 AM)
Hi Newbie here....

How do you protect your Rear Derailleur from breaking off  cry.gif ?

Yours Trully,

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Added on January 2, 2013, 11:26 am
QUOTE(tareh @ Jan 2 2013, 11:07 AM)
semalam whilst turun flintstone trail, i bumped into an XC rider break break slow slow kambing going down. i jerit belakang "go go go, dont break dont break" but the guy refused to kasi jalan or go to the side a bit and let me potong. my front wheel berapa kali almost kena his rear wheel until one time got puddle he swerve tepi then i can potong.

sampai bawah i tengah cuci bike he appeared and he was like "bro! mana orang buat timing?"

sorry ah, kalau slow tu tolong kasi jalan to faster guys from behind.
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post Jan 2 2013, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(tareh @ Jan 2 2013, 12:03 PM)
dont know la sebab i also give way, sometime i go slow kambing also. just tap the brakes and hug the trees / wall. people will appreciate it
yea memang. tapi taiko yang hensem
kanot la langgar RD. ini bukan megavalanche. ini kiara ride for fun. kalau langgar RD nanti dua dua jatuh. his statement tu was more off a sarcastic remark macam laju laju also mana ada orang buat timing pun.
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post Jan 4 2013, 02:27 PM

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who wan ride with me ?
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