there is little to choose between most of the ipts med schools in msia...decide based on non-academic factors, eg, friends, close to home etc......all will end up the same whe you graduate....

and don't worry...ALL new ipts med schools WILL get accredited, no matter what.....this is a political decision, not an academic or professional decision....

utar receives part financing from the gov (ie taxpayers).....which is why their fees are one of the cheapest....

there has been some bad publicity with segi....but they are actually in education for quite a while (compared to the likes of say perdana, or lincoln), and well connected politically.....

don't get confused.....their (with the exception of utar which is not for profit) primary purpose is to make money....NOT provide quality education.....

i thought the same arrangement for part funding exist for utar as well......but if that is true, i stand corrected.....

it being a not for profit uni remains valid.....

there is a convention on how a qualification is stated, and it varies from country to country...

in most developed countries, the qualification is stated, but not the awarding uni....the implicit convention being that it matters not which uni you come from....

in the commonwealth, the post graduate degree however will often state the college of award.....so you will see mb chb, frcs(eng), frcsed etc......because there are usually several colleges that award the same post graduate....

americans just use md, and board certification, there aren't different bodies awarding the same qualification....

qualifications are all omitted in scientific journals.....

in the 3rd world, many will proudly state the origin of the degree, if it is from a famous/respected med school....but just as many will quietly omit the med school if it's not....

this is the case with msia, and many will just put mbbs....or just add (india) or (russia) at the end.....but others will proudly proclaim mbbs(ucl/lon), mbbs(monash), or even mbbs(mal)......

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they all will.....

the rejection rate for housemans historically is almost zero...they may get retained, takes them longe5r, but almost all get get their licence eventually....

there poses considerable problems for the assessors (ie consultants/head of dept) NOT to pass them...reports to write, answer demands why as senior doctors, they are so incompetent that they cannot train the housemans to acceptable quality.....and thus most don't bother, just retain them for a while, then quickly pass them and hand them over to another dept....someone else's headache then.....

the survey covers all housemans, working in selected hospitals....reflecting all the varied medical schools msian doctors graduate from......

why not?.....

this is a study, not an evaluation.....sampling of housemans from selected hospitals....

in any case, there will be few, if any, uk grads doing housemanship in msia.....

what makes you think they are not?.....

what makes you think they should be?....

there are lots of excellent students and excellent doctors fro local unis, particularly ipta like um/ukm...(spore is not stupid)....

most jpa/mara scholars try to stay on to finish fy in uk....they used to allow....but jpa lately says no.....so there will be some, but not many....as many break their bonds and pay the penalty...

that is simply because there wasn't any uk/oz grads in the sample.....

selected sample of hospitals and states.....of course the criticism is that the sample may not be representative of the broader cohort of current housemans....

the majority of people here talking about doing medicine will not even be short listed for their biomedical test, let alone gain entry, into um....