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hrevijay
post Jul 1 2012, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(MIRK @ Jul 1 2012, 07:51 PM)
Hi, can anyone recommend a good textbook for P3 (self-study)? Amongst BPP, Emile Woolf and GTG. I'm unsure which one to buy.

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Might vary by the paper you're taking, but overall BPP.
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post Jul 3 2012, 08:38 PM

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Wow. . . Next round of classes and exams are already here. Headaches begin all over again

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Anybody here taking F7 @ KSA or F8 @ Elitejaya ?
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post Jul 6 2012, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(yingtsze @ Jul 6 2012, 02:29 PM)
is it tough to self study for F6 (MYS)?
what kind of book should i get?
anyone selling or wanting to give away these books? revision kits or whatever..
its my first time to self study without going any class
due to my financial problem.
please advice me, thanks!
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It'll be quite tough. You need some form of guidance at least on how to start and what to focus on. Some rules are really complicated and can be quite easily misunderstood. But not totally impossible. I'd suggest for you to attend at least first term classes. It won't come up to much.
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post Jul 6 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(yingtsze @ Jul 6 2012, 03:29 PM)
thanks!
hm.. maybe i should take another paper instead?
i just cant afford to pay for the fees.
im so lost.
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I don't mean to sound rude, but are you really sure you can't muster RM300 ? A loan ? Anyways, I don't think switching papers will make a difference. The only paper you probably could self study without much difficulty is F4. Just my two cents worth.

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post Jul 9 2012, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(kokming118 @ Jul 9 2012, 10:27 PM)
yup, taking f7 there..
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Hey kokming. Are you also doing F8 ? Btw how's Mr Ian Lim for F7 ? I think this is the first time he teaching F7.
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post Jul 14 2012, 10:17 AM

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Hey I've got GTG F7 text & kit, brand new 2012 edition. Interested in either selling or exchanging for F8 text & kit. Pl PM if keen. Ty
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post Jul 17 2012, 10:19 PM

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Hey anyone here in Sanjeetha's F4 class @ kasturi ? I'd like to know which part of the syllabus she's covering now. Has she already started with company law ? Pl advice. Ty
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post Jul 18 2012, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Jul 18 2012, 01:00 AM)
Guys, Im currently taking F7 and F9... I wanna start study earlier!!! Any advice for me???  icon_question.gif
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So start study earlier la.... doh.gif doh.gif

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post Jul 19 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(muppet @ Jul 19 2012, 10:23 PM)
if 1 more komen ms santa bad... i will add to unrecommended lecturer list...
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QUOTE(DawredTan @ Jul 19 2012, 10:59 PM)
lol. I guess the un-recommended lecturer list serves the purpose of to list those who are having poor attitude, rude or  unprofessional ethics in class.

Teaching method of lecturers can be very subjective to individual. Eg, I dislike the method of a lecturer but other students in her class like that way.  blush.gif

Don't make judgement too easily with just few comments in teaching method.
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Yeah I concur. Muppet, pl exercise caution in regards to putting ppl on the NOT recommended list. It should only serve as a warning to poor lecturers, not demotivate good lecturers.

I am in complete agreement with DawredTan in that only lecturers with poor attitude and those who self promote should be included. Based on teaching method, I suggest only when there are an overwhelming number of complaints.

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post Jul 20 2012, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(muppet @ Jul 19 2012, 11:33 PM)
ok i agree... but liadat the recommend lecturer list also must be base on many people promote rite??

shall i reset the list?
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Excellent suggestion Muppet. I think some of the names are currently out of date and needs to be reset/updated.
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Jul 20 2012, 05:23 AM)
Ya, I can feel the pressure ady.. Summore 3 papers... No play play  rclxub.gif
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I know how you feel. I too sat for 3 papers last term and will doing the same this term. The only way to ensure you don't fall behind is to be on top of your game from day one. I always used lectures as a timeline to covering the syllabus. Ensure you're up to date with what your lecturer covers in class. Study in bite sizes, it's a lot easier and you brain absorbs and retains more. Wish you all the best.

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post Jul 22 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(X1Y2Z3 @ Jul 21 2012, 06:05 PM)
Hi, I'm new here. Can you help me answer my questions?

As of current, I have taken IGCSE Accounting. The results are yet to be out, but if I do well, I may consider a career in accountancy. Should I take CAT first or can I jump to ACCA directly? If I am to pursue the CAT qualification, the questions below are relevant.

Start with CAT, gives you stronger base

What papers can I skip (if any) given my current qualifications?

Absolutely none, your current qualification is equivalent to Kindergarden ed

Are Frank Wood's Business Accounting textbooks sufficient for the CAT qualification?

That's like reading Peter and Jane. CAT/ACCA have their own texts/kits

Finally, are there any age/academic requirements and is working experience necessary to sit for the paper or to receive my certificate?

Nope. They do have a 'human beings only' rule though

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 22 2012, 04:26 PM)
Hi guys i would like to ask why is Mr Siva Satish not recommended besides the above reasons?

Cos hes my Audit lecturer for my degree course year 2 and soon to be my year 3 audit lecturer too. So i'd like to know extra feedbacks about his style of teaching.

So far i find him just alright only. He doesnt spoonfeed which is good, but until the point where its as if hes just lazy to explain :/

But i had Mr Siva Nair taught me Taxation biggrin.gif
A very helpful and good lecturer indeed, highly recommended
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Doesn't your question self explain ? doh.gif

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post Jul 24 2012, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(fourseasonguo @ Jul 24 2012, 10:43 AM)
Hello, I am taking F4,F5,F6 this semester. Can anyone give me advice how to pass this exam. F4, too many things to remember. sigh
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Where ?
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post Jul 25 2012, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(fourseasonguo @ Jul 24 2012, 10:43 AM)
Hello, I am taking F4,F5,F6 this semester. Can anyone give me advice how to pass this exam. F4, too many things to remember. sigh
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One note of advice, F5 is a theory paper with minute amounts of calculation. Your preparation should reflect this. Many students including myself, assume otherwise resulting in a costly mistake. This is further exacerbated by the fact that most F5 lecturers are too calculation oriented. So beware.

QUOTE(junggle @ Jul 25 2012, 02:27 AM)
I asked this question before. lol
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Hey junggle. . . Long time no see smile.gif

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post Jul 30 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Doreamon10 @ Jul 30 2012, 11:15 AM)
Oh, my god! Joe Fang? His consolidation workings are all over the place! I joined his classes last term but i did not use his consolidation method. I was so afraid to destroy my chance of passing! If I was the marker,  such messy workings (arrows here and there) will really piss me off.

Just my personal opinion, those who intend to join his class, better go around and ask his former students first!
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Pl correct me if I'm wrong but I believe F7/P2 require a thorough understanding of ledger entries. I also believe that Mr Joe Fang's method's circumvents this core accounting concept. If that's is the case, I think it's extremely unsafe to rely on such methods mainly for 2 reasons. One, while the methods work for the current exam format, can it be relied upon if the format were to be suddenly changed(like F5 last term) and two, although it might be useful in passing exams, how about real world application when we start working.

Note: This are just my thoughts and by no means a criticism of Mr Joe Fang or his methods. I might be wrong. Pl enlighten me if I am.

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post Jul 31 2012, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(pherac @ Jul 30 2012, 11:31 PM)
His method does seem a lil bit messy the first time you see it but it gives you the whole picture and prevents you from missing out on any points. Having said that, I haven't reached the consolidation part yet lol

Lol indeed. You contradict yourself big time. First you say that his method appears messy at first but gives you whole picture at the end, then you say you've not reached the end. So how we're you able to conclude that the end picture was clear ? Pl clarify.

I studied F7 on my own last sitting by watching online lectures by some british. He said that ACCA tests your understanding of the relevant accounting standards and your ability of applying them in the real life situation. Good lecturers would advise their students against opening up too many T accounts during the exam as doing so will confuse the students and take up too much of their time (hence the poor management of time). Without the basic knowledge of the ledger, you won't be able to apply the method also, in my opinion. It's just a shortcut without all those T accounts.

You did not answer both my questions. How if the exam format is abruptly changed. Will his methods still work ? And what about beyond the exams ?

FYI, my lecturer teaches the exact opposite. We've completed statement of cash flows, and opening T accounts is core part of the working needed. After seeing your explanation, I'm even more convinced that circumventing this integral part of working is simply dangerous. Offhand I can tell you that most malaysian ACCA students(who btw have poor command of english) will find answering questions thoroughly confusing and end up making incorrect adjustments.


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post Jul 31 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(hurly @ Jul 31 2012, 07:10 AM)
Some people cannot comprehend Joe Fang method. Some people can. I met these 2 different groups of people prior taking my f7 paper. I gave Joe a chance. So I am pretty comfortable with the method.

Some people reject his method because they studied the T accounts method before. I pretty sure T accounts method is correct.

At the end of the day, which method makes a student pass his or her exam?

ps: hrevijay, which lecturer would you suggests?
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My apologies but I do not want to recommend/side with any lecturer so as to not appear to be biased. My intentions in posting about this issue was just share my thoughts, nothing more. What I can say I this, if all you want to do is pass your exam, then it doesn't really matter which lecturer you go to as every lecturer has his or her own unique method that enables student's to pass. But if you realize the importance of understanding what you're studying and being able I apply the knowledge in work and business in the future, I strongly urge students to look for a lecturer who focusses on fundamentals and not shortcuts.

QUOTE(pherac @ Jul 31 2012, 09:48 AM)
Why do people on this thread always like to turn a question into a debate? lol i don't get it.

Yeah I did mention that we have yet to reach the consolidation part but I've seen him applying his timeline method for all of the other chapters. It would seem messy the first time you see it cause you're not used to it. Okay, since I haven't been introduced to the consolidation part, I shall have no say in this matter.

Poor command in english is a common problem in a lot of students. Opening up too many T accounts and getting yourself confused is the specific problem while doing statement of cashflow and other statements.

Knowing how to do T account is the most basic knowledge that you must know before coming up of a faster shortcut to tackle the exam questions. After all, we call it exam technique. If the exam format is changed, lecturers will probably devise another exam technique to tackle it specifically.

If you can't run, just walk lor.. If you can walk and run, of course you wanna run.
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It is not my intention to debate or prove anyone wrong. It just seemed a little odd that after just a few classes, you're able to confirm JF's methods to be clear. Anyways, you probably have a point. Lets put this issue to bed. Btw, don't you think for someone not very fluent in English, T acct methods theoretically should be easier, since it's just math ?


QUOTE(terryble @ Jul 31 2012, 09:51 AM)
Joe Fang give some of the best notes~~i am still using his IAS Mind maps now even after i have pass all papers~~

no doubt his Consol is a bit weird~~but i do get myself a pass with his method "of not consolidating other accounting standards in the consol question"

By the way..can any1 kindly scan me a copy of his latest IAS mind maps??  notworthy.gif
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I think that's problem with a lot of ppl. Everyone is content with just passing. Don't get me wrong, but I feel that's risky and possibly could be the reason as to why many fail.

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post Aug 10 2012, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Xeniouz @ Aug 8 2012, 12:11 PM)
AFFILIATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(noonies_naruto @ Aug 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
I didn't sleep at all last night sweat.gif

but I passed all already rclxm9.gif

no more studying like a pig for meeeeeee
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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Aug 8 2012, 12:51 PM)
Congratulations guys!

I'm also bringing in good news. Am an affiliate now!

Looking forward to new challenges now that I'm done with ACCA biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pherac @ Aug 8 2012, 02:36 PM)
Passed all F level papers.. now proudly moving on to P level.
I think hell starts here.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 8 2012, 07:24 PM)
aww yeahhhhhh
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Just back from bora-bora.....Congrats ! ! to eveyone who passed.

QUOTE(Band0fs1nz @ Aug 8 2012, 12:34 PM)
Well, thank God for the 2 papers except 1. XD

Anyone can recommend me whether to study on my own F8 or go for classes?
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Classes>>>>>Sheila John @ Elitejaya. Her students did really well this sitting.


QUOTE(junggle @ Aug 8 2012, 12:42 PM)
I passed all three!! I screamed when i saw the result.
I'm too happy!!!!! WTH!!!!
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shocking.gif shocking.gif


QUOTE(tsy0708 @ Aug 8 2012, 01:53 PM)
do you guys know? now low chin ann also teaching F5 at KB.... can anybody tell me is he good in lecturing F5 and F6? I'm thinking to take his F5 and F6..
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I took both F5 & F6 with Mr Low last term. Passed both. He's a calculation focused tutor. For F6 he's excellent,
for F5, you might have to cover some theory by yourself.

Also, he's an exemplary lecturer. Fantastic work ethic. Very punctual and organized. Good atmosphere to his class too.

QUOTE(Slurp @ Aug 9 2012, 01:36 AM)
can anyone advice me?what is the strategic to study ACCA?i freaking sad i fail f5 twice!!! icon_question.gif  cry.gif
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Strategic ? doh.gif

QUOTE(SereneAshley @ Aug 9 2012, 01:46 AM)
Ok finally got in already... Yessss!! Its a pass  rclxm9.gif
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Awesome ! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(muppet @ Aug 9 2012, 06:44 AM)
i finally pass f9 after 6 try with 71 mark!! anyone score 70+ also??
i fail f8 again though with 48.. sien...
now have to drop p paper...
i last i happy something... :-)
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Good job Muppet. You really are an example of perseverance.

QUOTE(tonylyj @ Aug 10 2012, 12:10 AM)
Well prepared for all 3 papers but failed all.
Really no idea at all
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Probably wrong study technique dude...I suggest you reduce no of papers per term and concentrate your efforts.

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post Aug 13 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jessicacwp @ Aug 13 2012, 01:10 PM)
Hi,

I am going to take p2 this coming dec, I would like to go for class. Does anyone who attended the class can share your opinion for the following lecturer :

1. Joe Fang (ksa)
2. Mr Yap (kb)
3. Spencer Cheah (ftms)
4. Haneef (Elitejaya-2nd term only)

Thanks in advance for all the opinion share smile.gif
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P2 class how come no mention Menon @ Sunway. Anyways a couple of my friends who studied under Yap Kok Wah @ KB say he is not recommended lecturer. Reasons are as follows:

1. Many class schedule alterations- he's from outstation.
2. Illegible handwriting- Impossible to decipher his notes on board
3. Does not cover any previous work which might be important to understanding current topics. Expects you to know.


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post Aug 13 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Doreamon10 @ Aug 13 2012, 06:58 PM)
Suggestion to all: do NOT make your decision on which lecturer to go for based on "advice" from New Member. The advice maybe not genuine as we know there have been lecturers who came in to promote themselves, not openly, but in disguise. Just my 2 cents worth of opinion.
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QUOTE(PPCHEW @ Aug 13 2012, 07:22 PM)
Sorry that I just realised cannot recommend whose lecturer to go as im new member?! lol...I'm not lecturer, I'm student from Kaplan Singapore, and Joe Fang taught there last semester too...
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Joined 6.28pm, first post 11mins later is supporting Joe Fang.

Do you really think we're morons ? For Pete's sake if you're gonna create a dupe account and self promote, at least use a little more intelligence in doing it. Were all future ACCA's here, not std 6 kids.

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