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vincentwmh
post May 19 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(tbheng @ May 17 2014, 10:10 AM)
Whoa... >100k  shocking.gif
Another simpler way to calculate your gains is just based on your FD interest, assuming:
- you put the total BT amount into FD
- all BT done are 0% and no charge incur
Hence, you just reap the FD interest every month. If need be, add in the reward points redemption value.

With the rough simple calculation I posted earlier. Assuming maintaining accumulated BT amount and FD interest of 3%p.a.
BT 40k ==> FD interest of RM100/mth.
BT 100k ==> FD interest of RM250/mth.

Caution: serious attention/timing needed in handling this procedure.
Disclaimer: calculation above are for reference only.
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sorry, can clarify>>> u mean cash advance frm CC to dump all in fd and then BT the amount ??
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post May 19 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 19 2014, 01:46 PM)
cash advance from CC is another animal lo, i believe what we do here is

1. swipe x amount
2. we have x amount in cash, put in FD
3. BT x amount to another bank and pay in installment with 0 interest.

Problem is are you discipline enough to save the X amount, most people would just continue to use for other stuff as it appear as extra cash on hand.
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bearbear,

thanks for clarification. i thought u guys has come out a better way.

Yes, that's the method i am using.

1)on yearly basis, i pre-arrange all my&wifey+parents ins premiums (personal&HP) on auto-debit(s) same month, all to a CC card.
2)then always have my direct access or rhb ready for BT.
3)dump the PRE-12-months ALLOCATED premium monies to FD; and
4)pay 0%-6mth BT.

so far benefited from this own designed cash-flow since 2009 (pre-planned&timed CC auto-debit since 2008 tho)

For BT user(s), its free gain with just a min effort in cash-flow management.





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post May 19 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ May 19 2014, 02:38 PM)
Your direct access or rhb ready for BT is always 0%-6mth BT? smile.gif
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yup, for the last 7yrs, i only missed 1yr where both bank not offering that time. my BT month is always on Mar yearly.

normally, both DA & RHB will have this 6mth-0%. if not at least one of them will have.




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post May 19 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ May 19 2014, 04:50 PM)
Thanks.. Very good planning of you to fall your BT on March; as I think normally bank BT-0% promo normally falls on the early quarter of the year.. rclxms.gif Too bad..most of my insurance normally falling at End of the yr..
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you can talk to insurance co. they can do the adjustment.

in that year of adjustment u may be paying more eg say16mth or maybe lesser say 9mth depending ur current cut-off to your new intended month for the following year. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 19 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(wan7075 @ May 19 2014, 05:27 PM)
wat is DA? icon_question.gif  is it also not other charges like the RHB?
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DA - Direct Access CC from CIMB bank now. last time it was issued by Southern Bank. It was one of the very rare free-for-life card issued back then.
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post May 19 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(amazinggrace @ May 19 2014, 05:34 PM)
actually how the bank can earn if they offer 0%?
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i think, they earn when u still have unpaid balance after BT period ended.
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post May 20 2014, 10:14 AM

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anyway, CIMB is replacing all direct access card upon one's expiry begining from this year.
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post May 20 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(victorywp @ May 20 2014, 10:04 AM)
and first to introduce 2% rebate for all petrol stations.  drool.gif
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the first or maybe only one that allow CC application WITHOUT even needing a pay-slip & financial history.
at first month at work even before first pay, can apply already!!!

then, bank just close door, take down signboard>>>southern bank in history

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post May 21 2014, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(tanuk @ May 21 2014, 10:17 AM)
Hi all , if i have an outstanding of 18k cc debts and the card is not active for months, can i still apply for BT?
Thanks 😥
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yes can, if the receiver BT's CC limit permits with good payment history. i don't see why not!!
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post May 27 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(hanaby @ May 26 2014, 09:37 PM)
Thanks for some of the information.
Anyway, anyone knows how do banks define bad payment record?
what if I repay slightly more than the minimum every month?
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sweat.gif at 40K cc outstanding!!! with 5% min payment = 2K per month to sustain and finance charges at 18%pa is around rm600 per month. shocking.gif

have u work-out the math!! the compounded repayment if you just pay 5% min??
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post May 27 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 27 2014, 02:31 PM)
This is why i suggest him to do EPP (Easy payment plan) if he can't do BT. EPP at least can stop further finance charge, fixed repayment amount and shorter the repayment tenure.
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agree, since i so free, just pull my mouse here:-

1) rm40K collectively, if TS can pay FIXED 2K/mth, its gonna take TS, 24mths with rm7913 (18%/pa) interest incurred.

2) if only manage at REDUCING min 5%/mth & fix 500/mth(40th mth onwards), its gonna take TS, 62mths with rm14,562 (18%pa) interest incurred.

i think EPP with four banks can't do. i suggest if CCRISS still good, just apply PL bahh

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post May 27 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 27 2014, 05:07 PM)
With EPP plan. convert to 24month EPP.

PB 4.9k/5k  22% upfront interest = Rm1078
HL 4.9k/5k   26% upfront interest = Rm1274
CIMB 9.8k/10k  27%  upfront interest = Rm2646
HSBC 20k/21k  27%  upfront interest = Rm5400

Since all your card is out of credit limit, the upfront interest you will need to settle by cash in order to convert to EPP. (upfront interest can be add into CC if there is enough limit)

If let say you afford to pay the upfront interest, thereafter installment will be
Rm4900 + Rm4900 + Rm9800 + Rm20,000 = Rm39,600 / 24 mth = Rm1650 per month.

So you just need to pay Rm1650 for 24month and your debt will be cleared.

If can't afford to come out too much upfront, you can just do it one by one. This will still save up a lot compare with just paying the min amount of 5%.
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actually didn't know about this EPP upfront interest. who in the sane mind can agree to it? just too steeeeep. correct me if i am wrong!!!

if i pay fix rm1650/mth with reducing 18%pa interest, i need 30mths to clear debt with total interest incurred at rm10,093.

EPP upfront cost rm10,398 (for 24mth). Why commit to this kind of "upfront interest under this kind of EPP???

its LPPL, pay interest to bank first before you start anything, then bank HOPE thumbup.gif you cannot fulfill your 24mth repayment, thereafter charge penalty or convert back to 18% etc etc (u name it, bank will give u a beautiful term to impose the additional cost) - deeper shit right!! rclxub.gif

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post May 27 2014, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 27 2014, 05:52 PM)
There are pros and cons for both way.

With EPP, you can fix the repayment amount for 24mth and if really have some hard time, the min payment is 5% of Rm1650.

Without EPP, your min amount will be 5% of total balance. If you have hard time and just keep on pay 5% min every month, the repayment tenure and interest will drag you further more.

So it's depend on personal financial planning and the  repayment attitude.
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6pm, time to knock off. if have time tomolo, reply you.
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post May 28 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 27 2014, 05:52 PM)
There are pros and cons for both way.

With EPP, you can fix the repayment amount for 24mth and if really have some hard time, the min payment is 5% of Rm1650.

Without EPP, your min amount will be 5% of total balance. If you have hard time and just keep on pay 5% min every month, the repayment tenure and interest will drag you further more.

So it's depend on personal financial planning and the  repayment attitude.
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True, one gotta correct his/her attitude first before saving on interest money. Anyway I think the q starter was probably trolling in the first place.

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