So we had some incident in the vaping (ecig) community recently and i stumbled into this post. Read through all 12 pages and judging from the photos, email address (among other stuff) dug out by fellow vapers the pictures and stats match. There is more story to this of course. Seem like this guy is at it again with a different name and physical address.

http://imgur.com/PnU89BX

PS: oops i dont actually know how to post a pic... ><


INCOMING COPIED AND PASTED WALL OF TEXT =D

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Postby Catsie » Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:49 pm
Hi,

First, it will be difficult to me to explain all in english, but I will try.

- I put a WTS in classifieds for a GGTB+Penelope
- A member, "Zackry" contact me by PM to know the price in $USD, and wanted my paypal adress to pay
- I reply to him and give him the price in $USD and my paypal adress
- Then, he asked me "how for only the GGTB"
- I reply that I don't want to split for the moment, it was the evening
- When I woke up the morning, I saw that I had an email from paypal, that I receive some money on my account. I go to VW, and see that I've PM from Zackry, telling me "I sent 360$ USD for the GGTB to be sent to Malaysia,if it enough though. but ..I know you haven't think about getting it split or something but I sent a payment incase you wanted to split.really want a GGTB for so long now. Thanks hope you hear me out in this." And he gave me his name and his adress in Malaysia.
I knew that forced sale exist, but not the forced purchase!
- First, I think that that man was crazy to send 360$ for a GGTB... I've bought this GGTB on the wall for 157€ with the shipping cost, and wanted to sell it for about the same price. But, after, I think that there were only 200 GGTB like this in the world, and maybe this guy wanted one and has a lot of money to spend, why not? So, I go to my paypal account and accept his payment.
- I shipped the GGTB to him the 25/04/2013 with a tracking number that I gave him by PM.
- The day after the sending , I receive an email from paypal, telling me that the payment was suspended, because the buyer has open a complain because he has not receive the item. Of course, the shipping from France to Malaysia can't be done in less than 24 hours...
And he wrote a lot of things wrong on his complain on paypal: Saying I'm a scammer using different email. That I sell something, but never ship it, and that the item is still for sale after he made the payment. That I said that the item was in India, that I was in USA, and I wanted a payment in France... And to proof, he posted a fake MSN conversation (that was of course not my email, I never use MSN, and never had this conversation with him, only PM on VW).

- Then, I post on paypal the tracking number, to proof that the item was shipped to him.
And this is at this time that I've understud that this will be hard to me to proof my honesty to paypal, and that Zackry is a scammer:
When I receive the paypal payment, I have not seen any informations on his adress on paypal.
When I accept the paypal payment, I have not seen any informations on his adress on paypal.
But, when he open the complaint, his adress was visible on paypal, and this was an adress in USA and an other name !! (did he use something like "Shipito" to do that ??)
when I accepted payment, I did not notice that the name given by PM was not the same as the paypal payment, because the sum corresponded to that announced in the PM, and I do not expect other payment, for me it could only be Zackry.
- So, he wrote immediatly that he made an error, the item was shipped, but the tracking number is a proof that I'm a scammer, because why I've ship the item in Malaysia, and not in USA, and why doing that if it is not for scamming.

I've only VW PM to proof that the adress he gave me was in Malaysia, I try to explain to paypal, but: the postal receipt with tracking number show that I've ship something in Malaysia to someone, and this is not the same name and not the same adress he use on the paypal account to pay me... How could they believe me?

This post has been edited by loodeytunes: Apr 29 2013, 11:03 AM

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by Catsie » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:33 pm

As soon as I saw the complaint on paypal, I sent him 3 PM on 26/04/2013 and ask for some explanations:
I wrote:
- "You open a problem on paypal...Why are you doing this man?" (Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:41 pm )

- "I do not understand what you're doing, and what you said. I never wrote what you said. I'm Not using different email. I always answered to your PM, and I gave you the tracking number ... I 'm not a scammer ... The GGTB ​​is not for sale again, and it's shipped to you ... " (Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:46 pm )

- "Hum, you don't answer to PM now... you're trying to scam me, but be carefull, you will loose.
I'm an honest guy, and paypal know that since a lot of years I use their services...Why are you doing this?" (Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:55 pm )

The PM has been received by Zackry, but he did not answer me ...
When I realized that I was the victim of a scam, I contacted Del Boy to inform, to prevent other members face the same problem!
This guy as only one message on VW, this is my fault for trusting this guy... I know...

And as you Eyebrook, I wish he will come here explain what he did, I'm very curious to read his explanations!

This post has been edited by loodeytunes: Apr 29 2013, 11:03 AM

Yes apparantly using a diff name and address now. Email is still the same =)