powerloss at cvt 6%? are you sure? how do u even determine that? as u said, the cvt is variable and it'll never get an accurate reading

how about inspira's cvt?

6% power loss on a cvt is highly doubtful. if that is the case, inspira will smoke civic anyday, which is not the case.

saga flx will smoke  honda city ivtec, which is not the case.

jatco is the world's leading cvt manufacturer, they make for nissan, suzuki, mitsubishi.   even reviews say that the punch powertrain is not as smooth as the jatco's.

if what mr mat79 says is true, iafm+ only suffers 6% powerloss at the cvt, tell me why it is not even on par with city's ivtec, which is on a auto gearbox?

agreed on the torque converter part.

campro iafm+ 108hp 5750 rpm, 150nm 4krpm, for cvt, powerloss on transmission 6%, manual, powerloss on transmission 5%.

cvt = 94% of 108 and 150, 101.52hp, 141nm

honda city 20% transmission loss(quite consistant even on the civics)

80% of 118hp and 145nm = 94hp and 116nm torque

So saga flx is faster than city ivtec?

Saga 1080kg

City 1160kg

Saga flx 0-100 = 12.5 seconds

City 0-100 = 11.5 seconds.

By right the saga with less powerloss, lighter body will devour the city, but the figures doesnt tally, right?

the brochure says otherwise.

I'm sorry but to interrupt.

Given the price per car, do you think the quality of Proton is on PAR with other car makes?

Minus the tax/gomen. Ringgit to Ringgit from Port Klang.

If their quality is on par, then we talk. Otherwise, its not even in consideration

Should come with projector headlight too. It's less glaring to road users.

review from funtasticko is from autoanda n i believe funtasticko is not bias if u read all the post, even had reviews of other makes, n its positif too, n also had negative reviews too even for prtn. Its only they like to discuss on prtn, doesnt make it bias.

If not, all forum n blogs are bias if they are talking on specific car.

Thats my take, others,maybe have diff opinion. Not everybody thinks the same. He...he...

funtasticko is still single. Autoanda reviewer is just do collaboration with him. Not having any 'relationship' at all unless for auto related info. I think fd also has good relation with some in auto industries mags n news coz they are all media after all. Sometimes he also 'kutuk2' prtn too for sake of improvements.

wat proton model got this ar? i know waja have it...

1.4 twin charged polo gti will leave preve 1 tiang and laugh first lols. Polo 1.2 should be enough to be on par on the century sprint. I think only VW has one of the 'cheap' cars around that can compete with preves performance.

Driving a continental car, give you premium feel ~ priceless. (lol like citibank advertisement)

It's like an upgrade already. you can't compare orange vs apple, right?

it's like a progress in life, you started low, work your way up to the top right?

so you started with local car, slowly move to another level, maybe japs or korean car be it C or D segments after years, and you will then aim for a better car than this, like merz, bmw, audi and etc right??????

Don't tell me you want to drive proton for your whole lifetime. or work as an executive staff in a company and stay there for 30-40 years.

I wouldn't want to drive proton after proton after proton... Set an achievable standard for yourself. as to what are your goals in life.

surely you will work your way up right? this is the game of life, by Mr. Richard   

so let's work hard and we shall strive for a better tomorrow 

LOL....proton after sales service is not as great as H and T
but how much do u pay when u pay a visit H and T SC?
a premium price if u can say..compared to proton SC
and there are worst after sales service than proton..such as naza(kia), tan chong(nissan)..etc
u can find it by searching around

Got lah. You go COE got free kuih wan.

I go Toyota pun tarak OK.

Some Proton SC also got nasi lemak one...