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TStankerbell12345
post Mar 15 2012, 04:53 PM, updated 13y ago

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Vietnamese and Cantonese were highly disputed to be related in ancient times because Viet means Yue and Canto also means Yue as well. In Chinese, Yue Nan means Vietnam


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"Han Chinese wasn't originated from Guangdong/Guangxi area of China, they originated from Yellow river, which means central China.Just as Yue wasn't Han Chinese, they were forced to join Han Chinese, and slowly assimilated into Han population. Mandarin was invented by Han Chinese under Manchu order, that's why they sound different from Cantonese."

Cantonese orginated from massive immigration of han populations all across china, and absorbed the yue while going into guangdong, yet yue concentration is still very low. No cantonese i've spoken too consider themselves Viet.

Cantonese and mandarin and other chinese dialects are a continium of Old Chinese, its like latin spread out across southern europe with french,spanish,italian,romanian branching off, although speakers can't understand each other's language, their languages are very close with latin. Cantonese does not have viet words, any similarites is because cantonese was the closest chinese dialect and influenced vietnamese. Mandarin actually evolved in around 1000-1500AD Search up Zhongyuan Yinyun

"Btw, there isn't enough evidence to support Cantonese people are Han Chinese. Just from their physical appearance they are actually more closely related to Vietnamese than Han Chinese."

"European Journal of Human Genetics advance online publication 23 January 2008; doi: 10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201998

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post Mar 15 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(strace @ Mar 15 2012, 04:57 PM)
how about hmong?
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han chinese + hmong (wu or miao) ===> japanese
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post Mar 15 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Mar 15 2012, 05:08 PM)
bollock...    japanese ia yayoi n jomon ppl....   there were also ainu ppl
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many japanese culture came from qin dynasty. Many of their ancestors were soldiers to qin dynasty who refused modernisation and defected to japan.



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post Mar 15 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Raitama @ Mar 15 2012, 05:14 PM)
NO WONDER LA THESE CANTONAIS PPL SO DAMN >>> FFFFF LA.

any cainis here get this advice from ur parents/grandparents b4?

"If u wan find wife/husband, make sure not cantonese. Hokkien or Hakka is the best."
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u know why last time hokkien couldnt marry certain lineage of cantonese ? Cause some line of cantonese were orinigally hokkien assimilated to canto to prevent persecution during manchu rule. My mom told me

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post Mar 15 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 15 2012, 05:23 PM)
watch d movie "Emperor and The Assassin". Qin dynasty culture in detail.
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No doubt veitnam was influenced by qin but still cant deny the same origin
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post Mar 15 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Mar 15 2012, 05:29 PM)
how come Mongolian no invade ur thread yet ?
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He got bashed. I said that that eventhough mongolian were so good in military but they got nothing when it comes to culture and eventually many of the mongolian invader assimilated into chinese han.
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post Mar 15 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Mar 15 2012, 05:08 PM)
bollock...    japanese ia yayoi n jomon ppl....   there were also ainu ppl
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U know why japanese said sick man of asia to china last time ? It caused although they left china long time ago, they still paid tribute to their ancient emperor in china. So seeing china fell , they also felt great pain in their heart. In olden day china dynasty, if u failed in a mission, the penalty was head chopped off. Of course its a generalisation but there are also other minority enthic groups but majority is still han + hmong.

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