Wheres the OP? roycechuah?

thats why i believe in universal healthcare. i dont believe everyone can be rich, but i believe at least all of us can have good quality of life if we manage resources well.
inb4 "smells like socialism" lol

u are asking the impossible of geneva. BNM already said their are ponzi scam. definitely not much money or gold lying around their office.

condolences and takziah to the victims

face up to facts fast and since its well planned scheme, most likely can't recover much
pool your resources together, as how u did agst bnm on fb. get lawyers and march to those fellas house
ALSO do march on a sunday, so less traffic jam. 60k giraffes and their kawan2 will sure cause trafik jam

those poor souls, all they did was 'preserving values and leaving a legacy' to the above fellas
genneva 1 & 2, they got millions. with genneva 3, they get billions. can't wait for genneva 4, izit call genneva world
http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/10/09/genneva-gold/

discovered that these companies are operating schemes that are believed to be not sustainable to provide the promised high monthly returns, nor would they be able to provide the buy back guarantee of gold.

“The returns promised are not funded through gold trading, but from the monies invested into such schemes,”

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6728&sec=nation

too bad I can no longer debate with those pro genneva forumers. when they set up genneva 4, pls come back here & debate. adios and enjoy your ill-gotten wealth especially to punjabi lawyer (anon me) & his sidekick ariel

and btw, i really like these hoo hah created by this genneva supporters. they bring awareness to society to be more careful and at least news is worth watching again other than non stop 1malaysia worshipping chant in tv. hehe

What is the difference Hibah and RIBA?

Hibah : when genneva in its kindness makes a lot of money using blue ocean strategy gives you a gift.

Riba (usury): when you LEND money to Genneva and they pay you interest of 2% per month.

Riba is a serious sin in Islam. And they call it Syariah compliant.

I like the way you said it...

Its all how they package the product. They are just using gold as there gimmick.

BTW track record is not 100% fool proof. What if, if gold crash to under US100 per oz. All makan angin already.

I thought there was something fishy about the podcast so I listened again.

This was reported in the news:

Fast forward to 15:40 in the podcast clip, you'll hear Al Jazzura Khan quoting Khairun but pausing right after 'bona fide' to choose a better word before settling on 'purchasers'. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not that Khairun said lol.

They've always insisted that they are actually gold traders and Genneva is not an investment company. Pat Lu herself has been guilty of this little slip-up. One of her posts in this forum specifically used the term "investing in Genneva" but she will go on to vehemently deny that they are investing in anything.

Don't you just love the way they twist words?

They use islamic terms and invite top people like mahathir to convince people and cover up their suspicious schemes.

those poor victims who dump in their life savings and depends on genneva, may God bless you

those rich ex-bnm officer & etc who bough genneva, well then, use your spare change in pocket and get more info from those senior CONsultants. demand to know how long are the directors gonna hide behind their 14 days own silence rules.
also how come the senior general manager did not do bfm interview and how come must be the CONsultants again to pay for all those 'love and support genneva banners'

if u dunno how to get more info to organise march and u did not laugh at my earlier RM80 ssm suggestion. (by not filing their accounts, means SHIT is building up). anyway, its now SHTF, better go over to singa land and extract info asap. in meantime, get your family members to curi pintu dan tingkap di jln kuchai lama, FASTER salvage whatever u can

https://www.psi.gov.sg/NASApp/tmf/TMFServle...nkCoStName=EAST

https://www.psi.gov.sg/NASApp/tmf/TMFServle...egisteredEntity

http://www.bizfile.gov.sg/mybizfile/prod/i..._cowithcert.pdf

Sigh, just like any MLM companies that lecture their members that they are not involved in MLM/pyramid, and invent another fancy name to label their business model.

People can be made to buy a detergent for over RM100 and they still think that they got a good deal. The potential of GOLD is simply huge and unimaginable.

Don't wanna go too far off topic, so period.

Personally althou I do not have to concern about if anything is syariah or not, but I condemn with the strongest sense their intention of labeling anything as syariah.

They are just trying to reach the pocket of the largest majority in this country and for the rest of the population they would say: hey look, its syariah, surelah gov support it.

For me, I will be extra careful if any investment says that they are halal.

is it too late for me to join Geneva now?

i hope the chick in the pic is not Ariel, she looks hot...

or was it the bad pixel image?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

nuff said...

Interesting read, detailed comments on theborneopost.

This GM mastermind is really good at manipulating the crowd and media. Some media fully participating their side of story rather than to report on the ponzi-scheme characteristic of GM. Very very seldom to see a company has such a power, and yet GM management don't need to show face at all. See who is being interviewed by BFM? The investors only. There is a very STRONG hand behind GM, don;t believe?

At this stage, who has evidence to prove that GM have enough physical gold at the BNM raid? None. But the pro-GM camp still imply that BNM might taken all the physical gold.

My question for those who pro-GM, do you accept IF GM sell investor's gold multiple times? The fact is since many investors deposit their gold in order to earn the interest, GM has huge amount of physical gold at hand to play with. Well, we all know what happen when human greedy. They sell the gold again and again, all the investor receive low interest and a worthless contract, they can run the show pretty long time if without BNM intervention.

the only way for us to find out is to join genneva 4. then we cash out after 2 years to enjoy the hot HEEEBAAH
otherwise, we can find other genneva HEEEBAAH hot chicks here or here. lookie! there are so many to choose
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3...63384286&type=1
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2...32608085&type=1

I wonder can they draw those cute bear pictures while writing 'hidup geneva across the front of my seluar'
where's to sign application from? I wan my eye pad too, its so useful after loads of tears and much crying
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=382...&type=1&theater


they need my moolah to preserve values and leaving a legacy for
1. MARCUS YEE YUEN SENG
2. CHIN WAI LEONG
3. NG POH WENG
4. NG WAN YEE
5. AHMAD KHAIRUDDIN BIN ILIAS
6. PHILIP LIM JIT MENG
7. TAN LIANG KEAT
8. MOHD AZMI BIN ABD AZIZ
9. ZAILAND BIN BAHARUDIN
10. SITI NOREHAN BINTI MOHD NOOR
LONG LIVE THE HEEEBAAH HOT CHICKS & MORE PICS PLEASE, WITH BETTER PIXEL TOO, TERIMA KASIH GENNEVA

To be fair to the investors, most of them were referred by their relatives and families. Many of us would let our guard down.

What's more, the co. is blessed by our former PM and current PM's wife. How could this be wrong? I would have been one of the 60k investors if someone close have me approached.

Yeah. I would have been conned too if I know about this earlier and
Great lesson not only for the one who kena but for everyone else also